I have no advice for you. When they are convinced, using data or argument against them is tough. However, on the issue of a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" I can categorically, unapologetically, phantasmagorically, state, in scientific terms, that narrative is bullshit. Here is some surveillance data for the UK -- https://assets.publishin…
I have no advice for you. When they are convinced, using data or argument against them is tough. However, on the issue of a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" I can categorically, unapologetically, phantasmagorically, state, in scientific terms, that narrative is bullshit. Here is some surveillance data for the UK -- https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf. It shows that: of the total deaths recorded in the UK for the Delta variant up through the September 17, 2021 Technical Briefing, 28.4% were unvaccinated, 6.5% were partially vaccinated, and 63.5% were fully vaccinated, with 1.6% having unknown vaccination status. This is not unique data. As such, the data being reported in the U.S. is doctored, cherry-picked, or something else, in order to support the narrative. I apologize if you already--as I suspect--know this, but figured I would share, just in case.
I hate to throw a wrench into your theory, but I will do so. One thing we have learned about the covidians, doctors included, is that facts and true information will not, ever, make them understand; they are impervious to reason and truth. For us who understand what is happening, it is unfathomable that covidians can't see and understand what we see and understand, but once we see how their cult behavior has thoroughly conditioned them to reject, perhaps violently, even the notion that their accepted narrative could be wrong, it becomes crystal clear that there is nothing we can do to save them. Psychologically, they will be forced to save themselves, if/when they are subjected a shocking event or realization that forces them to confront reality. Even such a shocking event or understanding may not be enough; they will easily slip back into the cult unless they are forced out of it. Understanding your belief that informing covidians about facts that go against their imbibed belief should be all that it takes to wake them up from their trance, psychologists familiar with cult-like behavior tell us otherwise.
I appreciate the wrench you threw, but I was holding one just like it already. I said, I thought, that using data to convince someone else was dicey at best. I presented the data FOR HIM, not for them. I agree, wholeheartedly, that "saving" them is likely a pipedream.
I have no advice for you. When they are convinced, using data or argument against them is tough. However, on the issue of a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" I can categorically, unapologetically, phantasmagorically, state, in scientific terms, that narrative is bullshit. Here is some surveillance data for the UK -- https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf. It shows that: of the total deaths recorded in the UK for the Delta variant up through the September 17, 2021 Technical Briefing, 28.4% were unvaccinated, 6.5% were partially vaccinated, and 63.5% were fully vaccinated, with 1.6% having unknown vaccination status. This is not unique data. As such, the data being reported in the U.S. is doctored, cherry-picked, or something else, in order to support the narrative. I apologize if you already--as I suspect--know this, but figured I would share, just in case.
I hate to throw a wrench into your theory, but I will do so. One thing we have learned about the covidians, doctors included, is that facts and true information will not, ever, make them understand; they are impervious to reason and truth. For us who understand what is happening, it is unfathomable that covidians can't see and understand what we see and understand, but once we see how their cult behavior has thoroughly conditioned them to reject, perhaps violently, even the notion that their accepted narrative could be wrong, it becomes crystal clear that there is nothing we can do to save them. Psychologically, they will be forced to save themselves, if/when they are subjected a shocking event or realization that forces them to confront reality. Even such a shocking event or understanding may not be enough; they will easily slip back into the cult unless they are forced out of it. Understanding your belief that informing covidians about facts that go against their imbibed belief should be all that it takes to wake them up from their trance, psychologists familiar with cult-like behavior tell us otherwise.
I appreciate the wrench you threw, but I was holding one just like it already. I said, I thought, that using data to convince someone else was dicey at best. I presented the data FOR HIM, not for them. I agree, wholeheartedly, that "saving" them is likely a pipedream.