Okay, this is all true. However, biological sex is not exactly the same as gender. Biological sex is fixed. It cannot be altered. You have defined it exactly correctly. However, gender roles can vary based on time and place. There have always been some people who don't fit the traditional gender roles of their societies, biological sex n…
Okay, this is all true. However, biological sex is not exactly the same as gender. Biological sex is fixed. It cannot be altered. You have defined it exactly correctly. However, gender roles can vary based on time and place. There have always been some people who don't fit the traditional gender roles of their societies, biological sex notwithstanding. For example, I think things like being more social or domestic are thought of as feminine characteristics, but they are more cultural than biogical.
i mean, sure. when i was growing up, we had phrases like "tomboy" for girls who "liked boy stuff." i was friends with some. they were great. but everyone, including them knew they were girls. i'm not sure how this whole "people are different and like different things" got turned into some sort of fight about biological sex. it feels like a contrived and needless conflict.
"feels like a contrived and needless conflict" may not be a sufficiently powerful observation. Perhaps "IS an insane contrived and needless conflict" might more aptly describe the current madness.
And terms like "sissy" or "fairy" for boys who liked girl stuff. The issue has never been about chromosomal or gonadal sex. The question is about brain wiring, or neurological sex/gender. Are masculine and feminine personalities innate in the brains we are born with, or are they cultural constructs that are arbitrarily brainwashed into children to get their behavior to match the gender "roles" demanded by their society?
The neo-Marxist side generally abhors the idea that some classes of people are mentally wired differently than other classes, because their power hinges on the belief that they can create Utopia by conditioning and manipulating people, and innate mentalities refutes the faith in blank-slate humanity that that belief depends upon.
At the same time, the neo-Marxists are now largely allied with, if not coopted by, LGBT+ activists. Homosexuality and transgender both imply abnormal brain-wiring in certain minorities of people. In alliance, the two groups are fundamentally conflicted here, with opposing assumptions, and they mostly try to avoid the issue to keep on good terms with each other.
The simplest and most biologically plausible explanation is that the would-be controllers on the neo-Marxist side are completely wrong, and that people are born with innate gender proclivities, whether masculine, feminine, or intermediate. The vast majority of the time, male sex organs predict a masculine personality and female organs predict a feminine personality. But that masculine or feminine personality resides in the brain, not the chromosomes or the sex organs, and sometimes the developmental process goes awry and a male body nevertheless produces a partly feminine wiring of the brain, or a female body produces a partly masculine wiring. This is a birth defect, and it happens to a minority of people.
What we do with such people is a political question that deserves to be discussed honestly with the aim of providing fair and humane options both for these people, and for the great majority of people who are normal.
Yes! There is an element of social contagion that no one is allowed to talk about and people in power seem to be encouraging it. That makes me suspicious (and also why my husband thinks it is about transhumanism). Young people transitioning today are much different than those who transitioned in the 1990s, who actually wanted to live as the other gender.
You are falling for their propaganda. They’ve invented a term, gender, made us all respond to it in a certain way, then they have moved the Overton Window another foot or so. There is sex. Gender is meaningless. We all recognize many people act differently than one would expect. That isn’t a different gender. It is a different action.
Okay, this is all true. However, biological sex is not exactly the same as gender. Biological sex is fixed. It cannot be altered. You have defined it exactly correctly. However, gender roles can vary based on time and place. There have always been some people who don't fit the traditional gender roles of their societies, biological sex notwithstanding. For example, I think things like being more social or domestic are thought of as feminine characteristics, but they are more cultural than biogical.
i mean, sure. when i was growing up, we had phrases like "tomboy" for girls who "liked boy stuff." i was friends with some. they were great. but everyone, including them knew they were girls. i'm not sure how this whole "people are different and like different things" got turned into some sort of fight about biological sex. it feels like a contrived and needless conflict.
Agreed. My husband thinks it's a push toward transhumanism.
I can't even imagine no longer feeling the skin on skin touch with another, the warmth, the smell, the texture, the vibration, the moisture...
uh. I'd better stop....
"feels like a contrived and needless conflict" may not be a sufficiently powerful observation. Perhaps "IS an insane contrived and needless conflict" might more aptly describe the current madness.
And terms like "sissy" or "fairy" for boys who liked girl stuff. The issue has never been about chromosomal or gonadal sex. The question is about brain wiring, or neurological sex/gender. Are masculine and feminine personalities innate in the brains we are born with, or are they cultural constructs that are arbitrarily brainwashed into children to get their behavior to match the gender "roles" demanded by their society?
The neo-Marxist side generally abhors the idea that some classes of people are mentally wired differently than other classes, because their power hinges on the belief that they can create Utopia by conditioning and manipulating people, and innate mentalities refutes the faith in blank-slate humanity that that belief depends upon.
At the same time, the neo-Marxists are now largely allied with, if not coopted by, LGBT+ activists. Homosexuality and transgender both imply abnormal brain-wiring in certain minorities of people. In alliance, the two groups are fundamentally conflicted here, with opposing assumptions, and they mostly try to avoid the issue to keep on good terms with each other.
The simplest and most biologically plausible explanation is that the would-be controllers on the neo-Marxist side are completely wrong, and that people are born with innate gender proclivities, whether masculine, feminine, or intermediate. The vast majority of the time, male sex organs predict a masculine personality and female organs predict a feminine personality. But that masculine or feminine personality resides in the brain, not the chromosomes or the sex organs, and sometimes the developmental process goes awry and a male body nevertheless produces a partly feminine wiring of the brain, or a female body produces a partly masculine wiring. This is a birth defect, and it happens to a minority of people.
What we do with such people is a political question that deserves to be discussed honestly with the aim of providing fair and humane options both for these people, and for the great majority of people who are normal.
I have friends who live in that fluid area and it can be beautiful if it's real.
So many now are not that. That's why they are angry
Yes! There is an element of social contagion that no one is allowed to talk about and people in power seem to be encouraging it. That makes me suspicious (and also why my husband thinks it is about transhumanism). Young people transitioning today are much different than those who transitioned in the 1990s, who actually wanted to live as the other gender.
You are falling for their propaganda. They’ve invented a term, gender, made us all respond to it in a certain way, then they have moved the Overton Window another foot or so. There is sex. Gender is meaningless. We all recognize many people act differently than one would expect. That isn’t a different gender. It is a different action.