Huh? I'm confused also. Here is a woman who says she's not a man but that's supposed to be woke? I don't think she was confused about what gender SHE was ...
The key is in the Twitter handle, She-Hulk Lover...that means this person is still under the delusion that fans hate She Hulk, Rings of Power etc because they are sexists who hate strong women and not because the people writing these garbage shows couldn’t write their way out of kindergarten story time. According to this sad and delusional individual LOTR would be considered woke because of the strong female characters. Never mind the fact that prior to this battle Eowyn was performing all the typical female gender roles expected of a noble woman and in the books afterwards she returns to the stereotypical gender roles of a noble woman. The poster fails to realize that Eowyn is beloved because she faces adversity and hardship with courage and grace and she builds up those around her which is what ultimately leads to her being in a position to kill the Witch King. Meanwhile She Hulk is selfish, boorish and tears down all the characters around her in a vain attempt to make herself look special.
Stop expecting nuance and understanding of actual motives from "sad and delusional individuals" trying to score cheap points on Twitter. (You had me at, "sad and delusional"!)
Absolutely. I guess he thinks “right wingers” hate Aliens too, right? Lol. The strong woman who rises up in a time of need to defend her family and tribe is an ancient archetype. It’s emotionally powerful because it’s against type.
Though they claim to support feminism, leftists are terrified by and HATE strong women. Just look at the vilification of Candice Owens, Melania and Ivanka Trump, ALL the conservative women in Congress, etc, etc, ad nauseam. It definitely underlies the fanatic, more like rabid, support of men pretending to be women. Leftists are evil, dangerous, mentally ill people and need to be treated as such.
There is so much self-own here. First of all, this is Tolkien canon, not some Hollywood creation, and the Shieldmaiden of Rohan is on a true hero's journey and not some forced 110-pound-woman-fights-70-bad-guys-and-wins pabulum. She feels trapped by her role in the monarchy, marches to her death in a desperate act of unrequited love, and avenges her father, the king, in battle. And then *she gets married to a nobleman from Gondor*. No Tolkien fan has ever complained about her character; Tolkien was exploring every archetype in Western Christendom.
??? Wha? How is that “woke?” Woke would be an *actual man *saying that he’s “not a man” and the Nazgûl affirming it. Does that guy think that the “right wing” has a problem with actual women soldiers admitting they are actual women and defeating Evil? More proof that the left doesn’t even know what they’re talking about and they sure as hell can’t meme.
Left-wing people don’t know how stupid they are. Probably why they can’t meme and don’t ‘get’ memes either. But they still think they are smarter than the rest.
This isn't original to me, but I can't find the author. Searching for it gives me lots of "10 ways to know the Dead are listening to you" articles, and one guy selling Sudoku puzzles with pithy titles like this, so I don't think it is original with him, either. Here's his version:
When You're Dead You Don't Know You're Dead. It's Only Difficult For Others. It's The Same Way When You're Stupid: 316 Sudoku Brain Puzzles Game ... 22.86 Cm | 4 Puzzles Per Page | Funny Great Paperback – May 30, 2020
By logical extension: any of the Rohirrim could have slain the Nazgul simply by "identifying" as a woman. Or indeed, as anything other than a man. And just for that moment, since gender can be "fluid".
The emasculated, pony-tailed troll who posted that really personifies the level of intellect and emotional maturity which define the woke neo-Marxist Left. A Hobbit packs more of a punch.
adult: having reached reproductive age/physical/sexual maturity
human: homo sapiens
female: an animal whose reproductive organs are centered around producing large gametes (eggs).
people like to try to muddy this idea with corner cases like "so if your reproductive features are absent/removed/failed to develop, you are not a woman?" but this seems an invalid line of objection. humans have 10 fingers. if you have 9, you're still human, you're just a damaged or incomplete one. gender is no different.
if one castrates a bull, no one calls it a cow.
you develop testes or ovaries depending on whether you have a Y chromosome. (SRY, sex determining region of Y chromosome)
Sex-determining region Y protein (SRY), or testis-determining factor (TDF), is a DNA-binding protein (also known as gene-regulatory protein/transcription factor) encoded by the SRY gene that is responsible for the initiation of male sex determination in therian mammals (placental mammals and marsupials).[5] SRY is an intronless sex-determining gene on the Y chromosome.[6] mutations in this gene lead to a range of disorders of sex development with varying effects on an individual's phenotype and genotype.
I don't face it personally, no. But then I would never walk into such a viper's nest in the first place.
Shouting down their opponents has been a tried and true tactic of the neo-Marxists ever since that pseudo-ideology first emerged. They know their positions cannot withstand even the slightest of scrutiny and therefore never engage in rational debate. Instead they gang up on the "other" and overwhelm them not with logic but with primal screams. Then they declare victory, "Our ideas have won the day!"
I’m an actual woman and I’m puzzled why anyone would want to be one, lol. If these guys actually succeeded at “being women” then everyone would promptly start to ignore them. Lol.
For the majority of them, it's not that they "want" to be female exactly, but that they derive sexual excitement by cosplaying it. Autogynephilia is the psychological term for it.
Okay, this is all true. However, biological sex is not exactly the same as gender. Biological sex is fixed. It cannot be altered. You have defined it exactly correctly. However, gender roles can vary based on time and place. There have always been some people who don't fit the traditional gender roles of their societies, biological sex notwithstanding. For example, I think things like being more social or domestic are thought of as feminine characteristics, but they are more cultural than biogical.
i mean, sure. when i was growing up, we had phrases like "tomboy" for girls who "liked boy stuff." i was friends with some. they were great. but everyone, including them knew they were girls. i'm not sure how this whole "people are different and like different things" got turned into some sort of fight about biological sex. it feels like a contrived and needless conflict.
"feels like a contrived and needless conflict" may not be a sufficiently powerful observation. Perhaps "IS an insane contrived and needless conflict" might more aptly describe the current madness.
And terms like "sissy" or "fairy" for boys who liked girl stuff. The issue has never been about chromosomal or gonadal sex. The question is about brain wiring, or neurological sex/gender. Are masculine and feminine personalities innate in the brains we are born with, or are they cultural constructs that are arbitrarily brainwashed into children to get their behavior to match the gender "roles" demanded by their society?
The neo-Marxist side generally abhors the idea that some classes of people are mentally wired differently than other classes, because their power hinges on the belief that they can create Utopia by conditioning and manipulating people, and innate mentalities refutes the faith in blank-slate humanity that that belief depends upon.
At the same time, the neo-Marxists are now largely allied with, if not coopted by, LGBT+ activists. Homosexuality and transgender both imply abnormal brain-wiring in certain minorities of people. In alliance, the two groups are fundamentally conflicted here, with opposing assumptions, and they mostly try to avoid the issue to keep on good terms with each other.
The simplest and most biologically plausible explanation is that the would-be controllers on the neo-Marxist side are completely wrong, and that people are born with innate gender proclivities, whether masculine, feminine, or intermediate. The vast majority of the time, male sex organs predict a masculine personality and female organs predict a feminine personality. But that masculine or feminine personality resides in the brain, not the chromosomes or the sex organs, and sometimes the developmental process goes awry and a male body nevertheless produces a partly feminine wiring of the brain, or a female body produces a partly masculine wiring. This is a birth defect, and it happens to a minority of people.
What we do with such people is a political question that deserves to be discussed honestly with the aim of providing fair and humane options both for these people, and for the great majority of people who are normal.
Yes! There is an element of social contagion that no one is allowed to talk about and people in power seem to be encouraging it. That makes me suspicious (and also why my husband thinks it is about transhumanism). Young people transitioning today are much different than those who transitioned in the 1990s, who actually wanted to live as the other gender.
You are falling for their propaganda. They’ve invented a term, gender, made us all respond to it in a certain way, then they have moved the Overton Window another foot or so. There is sex. Gender is meaningless. We all recognize many people act differently than one would expect. That isn’t a different gender. It is a different action.
Me. I am a woman. Born with XX not XY. Never felt like a girl, or a women, just like a "being," until post puberty when suddenly boys, instead of being relatively annoying, magically became somehow appealing, lol.
After falling in love, (with a member of the XY tribe, of course,) and enjoying all the pleasures, and the heartbreaks that that experience entails, I eventually conceived and delivered a gorgeous baby girl, who I nursed, looked after, and raised to become a woman herself.
It is through the play of biology, genetics, our endocrine systems and all the hormones and brain differences that make each one of us "male" or "female."
And it is through our lived experiences that we come to know the meaning of our "sex."
I, and other women, have, on average, a larger connection between the right and left hemispheres of my brain, higher intuition, sensitivity, and conscientiousness. Took me a while but I came to highly appreciate the gifts of being female. ; )))
Males have larger muscles, greater strength, bigger hearts, lungs, livers, and higher competiveity and aggression. We need those characteristics also, in society.
We females have an entire infrastructure that males lack. (Can create new humans inside our bodies and feed them afterwards too!)
The drumbeat of either testosterone, testosterone, testosterone or the symphony that is estrogen, progesterone, oxytocin, etc., play very different tunes.
We as a species would be smart to figure this one out and get to know our own sex, and the other one, a whole lot better! That plus understanding the Dark Triad types might end a lot of our problems, perhaps even our endless wars and the corruption in the Fascistic Government we currently are facing....
They are. However I was more determined to read the nuisances in the books after the movies. I did enjoy the movies. They were stunning. I also thought the acting was top notch.
IMO, some things wouldn't work with the medium. Like the 17 years that pass between Bilbo's party and when Frodo finally leaves the Shire. And the first book spends a ton of time in the old forest (with the evil trees, Tom Bombadil, the Barrow weights, etc.). I think the first movie would have been eight hours long.
IMO, there is nothing wrong with turning one book into several movies. In retrospect, they could have extended the series and made billions more dollars.
Are you kidding? I adore the books but their structure is bizarre and and would never have worked in the medium of film. I have issues with a few of the creative and casting choices that were made, but overall it’s hard to imagine a more successful adaptation.
That said, the Hobbit movies actually are an unmitigated disaster.
LOTR also features about the most positive masculinity you’re likely to find in one place, as well as themes of many races overcoming their differences to resist globalist oppressors bent on subjecting them all to “equitable” ugliness and slavery.
For a time I thought the villains of LOTR were too simplistic. Now I realize such people actually exist in the world. They’re just not cool enough to ride pterodactyls.
Huh? I'm confused also. Here is a woman who says she's not a man but that's supposed to be woke? I don't think she was confused about what gender SHE was ...
The key is in the Twitter handle, She-Hulk Lover...that means this person is still under the delusion that fans hate She Hulk, Rings of Power etc because they are sexists who hate strong women and not because the people writing these garbage shows couldn’t write their way out of kindergarten story time. According to this sad and delusional individual LOTR would be considered woke because of the strong female characters. Never mind the fact that prior to this battle Eowyn was performing all the typical female gender roles expected of a noble woman and in the books afterwards she returns to the stereotypical gender roles of a noble woman. The poster fails to realize that Eowyn is beloved because she faces adversity and hardship with courage and grace and she builds up those around her which is what ultimately leads to her being in a position to kill the Witch King. Meanwhile She Hulk is selfish, boorish and tears down all the characters around her in a vain attempt to make herself look special.
Stop expecting nuance and understanding of actual motives from "sad and delusional individuals" trying to score cheap points on Twitter. (You had me at, "sad and delusional"!)
Absolutely. I guess he thinks “right wingers” hate Aliens too, right? Lol. The strong woman who rises up in a time of need to defend her family and tribe is an ancient archetype. It’s emotionally powerful because it’s against type.
Remember Raksha the she-wolf in the Jungle Books that Shere Khan, the man-eating tiger was more afraid of than her mate?
The female of the species is always more dangerous than the male, especially when her young are at stake!
Agreed. This is not new.
Though they claim to support feminism, leftists are terrified by and HATE strong women. Just look at the vilification of Candice Owens, Melania and Ivanka Trump, ALL the conservative women in Congress, etc, etc, ad nauseam. It definitely underlies the fanatic, more like rabid, support of men pretending to be women. Leftists are evil, dangerous, mentally ill people and need to be treated as such.
It never was about supporting women, gender choice, the environment, helping poor people, taxing the rich, a chicken in every pot, etc.
It's about power.
It's always about power.
Eowyn sounds like a blessed Proverbs 31 woman.
Good analysis.
If it was made today, Aragorn would have simply identified as a woman for a couple minutes.
Aragorn and Legolas would have bene gay if it ere written today.
Admittedly, of all the beautiful creatures Legolas gets distracted by in the books, the only humanoid was Prince Imrahil.
Are you telling me Legolas wasn’t gay?
Ouch, I love that fictional character.
There is so much self-own here. First of all, this is Tolkien canon, not some Hollywood creation, and the Shieldmaiden of Rohan is on a true hero's journey and not some forced 110-pound-woman-fights-70-bad-guys-and-wins pabulum. She feels trapped by her role in the monarchy, marches to her death in a desperate act of unrequited love, and avenges her father, the king, in battle. And then *she gets married to a nobleman from Gondor*. No Tolkien fan has ever complained about her character; Tolkien was exploring every archetype in Western Christendom.
Yes!!
Logic is a dish not served at the luncheons of those with agendas to promote.
??? Wha? How is that “woke?” Woke would be an *actual man *saying that he’s “not a man” and the Nazgûl affirming it. Does that guy think that the “right wing” has a problem with actual women soldiers admitting they are actual women and defeating Evil? More proof that the left doesn’t even know what they’re talking about and they sure as hell can’t meme.
I never doubted that had no idea of what they were talking about.
What an irony-impaired dimwit. That "I AM NO MAN" line was one of the most bad-ass lines I have ever heard in a movie. Chick had a pair. Of ovaries.
Left-wing people don’t know how stupid they are. Probably why they can’t meme and don’t ‘get’ memes either. But they still think they are smarter than the rest.
The dead don't realize they are dead. Their loved ones feel it, but they don't.
The same goes for the stupid.
This isn't original to me, but I can't find the author. Searching for it gives me lots of "10 ways to know the Dead are listening to you" articles, and one guy selling Sudoku puzzles with pithy titles like this, so I don't think it is original with him, either. Here's his version:
When You're Dead You Don't Know You're Dead. It's Only Difficult For Others. It's The Same Way When You're Stupid: 316 Sudoku Brain Puzzles Game ... 22.86 Cm | 4 Puzzles Per Page | Funny Great Paperback – May 30, 2020
by James Haier (Author)
That is our strength
By logical extension: any of the Rohirrim could have slain the Nazgul simply by "identifying" as a woman. Or indeed, as anything other than a man. And just for that moment, since gender can be "fluid".
The emasculated, pony-tailed troll who posted that really personifies the level of intellect and emotional maturity which define the woke neo-Marxist Left. A Hobbit packs more of a punch.
Yes, they had more in integrity as well
What is a woman?
an adult human female.
adult: having reached reproductive age/physical/sexual maturity
human: homo sapiens
female: an animal whose reproductive organs are centered around producing large gametes (eggs).
people like to try to muddy this idea with corner cases like "so if your reproductive features are absent/removed/failed to develop, you are not a woman?" but this seems an invalid line of objection. humans have 10 fingers. if you have 9, you're still human, you're just a damaged or incomplete one. gender is no different.
if one castrates a bull, no one calls it a cow.
you develop testes or ovaries depending on whether you have a Y chromosome. (SRY, sex determining region of Y chromosome)
Sex-determining region Y protein (SRY), or testis-determining factor (TDF), is a DNA-binding protein (also known as gene-regulatory protein/transcription factor) encoded by the SRY gene that is responsible for the initiation of male sex determination in therian mammals (placental mammals and marsupials).[5] SRY is an intronless sex-determining gene on the Y chromosome.[6] mutations in this gene lead to a range of disorders of sex development with varying effects on an individual's phenotype and genotype.
Try explaining that to a room full of entitled, triggered undergrads who are shouting you down with chants of "Right-wing conspiracy theory!"
Do you face that? That should never occur
I don't face it personally, no. But then I would never walk into such a viper's nest in the first place.
Shouting down their opponents has been a tried and true tactic of the neo-Marxists ever since that pseudo-ideology first emerged. They know their positions cannot withstand even the slightest of scrutiny and therefore never engage in rational debate. Instead they gang up on the "other" and overwhelm them not with logic but with primal screams. Then they declare victory, "Our ideas have won the day!"
I’m an actual woman and I’m puzzled why anyone would want to be one, lol. If these guys actually succeeded at “being women” then everyone would promptly start to ignore them. Lol.
If they actually succeeded at “being women” they would beg for mercy and go back to calling themselves men.
Thank you for that
For the majority of them, it's not that they "want" to be female exactly, but that they derive sexual excitement by cosplaying it. Autogynephilia is the psychological term for it.
That’s just so creepy. There is a real instinctive disgust at men getting their jollies inappropriately.
I've seen them identifying as "AGP", including Lia Thomas
I can’t understand how they can can even say they feel like a woman. It does not compute.
Until they feel the pain of monthly REAL periods, fake women can piss right off.
You do know about the ones shoving raspberry ice pops into lower orifices so they can have a red period?
they deserve that pain but it's not the same
I am happy to be a woman.
I wasn't always. Glad no one interfered or made me decide. I'm all leather and lace now.
I agree we get ignored, but we're tough enough to overcome that.
Sorry. Did you say something?
Okay, this is all true. However, biological sex is not exactly the same as gender. Biological sex is fixed. It cannot be altered. You have defined it exactly correctly. However, gender roles can vary based on time and place. There have always been some people who don't fit the traditional gender roles of their societies, biological sex notwithstanding. For example, I think things like being more social or domestic are thought of as feminine characteristics, but they are more cultural than biogical.
i mean, sure. when i was growing up, we had phrases like "tomboy" for girls who "liked boy stuff." i was friends with some. they were great. but everyone, including them knew they were girls. i'm not sure how this whole "people are different and like different things" got turned into some sort of fight about biological sex. it feels like a contrived and needless conflict.
Agreed. My husband thinks it's a push toward transhumanism.
It is. Bodies finally gone and the consciousness uploaded into the cloud of hell. Time to follow TheTech.
I can't even imagine no longer feeling the skin on skin touch with another, the warmth, the smell, the texture, the vibration, the moisture...
uh. I'd better stop....
"feels like a contrived and needless conflict" may not be a sufficiently powerful observation. Perhaps "IS an insane contrived and needless conflict" might more aptly describe the current madness.
And terms like "sissy" or "fairy" for boys who liked girl stuff. The issue has never been about chromosomal or gonadal sex. The question is about brain wiring, or neurological sex/gender. Are masculine and feminine personalities innate in the brains we are born with, or are they cultural constructs that are arbitrarily brainwashed into children to get their behavior to match the gender "roles" demanded by their society?
The neo-Marxist side generally abhors the idea that some classes of people are mentally wired differently than other classes, because their power hinges on the belief that they can create Utopia by conditioning and manipulating people, and innate mentalities refutes the faith in blank-slate humanity that that belief depends upon.
At the same time, the neo-Marxists are now largely allied with, if not coopted by, LGBT+ activists. Homosexuality and transgender both imply abnormal brain-wiring in certain minorities of people. In alliance, the two groups are fundamentally conflicted here, with opposing assumptions, and they mostly try to avoid the issue to keep on good terms with each other.
The simplest and most biologically plausible explanation is that the would-be controllers on the neo-Marxist side are completely wrong, and that people are born with innate gender proclivities, whether masculine, feminine, or intermediate. The vast majority of the time, male sex organs predict a masculine personality and female organs predict a feminine personality. But that masculine or feminine personality resides in the brain, not the chromosomes or the sex organs, and sometimes the developmental process goes awry and a male body nevertheless produces a partly feminine wiring of the brain, or a female body produces a partly masculine wiring. This is a birth defect, and it happens to a minority of people.
What we do with such people is a political question that deserves to be discussed honestly with the aim of providing fair and humane options both for these people, and for the great majority of people who are normal.
I have friends who live in that fluid area and it can be beautiful if it's real.
So many now are not that. That's why they are angry
Yes! There is an element of social contagion that no one is allowed to talk about and people in power seem to be encouraging it. That makes me suspicious (and also why my husband thinks it is about transhumanism). Young people transitioning today are much different than those who transitioned in the 1990s, who actually wanted to live as the other gender.
You are falling for their propaganda. They’ve invented a term, gender, made us all respond to it in a certain way, then they have moved the Overton Window another foot or so. There is sex. Gender is meaningless. We all recognize many people act differently than one would expect. That isn’t a different gender. It is a different action.
I think I just learned something new. So monotremes don't do the X and Y chromosome thing for sex determination?
THANK YOU!
esp love the cow line
Exactly...
Me. I am a woman. Born with XX not XY. Never felt like a girl, or a women, just like a "being," until post puberty when suddenly boys, instead of being relatively annoying, magically became somehow appealing, lol.
After falling in love, (with a member of the XY tribe, of course,) and enjoying all the pleasures, and the heartbreaks that that experience entails, I eventually conceived and delivered a gorgeous baby girl, who I nursed, looked after, and raised to become a woman herself.
It is through the play of biology, genetics, our endocrine systems and all the hormones and brain differences that make each one of us "male" or "female."
And it is through our lived experiences that we come to know the meaning of our "sex."
I, and other women, have, on average, a larger connection between the right and left hemispheres of my brain, higher intuition, sensitivity, and conscientiousness. Took me a while but I came to highly appreciate the gifts of being female. ; )))
Males have larger muscles, greater strength, bigger hearts, lungs, livers, and higher competiveity and aggression. We need those characteristics also, in society.
We females have an entire infrastructure that males lack. (Can create new humans inside our bodies and feed them afterwards too!)
The drumbeat of either testosterone, testosterone, testosterone or the symphony that is estrogen, progesterone, oxytocin, etc., play very different tunes.
We as a species would be smart to figure this one out and get to know our own sex, and the other one, a whole lot better! That plus understanding the Dark Triad types might end a lot of our problems, perhaps even our endless wars and the corruption in the Fascistic Government we currently are facing....
Just saying.
My wife said, "You tell 'em Katherine!".
❤️
You'll have to ask a politician.
.... and they will ask a "SUPREME court Judge Nominee"
😂
If you're stuck in LA traffic for hours and can tinkle in a Gatorade bottle, you're male.
If you can't; you're female or have a vanishgingly rare deformity.
I echo Eowyn Gato, "I am no man! And Dark Lord or not, I will smite thee if you come between me and my kin!"
The Dark Lords of our day have smote the entire Formerly Free World, including my Nation, my family, and and my only child, and Gato, I am PISSED.
All those who have lost loved ones to the Covid Coup, lost freedoms, rights, health or their businesses need to take a page out of Eowyn's book.
You never know who exactly it is that will lay the wicked ones low.
; ))
Amen
you are on a wonderful roll
After reading the moniker "She-Hulk Lover" I can't take anything else posted seriously.
When the LOTR movies were first released it was the woketards complaining that Tolkien was racist because everyone was white except the Orcs.
All the movies sucked. The books are 100x better.
They are. However I was more determined to read the nuisances in the books after the movies. I did enjoy the movies. They were stunning. I also thought the acting was top notch.
The movie people should have faithfully followed the book text. No need to change anything.
IMO, some things wouldn't work with the medium. Like the 17 years that pass between Bilbo's party and when Frodo finally leaves the Shire. And the first book spends a ton of time in the old forest (with the evil trees, Tom Bombadil, the Barrow weights, etc.). I think the first movie would have been eight hours long.
IMO, there is nothing wrong with turning one book into several movies. In retrospect, they could have extended the series and made billions more dollars.
Which would have been even better!!
this latest was these Hollywood idiots "improving" a classic
Are you kidding? I adore the books but their structure is bizarre and and would never have worked in the medium of film. I have issues with a few of the creative and casting choices that were made, but overall it’s hard to imagine a more successful adaptation.
That said, the Hobbit movies actually are an unmitigated disaster.
are you talking about the Jackson LotR or the recent woke one?
I never watched the Amazon one. It looked like garbage and better to pretend it doesn’t exist.
I know, right?
Seems a lot of us people did that.
true with 99% of books
LOTR also features about the most positive masculinity you’re likely to find in one place, as well as themes of many races overcoming their differences to resist globalist oppressors bent on subjecting them all to “equitable” ugliness and slavery.
For a time I thought the villains of LOTR were too simplistic. Now I realize such people actually exist in the world. They’re just not cool enough to ride pterodactyls.
hahahaha. perfect
The left can’t meme any more than the Covid shot stops Covid.