Yes! I didn't like that list of demands, it cedes the premise that the vaccines are actually worth something, and so mandates could be legitimate. What? Why? The data is saying they don't work well, and probably cause more harm than help! The JPL statement posted above is right in spirit, but badly wrong and flawed in detail. Do better JPL'ers!
Since March, 2020, I've been feeling "the cure is worse than the disease" at every new policy step. I've yet to see anything to take that feeling away from me.
The best part is that these folks are immune from the “follow the science” mantra. At this point the real conversation is revolves around statistics and data science, and I don’t think anyone in the FDA, CDC, or NIH can hold a candle to their analytic skills.
I used those arguments with a MD and all I got was you are misinformed 🤦♀️ they don’t even look at studies. They just get some bulletin from the cdc and repeat it. Even cite NYT articles. I find it laughable they say follow the science and they don’t even know it.
yes med school is brainwashing paid for by pharma and med practice is being lobbied by the pharma industry and not having your own private practice is following the policies to a T as demanded of you- and lose your license if you peep- few MDs will speak up. But techie geeks?! Math majors! (my parents were math majors) I love those guys and their pocket protectors. This is their chance to be heroes exposing corruption. Glad someone is listening to them here.
yup. i have a house manager who runs one of my luxury rental properties and she is going to be fired bc the owner of the firm who reps our properties has said "my boyfriend is a dr and so if you want to know the truth you can talk to him". um. what. the. fuck. she literally told my house manager she is misinformed and needs proper chats with MDs.
Exactly! Unless the docs are reading original sources, I have no respect for them at all. I am usually better informed. Not their fault really; they went through 8-10 of conditioning to respect The Authorities. When I got my PhD, my postdoc said "The only thing I want you to learn from me is 'Bow down before no god.' Even Nobel prizewinners can be wrong. Always check for yourself." I think about that conversation often these days.
Yes the NIST slime who wrote the BS report on the collapse of building 7. I figured if we didn't imprison the real 9/11 perps they would be back to bite us in the ass, and here we are!!
Quite true but mountains to bite us in the ass.. NIST bogus WTC7 report hardly stands alone or the worst of the crimes that have gone unprosecuted, even among those the public knows... many more are buried in sealed archives but since then..
2003 CIA asset Curveball intelligence source to launch Iraq War.. Colin Powell UN mushroom cloud.. Judith Miller take down of Joe Wilson & Valerie Plame in the process..
By 2010 evidence of horrific war crimes leaked by Manning who was arrested and tortured.. 3 months in a covered dog cage in Iraq..
War crimes and body counts were published by WikiLeaks & Assange has been hunted since.. an Aussie in London in UK GITMO under terrorist conditions.. Free Speech is under threat with Espionage Act charges stretched to encompass any journalism Washington doesn't like by anyone anywhere.
2014 NSA domestic spying, mass surveillance crimes revealed by Snowden so he's stranded in Russia since Obama/Hillary DoS pulled his passport...
CIA black site torture got Bloody Gina Haspel her character in Zero Dark 30 and promoted to CIA Director.. ooh oooh a woman diversity is progress... CIA agent John Kiriakou confirmed torture was official policy not rouge agents.. Prosecuted under 1917 Espionage Act & spent 53 months in Federal Max prison..
The list of honorable folks crushed is very long and the bloodthirsty killers & psychos get gigs as media experts & Board seats... The Washington Mafia protects its bag men & promotes the best cons! :~)
True but the NIST employees had no negative repercussions for going along now the JPL have their own butts on the line for an experimental gene therapy injections.
Amazing how clear minded people get when their lives are on the line.
I’ve worked 30 years in clinical research and I read the FDA submission for all the products as they became available. My eyes popped out of my head at the adverse event sections. Every trial I ever ran would have been stopped cold by the DSMB ( data safety monitoring board) and certainly would not have been submitted to the FDA let alone approved. I immediately began contacting every family member and every friend of mine in healthcare to tell them to run for their life, literally, from that shot. I have made it a mission to save as many young people as possible. I used my research and writing skills to become an expert at exemption requests and help them navigate. This is pure evil.
With school mandates becoming inevitable , and I read that lausd was not even allowing for religious exemptions , I think the only realistic option is to pull our kids out.
I think you are right, it may come to that. the initial LAUSD court battle is not going super well. kind of up to the judges. Prepare an exit strategy! Nice that a lot of teachers are out of work because of the mandates at the same time. Some families are forming pods, others are setting up private membership associations. There are many choices including the many flavors of homeschooling. I recommend reading John Holt and John Taylor Gatto, Grace Llewyln, but your mileage may vary.
As COP26 and the World Economic Forum and UN plans see progress, there is a curious wisdom in your observation. Neros are fiddlin'. We gotta put out these fires, or be prepared to survive the ensuing miseries.
Do you understand how frustrating it is for a lay person to read this? Most of us lack the knowledge and insight to see through the BS, and because of that, we are as lambs to the slaughter. I'm just thankful I stumbled in here, and can now read what real scientists have to say! Is this just about Big Pharma wanting more money, or is something even more sinister going on?
Big Pharma is a tool. This thing is a veritable onion it has so many layers. The virus was all about the vaccine. The vaccine is all about the digital passport. The digital passport is all about your slavery.
Sure feels like it. Never let a good crisis go to waste, eh? Plans on a shelf...waiting for the right time to be tried. Maybe NIH helped "make" it the right time.
Wish I knew. There was a great article on International Man a few months back. The claim was that there are dozens of arrogant Elite with Plans To Fix The World (which mostly involve controlling us serfs). They all see this as their big chance, and so all the nutcases are coming out of the closet now. Also, don't discount the effect of groupthink and mass psychosis (see the After Skool YouTube video). We essentially have a global Salem witch trial...
It’s obvious he’s protected by some powerful people ... no one in this administration is being held accountable for their failures . Milley, Blinken, Pete, and Biden , etc
Excellent defense of responsible citizenship and medical rights for humans to act in "self-determination". As an employee at NASA HQ and GSFC (ESTO), I appreciate our meetings at JPL. Thank you for articulating a class-action government FTE protest, the merit-based evidence, and validity of this perspective, such that ethical alignment has been violated by NIH and should be considered in our US Supreme court.
Wow ! at least some scientists speak up! There is an article in Newsweek about Fauci, where a couple of scientists waylay the whole handling of the virus. Really good.
"A couple scientists" are Drs MARTIN KULLDORFF AND JAY BHATTACHARYA of Harvard & Stanford, respectively.
Martin Kulldorff, Ph.D., is an epidemiologist, biostatistician, and Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School. Jay Bhattacharya, MD, Ph.D., is a Professor of Health Policy at Stanford University School of Medicine. Both are Senior Scholars at the newly formed Brownstone Institute.
Kudos to Newsweek. Mighty brave of them. Of course, Kulldoff & Bhattacharya are part of the original Great Barrington declaration that should have been policy. Placing our hope on vaccines has been a failure that none want to admit.
Cdc has lost the trust of many Americans by their denial of natural immunity as being superior to vaccine immunity, recommendation of masking our toddlers and children , and not discussing proactive ways to boost immune system starting with losing weight and increasing our vitamin d levels !
I'm no PhD, nor am I mathematically inclined. I do, however, know horseshit when I see it.
Nevertheless, I appreciate it when others take the time to examine, dissect it and clarify it's contents. It's a dirty job for which I am truly thankful.
I am a BSN. But non of my education really played a part in sniffing out the BS. After 2 weeks to slow the spread showed high positive rates and low hospitalization and deaths, I was on to them. Then Birx with her "liberal approach to mortality" WHAT? in a real pandemic wouldn't you have strict criteria to work out the right numbers?? Super obvious...
This! They said it out loud in the first wave of press conferences and in print in the NYT, yet when I pointed this out to the Covidians (within days of it happening), "...i don't remember that."
My nephew, who works for Dunn Construction, was informed that he had to get the vaccine by 11/9 because he’s working on a government contract and they require all sub-contractors be stuck. My nephew has had the CCP. Virus and still has antibodies. The science of vaccines is just pure BS.
there needs to be a contract modification to add a requirement like injecting the danger vaccine to work. it would also have to change the temrination clause which make gumint contracts different than commercial!
but the company can subit and make their employees submit
Even if you just have a modicum of scientific training you can easily see in the data that there are problems with the vaccines. And, yeah, Rocket Scientist can do the math.
Doctors can’t. No offense. But they can’t. There are good ones out there who think for themselves but many are just follow the well check guidelines from AMA / acog etc and don’t ever deviate. In a sense modern doctors simply follow orders. Good medical science is rare now. Eg when I asked for some extra testing for my child with good reason I have been laughed at, belittled and whatnot. Each time I insisted and turned out to be right. If I hadn’t researched and asked for tests my kiddo would have been left out.
The math most doctors do stop at mg/Kg. Full stop.
When I had to argue against a statin 15 years ago and explained relative compared to absolute risk, my doctor(at the time) eyes glazed over and he spun on his heel leaving the room and pretty much called me an idiot. Since then my HDL and Triglycerides are now equal which is the gold standard of metabolic health. I did that by doing research. Dr dimwit wanted me on statins and the standard American diet. I'd probably have a stent or two by now following his SCIENCE!
Exactly. I have a degree in a form of social science and even I could immediately tell that the methods and endpoints had been designed to make the study a success rather than showing how the vaccine will perform in a way that's actually relevant to anyone taking it.
I suppose the risk of a poorly-studied vaccine was acceptable (to some) at the time because of how the early reports from China etc. were looking, but we learned quite quickly that the virus is much less dangerous than we thought which SHOULD mean that the risk we are willing to take on a poorly-studied vaccine will be much smaller. But how many times have you seen authorities recognise and incorporate positive findings?
Same. Graduate degree in the social sciences and the studies are a laughable abuse of the scientific method. Lipstick on a pig. My professors at Uni would have failed me with such study design.
Caltech mandated vaccines for its staff and students earlier. JPL was not included in that mandate, but it got caught up in Biden’s federal contractor decree. Caltech recently renamed some buildings, if I recall it was because the original honorees supported eugenics way back. So there are other influences besides science at that school.
Asking for mercy, basically. According to Canadian Constitution, no religious or any other exception is required for anyone to decline any vaccine, or any other medical treatment for that matter. A no is a no. Not that Canadian Constitution is garnering any respect at the moment. But lawsuits are building up steam fast. In a year or two we’ll have a ruling, by the Supreme Court of Canada, once again LOL. Will be too late for many a folk losing their jobs today.
Fuckbook (or is it Meata) just put me in 7 day jail for sharing El Gato’s Marek’s post as it goes against community standards. I guess the standard is bury your head in the sand.
I barely got through h.s. math (ok, so I guess I should have shown up more, but I digress) and have been following the data since March 16, 2020 and it never, ever merited the response of masks, lockdowns or 6 feet.
well leftists are against anti vaxxers, unless it is family. I am willing to bet there are plenty of leftists that have refused the vaxx for their own reasons.
Funny...
My niece and her new husband did not vaxx. They are raging liberals. My brother, her father, is a flaming liberal. He got a vaxx of course like a good comrad.
To them, the kids are not anti vaxxers though. My brother said, no they are just not getting the vaxx in case they want kids (? sounds like anti-vaxx to me)
If we've learned anything during this scam, we've learned that TPTB (GloboCap, etc.) could not care less about the damage the mandates create. If TPTB, or their politician puppets, cared about any of the carnage they are creating, they would back down on the mandates. The fact that they don't tells us all we need to know about the horrible damage they are causing, all in the name of profit and totalitarian control. Sad times.
One of the problems for Biden and the Democrats who are following him is that some groups of people, including these rocket scientists, are realizing that they have quite a bit of leverage. If this winds up being a raw power struggle and lots of people walk off the job, well, do you really trust the politicians to figure out how to keep things going without the essential workers?
DeBlasio was on nightly news saying everything is fine, no services were delayed. Multiple news outlets reported 18 fire companies were out of service due to vax mandates.
This is beyond Biden ... just listen to Klaus Schwab from the world economic forum. This is a totalitarian new world order that wants to control us with a social credit score implemented via a digital id.
Now Kitty, these may be some of the smartest people on the planet when it comes to analysing data and doing the maths - but this is way to complex for them to work out - that's why we have to leave it to the smarter people in the White House.
So? Do you think the location of their protest reflects negatively on the scientists' principles or veracity? Where do YOU think they should protest? And why are you laughing at people who are exercising their rights?
It reflects negatively on their willingness to do what is necessary to gain freedom. Cosplaying civil rights advocate on a driveway adjacent to a marsh frequented by literally no one is not revolution.
That's contextual on where you are. In LA and other places, you leave. It's too late, you're already an unperson and should be grateful it's possible to get out at all. If your job is important, great - sabotage it on your way out. A single tech could render QA a nightmare on everything JPL is working on in a few hours.
Dear Ph.D. types commenting below. This isn’t about a virus. This is a depopulation event. As Gore Vidal once said “I’m a conspiracy analyst” and this conspiracy isn’t a theory. I’m a physician. I’ll never agree to be vaccinated again with anything that Big Pharma produces. They’ve demonstrated that they are corrupt and dangerous.
really? That's wonderful. I wish I could have been there. I'm a Fed, but nobody around me is protesting. (VT.) Do you work for JPL? I visited the labs there for a few days awhile back. It seemed like such an interesting place to work.
I do work at JPL. (Well at least for another month.) It was my dream job after many years in aerospace. It is a place with a lot of energy, constant visitors. Most everyone has been working from home since last March, though. I know that all the NASA centers have groups fighting the mandate, and are coordinating efforts. We need bigger numbers. I am pleased to report that some vaccinated employees are standing with us fighting the mandate.
Oh, lucky you! I know there are lots of Feds who would protest. Our union let slip that 22% of our agency isn't vaxxed. These mandates are barbaric and nonsensical. We've been operating on maximum telework since last March -- and there are no plans to return to an office anyway. (BTW, I hate telework.) Who am I going to infect at home? And if they cared about my health so much, they would have paid for me to get a proper home office and a radon test for the house. I'll be requesting a religious accommodation, but...who knows what they'll do.
The UK slightly slower off the mark with mandates but it's obvious which way the wind is blowing. Devolved parliaments in Scotland and Wales (where I live) have already implemented vax pass for events & some hospitality, Northern Ireland in the pipeline, can't be long before England joins in & probably starts stricter vax-only measures.
Anyway, my point is - and I made it on twitter at least 6 months ago - is that the USA is the key player in our global struggle against totalitarianism & over the pond we're praying for strength & resolve in that indomitable US spirit of freedom to tip the balance and ignite a global fightback.
If the vaccines were to be administered on the International Space Station, everyone would be positive by day 7, even the folks hanging out from the ship in space suit. That's how safe and effective these vaccines are.
How about traditional, inactivated virus vaccines? there are 4 or 5 of them in various stage of testing and use around the world. the majority of them are produced by China. funny thing, that, no? Covaxin, and Coronavac, e.g. and these kinds of vaccines are the only ones in use in China. funny thing about that, no?
wouldn't it be nice to have treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin that are safe. but oh, wait ... their existence would invalidate the conditions of the Emergency Use Authorisations of the 3 US-used "vaccines".
The CDC and Fauci are now just trying to force vaccinate everyone to get rid of the control group. They know they have placed the Mother of All Lemons on the market with these vaccines. They're attempting a cover-up. They've been doing the same thing with the childhood vaccination program. You can read about it here:
"Fauci's Glaring Cohort Problem and Why He Needs Your Kid Vaxxed"
Appreciate the bad cattitude and comments! Same mandate to employees at the company I work for (large software company) and to my brother in law's company (large wireless carrier). Both read about the same as the JPL mandate so likely a final demand with specifics by the US mash potato brain administration to company's that contract with the US federal government.
Full vax proof on or before December 8 with second shot by November 24. No testing option. Medical and religious exemptions may be submitted for review.
I have multiple benign brain/head tumors with one of them being treated by gamma knife as it was destroying my facial nerve. One other on my optic nerve impacting my vision. I called neurology at the hospital that did the gamma knife and brought up a concern about my propensity for benign tumors (also had thyroid removed due to nodules) and known adverse reactions from the vax regarding blood clots and cysts (?). I got as far as the nurse who responded: we recommend that all our patients get vaccinated. Based on that response, I'd say it's unlikely a medical exemption will be an option for me. Although, I've not gone through the religious questionnaire there appears to be one question that will catch a significant number of us: have you ever received a vaccine in the past.
I was very excited to see this. But I hate to report that this is not very helpful: I asked my close relative (don't want to say who) about this and they said that this is less than .5% of the workforce.
How about JPL employees demand their employer to fuck off and institute NO MANDATE WHATSOEVER?
In exactly that order!
Yes! I didn't like that list of demands, it cedes the premise that the vaccines are actually worth something, and so mandates could be legitimate. What? Why? The data is saying they don't work well, and probably cause more harm than help! The JPL statement posted above is right in spirit, but badly wrong and flawed in detail. Do better JPL'ers!
Since March, 2020, I've been feeling "the cure is worse than the disease" at every new policy step. I've yet to see anything to take that feeling away from me.
I think they should upload a software "fix" to a few satellites and hold them hostage until management comes to their senses.
The best part is that these folks are immune from the “follow the science” mantra. At this point the real conversation is revolves around statistics and data science, and I don’t think anyone in the FDA, CDC, or NIH can hold a candle to their analytic skills.
I used those arguments with a MD and all I got was you are misinformed 🤦♀️ they don’t even look at studies. They just get some bulletin from the cdc and repeat it. Even cite NYT articles. I find it laughable they say follow the science and they don’t even know it.
yes med school is brainwashing paid for by pharma and med practice is being lobbied by the pharma industry and not having your own private practice is following the policies to a T as demanded of you- and lose your license if you peep- few MDs will speak up. But techie geeks?! Math majors! (my parents were math majors) I love those guys and their pocket protectors. This is their chance to be heroes exposing corruption. Glad someone is listening to them here.
yup. i have a house manager who runs one of my luxury rental properties and she is going to be fired bc the owner of the firm who reps our properties has said "my boyfriend is a dr and so if you want to know the truth you can talk to him". um. what. the. fuck. she literally told my house manager she is misinformed and needs proper chats with MDs.
Exactly! Unless the docs are reading original sources, I have no respect for them at all. I am usually better informed. Not their fault really; they went through 8-10 of conditioning to respect The Authorities. When I got my PhD, my postdoc said "The only thing I want you to learn from me is 'Bow down before no god.' Even Nobel prizewinners can be wrong. Always check for yourself." I think about that conversation often these days.
Yes the NIST slime who wrote the BS report on the collapse of building 7. I figured if we didn't imprison the real 9/11 perps they would be back to bite us in the ass, and here we are!!
Quite true but mountains to bite us in the ass.. NIST bogus WTC7 report hardly stands alone or the worst of the crimes that have gone unprosecuted, even among those the public knows... many more are buried in sealed archives but since then..
2003 CIA asset Curveball intelligence source to launch Iraq War.. Colin Powell UN mushroom cloud.. Judith Miller take down of Joe Wilson & Valerie Plame in the process..
By 2010 evidence of horrific war crimes leaked by Manning who was arrested and tortured.. 3 months in a covered dog cage in Iraq..
War crimes and body counts were published by WikiLeaks & Assange has been hunted since.. an Aussie in London in UK GITMO under terrorist conditions.. Free Speech is under threat with Espionage Act charges stretched to encompass any journalism Washington doesn't like by anyone anywhere.
2014 NSA domestic spying, mass surveillance crimes revealed by Snowden so he's stranded in Russia since Obama/Hillary DoS pulled his passport...
CIA black site torture got Bloody Gina Haspel her character in Zero Dark 30 and promoted to CIA Director.. ooh oooh a woman diversity is progress... CIA agent John Kiriakou confirmed torture was official policy not rouge agents.. Prosecuted under 1917 Espionage Act & spent 53 months in Federal Max prison..
The list of honorable folks crushed is very long and the bloodthirsty killers & psychos get gigs as media experts & Board seats... The Washington Mafia protects its bag men & promotes the best cons! :~)
Hel-lo! Let's have a scotch and a cigar together, mate!
Easy to find me with feet in the street - Walkout 1pm tomorrow City Hall
https://www.screencast.com/t/JE0UtlgJce
Wow and wow! Something tells me an afternoon conversing with you would be a mind blowing experience! Is there a book in your future?
Only if it's mostly pictures! :~)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pameladrew/albums/with/72157642150732764
Not really a fair comparison because NIST published the official opinion they did not make beliefs part of individual employment and health.
True but the NIST employees had no negative repercussions for going along now the JPL have their own butts on the line for an experimental gene therapy injections.
Amazing how clear minded people get when their lives are on the line.
I’ve worked 30 years in clinical research and I read the FDA submission for all the products as they became available. My eyes popped out of my head at the adverse event sections. Every trial I ever ran would have been stopped cold by the DSMB ( data safety monitoring board) and certainly would not have been submitted to the FDA let alone approved. I immediately began contacting every family member and every friend of mine in healthcare to tell them to run for their life, literally, from that shot. I have made it a mission to save as many young people as possible. I used my research and writing skills to become an expert at exemption requests and help them navigate. This is pure evil.
With school mandates becoming inevitable , and I read that lausd was not even allowing for religious exemptions , I think the only realistic option is to pull our kids out.
I think you are right, it may come to that. the initial LAUSD court battle is not going super well. kind of up to the judges. Prepare an exit strategy! Nice that a lot of teachers are out of work because of the mandates at the same time. Some families are forming pods, others are setting up private membership associations. There are many choices including the many flavors of homeschooling. I recommend reading John Holt and John Taylor Gatto, Grace Llewyln, but your mileage may vary.
This is ww2-ww1 going backwards in time as we fall back to pre-oil civilization
As COP26 and the World Economic Forum and UN plans see progress, there is a curious wisdom in your observation. Neros are fiddlin'. We gotta put out these fires, or be prepared to survive the ensuing miseries.
“Progress” - depopulation
Do you understand how frustrating it is for a lay person to read this? Most of us lack the knowledge and insight to see through the BS, and because of that, we are as lambs to the slaughter. I'm just thankful I stumbled in here, and can now read what real scientists have to say! Is this just about Big Pharma wanting more money, or is something even more sinister going on?
Big Pharma is a tool. This thing is a veritable onion it has so many layers. The virus was all about the vaccine. The vaccine is all about the digital passport. The digital passport is all about your slavery.
https://www.facebook.com/renegaade.mind/
Sure feels like it. Never let a good crisis go to waste, eh? Plans on a shelf...waiting for the right time to be tried. Maybe NIH helped "make" it the right time.
Well put!
Wish I knew. There was a great article on International Man a few months back. The claim was that there are dozens of arrogant Elite with Plans To Fix The World (which mostly involve controlling us serfs). They all see this as their big chance, and so all the nutcases are coming out of the closet now. Also, don't discount the effect of groupthink and mass psychosis (see the After Skool YouTube video). We essentially have a global Salem witch trial...
Nut cases? I can remove my tinfoil any time. Can you remove your spike proteins?
Fauci for jail 2022
Fauci for the firing squad, my friend.
He responded like a total POS during that recent hearing with Rand
or to dangle.. publicly...
Fauci for jail NOW. Yesterday!
It’s obvious he’s protected by some powerful people ... no one in this administration is being held accountable for their failures . Milley, Blinken, Pete, and Biden , etc
The big problem with government. No accountability. Destroy the economy? Ok, now you need a bigger department to "fix" it. Here's your raise.
The 1%, or more specifically The .001%. This is a spiritual war of nerds and hoary banksters vs the 99% “overpopulation”
Pfft yeah they may be scientists and all "space smart" and stuff but no one is smarter than Don Lemon and CNN!
We really do need a sarcasm font...
Excellent defense of responsible citizenship and medical rights for humans to act in "self-determination". As an employee at NASA HQ and GSFC (ESTO), I appreciate our meetings at JPL. Thank you for articulating a class-action government FTE protest, the merit-based evidence, and validity of this perspective, such that ethical alignment has been violated by NIH and should be considered in our US Supreme court.
Obviously JPL don't have the same grasp of science as Joe Biden & Bill DeBlasio etc
Wow ! at least some scientists speak up! There is an article in Newsweek about Fauci, where a couple of scientists waylay the whole handling of the virus. Really good.
I saw the article earlier today. Excellent - it will be hard to smear them.
https://www.newsweek.com/how-fauci-fooled-america-opinion-1643839
"A couple scientists" are Drs MARTIN KULLDORFF AND JAY BHATTACHARYA of Harvard & Stanford, respectively.
Martin Kulldorff, Ph.D., is an epidemiologist, biostatistician, and Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School. Jay Bhattacharya, MD, Ph.D., is a Professor of Health Policy at Stanford University School of Medicine. Both are Senior Scholars at the newly formed Brownstone Institute.
Kudos to Newsweek. Mighty brave of them. Of course, Kulldoff & Bhattacharya are part of the original Great Barrington declaration that should have been policy. Placing our hope on vaccines has been a failure that none want to admit.
Cdc has lost the trust of many Americans by their denial of natural immunity as being superior to vaccine immunity, recommendation of masking our toddlers and children , and not discussing proactive ways to boost immune system starting with losing weight and increasing our vitamin d levels !
I doubt whether any kudos to Newsweek. Probably lining up Fxi to be fired (as I've picked up elsewhere - all those poor Beagles, etc).
I'm no PhD, nor am I mathematically inclined. I do, however, know horseshit when I see it.
Nevertheless, I appreciate it when others take the time to examine, dissect it and clarify it's contents. It's a dirty job for which I am truly thankful.
I am a BSN. But non of my education really played a part in sniffing out the BS. After 2 weeks to slow the spread showed high positive rates and low hospitalization and deaths, I was on to them. Then Birx with her "liberal approach to mortality" WHAT? in a real pandemic wouldn't you have strict criteria to work out the right numbers?? Super obvious...
This! They said it out loud in the first wave of press conferences and in print in the NYT, yet when I pointed this out to the Covidians (within days of it happening), "...i don't remember that."
My nephew, who works for Dunn Construction, was informed that he had to get the vaccine by 11/9 because he’s working on a government contract and they require all sub-contractors be stuck. My nephew has had the CCP. Virus and still has antibodies. The science of vaccines is just pure BS.
there needs to be a contract modification to add a requirement like injecting the danger vaccine to work. it would also have to change the temrination clause which make gumint contracts different than commercial!
but the company can subit and make their employees submit
until we rebel
do no busines with dunn....
Done with Dunn!
Even if you just have a modicum of scientific training you can easily see in the data that there are problems with the vaccines. And, yeah, Rocket Scientist can do the math.
Doctors can’t. No offense. But they can’t. There are good ones out there who think for themselves but many are just follow the well check guidelines from AMA / acog etc and don’t ever deviate. In a sense modern doctors simply follow orders. Good medical science is rare now. Eg when I asked for some extra testing for my child with good reason I have been laughed at, belittled and whatnot. Each time I insisted and turned out to be right. If I hadn’t researched and asked for tests my kiddo would have been left out.
The math most doctors do stop at mg/Kg. Full stop.
When I had to argue against a statin 15 years ago and explained relative compared to absolute risk, my doctor(at the time) eyes glazed over and he spun on his heel leaving the room and pretty much called me an idiot. Since then my HDL and Triglycerides are now equal which is the gold standard of metabolic health. I did that by doing research. Dr dimwit wanted me on statins and the standard American diet. I'd probably have a stent or two by now following his SCIENCE!
Corporate medicine has become group think .
Exactly. I have a degree in a form of social science and even I could immediately tell that the methods and endpoints had been designed to make the study a success rather than showing how the vaccine will perform in a way that's actually relevant to anyone taking it.
I suppose the risk of a poorly-studied vaccine was acceptable (to some) at the time because of how the early reports from China etc. were looking, but we learned quite quickly that the virus is much less dangerous than we thought which SHOULD mean that the risk we are willing to take on a poorly-studied vaccine will be much smaller. But how many times have you seen authorities recognise and incorporate positive findings?
Same. Graduate degree in the social sciences and the studies are a laughable abuse of the scientific method. Lipstick on a pig. My professors at Uni would have failed me with such study design.
By the way, JPL is run for NASA by CalTech. So yeah, a little bit of science knowledge over there.
Caltech mandated vaccines for its staff and students earlier. JPL was not included in that mandate, but it got caught up in Biden’s federal contractor decree. Caltech recently renamed some buildings, if I recall it was because the original honorees supported eugenics way back. So there are other influences besides science at that school.
Asking for mercy, basically. According to Canadian Constitution, no religious or any other exception is required for anyone to decline any vaccine, or any other medical treatment for that matter. A no is a no. Not that Canadian Constitution is garnering any respect at the moment. But lawsuits are building up steam fast. In a year or two we’ll have a ruling, by the Supreme Court of Canada, once again LOL. Will be too late for many a folk losing their jobs today.
And these are not even vaccines. They are experimental and there is no law to stand on to force them onto people, and then there is Nurnberg.
by saying "goodbye" today one makes room for tomorrows "hello".
Fuckbook (or is it Meata) just put me in 7 day jail for sharing El Gato’s Marek’s post as it goes against community standards. I guess the standard is bury your head in the sand.
I think it's Meta - Make Everything Trump Again!
lol thats a good one! how about #MAGAVERSE to compete with Metaverse lol
Can't take credit for that though. I saw it somewhere else today and thought it was hilarious.
Share it here
Rock on! It doesn't take a rocket scientist … or maybe it does ;-)
It does not.
I barely got through h.s. math (ok, so I guess I should have shown up more, but I digress) and have been following the data since March 16, 2020 and it never, ever merited the response of masks, lockdowns or 6 feet.
Rock on, indeed!
well leftists are against anti vaxxers, unless it is family. I am willing to bet there are plenty of leftists that have refused the vaxx for their own reasons.
Funny...
My niece and her new husband did not vaxx. They are raging liberals. My brother, her father, is a flaming liberal. He got a vaxx of course like a good comrad.
To them, the kids are not anti vaxxers though. My brother said, no they are just not getting the vaxx in case they want kids (? sounds like anti-vaxx to me)
This is what brain damage looks like
I trust the rocket scientists LONG before the CDC, FAUCI or any of our GOVT Politicians. ALL HAIL the ROCKET SCIENTISTS!!!!
All you need is to follow the Z protocol.
HCQ + Zn + Z Pack?
Stupid rocket scientists! They don't believe in science!
They obviously don't believe in being conformists. Good scientists cannot go along to get along.
Brandon, you have a problem.
Just one?? Really?? Only one?
If we've learned anything during this scam, we've learned that TPTB (GloboCap, etc.) could not care less about the damage the mandates create. If TPTB, or their politician puppets, cared about any of the carnage they are creating, they would back down on the mandates. The fact that they don't tells us all we need to know about the horrible damage they are causing, all in the name of profit and totalitarian control. Sad times.
One of the problems for Biden and the Democrats who are following him is that some groups of people, including these rocket scientists, are realizing that they have quite a bit of leverage. If this winds up being a raw power struggle and lots of people walk off the job, well, do you really trust the politicians to figure out how to keep things going without the essential workers?
According to DeBlasio, everything is just fine with 18 fire companies out of service.
put the meme of the dog in the burning kitchen saying, "this is fine, everything is fine"
Please expand on this
DeBlasio was on nightly news saying everything is fine, no services were delayed. Multiple news outlets reported 18 fire companies were out of service due to vax mandates.
Presumably because deBlasio is incapable of overriding this (federal) policy?
Now also reporting trash piling up. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/18-fire-companies-close-trash-piles-up-amid-new-york-citys-covid-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAQdOhe
This is beyond Biden ... just listen to Klaus Schwab from the world economic forum. This is a totalitarian new world order that wants to control us with a social credit score implemented via a digital id.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/01/prince-charles-calls-for-vast-military-style-campaign-to-radically-transform-worlds-economy/
Now Prince Charles calls for military style action on global warming.
He can run his troops down to the beaches to collect sea shells to fight against the Oceans rising
Saw a response on Twitter to Pr. Charlie — “I remember Lexington & Concord. Bring it Charlie!”
Let's go Charlie!
😻😻😻
This is deep blue Newsweek, right? https://www.newsweek.com/how-fauci-fooled-america-opinion-1643839?amp=1
Maybe it’s the beginning of the end for Dr Doom
They may have just discovered the magic formula
My first viral Tweet was about this subject! Rocket Scientists have joined the tribe of Conspiracy Theorists! #Rimshot
Now Kitty, these may be some of the smartest people on the planet when it comes to analysing data and doing the maths - but this is way to complex for them to work out - that's why we have to leave it to the smarter people in the White House.
Love to see united action in the workplace on this!
What's the source for this letter?
Here’s one: https://www.pasadenanow.com/main/jpl-employees-to-protest-federal-covid-19-vaccine-mandate
here is another https://www.coloradoboulevard.net/two-protests-against-vaccine-mandate-on-nov-1/
Hell Yeah!
It’s not too late to take a stand for our children!
https://standforhealthfreedom.com/action/tell-the-cdc-no/
Done. I also emailed every member (except one w/no email address) last Friday.
Haha. The traffic for that corner consists of about 50 non-JPL cars and a few dozen La Cañada High School track team members a day.
So? Do you think the location of their protest reflects negatively on the scientists' principles or veracity? Where do YOU think they should protest? And why are you laughing at people who are exercising their rights?
It reflects negatively on their willingness to do what is necessary to gain freedom. Cosplaying civil rights advocate on a driveway adjacent to a marsh frequented by literally no one is not revolution.
So the better alternative would be…?
That's contextual on where you are. In LA and other places, you leave. It's too late, you're already an unperson and should be grateful it's possible to get out at all. If your job is important, great - sabotage it on your way out. A single tech could render QA a nightmare on everything JPL is working on in a few hours.
Courage! Courage! Defy the media censorship.
Dear Ph.D. types commenting below. This isn’t about a virus. This is a depopulation event. As Gore Vidal once said “I’m a conspiracy analyst” and this conspiracy isn’t a theory. I’m a physician. I’ll never agree to be vaccinated again with anything that Big Pharma produces. They’ve demonstrated that they are corrupt and dangerous.
Write in to the CDC please! https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/lets-go-call-to-action-part-2-cdc
Yesssssss!
Wow. Yes. Amen. How many people participated?
Is this real? Makes me happy.
It’s real. I was at the protest.
really? That's wonderful. I wish I could have been there. I'm a Fed, but nobody around me is protesting. (VT.) Do you work for JPL? I visited the labs there for a few days awhile back. It seemed like such an interesting place to work.
I do work at JPL. (Well at least for another month.) It was my dream job after many years in aerospace. It is a place with a lot of energy, constant visitors. Most everyone has been working from home since last March, though. I know that all the NASA centers have groups fighting the mandate, and are coordinating efforts. We need bigger numbers. I am pleased to report that some vaccinated employees are standing with us fighting the mandate.
Oh, lucky you! I know there are lots of Feds who would protest. Our union let slip that 22% of our agency isn't vaxxed. These mandates are barbaric and nonsensical. We've been operating on maximum telework since last March -- and there are no plans to return to an office anyway. (BTW, I hate telework.) Who am I going to infect at home? And if they cared about my health so much, they would have paid for me to get a proper home office and a radon test for the house. I'll be requesting a religious accommodation, but...who knows what they'll do.
The UK slightly slower off the mark with mandates but it's obvious which way the wind is blowing. Devolved parliaments in Scotland and Wales (where I live) have already implemented vax pass for events & some hospitality, Northern Ireland in the pipeline, can't be long before England joins in & probably starts stricter vax-only measures.
Anyway, my point is - and I made it on twitter at least 6 months ago - is that the USA is the key player in our global struggle against totalitarianism & over the pond we're praying for strength & resolve in that indomitable US spirit of freedom to tip the balance and ignite a global fightback.
Hold the Line.
That's good to hear! Hold the Line!
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-pfizer-covid-kids-pharma/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=44b8eb7d-34f7-4057-987d-f00284f10b8f
Tomorrow Sen. Johnson presents a panel discussion with scientist and people injured by vaccines, or who lost family members to it. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/nov-2-sen-ron-johnson-cdh-covid-vaccine-injuries-federal-mandates/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=44b8eb7d-34f7-4057-987d-f00284f10b8f
Thanks for sharing
If the vaccines were to be administered on the International Space Station, everyone would be positive by day 7, even the folks hanging out from the ship in space suit. That's how safe and effective these vaccines are.
I meant HIV positive of course.
Excellent!!! Copying!!
How about traditional, inactivated virus vaccines? there are 4 or 5 of them in various stage of testing and use around the world. the majority of them are produced by China. funny thing, that, no? Covaxin, and Coronavac, e.g. and these kinds of vaccines are the only ones in use in China. funny thing about that, no?
wouldn't it be nice to have treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin that are safe. but oh, wait ... their existence would invalidate the conditions of the Emergency Use Authorisations of the 3 US-used "vaccines".
Much love from Canada to New Zealand! I happen to own 2 Cairn Terriers!
The CDC and Fauci are now just trying to force vaccinate everyone to get rid of the control group. They know they have placed the Mother of All Lemons on the market with these vaccines. They're attempting a cover-up. They've been doing the same thing with the childhood vaccination program. You can read about it here:
"Fauci's Glaring Cohort Problem and Why He Needs Your Kid Vaxxed"
https://darbyshaw.substack.com/p/faucis-glaring-cohort-problem
Damn, I missed it. I just now read the post, and the protest ended 45 minutes ago. I live close to JPL.
Guess you have to get up early to take advantage of a bad cattitude.
Appreciate the bad cattitude and comments! Same mandate to employees at the company I work for (large software company) and to my brother in law's company (large wireless carrier). Both read about the same as the JPL mandate so likely a final demand with specifics by the US mash potato brain administration to company's that contract with the US federal government.
Full vax proof on or before December 8 with second shot by November 24. No testing option. Medical and religious exemptions may be submitted for review.
I have multiple benign brain/head tumors with one of them being treated by gamma knife as it was destroying my facial nerve. One other on my optic nerve impacting my vision. I called neurology at the hospital that did the gamma knife and brought up a concern about my propensity for benign tumors (also had thyroid removed due to nodules) and known adverse reactions from the vax regarding blood clots and cysts (?). I got as far as the nurse who responded: we recommend that all our patients get vaccinated. Based on that response, I'd say it's unlikely a medical exemption will be an option for me. Although, I've not gone through the religious questionnaire there appears to be one question that will catch a significant number of us: have you ever received a vaccine in the past.
Will do!
I was very excited to see this. But I hate to report that this is not very helpful: I asked my close relative (don't want to say who) about this and they said that this is less than .5% of the workforce.
I forget to mention that they work at JPL!
Can you kindly supply a source for the JPL letter? I'd like to repost. Thank you.
Didn't know the MAGA cult had infiltrated NASA.
Gato, can you analyze the Project Salus study? Looks to be right up your meawlley.
https://www.scribd.com/document/531564267/US-DoD-Project-Salus-Humetrix-VE-Study-2021-09-28a
Thank you to the leaker and thank you to the sharer. This is inspiring!