As someone who developed two autoimmune conditions within weeks of my first and only flu, I have given the long covid claimants the benefit of the doubt. I will continue to do so.
One flaw of this study is the use of antibodies as a marker (proof) of infection. We know they drop quickly over time. Perhaps a T-cell test would have been …
As someone who developed two autoimmune conditions within weeks of my first and only flu, I have given the long covid claimants the benefit of the doubt. I will continue to do so.
One flaw of this study is the use of antibodies as a marker (proof) of infection. We know they drop quickly over time. Perhaps a T-cell test would have been more definitive?
No doubt there are people walking around convinced that they were infected (with or without a useless PCR or antigen test result). The specter of asymptomatic disease just adds to the mythos.
And I'm sure there are many people who were actually infected who are having a long recovery as they might from any other serious infection.
But I allow for the possibility that the infection has triggered autoimmune conditions in some that may or may not be unique to this virus.
I also allow for the probability that the viral spike protein persists in the tissue for months in some people. Since we know the spike protein is bio-active and can damage endothelial cells, can we be sure there isn't something to this?
Chapters 3-5 will give you some ideas. I've got a folder full of smoking-gun papers indicating the following is fairly well-established in the literature that liver-damage due to vaccines can cause the spillage of unbound retinoids (aka vitamin a) - see Anthony Mawson's paper on Gulf War Illness. Undue stress of all sorts, physical and mental can do the same. You can have a 10X serum retinoid-dump after trauma that immediately precedes an auto-immune condition. This bug we're dealing with seems to have the same potential to damage the liver as vaccination can, at least it did in my case. Good luck with recovery!
Dr McCullough has mentioned on his podcast studies showing that 15 months later the body is still removing fragments of the virus from your body so it's possible that long COVID is real for some people.
Thank you! I never got 'the jab' and have never had a 'flu shot.' In fact before Covid (or whatever is really is), I hadn't been so sick for nearly 20 years. I got Omicron in December of 2021, and it felt like the last time I had the flu. 3 days of fever & chills but no cough or anything. I had been taking 'the protocol' since 2020. Got Ivermectin & HCQ (among other things) for my sickness and continued my protocol on top of it. I started feeling better after a couple of weeks and did some walking on the treadmill. That is when "It" started with hives all over my back, breathlessness and 'malaise' like I have NEVER experienced in my whole life. I didn't really have brain fog (still don't) but when I concentrate on certain things, I begin to feel overcome with sleep. I am having some sort of inflammatory reaction, this I know. I have a natural med type doctor who has confirmed it and described it as a sort of 'mast cell activation' type thing. I have been taking antihistamines and am on a low histamine diet which has helped. But I STILL have reactions to certain food (I'm not willing to give up my coffee) and have to keep my workouts short, and at a very low impact. Next month I'm having more bloodwork done so we'll see if my inflammation is coming down. It's no fun and NOT in my head, I can assure you.
I'm sorry. Even ordinary viruses can do all kinds of nasty things to us, and SCV2 is no ordinary virus. I've read that mast cell activation has also afflicted some of the vaxxed. My daughter had long term hives a couple years ago after a surgery. She took H1 (Loratidine/Claritin) and H2 (Famotidine/Pepcid) blockers. The H1 (Claritin) had almost no effect. The H2 (Famotidine) had a dramatic effect. She took both for nearly six weeks before they finally went away. We never found a cause, but she may have been immunosuppressed after surgery. I wish you well.
I just got my test results back from my doctor. My inflammation has decreased, and other things they looked at are looking better as well! She expects me to recover as long as I keep doing what I have been doing and continue to take all my supplements. I am taking a Loratidine 1x a day and a histamine blocker before meals (in addition to other supplements such as quercetin (for mast cell stabilization) and turmeric. I actually feel fortunate that I found what I needed to help me recover and that I have a doctor that supports me. It's very interesting that your daughter had similar allergic type reaction after surgery! It is information like that that is another piece of the puzzle to the true reason some of us who got The Virus, ended up with extended recoveries. Thank you for sharing!
I'm glad to hear you're feeling better. FYI, in the interest of sharing some more, I developed frozen shoulder last December. It's very painful and debilitating. I would not recommend it. The orthopedist recommended a prescription NSAID that came with a long list of side effects/risks. I decided against taking it. I had been taking the max daily dose of Advil and MegaFood Turmeric Curcumin Extra Strength by the time I saw the doctor. They helped but not much. I did a little research on curcumin and, ultimately, found a product called Omax Biocurc (now called Omax Hydrocurc).
I would have been more comfortable with a brand name that I recognized; but I was desperate to get relief from pain, so I decided to try it.
Frozen shoulder has a very long course. It can go on for years. I started to feel less painful and had significant improvement in range of motion very quickly...within weeks. The orthopedist and the PT were very excited. They'd never had anyone improve so quickly. Most people cannot tolerate PT until after the inflammatory phase has ended (which can take months or longer or forever).
Full disclosure, I take a lot more than the recommended dose; but I've been doing it for about five months with no ill effect. The initial improvement was dramatic and fast. I still have some minor discomfort and ROM limitations (I can't scratch my mid-to-upper back with my right arm), but they are slowly resolving. When I no longer have pain (which I consider a marker for inflammation), I'll dial back the dose...but I intend to take it for the rest of my life.
At my last appointment with the orthopedist in June, I told her what I was doing...since she and the PT were so effusive about my recovery rate. Her first response was, "I can't prescribe that.". I told her that I knew she couldn't, but I wanted her to know what I was doing since my recovery was unprecedented.
High doses of curcumin can increase the risk of kidney stones in susceptible individuals, but the doctor was concerned about potential contaminants. She isn't wrong. It had occurred to me; but, as I said, I was desperate.
As she was speaking, I thought, "you've probably taken three injections of an experimental gene therapy that doesn't stop infection or transmission and has a very high adverse event profile." She's very nice, and she means well...but she's a product of her training. Diagnose a test result and throw a drug at it. The human body was designed to heal, and Ayurvedic medicine has been around for thousands of years.
Anyway, my $0.02. I was nervous to try the Omax Biocurc/Hydrocurc, but I was in terrible pain with no hope of real relief any time soon. I thought it worth a try, since the alternatives (prescription NSAIDS, oral steroid, and steroid injections) also had high side effect/risk profiles. Some of the people in the PT were taking opioids for similar problems. I wanted no part of that.
As someone who developed two autoimmune conditions within weeks of my first and only flu, I have given the long covid claimants the benefit of the doubt. I will continue to do so.
One flaw of this study is the use of antibodies as a marker (proof) of infection. We know they drop quickly over time. Perhaps a T-cell test would have been more definitive?
No doubt there are people walking around convinced that they were infected (with or without a useless PCR or antigen test result). The specter of asymptomatic disease just adds to the mythos.
And I'm sure there are many people who were actually infected who are having a long recovery as they might from any other serious infection.
But I allow for the possibility that the infection has triggered autoimmune conditions in some that may or may not be unique to this virus.
I also allow for the probability that the viral spike protein persists in the tissue for months in some people. Since we know the spike protein is bio-active and can damage endothelial cells, can we be sure there isn't something to this?
Very good logic there. Here's one that might relate to the triggering of your auto-immune conditions. https://ggenereux.blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/PoisoningForProfits.pdf
Chapters 3-5 will give you some ideas. I've got a folder full of smoking-gun papers indicating the following is fairly well-established in the literature that liver-damage due to vaccines can cause the spillage of unbound retinoids (aka vitamin a) - see Anthony Mawson's paper on Gulf War Illness. Undue stress of all sorts, physical and mental can do the same. You can have a 10X serum retinoid-dump after trauma that immediately precedes an auto-immune condition. This bug we're dealing with seems to have the same potential to damage the liver as vaccination can, at least it did in my case. Good luck with recovery!
Dr McCullough has mentioned on his podcast studies showing that 15 months later the body is still removing fragments of the virus from your body so it's possible that long COVID is real for some people.
Thank you! I never got 'the jab' and have never had a 'flu shot.' In fact before Covid (or whatever is really is), I hadn't been so sick for nearly 20 years. I got Omicron in December of 2021, and it felt like the last time I had the flu. 3 days of fever & chills but no cough or anything. I had been taking 'the protocol' since 2020. Got Ivermectin & HCQ (among other things) for my sickness and continued my protocol on top of it. I started feeling better after a couple of weeks and did some walking on the treadmill. That is when "It" started with hives all over my back, breathlessness and 'malaise' like I have NEVER experienced in my whole life. I didn't really have brain fog (still don't) but when I concentrate on certain things, I begin to feel overcome with sleep. I am having some sort of inflammatory reaction, this I know. I have a natural med type doctor who has confirmed it and described it as a sort of 'mast cell activation' type thing. I have been taking antihistamines and am on a low histamine diet which has helped. But I STILL have reactions to certain food (I'm not willing to give up my coffee) and have to keep my workouts short, and at a very low impact. Next month I'm having more bloodwork done so we'll see if my inflammation is coming down. It's no fun and NOT in my head, I can assure you.
I'm sorry. Even ordinary viruses can do all kinds of nasty things to us, and SCV2 is no ordinary virus. I've read that mast cell activation has also afflicted some of the vaxxed. My daughter had long term hives a couple years ago after a surgery. She took H1 (Loratidine/Claritin) and H2 (Famotidine/Pepcid) blockers. The H1 (Claritin) had almost no effect. The H2 (Famotidine) had a dramatic effect. She took both for nearly six weeks before they finally went away. We never found a cause, but she may have been immunosuppressed after surgery. I wish you well.
I just got my test results back from my doctor. My inflammation has decreased, and other things they looked at are looking better as well! She expects me to recover as long as I keep doing what I have been doing and continue to take all my supplements. I am taking a Loratidine 1x a day and a histamine blocker before meals (in addition to other supplements such as quercetin (for mast cell stabilization) and turmeric. I actually feel fortunate that I found what I needed to help me recover and that I have a doctor that supports me. It's very interesting that your daughter had similar allergic type reaction after surgery! It is information like that that is another piece of the puzzle to the true reason some of us who got The Virus, ended up with extended recoveries. Thank you for sharing!
I'm glad to hear you're feeling better. FYI, in the interest of sharing some more, I developed frozen shoulder last December. It's very painful and debilitating. I would not recommend it. The orthopedist recommended a prescription NSAID that came with a long list of side effects/risks. I decided against taking it. I had been taking the max daily dose of Advil and MegaFood Turmeric Curcumin Extra Strength by the time I saw the doctor. They helped but not much. I did a little research on curcumin and, ultimately, found a product called Omax Biocurc (now called Omax Hydrocurc).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7144558/
I would have been more comfortable with a brand name that I recognized; but I was desperate to get relief from pain, so I decided to try it.
Frozen shoulder has a very long course. It can go on for years. I started to feel less painful and had significant improvement in range of motion very quickly...within weeks. The orthopedist and the PT were very excited. They'd never had anyone improve so quickly. Most people cannot tolerate PT until after the inflammatory phase has ended (which can take months or longer or forever).
Full disclosure, I take a lot more than the recommended dose; but I've been doing it for about five months with no ill effect. The initial improvement was dramatic and fast. I still have some minor discomfort and ROM limitations (I can't scratch my mid-to-upper back with my right arm), but they are slowly resolving. When I no longer have pain (which I consider a marker for inflammation), I'll dial back the dose...but I intend to take it for the rest of my life.
At my last appointment with the orthopedist in June, I told her what I was doing...since she and the PT were so effusive about my recovery rate. Her first response was, "I can't prescribe that.". I told her that I knew she couldn't, but I wanted her to know what I was doing since my recovery was unprecedented.
High doses of curcumin can increase the risk of kidney stones in susceptible individuals, but the doctor was concerned about potential contaminants. She isn't wrong. It had occurred to me; but, as I said, I was desperate.
As she was speaking, I thought, "you've probably taken three injections of an experimental gene therapy that doesn't stop infection or transmission and has a very high adverse event profile." She's very nice, and she means well...but she's a product of her training. Diagnose a test result and throw a drug at it. The human body was designed to heal, and Ayurvedic medicine has been around for thousands of years.
Anyway, my $0.02. I was nervous to try the Omax Biocurc/Hydrocurc, but I was in terrible pain with no hope of real relief any time soon. I thought it worth a try, since the alternatives (prescription NSAIDS, oral steroid, and steroid injections) also had high side effect/risk profiles. Some of the people in the PT were taking opioids for similar problems. I wanted no part of that.
I'm glad you're feeling better.