we’ve only just started reading the intersectional works of kitty-lee crenspaw in kittengarten, so please excuse me if this is a silly question to which most people already know the answer, but:
wouldn’t all these same people sorting the mancubs by birth race be the same ones that would have literal aneurisms if someone suggested doing this by birth gender?
because i think probably they would.
are maybe some intersections supposed to be more intersectional than others or something?
Forced segregation was bad—like, really really bad—when the wrong people were doing it. But now that the right people are doing it, from pure and selfless motives, it is the awesomest thing ever.
Yes ours had this nonsense for the last few years which we only found out towards the end. Luckily we and her best friends mother were very strongly gender critical so it didn't take hold.
So if a child is half black and half white, the child gets cut in half so each half can attend the appropriate group? What if there are three or more races in the family? Where does one draw (or carve) the line?
Don't despair gatito, despite your CCT (critical cat theory) curriculum, remember the founding ideals restated in the Kittysburg Address: " that all kittens are created equal"
Yo I have been making that type argument for years and it like, short-circuits them. Foxconn suicides anyone? Blink. Blink. Not saying PC's are made any more humanely but then if you go "Hey, let's make our OWN computers and phones RIGHT HERE" they'll admit: "But that's what China is for! Letting toxic runoff into rivers and paying people $2 per day." NIMBYs. We'd have to really RETHINK manufacturing if we wanted to be self-sustaining...problem word there being THINK.
It doesn't count as a human tragedy if nobody gives a rip or it is not flaunted right in front of us. Every time I hear a nike shoe squeak (and they squeak a LOT), you can guess my comment.
It is seriously hard not to buy from China. REALLY hard to sort it on Amazon. Just FYI if the company is all caps and a weird sorting of random letters it is prob China. AND it doesn't seem to bother some people that solar panels are utterly unfriendly to the earth. Making to disposing. Bad.
Off topic. Sorry. Glad to be cranky for something not COVID.
While I "liked" your post, I feel that forced segregated facilities are unequal. Voluntary segregation exists at black colleges and they seem to get a fine education albeit sequestered from a fully integrated nation. This school is forcing this on these students, so very very unequal.
Horrifying that we are seeing this kind of active segregation in our times. Sometimes it just really hits me hard. Am I living in a nightmare? How can this be actually happening?????
(OMG lack of edit feature + my dyslexia = trouble!)
HAHAHAHAHAHA! "African-American and Hispanic students will be combined into one group." I can already hear the cries of INJUSTICE! "How dare you combine two types into ONE GROUP. What are African Americans and Hispanics, poor stepchildren to share the cold attic room?" "HOW will the DEI mission to divide and conquer succeed if you do not actually divide?"
I know you told us to watch out for what we call stupid, el gato, but these fools aren't even paying attention to their own playbook here. It's like a pathetic attempt at a pathetic attempt. Not saying the virtue-signalers won't eat it up, but....
They seem to be going back to the early 20th century version of segregation where there were only two groups: White and colored, ahem I mean people of color.
I wish people could see past color and see the character of a person. Children do, why can't adults? There is crap in every race, creed and color. Just need to separate the wheat from the chaff based on one's character. That speaks loud enough for itself.
This reminds me of when I was in 6th grade, back in the 80's. Our history teacher selected the only black kid in the class to play the part of a slave, while the rest of the class played the part of the white slaveholding society in a class exercise to illustrate how things worked back then. I don't think that kid came to class much after that. This may be better, or not. Hard to tell from this distance.
2. Although I'm not Asian, I'd choose to identify in that group. Just think if other students who want to be fully educated chose to self identify as Asian too...
I have been saying this would be the end result since 2013. I have the scars from Guardianistas to prove it. Because I'm a "conspiracy theorist" apparently.
Of course. And their (white) mayor just accused a white guy who self-defended himself against 4 (white) guys as a white supremacist. I wonder how that gets sorted out in their segregated classrooms? (NB: Kyle Rittenhouse should declare himself to be gay, whether or not he is, and see how that complecates their b.s.story.)
Who would imagine that American elites would take the worst interpretations of communist ideologies and try to implement them. In early USSR one of the best parts was universal access to education for everyone, one could go from peasants' family to working in top military R&D facility with plenty of workers privileges given that person was willing to study hard and apply themselves. There have been bad parts, but this one was exceptionally good. What's happening in America is worse than communism. People are being sorted like cattle. History made a circle and brought us back to slavery with sophisticated technology to support it.
Not only is this racist AF and stupid it is illegal, a blatant violation of the civil rights act and I am sure some New York state laws as well. Lawsuits need to be filed.
I agree with sorting people by race for some social justice programs. It's easier to talk about some things when you're understood. I can relate to this via the difference between talking about my experience being unvaccinated to someone else who's unvaccinated, versus someone who's vaccinated. It's a huge difference. Racial groups sometimes have very different experiences in this country. It's easier to talk about things when you don't have to explain yourself so much, don't have to get push-back on those who disagree with how you've experienced things. It's easier with others who have a shared knowledge base, understand verbal and cognitive shortcuts, and not having to layout a whole history lesson to have your experience understood (like I tend to want to do when talking about my choice to not get vaccinated!). When I read more about history in the United States as an adult, I realized I didn't learn much in school about white European and African American history in this country. I began my early adulthood by not seeing color, but I was not seeing color through ignorance. Then I saw color, including my own white skin and recognizing that I also have a race. Now I both see and don't see color; I see the historical basis for a higher probability of common experiences of different races, while also seeing that we are all human beings. My adult racial education was a wonderful albeit painful learning journey.
Good points. I do prefer, though, to have options besides on the one hand silencing of certain groups (unvaccinated, black, immigrant, homosexual, Muslim, etc), and on the other hand mandatory splitting into affinity groups. We can just make friends with whom we share certain qualities and with whom we differ as well. I like how "in the old days" I had to grow a set and speak up about the things I thought that NO ONE I'd ever met seemed to think or feel. This affinity group thing actually has that wrong too, I think--it coddles people, reduces their capacity to difficult things, reduces their ability to tolerate feeling ALONE and weird AF sometimes. We need to learn when we are in puberty that we can and must tolerate feeling like a mutant. Without the emotional tolerance for that, no hero can exist.
Yeah, I appreciate what you're saying. The way most racial education groups I know of divide people by their racial groups initially, and then come together at some point. I think that's the best way to do it. I think there's a balance between coddling, and providing a "good enough challenge". When people are overly psychologically or emotionally challenged, they go into a defensive/reactive mode or a trauma mode. Neither of these promote connection, growth and learning.
My son was in a famous private school in NYC. They start affinity groups in 1st grade. You get separated by race and sometimes by gender. He was there for 6 years, I could not take anymore the victim mentality and the drama. Schools in NYC spend more time in these subjects than academics. I was the only parent questioning why they were doing that. I think people think they are helping the community and building a better world but for me it is just crazy. They are teaching kids to judge one another and hate. I am from South America and I could never imagine that this country would ever became like this.
Ah, "social justice"! It's waging a battle with "public health" for oxymoron of the year.
Glad my kids don't go to school there. They'd have to cut them into pieces for the affinity groups.
Friendly reminder: sex is ASSIGNED at birth, quite randomly and arbitrarily, so there's really no way I can imagine to segregate people based upon it. How would you even do that?
and so the part of jim crow became (checks notes) the party of jim crow.
huh...
What affinity group do you suppose Ms. Douglas slots into?
Forced segregation was bad—like, really really bad—when the wrong people were doing it. But now that the right people are doing it, from pure and selfless motives, it is the awesomest thing ever.
My children could “identify” into two “affinity groups”
reason 3,726 I’m homeschooling
ALL children should be taken out of these segregated schools. Let the teachers teach themselves
Ha, I object to your misappropriation of the term "teach!"
Yes ours had this nonsense for the last few years which we only found out towards the end. Luckily we and her best friends mother were very strongly gender critical so it didn't take hold.
So if a child is half black and half white, the child gets cut in half so each half can attend the appropriate group? What if there are three or more races in the family? Where does one draw (or carve) the line?
Phoebe - perfect solution! just like Solomon told those two ladies that were fighting over the baby. Cut it in half and you each get part of the kid.
And Obama identified as black for some reason. I thought that whites were the priviledged class.
Congratulation. SJW Solomon would be very proud. ;)
Imagine if that child identifies as Asian or Hispanic. Three parts.
To be fair, the headline explicitly stated that there will be a multiracial category. Not that it's less stupid but it's there.
And WE'RE the racists?
Don't despair gatito, despite your CCT (critical cat theory) curriculum, remember the founding ideals restated in the Kittysburg Address: " that all kittens are created equal"
😂😂😍😍
Oi Vey, here we go again...segregation..thought we fought a Civil War and had a Civil Rights movement to end that absurdity....must be my imagination.
The democrats are still mad about us freeing their slaves.
indeed they are...btw, I love your name..cracks me up every time you post. reminds me of the pet rock i used to have!
It is and you’re the delusional one! 😉😜😍
indeed FL, indeed!
Side note: They all have woke, Apple computers that have been rinsed in Uyghur slave tears. No social justice conscientiousness for mere 2021 slavery.
Yo I have been making that type argument for years and it like, short-circuits them. Foxconn suicides anyone? Blink. Blink. Not saying PC's are made any more humanely but then if you go "Hey, let's make our OWN computers and phones RIGHT HERE" they'll admit: "But that's what China is for! Letting toxic runoff into rivers and paying people $2 per day." NIMBYs. We'd have to really RETHINK manufacturing if we wanted to be self-sustaining...problem word there being THINK.
It doesn't count as a human tragedy if nobody gives a rip or it is not flaunted right in front of us. Every time I hear a nike shoe squeak (and they squeak a LOT), you can guess my comment.
It is seriously hard not to buy from China. REALLY hard to sort it on Amazon. Just FYI if the company is all caps and a weird sorting of random letters it is prob China. AND it doesn't seem to bother some people that solar panels are utterly unfriendly to the earth. Making to disposing. Bad.
Off topic. Sorry. Glad to be cranky for something not COVID.
"Separate educational facilities are inherently unequal."
While I "liked" your post, I feel that forced segregated facilities are unequal. Voluntary segregation exists at black colleges and they seem to get a fine education albeit sequestered from a fully integrated nation. This school is forcing this on these students, so very very unequal.
Yeah, I was just quoting Earl Warren from "Brown vs. The Board of Education Topeka" simple and forceful.
And a great quote it was. I learn something from bad cats every day! lol thanks
Horrifying that we are seeing this kind of active segregation in our times. Sometimes it just really hits me hard. Am I living in a nightmare? How can this be actually happening?????
"The Cognitive Dissonance is strong in those woke ones...."
(OMG lack of edit feature + my dyslexia = trouble!)
HAHAHAHAHAHA! "African-American and Hispanic students will be combined into one group." I can already hear the cries of INJUSTICE! "How dare you combine two types into ONE GROUP. What are African Americans and Hispanics, poor stepchildren to share the cold attic room?" "HOW will the DEI mission to divide and conquer succeed if you do not actually divide?"
I know you told us to watch out for what we call stupid, el gato, but these fools aren't even paying attention to their own playbook here. It's like a pathetic attempt at a pathetic attempt. Not saying the virtue-signalers won't eat it up, but....
Very good…love your POV! 😉😜
They seem to be going back to the early 20th century version of segregation where there were only two groups: White and colored, ahem I mean people of color.
I wish people could see past color and see the character of a person. Children do, why can't adults? There is crap in every race, creed and color. Just need to separate the wheat from the chaff based on one's character. That speaks loud enough for itself.
perhaps students should pick names out of a hat, and what you get is what you get. learn to get along and learn from one another....
LOL too close to real life, right? Makes too much sense! And not sensitive to those who have hat-trauma issues!
The incompetence is everywhere.
MAKE AMERICA RACIST AGAIN!
Silly me, I thought forced segregation was a bad thing.
This reminds me of when I was in 6th grade, back in the 80's. Our history teacher selected the only black kid in the class to play the part of a slave, while the rest of the class played the part of the white slaveholding society in a class exercise to illustrate how things worked back then. I don't think that kid came to class much after that. This may be better, or not. Hard to tell from this distance.
Cringe.
A couple thoughts --
1. Where is the opt out choice?
2. Although I'm not Asian, I'd choose to identify in that group. Just think if other students who want to be fully educated chose to self identify as Asian too...
I have been saying this would be the end result since 2013. I have the scars from Guardianistas to prove it. Because I'm a "conspiracy theorist" apparently.
Oh look, segregation is back. 🤦🏻♀️ I pulled my kids out of NYC public schools. They are a disaster. Crap like this has been building for 15 years.
Of course. And their (white) mayor just accused a white guy who self-defended himself against 4 (white) guys as a white supremacist. I wonder how that gets sorted out in their segregated classrooms? (NB: Kyle Rittenhouse should declare himself to be gay, whether or not he is, and see how that complecates their b.s.story.)
Separate but equal, hm. Where have I heard that?
Yea - that's going to solve them problem of institutional racism, isn't it? (sarc)
Who would imagine that American elites would take the worst interpretations of communist ideologies and try to implement them. In early USSR one of the best parts was universal access to education for everyone, one could go from peasants' family to working in top military R&D facility with plenty of workers privileges given that person was willing to study hard and apply themselves. There have been bad parts, but this one was exceptionally good. What's happening in America is worse than communism. People are being sorted like cattle. History made a circle and brought us back to slavery with sophisticated technology to support it.
More gasoline to fuel the mass exodus from the government schools...
Not only is this racist AF and stupid it is illegal, a blatant violation of the civil rights act and I am sure some New York state laws as well. Lawsuits need to be filed.
Further proof the world has been turned upside down.
Don't worry. Those four white people in that picture definitely know what's best for all of their students of color. 👍
“An affinity group is a group formed around a shared interest” - and so I wonder what's the shared interest common for all white kids....
I agree with sorting people by race for some social justice programs. It's easier to talk about some things when you're understood. I can relate to this via the difference between talking about my experience being unvaccinated to someone else who's unvaccinated, versus someone who's vaccinated. It's a huge difference. Racial groups sometimes have very different experiences in this country. It's easier to talk about things when you don't have to explain yourself so much, don't have to get push-back on those who disagree with how you've experienced things. It's easier with others who have a shared knowledge base, understand verbal and cognitive shortcuts, and not having to layout a whole history lesson to have your experience understood (like I tend to want to do when talking about my choice to not get vaccinated!). When I read more about history in the United States as an adult, I realized I didn't learn much in school about white European and African American history in this country. I began my early adulthood by not seeing color, but I was not seeing color through ignorance. Then I saw color, including my own white skin and recognizing that I also have a race. Now I both see and don't see color; I see the historical basis for a higher probability of common experiences of different races, while also seeing that we are all human beings. My adult racial education was a wonderful albeit painful learning journey.
Good points. I do prefer, though, to have options besides on the one hand silencing of certain groups (unvaccinated, black, immigrant, homosexual, Muslim, etc), and on the other hand mandatory splitting into affinity groups. We can just make friends with whom we share certain qualities and with whom we differ as well. I like how "in the old days" I had to grow a set and speak up about the things I thought that NO ONE I'd ever met seemed to think or feel. This affinity group thing actually has that wrong too, I think--it coddles people, reduces their capacity to difficult things, reduces their ability to tolerate feeling ALONE and weird AF sometimes. We need to learn when we are in puberty that we can and must tolerate feeling like a mutant. Without the emotional tolerance for that, no hero can exist.
Yeah, I appreciate what you're saying. The way most racial education groups I know of divide people by their racial groups initially, and then come together at some point. I think that's the best way to do it. I think there's a balance between coddling, and providing a "good enough challenge". When people are overly psychologically or emotionally challenged, they go into a defensive/reactive mode or a trauma mode. Neither of these promote connection, growth and learning.
wtf Who is the junior high school? the student? the teachers? the school administration ? the school board? Who approved this?
My son was in a famous private school in NYC. They start affinity groups in 1st grade. You get separated by race and sometimes by gender. He was there for 6 years, I could not take anymore the victim mentality and the drama. Schools in NYC spend more time in these subjects than academics. I was the only parent questioning why they were doing that. I think people think they are helping the community and building a better world but for me it is just crazy. They are teaching kids to judge one another and hate. I am from South America and I could never imagine that this country would ever became like this.
Ah, "social justice"! It's waging a battle with "public health" for oxymoron of the year.
Glad my kids don't go to school there. They'd have to cut them into pieces for the affinity groups.
Friendly reminder: sex is ASSIGNED at birth, quite randomly and arbitrarily, so there's really no way I can imagine to segregate people based upon it. How would you even do that?
Birth sex. Gender is so loaded these days that in some parts of the internet it makes no sense.