Yep. Biomedical data scientist here (who peer reviews a couple dozen medical papers a year) and I couldn't have said it better myself. This is why PhD is the most vaccine-hesitant educational level. We can read the studies and know what a crock the current mandates are. And clearly I am not the only one who will be leaving California over this.
The best part is that these folks are immune from the “follow the science” mantra. At this point the real conversation is revolves around statistics and data science, and I don’t think anyone in the FDA, CDC, or NIH can hold a candle to their analytic skills.
I’ve worked 30 years in clinical research and I read the FDA submission for all the products as they became available. My eyes popped out of my head at the adverse event sections. Every trial I ever ran would have been stopped cold by the DSMB ( data safety monitoring board) and certainly would not have been submitted to the FDA let alone approved. I immediately began contacting every family member and every friend of mine in healthcare to tell them to run for their life, literally, from that shot. I have made it a mission to save as many young people as possible. I used my research and writing skills to become an expert at exemption requests and help them navigate. This is pure evil.
Excellent defense of responsible citizenship and medical rights for humans to act in "self-determination". As an employee at NASA HQ and GSFC (ESTO), I appreciate our meetings at JPL. Thank you for articulating a class-action government FTE protest, the merit-based evidence, and validity of this perspective, such that ethical alignment has been violated by NIH and should be considered in our US Supreme court.
Wow ! at least some scientists speak up! There is an article in Newsweek about Fauci, where a couple of scientists waylay the whole handling of the virus. Really good.
I'm no PhD, nor am I mathematically inclined. I do, however, know horseshit when I see it.
Nevertheless, I appreciate it when others take the time to examine, dissect it and clarify it's contents. It's a dirty job for which I am truly thankful.
My nephew, who works for Dunn Construction, was informed that he had to get the vaccine by 11/9 because he’s working on a government contract and they require all sub-contractors be stuck. My nephew has had the CCP. Virus and still has antibodies. The science of vaccines is just pure BS.
Even if you just have a modicum of scientific training you can easily see in the data that there are problems with the vaccines. And, yeah, Rocket Scientist can do the math.
Asking for mercy, basically. According to Canadian Constitution, no religious or any other exception is required for anyone to decline any vaccine, or any other medical treatment for that matter. A no is a no. Not that Canadian Constitution is garnering any respect at the moment. But lawsuits are building up steam fast. In a year or two we’ll have a ruling, by the Supreme Court of Canada, once again LOL. Will be too late for many a folk losing their jobs today.
Fuckbook (or is it Meata) just put me in 7 day jail for sharing El Gato’s Marek’s post as it goes against community standards. I guess the standard is bury your head in the sand.
well leftists are against anti vaxxers, unless it is family. I am willing to bet there are plenty of leftists that have refused the vaxx for their own reasons.
Funny...
My niece and her new husband did not vaxx. They are raging liberals. My brother, her father, is a flaming liberal. He got a vaxx of course like a good comrad.
To them, the kids are not anti vaxxers though. My brother said, no they are just not getting the vaxx in case they want kids (? sounds like anti-vaxx to me)
If we've learned anything during this scam, we've learned that TPTB (GloboCap, etc.) could not care less about the damage the mandates create. If TPTB, or their politician puppets, cared about any of the carnage they are creating, they would back down on the mandates. The fact that they don't tells us all we need to know about the horrible damage they are causing, all in the name of profit and totalitarian control. Sad times.
One of the problems for Biden and the Democrats who are following him is that some groups of people, including these rocket scientists, are realizing that they have quite a bit of leverage. If this winds up being a raw power struggle and lots of people walk off the job, well, do you really trust the politicians to figure out how to keep things going without the essential workers?
Now Kitty, these may be some of the smartest people on the planet when it comes to analysing data and doing the maths - but this is way to complex for them to work out - that's why we have to leave it to the smarter people in the White House.
Dear Ph.D. types commenting below. This isn’t about a virus. This is a depopulation event. As Gore Vidal once said “I’m a conspiracy analyst” and this conspiracy isn’t a theory. I’m a physician. I’ll never agree to be vaccinated again with anything that Big Pharma produces. They’ve demonstrated that they are corrupt and dangerous.
If the vaccines were to be administered on the International Space Station, everyone would be positive by day 7, even the folks hanging out from the ship in space suit. That's how safe and effective these vaccines are.
How about traditional, inactivated virus vaccines? there are 4 or 5 of them in various stage of testing and use around the world. the majority of them are produced by China. funny thing, that, no? Covaxin, and Coronavac, e.g. and these kinds of vaccines are the only ones in use in China. funny thing about that, no?
wouldn't it be nice to have treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin that are safe. but oh, wait ... their existence would invalidate the conditions of the Emergency Use Authorisations of the 3 US-used "vaccines".
The CDC and Fauci are now just trying to force vaccinate everyone to get rid of the control group. They know they have placed the Mother of All Lemons on the market with these vaccines. They're attempting a cover-up. They've been doing the same thing with the childhood vaccination program. You can read about it here:
"Fauci's Glaring Cohort Problem and Why He Needs Your Kid Vaxxed"
Appreciate the bad cattitude and comments! Same mandate to employees at the company I work for (large software company) and to my brother in law's company (large wireless carrier). Both read about the same as the JPL mandate so likely a final demand with specifics by the US mash potato brain administration to company's that contract with the US federal government.
Full vax proof on or before December 8 with second shot by November 24. No testing option. Medical and religious exemptions may be submitted for review.
I have multiple benign brain/head tumors with one of them being treated by gamma knife as it was destroying my facial nerve. One other on my optic nerve impacting my vision. I called neurology at the hospital that did the gamma knife and brought up a concern about my propensity for benign tumors (also had thyroid removed due to nodules) and known adverse reactions from the vax regarding blood clots and cysts (?). I got as far as the nurse who responded: we recommend that all our patients get vaccinated. Based on that response, I'd say it's unlikely a medical exemption will be an option for me. Although, I've not gone through the religious questionnaire there appears to be one question that will catch a significant number of us: have you ever received a vaccine in the past.
I was very excited to see this. But I hate to report that this is not very helpful: I asked my close relative (don't want to say who) about this and they said that this is less than .5% of the workforce.
Yep. Biomedical data scientist here (who peer reviews a couple dozen medical papers a year) and I couldn't have said it better myself. This is why PhD is the most vaccine-hesitant educational level. We can read the studies and know what a crock the current mandates are. And clearly I am not the only one who will be leaving California over this.
How about JPL employees demand their employer to fuck off and institute NO MANDATE WHATSOEVER?
The best part is that these folks are immune from the “follow the science” mantra. At this point the real conversation is revolves around statistics and data science, and I don’t think anyone in the FDA, CDC, or NIH can hold a candle to their analytic skills.
I’ve worked 30 years in clinical research and I read the FDA submission for all the products as they became available. My eyes popped out of my head at the adverse event sections. Every trial I ever ran would have been stopped cold by the DSMB ( data safety monitoring board) and certainly would not have been submitted to the FDA let alone approved. I immediately began contacting every family member and every friend of mine in healthcare to tell them to run for their life, literally, from that shot. I have made it a mission to save as many young people as possible. I used my research and writing skills to become an expert at exemption requests and help them navigate. This is pure evil.
Fauci for jail 2022
Pfft yeah they may be scientists and all "space smart" and stuff but no one is smarter than Don Lemon and CNN!
We really do need a sarcasm font...
Excellent defense of responsible citizenship and medical rights for humans to act in "self-determination". As an employee at NASA HQ and GSFC (ESTO), I appreciate our meetings at JPL. Thank you for articulating a class-action government FTE protest, the merit-based evidence, and validity of this perspective, such that ethical alignment has been violated by NIH and should be considered in our US Supreme court.
Obviously JPL don't have the same grasp of science as Joe Biden & Bill DeBlasio etc
Wow ! at least some scientists speak up! There is an article in Newsweek about Fauci, where a couple of scientists waylay the whole handling of the virus. Really good.
I'm no PhD, nor am I mathematically inclined. I do, however, know horseshit when I see it.
Nevertheless, I appreciate it when others take the time to examine, dissect it and clarify it's contents. It's a dirty job for which I am truly thankful.
My nephew, who works for Dunn Construction, was informed that he had to get the vaccine by 11/9 because he’s working on a government contract and they require all sub-contractors be stuck. My nephew has had the CCP. Virus and still has antibodies. The science of vaccines is just pure BS.
Even if you just have a modicum of scientific training you can easily see in the data that there are problems with the vaccines. And, yeah, Rocket Scientist can do the math.
By the way, JPL is run for NASA by CalTech. So yeah, a little bit of science knowledge over there.
Asking for mercy, basically. According to Canadian Constitution, no religious or any other exception is required for anyone to decline any vaccine, or any other medical treatment for that matter. A no is a no. Not that Canadian Constitution is garnering any respect at the moment. But lawsuits are building up steam fast. In a year or two we’ll have a ruling, by the Supreme Court of Canada, once again LOL. Will be too late for many a folk losing their jobs today.
Fuckbook (or is it Meata) just put me in 7 day jail for sharing El Gato’s Marek’s post as it goes against community standards. I guess the standard is bury your head in the sand.
Rock on! It doesn't take a rocket scientist … or maybe it does ;-)
well leftists are against anti vaxxers, unless it is family. I am willing to bet there are plenty of leftists that have refused the vaxx for their own reasons.
Funny...
My niece and her new husband did not vaxx. They are raging liberals. My brother, her father, is a flaming liberal. He got a vaxx of course like a good comrad.
To them, the kids are not anti vaxxers though. My brother said, no they are just not getting the vaxx in case they want kids (? sounds like anti-vaxx to me)
This is what brain damage looks like
I trust the rocket scientists LONG before the CDC, FAUCI or any of our GOVT Politicians. ALL HAIL the ROCKET SCIENTISTS!!!!
All you need is to follow the Z protocol.
Stupid rocket scientists! They don't believe in science!
Brandon, you have a problem.
If we've learned anything during this scam, we've learned that TPTB (GloboCap, etc.) could not care less about the damage the mandates create. If TPTB, or their politician puppets, cared about any of the carnage they are creating, they would back down on the mandates. The fact that they don't tells us all we need to know about the horrible damage they are causing, all in the name of profit and totalitarian control. Sad times.
One of the problems for Biden and the Democrats who are following him is that some groups of people, including these rocket scientists, are realizing that they have quite a bit of leverage. If this winds up being a raw power struggle and lots of people walk off the job, well, do you really trust the politicians to figure out how to keep things going without the essential workers?
This is deep blue Newsweek, right? https://www.newsweek.com/how-fauci-fooled-america-opinion-1643839?amp=1
My first viral Tweet was about this subject! Rocket Scientists have joined the tribe of Conspiracy Theorists! #Rimshot
Now Kitty, these may be some of the smartest people on the planet when it comes to analysing data and doing the maths - but this is way to complex for them to work out - that's why we have to leave it to the smarter people in the White House.
Love to see united action in the workplace on this!
What's the source for this letter?
Hell Yeah!
It’s not too late to take a stand for our children!
https://standforhealthfreedom.com/action/tell-the-cdc-no/
Haha. The traffic for that corner consists of about 50 non-JPL cars and a few dozen La Cañada High School track team members a day.
Courage! Courage! Defy the media censorship.
Dear Ph.D. types commenting below. This isn’t about a virus. This is a depopulation event. As Gore Vidal once said “I’m a conspiracy analyst” and this conspiracy isn’t a theory. I’m a physician. I’ll never agree to be vaccinated again with anything that Big Pharma produces. They’ve demonstrated that they are corrupt and dangerous.
Write in to the CDC please! https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/lets-go-call-to-action-part-2-cdc
Yesssssss!
Wow. Yes. Amen. How many people participated?
Is this real? Makes me happy.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-pfizer-covid-kids-pharma/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=44b8eb7d-34f7-4057-987d-f00284f10b8f
If the vaccines were to be administered on the International Space Station, everyone would be positive by day 7, even the folks hanging out from the ship in space suit. That's how safe and effective these vaccines are.
I meant HIV positive of course.
Excellent!!! Copying!!
How about traditional, inactivated virus vaccines? there are 4 or 5 of them in various stage of testing and use around the world. the majority of them are produced by China. funny thing, that, no? Covaxin, and Coronavac, e.g. and these kinds of vaccines are the only ones in use in China. funny thing about that, no?
wouldn't it be nice to have treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin that are safe. but oh, wait ... their existence would invalidate the conditions of the Emergency Use Authorisations of the 3 US-used "vaccines".
Much love from Canada to New Zealand! I happen to own 2 Cairn Terriers!
The CDC and Fauci are now just trying to force vaccinate everyone to get rid of the control group. They know they have placed the Mother of All Lemons on the market with these vaccines. They're attempting a cover-up. They've been doing the same thing with the childhood vaccination program. You can read about it here:
"Fauci's Glaring Cohort Problem and Why He Needs Your Kid Vaxxed"
https://darbyshaw.substack.com/p/faucis-glaring-cohort-problem
Damn, I missed it. I just now read the post, and the protest ended 45 minutes ago. I live close to JPL.
Guess you have to get up early to take advantage of a bad cattitude.
Appreciate the bad cattitude and comments! Same mandate to employees at the company I work for (large software company) and to my brother in law's company (large wireless carrier). Both read about the same as the JPL mandate so likely a final demand with specifics by the US mash potato brain administration to company's that contract with the US federal government.
Full vax proof on or before December 8 with second shot by November 24. No testing option. Medical and religious exemptions may be submitted for review.
I have multiple benign brain/head tumors with one of them being treated by gamma knife as it was destroying my facial nerve. One other on my optic nerve impacting my vision. I called neurology at the hospital that did the gamma knife and brought up a concern about my propensity for benign tumors (also had thyroid removed due to nodules) and known adverse reactions from the vax regarding blood clots and cysts (?). I got as far as the nurse who responded: we recommend that all our patients get vaccinated. Based on that response, I'd say it's unlikely a medical exemption will be an option for me. Although, I've not gone through the religious questionnaire there appears to be one question that will catch a significant number of us: have you ever received a vaccine in the past.
Will do!
I was very excited to see this. But I hate to report that this is not very helpful: I asked my close relative (don't want to say who) about this and they said that this is less than .5% of the workforce.
Can you kindly supply a source for the JPL letter? I'd like to repost. Thank you.
Didn't know the MAGA cult had infiltrated NASA.
Gato, can you analyze the Project Salus study? Looks to be right up your meawlley.
https://www.scribd.com/document/531564267/US-DoD-Project-Salus-Humetrix-VE-Study-2021-09-28a