Go to the basement or middle of the building. Stay away from the outer walls and roof. Try to maintain a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who are not part of your household. If possible, wear a mask if you’re sheltering with people who are not a part of your household.
If warned of an imminent attack, immediately get inside the nearest building and move away from windows. This will help provide protection from the blast, heat, and radiation of the detonation.
When you have reached a safe place, try to maintain a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who are not part of your household. If possible, wear a mask if you’re sheltering with people who are not a part of your household.
AH,there you go - "when you have reached a safe place".
Thankfully I live on the edge of "Silicon Valley", which has to be a first strike target. There be no safe place if the nuclear excrement impacts the mechanical circulation device.
Oddly enough....they are correct for a change about the masks (only n95..not surgical). The whole dangerous part of nuclear fallout is inhaling dust particles that are energized and cause cancer. That's why you see fallout suits looking just like chemical or biological suits. They of course have rung that bell so many times nobody believes them...once again...cry wolf enough times and when you really mean it...nobody listens.
Ah, good point. I was thinking of the cloth / surgical masks that they explicitly said would not work for forest fires or fallout. Of course, the guidance on that site didn't suggest using the masks to protect against fallout, nor specify the type of mask. They only reference masks in relation to COVID.
Yes, they failed once again to be accurate when dispensing advice. They should be telling people what proper masks to wear instead of making it seem covid related as per the usual B.S. they spew. Maybe they are trying to prevent a run on N95's....you know because the important people need to get them first...not us pleebs.
Stay inside for 24 hours unless local authorities provide other instructions. Continue to practice social distancing by wearing a mask and by keeping a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who not part of your household.
The Defcon 1 levels of stupidity I've witnessed the last two years is beyond description, no adequate adjectives exist to characterize it. Do large swaths of humanity have serious brain damage at this point?
In Atlanta we also did a “walk home”. Someone devised a map with routes that allowed teachers to lead groups of students like numerous Pied Pipers of Hamelin to their homes. This was in case of a nuclear attack. Walking through a nuclear landscape was not an appealing concept for parents. We only had to do it once.
Our assistant principal in high school had a poster on the wall that read something like, "in the event of a nuclear attack, remove all pens and pencils from your pockets, take off eyeglasses and any jewelry you may be wearing, get on the floor, put your head between your knees and kiss your @ss goodbye.."
Well.... all food comes from plants, one way or the other. Interestingly (but not surprisingly) plants thrive at CO2 concentrations higher than 300-400 ppm that we have now. High-productivity greenhouses often have CO2 injection systems, IIRC they target a concentration of 1000-1500 ppm.
'Science knows' from studies of air bubbles frozen in ice sheets and the like, that the concentration of CO2 in the not too distant past (IIRC maybe up to 100,000 years ago, i.e. since the beginning of the last ice age) that CO2 concentrations have ranged from somewhat less than they are now, maybe 200 ppm, up to 1500 ppm.
Curiously though, over that same period the temperatures on Earth have also ranged from cooler than now, to significantly warmer. There were times when the poles had lush tropical vegetation, and times when ice covered much of the surface and even at the equator high temperatures were around 10C or 50F. Surprise!! There was NO CORRELATION between CO2 concentration and temperature over that period. Seems to have had more to do with solar cycles... who'd a thunk it?
Bottom line, the atmosphere has enough CO2 in it to absorb basically all of the infrared radiation from the Earth's surface, even at 200 ppm. It might be 'logical' to think that if you double the CO2 concentration, you double the absorption. And indeed that is true, at very low concentrations where only a small amount of IR is absorbed. But if you get to let's say 200 ppm and 90% of the IR is absorbed, and then you go to 400, that results in 90% of the remaining 10% being absorbed, for a total of 99%. (You can't absorb 180%.) It's a logarithmic curve, not linear: 600 ppm, 99.9%, 800 ppm, 99.99%. You get the picture; law of diminishing returns.
But don't expect anybody who graduated from oh, let's say the Columbia School of Journalism to be able to understand any of this. They're just, you know, not that into 'science.' Only what some idiot tells them, that fits their mindset.
I've got a "carbon dioxide mitigation system" I devised based on Terrestrially Referenced Emission Encapsulation devices. My ensemble of TREEs extracts the harmful emissions form human activity, CO2, and fully eliminates it, converting it to the harmless element oxygen and deals with that evil carbon component.
USPTO denied my patent application. Political hacks!
I think some folks missed the sarcasm. Really need a flag or something.
My favorite term in the MMGW dialogue is "carbon mitigation".
Think about it. Carbon is the fundamental element of life as we know it. Carbon mitigation == elimination of life as we know it. Irony? Ignorance? Or Honesty?
I try to tell folks-when the Minoan civilization thrived ( volcano anyone?) the earth had temps that would cause most of us now to stroke out. Civilization thrives in warm , CO2 rich climates. The Roman Warn Period ( and with its ease, their fall...crop failures suck)is another such example.
Hey now... what is " life " anyhow?? Your soon-to-be-silicon -embedded Masters find your pre-instigated speciest attitude abhorrent!
There is a book called 'Unstoppable Global Warming (Every 1500 Years) by Singer and Avery. It describes exactly the phenomenon you describe, and connects it to a 1500 year cycle of the Sun.
I remember an episode of a BBC show called 'Castles of Horror' which was shown on CBC and likely PBS in the USA -- mostly they went around Europe and visited old castles and told some of their history, and how they dumped burning oil and molten sulphur on enemies during combat. Fun stuff like that. Well, this one episode was about a castle in Wales (not Carnarvon Castle, but a lesser-known one) where the narrator observed the apparent contradiction of a castle built with a moat on only three sides.
Then he noted, in his dry British accent, "Well, you see, when this castle was built, the world was much warmer and wetter than it is now. The sea level was higher then than it is today, and the ocean, now fully half a mile away, in those days came all the way up to the Western rampart of the castle and filled the moat!"
IIRC the castle was built ca. 800 AD. In those days, wine grapes could be grown as far north as Hadrian's Wall, the border between Scotland and England. Then the earth started cooling. And now it is warming again... the cycles of Nature repeat. Just as the cold of winter leads to the warmth of spring and summer, Nature's other cycles also repeat. There is a ~110,000 year 'ice age' cycle with a ~100,000 year long ice age followed by a ~10,000 year warm interglacial period. We are now coming to the end of such an interglacial period.
Interesting, never saw that one. Probably been banned or at least edited to "correct that misinformation" of historical fact.
Observation driven science provides us with ample data the planet we call earth has never had a stable climate. Astrophysics and Geophysics explains why.
So here's your next challenge: find actual evidence that the earth as we observe it is in a warming trend again. It is widely asserted, but actual data is scarce.
Well, back when George Washington was fighting the British, the Earth was experiencing the 'Little Ice Age', perhaps correlated to the Maunder Minimum, a long period of little or no sunspot activity. This period was roughly 1300-1850. Since then, the northernmost line in Europe where winegrapes can be grown has consistently marched northward. Still not to Hadrian's Wall though, IIRC the 'line' (which is not really a line) runs through Northern France and Germany, somewhere around or a bit north of Alsace. Unfortunately I don't have ready citations to quote to you, I am working from memory.
Now the MMGW people have lots of 'data' that the Earth is warming but most of it is confounded by measurement biases, such as weather stations that used to be out in the country are now surrounded by development, which increases local temperature. (Forests are cooler than parking lots...) A significant amount of that bias is intentional -- removing stations that do not match the desired outcome for example. So their data is wildly exaggerating the medium-term warming caused by cyclical variations in the sun. Which will, alas, reverse in due time.
Oh geeeez... Milankovitch cycles, Bifurcation theory, ~26,500yr catastrophe cycles...Zharkova, Dietz, Yuga cycles, spherules due to micronavae... I'm helping you put everyone to sleep faster...
The same Antarctica that they were crying had melted 30 or 40%? Remember a couple of years ago when they were on a "mission" to study the global warming and the ship they were on got frozen in and had to get BUSTED OUT of the ice?😂😂😂 They kind of shut up about it for awhile after that. John Kerry though... He has to be seen & heard like any other useless spoiled brat with nothing of benefit to offer besides making noise and a "ME! ME! ME!" attitude. I'm sick of them ALL!
Los Angeles had record cold. The avocado groves in Santa Barbara faced 23 degree nights this past month. But notice They no longer say "global warming", now it's "climate change", the Maunder Minimum being an inconvenient truth.
I've been a supporter of Global Warming for decades. I don't like cold. All my family in FLA agrees, hoping that raising the global temperature will stop the infection of northerners flooding into and polluting Florida. Also, environmentally, if it is warm y'all won't need to burn coal and oil for heat which is a plus ;-)
I can't sleep at night, worrying about the Obama's gaziillion dollar beachfront homes in Martha's Vineyard and Hawai'i. So baffled by those choices, what were they thinking?!?
If you go back and review, may of the folks who are adamant MMGW preachers are nad have been "population control" advocates. You'll find even in academic literature quite a few who note that he only way to stop this crisis is to reduce the human population. Some of the older folks in this lot were warning us of the coming ice age a few decades back. Not surprisingly, they cause and solutions were about the same: fewer people. Other crisis due to the over-population that have been popular include depleting all the life in the oceans and over-farming reducing the entire surface of the earth infertile.
In a surprise move this morning, President Biden fulfilled his campaign promise to seat a black woman on the Supreme Court by appointing Black Lives Matters founder Patrisse Cullors directly to the SCOTUS. The appointment was announced by President Biden at the swearing-in ceremony during which he also signed an Executive Order allowing him to bypass Congress in making the appointment.
Joining the President at the swearing-in of Supreme Court Justice Cullors were Senator Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi smiling broadly in a manner that signified their approval. Both received pens the President used to sign the Executive Order.
In a unanimous show of approval, every member of the Congressional Black Caucus and every U.S. Teachers Union applauded President Bidens action and agreed that this is Socially Justiciable and indeed, a blow to yet another of the Systemic Patriarchal White Supremacist Structural Barriers that Create Real-Life Privileged Marginalization and to the White Heteropatriarchy that make it necessary to implement Trauma Informed Pedagogies and Social Emotional Learning Syllabi, starting in Kindergarten, in the ongoing effort to eliminate Race Based Traumatic Stress and induce a little Prosocial Behavior among those who so desperately need it.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau again donned blackface in support of Bidens action and said, “President Bidens action is absolutely the correct thing to do, and it reinforces my opinion that the little people should just shut up and let their betters do the thinking.” He added that his only regret is that he and his Uncle Raul didn’t think of it first.
When Fox News White House Correspondent Peter Doocy asked President Biden if Justice Cullors had any legal qualifications to be on the Supreme Court, Biden said “Hey! C’mon Man! She’s the most article 3 represented and qualified black matters..umm…up here! She is eminently supposed to do so when in the event of a course of human events and over….you know, the Thing!”
In other news, yesterday, Hunter Biden was overheard at a crack party loudly denouncing any attempt to locate the missing $60+ million that the Black Lives Matter founders scammed out of a gullible American public. He is reported to have said that he didn’t know anything about the missing Black Lives Matter money and that neither he nor his dad nor his Uncle even KNEW Patrisse Cullors and even if he DID know her, the Secret Service will not release the name of the bank.
If the global warming hucksters are so sure man is what is bringing about the destruction of the earth, wouldn't the most noble thing to do on their part be to commit suicide to help save the earth? Seems like they're just half-assing it by staying alive.
Maybe we should create a feel good public service add campaign. "Worried about climate change? Concerned about your carbon footprint? Don't want to bring a new generation into this awful world filled with Nazi's and Trump supporters? We here at Smith and Wesson have the perfect solution for you.....
This is a fact. I got suspended (don't remember which time) for stating that the answer to solving man-made climate change is obviously to kill the children.
I probably could have avoided the ban if I had said "This is why unrestricted abortion access is so important."
LOL...I actually agree with you but I think you knew "kill the children" would not go over well. But the answer is to slow what we have mastered which is the art of breeding. This is why I ignore the man made climate stories...if it is man made then to me the population needs to be reduced, not by killing people already here but as I said start slowing down the process of breeding BUT you will never get the herd on your side. They prefer to think we can "reduce" our impact which I have zero faith in so it will continue until....????
The depopulationists think they have to stick around to turn off the lights. Someone has to do it, they reason. Their patron saint is Sir David Attenborough, and he's still hanging on.
Yikes. By that logic it would be climate denial not to use them. This is a far cry from mutual assured destruction: my weapon protects you, your weapon protects me.
I'm sorry but there is just no way to argue against the point that the last two years has exposed the leftist in this country and around the world as verifiably insane. They've completely removed it from the realm of opinion and put it squarely in the the realm of demonstrable reality.
I have a friend in a large city who just loves anything dystopian. Like The Walking Dead, 12 monkeys, etc. She literally *can't wait* for that type of scenario! It floors me. She thinks it's going to be fun. We don't talk about it because I get too riled up. But she is dead serious. How many more are out there like her? They think it's all going to be just a big game. They are not living in reality and many of them have never known hard times at all in their lives. They have no idea of what we are in for if any of this nightmarish crap becomes reality.
Yeah I know some like this. These are the people who say they are really comfortable with the "people are terrible" angle. Completely forgetting that they will likely be slaughtered at worst, viewed as expendable and herded into some kind of camp, at best, when the time comes. Lot of people who do not realize: if it's gonna be like a movie, your part is: EXTRA.
Truth is, nobody knows for sure what would happen long-term. There are models, there are guesses. But until someone starts lighting them off, and then waiting a few decades to see what happens, we wouldn't know for sure. Models of things that have not yet happened are strikingly likely to be wrong in multiple ways, due to errors of omission.
Just like the global warming models of the enviro bunch: you can input the data from let's say 1900 (about as far back as data exists) up to 2000, and they cannot accurately predict what should be happening now. Even though they should have the opportunity to use all of that more-recent data to update their models. It's all a farce, with manipulated data, data intentionally left out, whatever. They really don't hide it very well; they just count on most peoples' eyes glazing over. Sadly for most it works. Just trust Greta, she knows.
Wow, I may still get to have my throne of skulls on the bed of a 4x4 after all.
Would anyone like to be part of my shirtless leather-clad honor guard? The job may not have longevity but it'll be oodles of fun and lots of good exercise outdoors.
Clearly the 'nuclear' option (pun intended!) is now on the table in order to save Mother Gaia from us evil humans. Let's hope the only red button the Huff Post has access to is on their noses!!!
Just when you think you've reached the apogee of batshit crazy.
The only way this Praetorius (oh, the irony...) idiot could Save the Planet™ via nuclear explosion is if he and the rest of his vast herd of fellow imbeciles had a big party at ground zero and were vaporized in the planet-healing fire.
One can only hope and pray...!!! That would be too absolutely perfect to ever come to pass. It would be INSTANT BENEFIT for the rest of humanity...but gosh not enough "lessons learned" for some who had not undergone enough hardship and DANGER! Darn the luck!!
Of course! In the age where major problems are now minor. Like, "just a little heart attack after the shot" and "just a mild case of myocarditis, but they were so brave"...
If serious, the musings of a madman. If the elites want to initiate a second Little Ice Age and a global famine to reduce the surplus population I can think of nothing better than to emulate volcanic activity with a “small” nuclear war. The sun is already poised to do its part (reduced sunspot activity). Then our madman can write a follow up exhorting those who survive to burn more fossil fuel to reverse the war’s cooling effect because, after all, warm temperatures, longer growing seasons and high CO2 is great for agriculture.
WTF is going on at HuffPost? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if the bomb was dropped in Manhattan, these blue check bozos would have a slightly different opinion on nuking people.
Nope. Look at COVID. They'd double down and twist themselves in philosophical pretzels to align the circumstances with their point of view, perhaps laboring to find greater oppression of black and brown populations due to slightly elevated levels of radiation burning.
The smell of desperation in the air seems to be increasing daily. Mondays are the worst--they announce the creepiest stuff on Mondays to make sure people are paying attention.
Oh shit. Here we go the climate change borg is going to pivot to nuclear war is good. Population reduction, nuclear winter and dictatorship due to an emergency what’s not to like?
“Models suggest that though the world is currently in a warming trend, small-scale war could lower global temperatures…” Models have been GIGO since this mess began. They have no shame. And no brains.
Let’s give it a try. We need to stop Global Warming now, before we reach the tipping point or bad things might happen. What’s the harm in a dash of nuclear Winter?
i saw the john kerry on tv saying the ukraine/russia debacle is taking people's attention away from climate change--f'ing whiner!!!!! why are people still listening to him?
Just when you thought you''ve seen/heard it all here comes this little tidbit. The stupidity is rising exponentially. Place your seat backs and tray tables in their upright and locked position. Up next nuclear jabs coming to a town near you. Need just one jab I swear, no seriously this time.
Idiots! Nuclear war is the last thing the world needs now. Especially since the raw data from the US NOAA Global Historical Climatology Network (GHCN) shows that temperatures in the US have been going down - not up. Tony Heller has been analyzing the data for years and posting it on his website: https://realclimatescience.com/
Not sure about the environment , but it would offer a substantial excuse for an experimental medical products that happens to invade DNA and cause a bunch of cancer in a large portion of the population
Gato, don't give them any ideas. You have to appreciate that the article cited two authoritative sources, National Geographic and Time magazine. Doesn't that call for trotting out the June 2021 Time sunglasses-wearing President cover?
The same crowd offolks who not only fund the research at MIT, but also the project to start the preparations to eject particles into the stratosphere to block the sun. You know...the giver of Life?
Like a jab that prevents Covid...OOPS
You mean the masks that prevent nuclear fallout?
https://www.ready.gov/nuclear-explosion
Go to the basement or middle of the building. Stay away from the outer walls and roof. Try to maintain a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who are not part of your household. If possible, wear a mask if you’re sheltering with people who are not a part of your household.
Now, don't be spreading misinformation! Masks can't stop fallout or forest fire smoke. Only viruses.
AND nuclear fallout.
Survive DURING
If warned of an imminent attack, immediately get inside the nearest building and move away from windows. This will help provide protection from the blast, heat, and radiation of the detonation.
When you have reached a safe place, try to maintain a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who are not part of your household. If possible, wear a mask if you’re sheltering with people who are not a part of your household.
What I was trying to figure out is, why they don't warn against the possibility of your hand sanitizer catching fire from the flash.
to Ed and Fork: great comments, like button not working
Nothing about weariing your UV-approved dark sunglasses, either. Sheesh! It's like they WANT something bad to happen to us.
You win. Best comment today. I ain't gonna bother trying now.
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i was in sac.... living at ground zero our main reassurance was: "the living will envy the dead".
if the siren goes off get outside enjoy the 'glow' and die fast!
if you are charred enough the survivors won't be able to eat you.
Nuh-uh—if you’re quadruple vaxxed, you’ll be just as protected from nuclear fallout as you are from COVID.
Here's another way to look at it: Nuclear fall out cures COVID :-)
Best comment !
AH,there you go - "when you have reached a safe place".
Thankfully I live on the edge of "Silicon Valley", which has to be a first strike target. There be no safe place if the nuclear excrement impacts the mechanical circulation device.
Oddly enough....they are correct for a change about the masks (only n95..not surgical). The whole dangerous part of nuclear fallout is inhaling dust particles that are energized and cause cancer. That's why you see fallout suits looking just like chemical or biological suits. They of course have rung that bell so many times nobody believes them...once again...cry wolf enough times and when you really mean it...nobody listens.
Ah, good point. I was thinking of the cloth / surgical masks that they explicitly said would not work for forest fires or fallout. Of course, the guidance on that site didn't suggest using the masks to protect against fallout, nor specify the type of mask. They only reference masks in relation to COVID.
Yes, they failed once again to be accurate when dispensing advice. They should be telling people what proper masks to wear instead of making it seem covid related as per the usual B.S. they spew. Maybe they are trying to prevent a run on N95's....you know because the important people need to get them first...not us pleebs.
Oh, no, you're wrong. Latest info said to 'social distance and wear your masks' during a nuclear emergency. Idiots.
They've got to do something with that stock of unsold masks.
LOL!
"people who have trouble breathing..." Isn't EVERYBODY going to have trouble breathing?
LOL, I had to go to your link to see if they actually said to wear a mask.
They say it MULTIPLE TIMES throughout the page.
STAY INSIDE
Stay inside for 24 hours unless local authorities provide other instructions. Continue to practice social distancing by wearing a mask and by keeping a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who not part of your household.
Imagine telling people to be concerned about Covid during a nuclear conflagration.
The stupidity is simply staggering.
Monomania pure and simple.
Remember that the first order of business to prepare for a hurricane is to get jabbed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMwJc9_Kads
The Defcon 1 levels of stupidity I've witnessed the last two years is beyond description, no adequate adjectives exist to characterize it. Do large swaths of humanity have serious brain damage at this point?
They always did have. You were just too polite to notice.
Ummm... kitten says, "This is government, isn't it? What do you expect?"
Worse.
Yeah. We should all head to "ground zero" to ensure any virus we've contracted is killed by the heat and radiation.
My older siblings got to do "duck and cover" in school during the Cuban Missile Crisis in the early '60s...
In Atlanta we also did a “walk home”. Someone devised a map with routes that allowed teachers to lead groups of students like numerous Pied Pipers of Hamelin to their homes. This was in case of a nuclear attack. Walking through a nuclear landscape was not an appealing concept for parents. We only had to do it once.
Did those drills as a kid in elementary school. Through most of the 60s until Nixon was elected.
Our assistant principal in high school had a poster on the wall that read something like, "in the event of a nuclear attack, remove all pens and pencils from your pockets, take off eyeglasses and any jewelry you may be wearing, get on the floor, put your head between your knees and kiss your @ss goodbye.."
I was a military brat, got to do it all through the 70s and 80s. I had more faith in Santa than that desk.
You left out the step...bend over and kiss yer a** goodbye....
Bend down and place your head between your thighs. Kiss your arse goodbye. An old one from the 1960s.
It won’t stop global warming but it will make it Less Serious™️.
global warming is a fiction to tax us, co2 is at a 600 million year low
the Antarctic just had its coldest winter in recorded history
Don't let facts get in the way.
But! Who needs CO2!? It's not like we need it ! We're not plants, after all... ( wish there was a sarcasm font )
Well.... all food comes from plants, one way or the other. Interestingly (but not surprisingly) plants thrive at CO2 concentrations higher than 300-400 ppm that we have now. High-productivity greenhouses often have CO2 injection systems, IIRC they target a concentration of 1000-1500 ppm.
'Science knows' from studies of air bubbles frozen in ice sheets and the like, that the concentration of CO2 in the not too distant past (IIRC maybe up to 100,000 years ago, i.e. since the beginning of the last ice age) that CO2 concentrations have ranged from somewhat less than they are now, maybe 200 ppm, up to 1500 ppm.
Curiously though, over that same period the temperatures on Earth have also ranged from cooler than now, to significantly warmer. There were times when the poles had lush tropical vegetation, and times when ice covered much of the surface and even at the equator high temperatures were around 10C or 50F. Surprise!! There was NO CORRELATION between CO2 concentration and temperature over that period. Seems to have had more to do with solar cycles... who'd a thunk it?
Bottom line, the atmosphere has enough CO2 in it to absorb basically all of the infrared radiation from the Earth's surface, even at 200 ppm. It might be 'logical' to think that if you double the CO2 concentration, you double the absorption. And indeed that is true, at very low concentrations where only a small amount of IR is absorbed. But if you get to let's say 200 ppm and 90% of the IR is absorbed, and then you go to 400, that results in 90% of the remaining 10% being absorbed, for a total of 99%. (You can't absorb 180%.) It's a logarithmic curve, not linear: 600 ppm, 99.9%, 800 ppm, 99.99%. You get the picture; law of diminishing returns.
But don't expect anybody who graduated from oh, let's say the Columbia School of Journalism to be able to understand any of this. They're just, you know, not that into 'science.' Only what some idiot tells them, that fits their mindset.
I've got a "carbon dioxide mitigation system" I devised based on Terrestrially Referenced Emission Encapsulation devices. My ensemble of TREEs extracts the harmful emissions form human activity, CO2, and fully eliminates it, converting it to the harmless element oxygen and deals with that evil carbon component.
USPTO denied my patent application. Political hacks!
[SARCASM FLAG!]
I'll bet they would have granted the patent if your name was Gates... or Fauci.
And the waste product can be used as a building material.
and a renewable (for real) energy source.
TREE capture and reclamation!! Who'd have thunk it?! <sarcasm cones also>
Brilliant!
I think some folks missed the sarcasm. Really need a flag or something.
My favorite term in the MMGW dialogue is "carbon mitigation".
Think about it. Carbon is the fundamental element of life as we know it. Carbon mitigation == elimination of life as we know it. Irony? Ignorance? Or Honesty?
The Literal Brigade has membership everywhere....
I try to tell folks-when the Minoan civilization thrived ( volcano anyone?) the earth had temps that would cause most of us now to stroke out. Civilization thrives in warm , CO2 rich climates. The Roman Warn Period ( and with its ease, their fall...crop failures suck)is another such example.
Hey now... what is " life " anyhow?? Your soon-to-be-silicon -embedded Masters find your pre-instigated speciest attitude abhorrent!
There is a book called 'Unstoppable Global Warming (Every 1500 Years) by Singer and Avery. It describes exactly the phenomenon you describe, and connects it to a 1500 year cycle of the Sun.
I remember an episode of a BBC show called 'Castles of Horror' which was shown on CBC and likely PBS in the USA -- mostly they went around Europe and visited old castles and told some of their history, and how they dumped burning oil and molten sulphur on enemies during combat. Fun stuff like that. Well, this one episode was about a castle in Wales (not Carnarvon Castle, but a lesser-known one) where the narrator observed the apparent contradiction of a castle built with a moat on only three sides.
Then he noted, in his dry British accent, "Well, you see, when this castle was built, the world was much warmer and wetter than it is now. The sea level was higher then than it is today, and the ocean, now fully half a mile away, in those days came all the way up to the Western rampart of the castle and filled the moat!"
IIRC the castle was built ca. 800 AD. In those days, wine grapes could be grown as far north as Hadrian's Wall, the border between Scotland and England. Then the earth started cooling. And now it is warming again... the cycles of Nature repeat. Just as the cold of winter leads to the warmth of spring and summer, Nature's other cycles also repeat. There is a ~110,000 year 'ice age' cycle with a ~100,000 year long ice age followed by a ~10,000 year warm interglacial period. We are now coming to the end of such an interglacial period.
So maybe a little global warming would be nice...
Interesting, never saw that one. Probably been banned or at least edited to "correct that misinformation" of historical fact.
Observation driven science provides us with ample data the planet we call earth has never had a stable climate. Astrophysics and Geophysics explains why.
So here's your next challenge: find actual evidence that the earth as we observe it is in a warming trend again. It is widely asserted, but actual data is scarce.
Always challenge your assumptions!!
Well, back when George Washington was fighting the British, the Earth was experiencing the 'Little Ice Age', perhaps correlated to the Maunder Minimum, a long period of little or no sunspot activity. This period was roughly 1300-1850. Since then, the northernmost line in Europe where winegrapes can be grown has consistently marched northward. Still not to Hadrian's Wall though, IIRC the 'line' (which is not really a line) runs through Northern France and Germany, somewhere around or a bit north of Alsace. Unfortunately I don't have ready citations to quote to you, I am working from memory.
Now the MMGW people have lots of 'data' that the Earth is warming but most of it is confounded by measurement biases, such as weather stations that used to be out in the country are now surrounded by development, which increases local temperature. (Forests are cooler than parking lots...) A significant amount of that bias is intentional -- removing stations that do not match the desired outcome for example. So their data is wildly exaggerating the medium-term warming caused by cyclical variations in the sun. Which will, alas, reverse in due time.
Oh geeeez... Milankovitch cycles, Bifurcation theory, ~26,500yr catastrophe cycles...Zharkova, Dietz, Yuga cycles, spherules due to micronavae... I'm helping you put everyone to sleep faster...
Thanks, I appreciate it ;-)
The same Antarctica that they were crying had melted 30 or 40%? Remember a couple of years ago when they were on a "mission" to study the global warming and the ship they were on got frozen in and had to get BUSTED OUT of the ice?😂😂😂 They kind of shut up about it for awhile after that. John Kerry though... He has to be seen & heard like any other useless spoiled brat with nothing of benefit to offer besides making noise and a "ME! ME! ME!" attitude. I'm sick of them ALL!
Los Angeles had record cold. The avocado groves in Santa Barbara faced 23 degree nights this past month. But notice They no longer say "global warming", now it's "climate change", the Maunder Minimum being an inconvenient truth.
I've been a supporter of Global Warming for decades. I don't like cold. All my family in FLA agrees, hoping that raising the global temperature will stop the infection of northerners flooding into and polluting Florida. Also, environmentally, if it is warm y'all won't need to burn coal and oil for heat which is a plus ;-)
I can't sleep at night, worrying about the Obama's gaziillion dollar beachfront homes in Martha's Vineyard and Hawai'i. So baffled by those choices, what were they thinking?!?
Back in the 80s folks were investing in beachfront property in Nevada.
The "big won" was supposed to drop CA into the ocean. All my relatives back in FLA were wondering who'd notice.
I’m reporting you to the Ministry of Truth, comrade.
If you hadn't have done, I would have.
Yeah, but the models say it didn’t.
I have completely stopped reading all so-called mainstream publications. This is just getting beyond ridiculous🤡🤡
Is HuffPo mainstream? I always thought it was downstream. Or wastestream...
Urine stream.
I think it is wise to stay upstream of the lot of them ;-)
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You are missing out on a ton of entertainment Marty!
Start a nuclear war to save the environment, just sacrifice a few unimportant lives along the way.
Why do so many talking heads these days remind me of Thanos?
They even made the same mistake he did: They left people alive who remember what it was like before the 'leaders' screwed everything up.
Bill Gates IS Thanos.
Taking off the sarcasm gloves for a minute...
If you go back and review, may of the folks who are adamant MMGW preachers are nad have been "population control" advocates. You'll find even in academic literature quite a few who note that he only way to stop this crisis is to reduce the human population. Some of the older folks in this lot were warning us of the coming ice age a few decades back. Not surprisingly, they cause and solutions were about the same: fewer people. Other crisis due to the over-population that have been popular include depleting all the life in the oceans and over-farming reducing the entire surface of the earth infertile.
Surprise Biden Move Widely Applauded
In a surprise move this morning, President Biden fulfilled his campaign promise to seat a black woman on the Supreme Court by appointing Black Lives Matters founder Patrisse Cullors directly to the SCOTUS. The appointment was announced by President Biden at the swearing-in ceremony during which he also signed an Executive Order allowing him to bypass Congress in making the appointment.
Joining the President at the swearing-in of Supreme Court Justice Cullors were Senator Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi smiling broadly in a manner that signified their approval. Both received pens the President used to sign the Executive Order.
In a unanimous show of approval, every member of the Congressional Black Caucus and every U.S. Teachers Union applauded President Bidens action and agreed that this is Socially Justiciable and indeed, a blow to yet another of the Systemic Patriarchal White Supremacist Structural Barriers that Create Real-Life Privileged Marginalization and to the White Heteropatriarchy that make it necessary to implement Trauma Informed Pedagogies and Social Emotional Learning Syllabi, starting in Kindergarten, in the ongoing effort to eliminate Race Based Traumatic Stress and induce a little Prosocial Behavior among those who so desperately need it.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau again donned blackface in support of Bidens action and said, “President Bidens action is absolutely the correct thing to do, and it reinforces my opinion that the little people should just shut up and let their betters do the thinking.” He added that his only regret is that he and his Uncle Raul didn’t think of it first.
When Fox News White House Correspondent Peter Doocy asked President Biden if Justice Cullors had any legal qualifications to be on the Supreme Court, Biden said “Hey! C’mon Man! She’s the most article 3 represented and qualified black matters..umm…up here! She is eminently supposed to do so when in the event of a course of human events and over….you know, the Thing!”
In other news, yesterday, Hunter Biden was overheard at a crack party loudly denouncing any attempt to locate the missing $60+ million that the Black Lives Matter founders scammed out of a gullible American public. He is reported to have said that he didn’t know anything about the missing Black Lives Matter money and that neither he nor his dad nor his Uncle even KNEW Patrisse Cullors and even if he DID know her, the Secret Service will not release the name of the bank.
Thanks for including the Canadian perspective.
Sore-y.
If the global warming hucksters are so sure man is what is bringing about the destruction of the earth, wouldn't the most noble thing to do on their part be to commit suicide to help save the earth? Seems like they're just half-assing it by staying alive.
Maybe we should create a feel good public service add campaign. "Worried about climate change? Concerned about your carbon footprint? Don't want to bring a new generation into this awful world filled with Nazi's and Trump supporters? We here at Smith and Wesson have the perfect solution for you.....
Do not EVERRRRR say that on Twitter. They will cancel you right out of town, off of the planet even
This is a fact. I got suspended (don't remember which time) for stating that the answer to solving man-made climate change is obviously to kill the children.
I probably could have avoided the ban if I had said "This is why unrestricted abortion access is so important."
Well, it appears that they've jacked up our children pretty good with these 'wonderful' vaccines, no?
So Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal would have gotten him banned from Twitter.
LOL...I actually agree with you but I think you knew "kill the children" would not go over well. But the answer is to slow what we have mastered which is the art of breeding. This is why I ignore the man made climate stories...if it is man made then to me the population needs to be reduced, not by killing people already here but as I said start slowing down the process of breeding BUT you will never get the herd on your side. They prefer to think we can "reduce" our impact which I have zero faith in so it will continue until....????
The depopulationists think they have to stick around to turn off the lights. Someone has to do it, they reason. Their patron saint is Sir David Attenborough, and he's still hanging on.
In such scenarios, the people left to put the chairs on the tables and switch the lights off are never the ones the self-proclaimed good guys expect.
There will be a renaissance in the culinary arts around long pork, is all I'm saying.
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Yikes. By that logic it would be climate denial not to use them. This is a far cry from mutual assured destruction: my weapon protects you, your weapon protects me.
I'm sorry but there is just no way to argue against the point that the last two years has exposed the leftist in this country and around the world as verifiably insane. They've completely removed it from the realm of opinion and put it squarely in the the realm of demonstrable reality.
Are these people trolling, or are they actually crazy? Or are they knowingly trying to bring this crazy stuff into existence??
I have a friend in a large city who just loves anything dystopian. Like The Walking Dead, 12 monkeys, etc. She literally *can't wait* for that type of scenario! It floors me. She thinks it's going to be fun. We don't talk about it because I get too riled up. But she is dead serious. How many more are out there like her? They think it's all going to be just a big game. They are not living in reality and many of them have never known hard times at all in their lives. They have no idea of what we are in for if any of this nightmarish crap becomes reality.
I guess they don't have much of an imagination. Quite sad, and scary!
Yeah I know some like this. These are the people who say they are really comfortable with the "people are terrible" angle. Completely forgetting that they will likely be slaughtered at worst, viewed as expendable and herded into some kind of camp, at best, when the time comes. Lot of people who do not realize: if it's gonna be like a movie, your part is: EXTRA.
Or is it a warning …
I clicked through to the article, and it turns out, the author does NOT recommend nuclear war, because it might reduce rainfall.
Truth is, nobody knows for sure what would happen long-term. There are models, there are guesses. But until someone starts lighting them off, and then waiting a few decades to see what happens, we wouldn't know for sure. Models of things that have not yet happened are strikingly likely to be wrong in multiple ways, due to errors of omission.
Just like the global warming models of the enviro bunch: you can input the data from let's say 1900 (about as far back as data exists) up to 2000, and they cannot accurately predict what should be happening now. Even though they should have the opportunity to use all of that more-recent data to update their models. It's all a farce, with manipulated data, data intentionally left out, whatever. They really don't hide it very well; they just count on most peoples' eyes glazing over. Sadly for most it works. Just trust Greta, she knows.
Oh, well in that case...
Hot Air about Hot Air
Example #423,653 that we live in a clown world…
Wow, I may still get to have my throne of skulls on the bed of a 4x4 after all.
Would anyone like to be part of my shirtless leather-clad honor guard? The job may not have longevity but it'll be oodles of fun and lots of good exercise outdoors.
The shirtless thing is non-negotiable.
"So much of left wing thought is a kind of playing with fire, by people who don't know that fire is hot."
~ George Orwell
You know how bad things are getting when you can't tell what's parody vs real anymore.
Clearly the 'nuclear' option (pun intended!) is now on the table in order to save Mother Gaia from us evil humans. Let's hope the only red button the Huff Post has access to is on their noses!!!
Just when you think you've reached the apogee of batshit crazy.
The only way this Praetorius (oh, the irony...) idiot could Save the Planet™ via nuclear explosion is if he and the rest of his vast herd of fellow imbeciles had a big party at ground zero and were vaporized in the planet-healing fire.
One can only hope and pray...!!! That would be too absolutely perfect to ever come to pass. It would be INSTANT BENEFIT for the rest of humanity...but gosh not enough "lessons learned" for some who had not undergone enough hardship and DANGER! Darn the luck!!
Could a small nuclear war stop COVID? Could a small nuclear war prevent hard water stains in my toilet? The possibilities are endless.
no such thing as a ‘small’ nuclear war... these idiots.
Of course! In the age where major problems are now minor. Like, "just a little heart attack after the shot" and "just a mild case of myocarditis, but they were so brave"...
If serious, the musings of a madman. If the elites want to initiate a second Little Ice Age and a global famine to reduce the surplus population I can think of nothing better than to emulate volcanic activity with a “small” nuclear war. The sun is already poised to do its part (reduced sunspot activity). Then our madman can write a follow up exhorting those who survive to burn more fossil fuel to reverse the war’s cooling effect because, after all, warm temperatures, longer growing seasons and high CO2 is great for agriculture.
Just the Huffy Poser doing its job to obfuscate and distract and misinform.
Jesus!!
WTF is going on at HuffPost? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if the bomb was dropped in Manhattan, these blue check bozos would have a slightly different opinion on nuking people.
And yes, I saw the date.
Nope. Look at COVID. They'd double down and twist themselves in philosophical pretzels to align the circumstances with their point of view, perhaps laboring to find greater oppression of black and brown populations due to slightly elevated levels of radiation burning.
The smell of desperation in the air seems to be increasing daily. Mondays are the worst--they announce the creepiest stuff on Mondays to make sure people are paying attention.
Oh shit. Here we go the climate change borg is going to pivot to nuclear war is good. Population reduction, nuclear winter and dictatorship due to an emergency what’s not to like?
All in one swell foop!!!
New variants due to radioactive mutations could be a problem.
Forget Kerry… Wait til Bill “Now that I’ve got this whole vaccine thing figured out” Gates gets hold of this.
WTF!!! Perhaps it’s time to teach history again?
“Models suggest that though the world is currently in a warming trend, small-scale war could lower global temperatures…” Models have been GIGO since this mess began. They have no shame. And no brains.
“Fission’s gonna fission”.
Fact check: fusion's gonna fusion. Hiroshima bombs are no longer available.
In case you thought the press didn't have contempt for you
Insanity spreads like bush fire..
Let’s give it a try. We need to stop Global Warming now, before we reach the tipping point or bad things might happen. What’s the harm in a dash of nuclear Winter?
i saw the john kerry on tv saying the ukraine/russia debacle is taking people's attention away from climate change--f'ing whiner!!!!! why are people still listening to him?
Real question:
"Could a small nuclear war depopulate the west better than C0VID vaxxines?"
That headline might be the ultimate oxymoron…and the writer probably is a moron. Good God.
We really are entering a strange new world. Has the SR90 levels in grass gone down too much? Animals need a boost of this mineral?
Chernobyl caused that. Russian forces have recently taken Chernobyl, so maybe Putin can help you out there. Make hay while the sun shines, I say.
I'd say something, but this leaves me speechless......
Just when you thought you''ve seen/heard it all here comes this little tidbit. The stupidity is rising exponentially. Place your seat backs and tray tables in their upright and locked position. Up next nuclear jabs coming to a town near you. Need just one jab I swear, no seriously this time.
Yes, it’s called a “Nuclear Winter”. Fact Check = TRUE
When they’re trying to normalize nuclear war, you kinda know you’re in very deep kimchee.
thermonuclear war is a LGBT+ rights issue.
Call the President
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I'm on enough lists already, I'm sure. No need to create more work for bureaucrats.
I feel the same. I write my Reps, not as often as I used to
Idiots! Nuclear war is the last thing the world needs now. Especially since the raw data from the US NOAA Global Historical Climatology Network (GHCN) shows that temperatures in the US have been going down - not up. Tony Heller has been analyzing the data for years and posting it on his website: https://realclimatescience.com/
You can download his source code to analyze the data from: https://realclimatescience.com/unhiding-the-decline-for-windows/
You can also download the raw data directly from the NOAA using FTP: ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov
Not sure about the environment , but it would offer a substantial excuse for an experimental medical products that happens to invade DNA and cause a bunch of cancer in a large portion of the population
“We need to blow up the world to save it from humans.”
Gato, don't give them any ideas. You have to appreciate that the article cited two authoritative sources, National Geographic and Time magazine. Doesn't that call for trotting out the June 2021 Time sunglasses-wearing President cover?
That was 11 years ago; maybe the The Science changed.
The same crowd offolks who not only fund the research at MIT, but also the project to start the preparations to eject particles into the stratosphere to block the sun. You know...the giver of Life?
* bangs head against wall*
and a *really* big nuclear war would do even more to fix global warming!
And canceling the mid-terms.
Biden might not even have to do, you know, that state of the... what was it anyway?
And might even get a start on the overpopulation problem.
These people are insane!!!!!
The temperature change to end all temperature change