a bunch of students were super mean to other students because they got given some bossypants prison guard authority and it got all out of hand.
but then some other people said that maybe the whole experiment was invalid because probably some of the experimenters might have egged the guards on and that this meant it was not realistic.
so, now that they have replicated it with a whole real-life prison island, do you think these folks should retract their criticism?
because it seems like maybe they should…
also, i think maybe they let this one run on a little long.
did they not have any ethicists monitoring the study?
you’d think that after what happened last time they would have…
I'm with you on being more incensed by masks than anything else. Masks were the thin wedge that opened the door to totalitarian erosion of freedoms. Had everyone just said no to masks initially maybe we're not where we are today.
Yes, making sure lockdowns never happen again, and getting rid of vaccine mandates and passports is vitally important, but masks are still the most visible and obvious sign of obedience to the state and need to be pushed back against as hard as anything else.
I agree with both of you that the masks are the most disturbing part of all of this. Especially on children. It is the reason I have mostly moved out of Washington state. When I do spend time in the state I once loved, almost 100% of children in public are masked. It is one of the darkest things I've ever experienced. And even worse are the parents that I sometimes talk to who want MORE masking for these innocent little ones. The only word I can use for this is CULT.
I think many of us feel the same except I feel the jabs are sooo bad, worse than masks. BUT yes on the “cult” word. The “mass formation” psychosis and cultlike psychology are extremely similar. I had heard Washingtonschools are possible going to require jab. But brother lives in area and says not bad in the county he’s in. Not sure.
It's a part of the scam but it was really TV that made the Scamdemic happen.
As it began, I tried to find rational people who saw what a scam it was. Less than 10% of the people I know agreed with me. They saw some people on hospital stretchers and that Chinese guy in the street. It was all they needed.
True professionals! They don't process anything they hear as well. Other than to take the information and program themselves to believe it with complete certainty.
You aren't alone on that. Not by a long shot. Mandatory masks are absolutely one of the most dehumanizing things that has been implemented (and gleefully accepted) over the last 2 years. People just don't get it. It's *not* "just a mask*. I've had it with this insanity.
I commented yesterday on Malone's substack article about psyops that masks are probably the best evidence of success as people unthinkingly put them on like a fashion accessory. Think how Pelosi modeled it with her outfit coordinated face diapers.
I’ve just started telling people it’s upsetting to walk into Target or Whole Foods because it looks like a subsidiary of the Taliban……. It gets my point across about dehumanizing face diapers.
I’ve also started taking the kids, all of us maskless, shopping. I’m sure it helps they are cute. Went to Whole Foods and Sprouts yesterday.
Another mom with 2 kids about the age of mine also all without masks was good to see in Sprouts. People were actually very nice - even the ones in a face diaper (our County face diaper mandate is back in place).
At Whole Foods a homeless lady outside asked me to buy her some food. I told her let’s go get you a gift card and you buy yourself some food. Mostly people didn’t care about my little unmasked family, but one employee seemed irritated - until she realized I first went to customer service to get “Thelma” (I swear she told me that was her name) a $20 gift card. It was fairly obvious Thelma was homeless, and toothless. The one irritated employee softened when she realized what we had done……. But then she seemed conflicted when she realized we bought Thelma a gift card first, but we were totally staying to shop maskless. 😂😂😂
One of my intellectual heroes, Carter G. Woodson, said it best. "When you control a man’s thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go yonder. He will find his 'proper place' and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary." He was talking about the behavior of Black people after a long enough time under mental and emotional subjugation. 'Tis ironic as hell that the lesson applies so widely today.
Some are in England but I’m hoping that English working class rebellious streak is on full display especially from the under 30 age group. It was on display during the World cup matches and I was happy to see no enforcers in sight.
We just need to nab our lords and masters doing something naughty. Bojo's unmasked, large parties were the straw that broke the camel's back over there. He's running for his political life. (And can you believe they were BYOB? Not only was the one rule for me, one for thee thing in evidence, but he's also a real cheapskate!)
Same. The dehumanizing of covering the face has long been practiced in Arab culture and more recently, Chinese culture. Why did America so willingly adopt it? To try to press the masses into subjection.
A significant portion of the American populace positively worships anything that the label "expert" is slapped on, no matter how risible the designation, no matter how often and how manifestly the designee fails.
The masks send me through the roof as well. My husband and I have never put one on our face and that's the hill I die on. Beyond dehumanizing, with exactly the purpose you have stated. You get everyone in a mask, uniform misery and completely anonymous, then anything is possible.
I freely and readily admit: despite knowing the science of exactly how and why it is happening, it is hard for me to see a masked face as being "as human" as an unmasked one.
Well said. I like to salute those of a different political persuasion when they say something smart and Glenn Greenwald was particularly incensed when pictures came out of high ranking team blue types like Pelosi enjoying being maskless at their little soirees while the mere peasants serving them had to wear full masks and bow and scrape. The "representatives" of the party that used to say it was the party of the little guy positively wallowed luxuriously in the feudalistic caste system. But Greenwald was in a tiny minority of team blue public figures who thought there was anything at all wrong with it. So sad.
Wow, I couldn’t’ agree with you more. A few years ago I saw a progressive mom give a little Catholic girl a “burqua Barbie” as a gift, I almost flipped!! And I’ve rebelled against the fucking blue masks from the beginning. Besides not doing a damn thing to prevent a damn thing, it messes up my lipstick. (Just humor…). I was thrown out of REI for the blue diaper not covering my nose - the manager offered to let me shop from the sidewalk. To me, it represents control…..
All these replies here are making me want to go make a fake mask that covers ONLY the barest outline of my mouth and nose or , even better, all the REST my lower face and NOT the mouth and nose and when they scream to put it, pull it out of my pocket, smile at them and go really really close and say “is that good?”
Here in Canada, masks are required for all indoor venues, so I just wear a black bandana, which would've gotten me in trouble less than 3 years ago, as I would've been immediately suspected of being a looter or robber. That's my coping mechanism.
I'm in the Los Angeles area, and frankly, the masks don't bother me all that much. There are enough "dissenters" that it really highlights the nuttiness of the "faithful". I can walk on the street with my "surgical" mask tucked under my chin and be amused at those who step out into the street to avoid my abundant "cooties". Or people on a wide hiking trail who pull up their masks when I come within 35 or so feet of them. That people can be such "believers"....Yes, seeing young children in masks is thoroughly disgusting. There's also nothing I can do about it.
The vaccines are far worse. I'll take mask psychosis over vax psychosis any day.
I disagree. Masks have been used to dehumanize and divide and control since the Byzantine empire. If you don’t have kids maybe you don’t have responsibility to do it, but there is absolutely something you can do about it - have the guts to take your mask off. The kids and the service class will be forced into dehumanizing face masks the longest. They have no chance until everyday people find the internal fortitude to stop playing along with the nonsense.
Middle aged people in California might want to consider fighting a little harder for kids. At the rate things are going, retirement will be difficult in a state lacking educated or functional young adults - which is where CA is headed. Don’t believe me? How is Seattle doing and which direction is it headed? They started destroying kids there 20th years ago…… and things don’t look too bright for the place now, much less a decade or two from now.
I agree 100% Guttermouth. Recently, a friend of mine - who is on the right side of the fence, BTW - told me that masks are not that important, we should focus on the vaccines. I told him that vaccines have been the most powerful tool to perpetuate panic and the "pandemic mentality" on the population. It is a disgrace.
Ask him why we should focus on "vaccines" that don't stop infection or transmission of the virus. There is no public benefit; and, as el gato malo has pointed out many times, the vaxxed have higher infection rates...much higher with Omicron.
In the latest UK Health Security Agency report, by vaxx status between week 50 2021 and week 1 2022, age 50 and older...
He is on our side of the fence. His point was that we should focus on the negative aspects of the "vaccines", neither safe nor effective. I told him that fighting against masks is also important.
I had one of our patients tell me by phone it was the unvaccinated that were causing the variants. What a lie but some people truly believe these lies she said it like the gospel truth.
Mutations in the unvaxxed are random. Mutations in the vaxxed that survive vaccinal antibodies targeting the spike protein are by definition immune escape variants. No question that the vaxxed are variant factories.
Vaccinologists, epidemiologists, public health "experts" etc and the government and opposition parties here in NZ all promote this bs and it is faithfully and unquestioningly reported as fact and promulgated by all msm in this country too.
Seven states currently have indoor mask mandates; not my blue state but its biggest city does (very prominent Af America mayor) and most of the school systems, as well; the worse of it is, voluntary masking (since about mid-December) in grocery stores particularly, is very close to 100% some are now posting "masks required" signs.
This forum is, naturally, an echo chamber (not a criticism) but do understand that your "fury" is very much a minority position (at a minimum a red/blue coasts/flyover divide); from where I sit fury at mask resisters predominates.
Oh I'm aware. At its peak, only maybe one other uncovered face beyond my own could be spotted in any public establishment. If people disagreed with the mandates, they still didn't have the courage to not do it. 99% complied, which is incredibly sad.
RegretLeft, I think that may be because of where you live. I've been traveling the states and only in the western region and NE region have I found that maskers are perceived to have the moral high ground, in the rest of the regions people just don't seem to care if you do or you don't wear one, and most people don't.
I am with you on the fury regarding this total theatrical prop. I live in CA and no one gets me--although the hassling in stores has gone way down, so maybe some compliers DO get me, just feel like they cannot also unmask b/c means losing a job. Me, I left one of my jobs over mask/test 'accommodations'. TOTAL theatre. Ineffective AND harmful.
That YouTube video 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣. And it’s a year old!!!! It’s aged well (unlike the mask policy).
I love Brownstone and we’ve added them to our charitable giving.
I can’t imagine being in CA. People are crazy in the cities here, but not fully committed. Most are scared of getting yelled at by Karen, but not being a Karen - we don’t actually have very many Karen’s. A few, but not the really committed ones.
Less than 25% of parents 5-11 have vaccinated their kids, less than 50% 12-17. The only age groups at 70% vaccination rate or higher is the 61+ crowd. Only about 26% of the population is “boosted.” There is speculation all of those are a little inflated from reality.
Healthcare is getting wrecked here over the mandates, but population wide there have been very very few (Raleigh maybe tried, and that’s it, and that was just for city employees). Masks have been the same - a few cities on and off have them, but not heavily enforced, and they are losing steam. Outdoor masks haven’t been a thing here in over a year. Vaccination rates haven’t meaningfully changed in months but for the few weeks a small minority of people jabbed their little kids.
The public school kids are being forced to mask all year, but charter and private have only during on again off again county mandates - none this year have lasted more than 6 weeks. More importantly, except at a couple woke public schools, and a couple woke private schools, the teachers have been all done telling the kids to put their masks back on at most schools. My kid’s school has especially opposed the mandates, but I know of charter and public schools the teachers just stopped really enforcing the mandates months ago. I don’t think any school in NC has required either masks or social distancing outside. Honestly, the real damage is being done in the daycares that seem to be behind everywhere else on letting it go (notable the kids are mostly not masked, but the early Ed teachers are).
Sending you good thoughts and lots of support. I know it’s easier for me to ditch the mask than people in places like CA. I’m hoping the more of us that do it here, the easier it gets for you there.
I agree to the impact on my mental health. During the "two weeks" period in the beginning my husband and I were at the local grocery and had a man yell at us across the parking lot to put our (expletive) masks on. That started the mask fire in my soul. Most people dropped the mask thing until all the Omni scare tactics of late and now, they are everywhere - except on me. This week I was in line at a store and a young mother and child were masked up in front of me. I felt such anger come over me as I saw this young child be subjected to covering her face. Then the girl touched something in the aisle she wanted to ask for and the mother immediately said, "DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING" and I just exploded with anger inside. Wow. How will these young children overcome the mental damage done? I feel like my mental health has definitely had an immediate and tremendous setback.
Same. From one of the most masked up states to one of the least. I knew the masks were having a bad psychological effect on me, but didn't know the actual physical relief I would feel at not having them a part of daily life againl
Give SOME parents a slight break please, here in moderately free Texas, I still get disgusted but I remember talking to multiple parents many years ago (I’m not a parent) that kids often wear what they want to wear (it was in November years ago and a couple of kids STILL wanted to wear their Halloween costumes weeks later).
Remember, at this point, they’ve been conditioned by tons of psychosis now to wear masks in school. Some kids probably feel like it’s their security blanket. Some parents may feel they need to fight bigger battles. I AGREE with you it’s still psychosis on several levels (parents and kids) but I also see why it happens.
My 2nd gun class tonight. I always supported the 2nd in theory. Now I believe self-defense is necessary. The current walkback/lull is temporary. Their plans are long term. I expect this war to last past my death. Never imagined I'd be spending my golden years trying to keep my government from murdering me.
I went through that same transformation these last few years…..I was once an advocate for gun control. Today I’m 39 and have my conceal-carry. Four years ago I never thought I would buy a gun.
While the gun violence that accompanies the 2nd amendment is heartbreaking, it is a far smaller price for society to pay overall than the alternative - creeping tyranny and lethal authoritarianism.
Here is an article from Oct 2021 that makes me smile (I was a whitewater River guide in WV in undergrad and my husband is from rural VA so I know exactly what the author is talking about). 💓😂
"While the gun violence that accompanies the 2nd amendment is heartbreaking..."
The nongun violence in Australia that accompanies their rejection of a 2nd amendment (e.g. they voluntarily gave up their guns), that nongun violence is, IMO, even more heartbreaking, because there's NO good that comes from it. It is the proverbial ill wind that blows no good.
The 2nd Amendment in America blows plenty of good.
I do get your point, though - sometimes good things are used to commit terrible acts.
I support the 2nd amendment. I’m not even for gun control anymore (somehow there has never been an effort to curtail gang gun ownership, cartel gun ownership, etc, so I’m done supporting that). I’m just saying there is probably a trade-off, and I still land in the side of the 2nd amendment got it right for reasons I didn’t fully appreciate, much less fully embrace, until recently.
Here is a quote from the article to give you an idea
“Seriously, imagine if Ron DeSantis did an about-face and required everyone who shops at Publix to sign up for contact tracing. There would be riots. No, actually, there wouldn’t—because the good folks who work for Publix would refuse to comply. And if the CDC tried to bring out a Covid app like South Australia’s, they would be mooned by thousands upon thousands of Americans every 15 minutes.
When it comes to our civil liberties, the first line of defense is an old Marine with a Coors Light in one hand and a Remington 870 in the other. He’s got his mask pulled down over his chin and a Winston Red dangling from his lips. He has eight Trump stickers on the back of his truck and one that says “Booty Hunter” just to mix things up. He’s got the Confederate flag tattooed on his left arm and—of course—he’s wearing a MAGA hat.
This specter haunts Washington: the specter of Middle America. Call him Old Red.
Old Red looms over every meeting of the CDC, the FBI, the DHS, and the ATF.”
Look at these goons, they are armed like a SWAT team! These are everyday officers, and we've militarized them beyond recognition as public servant peace officers into Stasi enforcers.
I'm no fan of defund the police, but I'm no longer a 'back the blue'. Until police officers stop "Just Following Orders" and tell their puppeteers "No More", they will only get resistance from me. They are completely co-opted.
I would take away all the cops paramilitary gear, make them wear soft yellow polos (Kevlar vest is OK underneath), kahki pants, one taser, one radio and one body cam. That's it.
There were several officers present on the subway platform the day that woman was pushed onto the tracks. They don't even try to prevent violent crime, they're just there to catch fare evaders and harass street musicians as a general rule.
When the whole flatten the curve thing started it really irritated me that there seemed to be such difficulty in ending it. I went all Braveheart but around me people were lying down and playing comrade. My search for conformity info quickly led to this video and I found the quote about the same time. People are still crazy after all this time.
I live in the hell that is New York State. King Kathy Hochul, the unelected governor of New York State, issued a mask mandate for the entire New York state in December 2021. The edict on high with no input from the NYS Legislature nor from the slaves that live in New York State, requires:
Masks be worn in all indoor places, unless the business or venue requires proof of vaccination for entry
The useless overreach mandate was supposed to expire on January 15th, 2022.
King Kathy has extended the mask mandate until February 1, 2022. It will be extended again, and again and again...
Last week I got one of your products, I would say the best in your catalogue, namely SARS-COV-2. I was very attracted to it from the very beggining, but I have to admit that is was the commercials that finally pushed me to make the decision. My fav is the one with people dropping dead on the street. Excellent! So, honestly, I was expecting one hell of a ride.
But, the reality is very different at the moment. Just one day of fever and one night with a sore throat. And, apparently, the amusement is gone.
I expect some new features in the coming days. Otherwise, I will have to fill a complaint or something.
Can you even see yourself doing this? They could never make me do this to other people...how do they sleep at night...they know it's wrong at a human level yet they still persist.
How can they kick Novak out of the AO because he won't conform...how can the other players not drop out in protest of this massive misuse of their authority and bring it to bear on one HUMAN BEING...disgusting!
Some percentage of LEOs revel in this, became LEOs *because* it would give them the authority - or at least the power - over other people. It may be a small percentage, but a small percentage of a large number can still be a large number.
Of course several of the men's players won't drop out for career reasons. With Djokovic unable to compete they finally have a chance to finish in a higher rank.
Acquaintances from Australia are, historically, the most "liberal" of all people I know. Over the years, they've relished every opportunity to explain to me what was wrong with America, starting with the Second Amendment. They now regret giving up private ownership of guns. It's worth meditating on their experience.
They are learning that their practice of liberalism ends up in tyranny and giving up your individual rights is not a good idea. It will be interesting to see how it develops and whether or not they will continue to descend into tyrannical hell or be able to find some way to reverse what has already occurred.
Pretty much any noun/adjective combined with 'pants' is a winsome, yet effective, put-down. My dog, an overly sensitive and slightly high-strung lab-husky mix, is routinely referred to around here as "Mr. Candypants."
(I also have an 18-year-old gray mackerel tabby cat who has visibly had a paw in the grave for at least three years yet just keeps kicking canine ass and taking names. I think I'm going to have to rechristen him 'Keith Richards.')
Gato, while this is totally off subject I found it soo sarcastically funny I thought you and your cats would appreciate: feel free to take this one and run with it:
Background is tragic (sorry to Tonga, prayers go with you, the sarcasm is directed at New Zealand.) Tonga was hit with natural disaster and New Zealand to send aid)
(Reuters, today, Jan 19, 22): “New Zealand said Tonga, one of the few countries to be free of the new coronavirus, had agreed to receive two of its ships, the Aotearoa and the Wellington, despite concerns about importing a COVID-19 outbreak that would exacerbate its crisis.”
The experiment was obviously valid and the naysayers had an overzealous view of humanity. As JBP says, if they lived in pre-WW2, most people would have been Nazis. I think he specifies "you" but I think we've seen who would and would not have been a Nazi and it isn't anyone here.
I learned what lives in every human heart when I lived in a place where we had servants. Even the slightest power over another person's livelihood and thereby their life starts the worm of corruption on its putrid little way. I'm grateful I had at least the capacity to recognize that in myself and recoil from it...
I know they’d just counter with heavier tactics, but I wonder what would happen if a few people set themselves up as unmasked decoys while their club-wielding mates waited in ambush to greet the enforcers? Not advocating, of course, just wondering. It’s bound to happen eventually.
So many classic social psychology studies still stand as essential reading. Zimbardo's work can't be replicated due to ethics rules of course, but would have been useful to understand nuances in further research, given we are all now in the full on planetary experiment with no informed consent or debriefing when it is over.
I visited Australia once and was quite disillusioned. I thought Aussies were like Merikans with an independent go F-yourself spirit. Nope. Very very conformist society. We actually had to go through a breathalyzer checkpoint setup on a road once. They were stopping everyone and everyone complied.
I sat on the beach once and watched Chinese container barges in an endless stream. Then I knew why Australia felt so icky to me. It is so close to China with a very close relationship (even more than the US).
The best word ever invented in the whole of human civilization is "no." No explanations, no elucidating, no modifying, no extrapolating, no bargaining, no conditionalization--just "no."
It's hard to stick to that one little syllable. "No, because..."
If you want to make their heads explode, JUST SAY NO.
Perhaps they should start handing out awards next to their oppressors and donate the money like this war criminal is doing to Holocaust education. As Bugs Bunny would say “Ironic ain’t it”!!
Seems like the real-world "testing" (duplication?) we have enjoyed, of both the Stanford Prison Experiment and the Milgram Experiments, places the ostensible criticisms of the conclusions of either in a different, and unfavorable, light. I admit that the criticisms, particularly of Milgram, were initially persuasive. However, it seems more and more like people are *exactly* as crappy as those experiments indicated, particularly when they acquire (undeserved?) power over their fellow man. Then again, pretty much every government in the history of governments has exemplified that truth!
Humans can be gutless wonders when there is a paycheck involved. They used to say insanity was the exception in individual humans but the rule in a mob. These insane public individuals send the police to start acting as a mob. Insanity times two.
Reading comments, i think the worst of it has been the sheer magnitude of the deception, followed by the despots who cremated all human & civil rights (the corrupt judiciary & media) in their evil, dark, actions to force poision into the people..
Yes, these corrupt police look familiar, in fact i think they are the one's I saw on TV here in Oz a few months ago in Victoria & New South Wales. The same ones inciting crowds, generally breaking laws, harrassing, insulting people, shooting people with rubber bullets etc...
Australia, the former penal colon-y now being run by the penises and awholes!
Fauci Diaper;
-invented by the universe's sexiest octogenarian, Dr Wuhan Tony 'Snoopy' Fauci
-a Cough IT 1984 face mask that gives you 5 TIMES the protection of the beta light blue surgical masks defended and adorned by the brave and well-researched Slave Lemmings of the Covidopalypse.
-do the math dammit, 5 TIMES...........ZER0!!!!!
-most intriguing aspects of the Fauci Diaper are that before you take the Diaper fresh out of its package and attaching the Diaper to your face, the Fauci Diaper has the awe-inspiring distinction of already being full of SHIT!
These cops are (mis)using the same authority they've always had, and in similarly brilliant fashion, they just have new targets of enforcement now. So where are we at now? Back the Blue or ACAB?
Well, here is your peaceful visit, the other variety isn't allowed to be recorded. Note the Totally Dumb Ass Questions from the FIB. Do Not Talk to the FIB is the 100% advice from lawyers. Up to you.
1. The first picture, with the paper bag over the head, reminds me of something I watched months ago. I think it was Australia. Some COVID-positive persons getting off a bus with trash bags over their heads and tied around their necks with a string. To prevent transmission! Still, probably more effective than the vacshit.
2. The second picture is very descriptive since the mask they are forcing on her is USELESS. Again, more useful than the vacshit.
gato! i really do hope you screen your comment section!
i don't have the literary gift as you have so it's up to you to write a spy thriller which would revolve around the idea how omicron was also engineered in the lab by the good guys to stifle efforts of the vaccinators.
The utter dehumanization that had been done in the name of those useless little fucking blue masks.
People wonder why I get so disproportionately furious about masks when lockdowns and lethal vaccines are surely higher priorities.
There's something so visceral about them. It makes me see red. Burqas/niqab do the same. I'm thrilled I don't live somewhere where I see them anymore.
I'm with you on being more incensed by masks than anything else. Masks were the thin wedge that opened the door to totalitarian erosion of freedoms. Had everyone just said no to masks initially maybe we're not where we are today.
Yes, making sure lockdowns never happen again, and getting rid of vaccine mandates and passports is vitally important, but masks are still the most visible and obvious sign of obedience to the state and need to be pushed back against as hard as anything else.
I agree with both of you that the masks are the most disturbing part of all of this. Especially on children. It is the reason I have mostly moved out of Washington state. When I do spend time in the state I once loved, almost 100% of children in public are masked. It is one of the darkest things I've ever experienced. And even worse are the parents that I sometimes talk to who want MORE masking for these innocent little ones. The only word I can use for this is CULT.
Its the elites muzzling peasants like dogs
I think many of us feel the same except I feel the jabs are sooo bad, worse than masks. BUT yes on the “cult” word. The “mass formation” psychosis and cultlike psychology are extremely similar. I had heard Washingtonschools are possible going to require jab. But brother lives in area and says not bad in the county he’s in. Not sure.
Mass Formation.
It's a part of the scam but it was really TV that made the Scamdemic happen.
As it began, I tried to find rational people who saw what a scam it was. Less than 10% of the people I know agreed with me. They saw some people on hospital stretchers and that Chinese guy in the street. It was all they needed.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/the-medias-epic-coronavirus-fail
The masked are world class tv watchers. GIGO
True professionals! They don't process anything they hear as well. Other than to take the information and program themselves to believe it with complete certainty.
That Chinese guy dead in the street was the iconic photo of this whole covid scam.
Reminds me of the photo of the South Vietnamese general blowing out the brains of that captured VC.
Iconic photos that changed history. This one definitely for the worse.
https://citytoday.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/wuhan-780x405.png
Around here, the Karen Klass have gone full pig snout N95 lately. I just breeze on by maskless and smile
You aren't alone on that. Not by a long shot. Mandatory masks are absolutely one of the most dehumanizing things that has been implemented (and gleefully accepted) over the last 2 years. People just don't get it. It's *not* "just a mask*. I've had it with this insanity.
I commented yesterday on Malone's substack article about psyops that masks are probably the best evidence of success as people unthinkingly put them on like a fashion accessory. Think how Pelosi modeled it with her outfit coordinated face diapers.
Fashion accessory... freaken disgusting people
I’ve just started telling people it’s upsetting to walk into Target or Whole Foods because it looks like a subsidiary of the Taliban……. It gets my point across about dehumanizing face diapers.
I’ve also started taking the kids, all of us maskless, shopping. I’m sure it helps they are cute. Went to Whole Foods and Sprouts yesterday.
Another mom with 2 kids about the age of mine also all without masks was good to see in Sprouts. People were actually very nice - even the ones in a face diaper (our County face diaper mandate is back in place).
At Whole Foods a homeless lady outside asked me to buy her some food. I told her let’s go get you a gift card and you buy yourself some food. Mostly people didn’t care about my little unmasked family, but one employee seemed irritated - until she realized I first went to customer service to get “Thelma” (I swear she told me that was her name) a $20 gift card. It was fairly obvious Thelma was homeless, and toothless. The one irritated employee softened when she realized what we had done……. But then she seemed conflicted when she realized we bought Thelma a gift card first, but we were totally staying to shop maskless. 😂😂😂
Target, Whole Foods. Got it. I'm heading there this week! Wearing my NOT VACCINATED t shirt...
With Yellow Star.
I like confrontation
Love it!!!! 😂
My family, all freaken hate my behavior.
My dog likes it! Or is that treats I give him?
Dogs are a better judge of character! lolz!
I'm gonna be in heaven then.
Except for chihuahuas, I am beloved of dogs. One attacked my dog.... I did this, as my dog just stood staring...
See ending:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjqiq4S9bqA
Sounds like masking is over in the U.K. as of Thursday - it will be interesting to see how many people keep wearing them.
One of my intellectual heroes, Carter G. Woodson, said it best. "When you control a man’s thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go yonder. He will find his 'proper place' and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary." He was talking about the behavior of Black people after a long enough time under mental and emotional subjugation. 'Tis ironic as hell that the lesson applies so widely today.
And still applies to the majority of people who happen to be black and are still mentally owned by the DNC
Ouch! (Damned accurate though.)
A shitload will. My guess is around 30-40%. Brits are mostly scared little sheep.
Some are in England but I’m hoping that English working class rebellious streak is on full display especially from the under 30 age group. It was on display during the World cup matches and I was happy to see no enforcers in sight.
High school kids in Lancastshire
Btw, enjoy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D70kZDLGr4Q
Not as scared as woke Americans……. 😂
My daughter lives in Cambridge. She would beg to differ.
They'll bring it back... jacking with u
We just need to nab our lords and masters doing something naughty. Bojo's unmasked, large parties were the straw that broke the camel's back over there. He's running for his political life. (And can you believe they were BYOB? Not only was the one rule for me, one for thee thing in evidence, but he's also a real cheapskate!)
February 14th 2022 is the end of CDPH mask mandates. I'm fairly certain our coward's in public health will recommend extending this.
Greg Gutfeld and Scott Adams have been saying everything is over on 1 February. Hoping this turns out to be true! I've had ENOUGH of masks.
It will only end when we decide it ends.
Same. The dehumanizing of covering the face has long been practiced in Arab culture and more recently, Chinese culture. Why did America so willingly adopt it? To try to press the masses into subjection.
https://leahtaylor.substack.com/p/mask-mandates-are-the-wrong-approach
This is a fantastic article. The historical and cross-cultural context is extremely educational.
Thank you. I put down my phone over Christmas and started thinking. Dangerous practice! You might never stop.
Humanity would wake up tomorrow if these goddamn phones went away.
No kidding. Never would’ve gone to sleep.
A significant portion of the American populace positively worships anything that the label "expert" is slapped on, no matter how risible the designation, no matter how often and how manifestly the designee fails.
The masks send me through the roof as well. My husband and I have never put one on our face and that's the hill I die on. Beyond dehumanizing, with exactly the purpose you have stated. You get everyone in a mask, uniform misery and completely anonymous, then anything is possible.
I freely and readily admit: despite knowing the science of exactly how and why it is happening, it is hard for me to see a masked face as being "as human" as an unmasked one.
Well said. I like to salute those of a different political persuasion when they say something smart and Glenn Greenwald was particularly incensed when pictures came out of high ranking team blue types like Pelosi enjoying being maskless at their little soirees while the mere peasants serving them had to wear full masks and bow and scrape. The "representatives" of the party that used to say it was the party of the little guy positively wallowed luxuriously in the feudalistic caste system. But Greenwald was in a tiny minority of team blue public figures who thought there was anything at all wrong with it. So sad.
It clearly was the hill to die, not the vax, but only a few of us knew.
Wow, I couldn’t’ agree with you more. A few years ago I saw a progressive mom give a little Catholic girl a “burqua Barbie” as a gift, I almost flipped!! And I’ve rebelled against the fucking blue masks from the beginning. Besides not doing a damn thing to prevent a damn thing, it messes up my lipstick. (Just humor…). I was thrown out of REI for the blue diaper not covering my nose - the manager offered to let me shop from the sidewalk. To me, it represents control…..
All these replies here are making me want to go make a fake mask that covers ONLY the barest outline of my mouth and nose or , even better, all the REST my lower face and NOT the mouth and nose and when they scream to put it, pull it out of my pocket, smile at them and go really really close and say “is that good?”
Here in Canada, masks are required for all indoor venues, so I just wear a black bandana, which would've gotten me in trouble less than 3 years ago, as I would've been immediately suspected of being a looter or robber. That's my coping mechanism.
They exist!!!!!
I'm in the Los Angeles area, and frankly, the masks don't bother me all that much. There are enough "dissenters" that it really highlights the nuttiness of the "faithful". I can walk on the street with my "surgical" mask tucked under my chin and be amused at those who step out into the street to avoid my abundant "cooties". Or people on a wide hiking trail who pull up their masks when I come within 35 or so feet of them. That people can be such "believers"....Yes, seeing young children in masks is thoroughly disgusting. There's also nothing I can do about it.
The vaccines are far worse. I'll take mask psychosis over vax psychosis any day.
I disagree. Masks have been used to dehumanize and divide and control since the Byzantine empire. If you don’t have kids maybe you don’t have responsibility to do it, but there is absolutely something you can do about it - have the guts to take your mask off. The kids and the service class will be forced into dehumanizing face masks the longest. They have no chance until everyday people find the internal fortitude to stop playing along with the nonsense.
Middle aged people in California might want to consider fighting a little harder for kids. At the rate things are going, retirement will be difficult in a state lacking educated or functional young adults - which is where CA is headed. Don’t believe me? How is Seattle doing and which direction is it headed? They started destroying kids there 20th years ago…… and things don’t look too bright for the place now, much less a decade or two from now.
I just feel bad for the kids, as they have no escape from it all day in school.
And make no mistake, it is doing real and lasting damage to them.
LA Bob, be am American and stop wearing it
I’m with you but there’s truth to what the others here are saying, the masks are part and parcel with the psychosis.
Kids should not be normalized to not expect to see human faces. That's a recipe for a society of psychopaths.
They disgust me.
My rule: you Can't wear one unless one of those special kinds and you have 3 different doctors sign off.
Doctors kicked out by Medical board for honesty
Enjoy it.
I agree 100% Guttermouth. Recently, a friend of mine - who is on the right side of the fence, BTW - told me that masks are not that important, we should focus on the vaccines. I told him that vaccines have been the most powerful tool to perpetuate panic and the "pandemic mentality" on the population. It is a disgrace.
Ask him why we should focus on "vaccines" that don't stop infection or transmission of the virus. There is no public benefit; and, as el gato malo has pointed out many times, the vaxxed have higher infection rates...much higher with Omicron.
In the latest UK Health Security Agency report, by vaxx status between week 50 2021 and week 1 2022, age 50 and older...
88.2% of cases,
71.7% of hospitalizations, and
68.1% of deaths within 28 days...
were fully vaxxed.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1047814/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-2-2022.pdf
The vaxxed appear to be amplifying viral spread and spinning off new variants.
He is on our side of the fence. His point was that we should focus on the negative aspects of the "vaccines", neither safe nor effective. I told him that fighting against masks is also important.
Okay. I didn't understand your point. We should fight against all of it.
I had one of our patients tell me by phone it was the unvaccinated that were causing the variants. What a lie but some people truly believe these lies she said it like the gospel truth.
Mutations in the unvaxxed are random. Mutations in the vaxxed that survive vaccinal antibodies targeting the spike protein are by definition immune escape variants. No question that the vaxxed are variant factories.
Exactly. Just like those who use antibiotics are the ones who cause antibiotic-resistant organisms, not people who don’t use antibiotics
Vaccinologists, epidemiologists, public health "experts" etc and the government and opposition parties here in NZ all promote this bs and it is faithfully and unquestioningly reported as fact and promulgated by all msm in this country too.
Seven states currently have indoor mask mandates; not my blue state but its biggest city does (very prominent Af America mayor) and most of the school systems, as well; the worse of it is, voluntary masking (since about mid-December) in grocery stores particularly, is very close to 100% some are now posting "masks required" signs.
This forum is, naturally, an echo chamber (not a criticism) but do understand that your "fury" is very much a minority position (at a minimum a red/blue coasts/flyover divide); from where I sit fury at mask resisters predominates.
Oh I'm aware. At its peak, only maybe one other uncovered face beyond my own could be spotted in any public establishment. If people disagreed with the mandates, they still didn't have the courage to not do it. 99% complied, which is incredibly sad.
RegretLeft, I think that may be because of where you live. I've been traveling the states and only in the western region and NE region have I found that maskers are perceived to have the moral high ground, in the rest of the regions people just don't seem to care if you do or you don't wear one, and most people don't.
Doesn't mean it is right, it's more like this picture: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/august-landmesser-1936/
OK. What's your point?
I am with you on the fury regarding this total theatrical prop. I live in CA and no one gets me--although the hassling in stores has gone way down, so maybe some compliers DO get me, just feel like they cannot also unmask b/c means losing a job. Me, I left one of my jobs over mask/test 'accommodations'. TOTAL theatre. Ineffective AND harmful.
https://brownstone.org/articles/more-than-150-comparative-studies-and-articles-on-mask-ineffectiveness-and-harms/
https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/8/4344/htm
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/47-studies-confirm-inefectiveness-of-masks-for-covid-and-32-more-confirm-their-negative-health-effects/
Here is some LOL for this:
All Masks Matter - Target Tries To Stop Me from shopping because I don't have on the Correct Mask.
https://youtu.be/AASp25qWIUk
That YouTube video 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣. And it’s a year old!!!! It’s aged well (unlike the mask policy).
I love Brownstone and we’ve added them to our charitable giving.
I can’t imagine being in CA. People are crazy in the cities here, but not fully committed. Most are scared of getting yelled at by Karen, but not being a Karen - we don’t actually have very many Karen’s. A few, but not the really committed ones.
Less than 25% of parents 5-11 have vaccinated their kids, less than 50% 12-17. The only age groups at 70% vaccination rate or higher is the 61+ crowd. Only about 26% of the population is “boosted.” There is speculation all of those are a little inflated from reality.
Healthcare is getting wrecked here over the mandates, but population wide there have been very very few (Raleigh maybe tried, and that’s it, and that was just for city employees). Masks have been the same - a few cities on and off have them, but not heavily enforced, and they are losing steam. Outdoor masks haven’t been a thing here in over a year. Vaccination rates haven’t meaningfully changed in months but for the few weeks a small minority of people jabbed their little kids.
The public school kids are being forced to mask all year, but charter and private have only during on again off again county mandates - none this year have lasted more than 6 weeks. More importantly, except at a couple woke public schools, and a couple woke private schools, the teachers have been all done telling the kids to put their masks back on at most schools. My kid’s school has especially opposed the mandates, but I know of charter and public schools the teachers just stopped really enforcing the mandates months ago. I don’t think any school in NC has required either masks or social distancing outside. Honestly, the real damage is being done in the daycares that seem to be behind everywhere else on letting it go (notable the kids are mostly not masked, but the early Ed teachers are).
Sending you good thoughts and lots of support. I know it’s easier for me to ditch the mask than people in places like CA. I’m hoping the more of us that do it here, the easier it gets for you there.
The premise isn't hilarious.... but the dude is 100% Smart Ass , which is always hilarious and100% American
Burqa/Nijab - hmmm - what if they were bottomless? Just sayin'
Wait. Like bottomless underneath, or like assless chaps?
I moved somewhere overwhelmingly maskless and the impact on my mental health was immediate and tremendous.
I agree to the impact on my mental health. During the "two weeks" period in the beginning my husband and I were at the local grocery and had a man yell at us across the parking lot to put our (expletive) masks on. That started the mask fire in my soul. Most people dropped the mask thing until all the Omni scare tactics of late and now, they are everywhere - except on me. This week I was in line at a store and a young mother and child were masked up in front of me. I felt such anger come over me as I saw this young child be subjected to covering her face. Then the girl touched something in the aisle she wanted to ask for and the mother immediately said, "DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING" and I just exploded with anger inside. Wow. How will these young children overcome the mental damage done? I feel like my mental health has definitely had an immediate and tremendous setback.
God bless you. I made special effort to smile at these abused kids. Little ones
Same. From one of the most masked up states to one of the least. I knew the masks were having a bad psychological effect on me, but didn't know the actual physical relief I would feel at not having them a part of daily life againl
I see people wearing them at very sparsely used lake.... nobody there.
Ugh. I turn away
Give SOME parents a slight break please, here in moderately free Texas, I still get disgusted but I remember talking to multiple parents many years ago (I’m not a parent) that kids often wear what they want to wear (it was in November years ago and a couple of kids STILL wanted to wear their Halloween costumes weeks later).
Remember, at this point, they’ve been conditioned by tons of psychosis now to wear masks in school. Some kids probably feel like it’s their security blanket. Some parents may feel they need to fight bigger battles. I AGREE with you it’s still psychosis on several levels (parents and kids) but I also see why it happens.
Sorry, no break for these parents.
Virtue signaling, idiocy, cowardice.... no break.
Why don't you tell them to stop. Don't waste my time protecting them
"my teenager started to put THEIR mask on in the hotel lobby"? LOL.
When will you learn whether it's a boy or a girl? Any word on that?
Yeah, people wear them in car, I go way into stoor withNOT VACCINATED t shirt, they go another way with masks...
We are embarrassed of each other
Security blanket? Are you a commie?
Um, no. You are wrong.
I never thought I'd say this, but I now think the second amendment in the US might be the most important one.
My 2nd gun class tonight. I always supported the 2nd in theory. Now I believe self-defense is necessary. The current walkback/lull is temporary. Their plans are long term. I expect this war to last past my death. Never imagined I'd be spending my golden years trying to keep my government from murdering me.
Mary, I agree 100%. I”m in my Golden Years and have decided to stay “locked and loaded”, and cautious.
I never understood the value of the 2nd amendment until reading the constitution in 2020 for different reasons altogether!
Yes. Unfortunately. Yes.
Handgun, shotgun and rifle. All three have their place in your defense.
I’ve wanted a shotgun, but you can’t fire them at our ranges. Maybe after it thaws in the spring and we can shoot outdoors.
We bought a couple of 9mm in November and added an AR15 a couple of weeks later.
I always thought the concern about the 2nd Amendment was overblown until Obama assumed the throne.
That's when it went from theoretical to practical for me.
It's the ONLY one that has the best chance of protecting all the others.
I suppose that's grammatically incorrect, to say "only" and "best".
So, "It is THE one that has the best chance of protecting all the others."
I went through that same transformation these last few years…..I was once an advocate for gun control. Today I’m 39 and have my conceal-carry. Four years ago I never thought I would buy a gun.
While the gun violence that accompanies the 2nd amendment is heartbreaking, it is a far smaller price for society to pay overall than the alternative - creeping tyranny and lethal authoritarianism.
Here is an article from Oct 2021 that makes me smile (I was a whitewater River guide in WV in undergrad and my husband is from rural VA so I know exactly what the author is talking about). 💓😂
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/thank-god-for-rednecks/
"While the gun violence that accompanies the 2nd amendment is heartbreaking..."
The nongun violence in Australia that accompanies their rejection of a 2nd amendment (e.g. they voluntarily gave up their guns), that nongun violence is, IMO, even more heartbreaking, because there's NO good that comes from it. It is the proverbial ill wind that blows no good.
The 2nd Amendment in America blows plenty of good.
I do get your point, though - sometimes good things are used to commit terrible acts.
I support the 2nd amendment. I’m not even for gun control anymore (somehow there has never been an effort to curtail gang gun ownership, cartel gun ownership, etc, so I’m done supporting that). I’m just saying there is probably a trade-off, and I still land in the side of the 2nd amendment got it right for reasons I didn’t fully appreciate, much less fully embrace, until recently.
God created all men. Mr. Colt made them equal.
Here is a quote from the article to give you an idea
“Seriously, imagine if Ron DeSantis did an about-face and required everyone who shops at Publix to sign up for contact tracing. There would be riots. No, actually, there wouldn’t—because the good folks who work for Publix would refuse to comply. And if the CDC tried to bring out a Covid app like South Australia’s, they would be mooned by thousands upon thousands of Americans every 15 minutes.
When it comes to our civil liberties, the first line of defense is an old Marine with a Coors Light in one hand and a Remington 870 in the other. He’s got his mask pulled down over his chin and a Winston Red dangling from his lips. He has eight Trump stickers on the back of his truck and one that says “Booty Hunter” just to mix things up. He’s got the Confederate flag tattooed on his left arm and—of course—he’s wearing a MAGA hat.
This specter haunts Washington: the specter of Middle America. Call him Old Red.
Old Red looms over every meeting of the CDC, the FBI, the DHS, and the ATF.”
Remember when the police officers were kneeling on blm protests?
All these cops must be fired. They can never again be trusted to protect our rights.
Will we have many cops left?
Look at these goons, they are armed like a SWAT team! These are everyday officers, and we've militarized them beyond recognition as public servant peace officers into Stasi enforcers.
I'm no fan of defund the police, but I'm no longer a 'back the blue'. Until police officers stop "Just Following Orders" and tell their puppeteers "No More", they will only get resistance from me. They are completely co-opted.
I would take away all the cops paramilitary gear, make them wear soft yellow polos (Kevlar vest is OK underneath), kahki pants, one taser, one radio and one body cam. That's it.
The war n drugs did this for me.
Yes, bodily autonomy has never been respected in this country.
They seem to be able to spend much of their time harassing protesters, so perhaps we don't need that many.
There were several officers present on the subway platform the day that woman was pushed onto the tracks. They don't even try to prevent violent crime, they're just there to catch fare evaders and harass street musicians as a general rule.
Good thing they got rid of their guns for their own safety.
You should check out the Asch conformity experiment as well.
oh, i like that one mr yuri!
we've actually performed it.
for some reason, our teachers thought it was really important that we study stanford, milgram, and asch this year!
i wonder why?
Don’t forget Jane Elliot and blue eyes brown eyes
Aahhh... I remember that one. Blue-eyed people "bad"!
You misremember: it was brown-eyed people bad!
Ooops... sorry, you're right. Just looked it up.
lol! I was just kidding...it depended on the day!
https://youtu.be/X6kWygqR0L8
Conformity Waiting Room
“The lady walking ahead of me sped up so I did, she began running so I did, she screamed so I did. I never even saw what we were running from . . .”
That video is scary and funny all at the same time..... poor girl....
But I loved your quote.... LOL
When the whole flatten the curve thing started it really irritated me that there seemed to be such difficulty in ending it. I went all Braveheart but around me people were lying down and playing comrade. My search for conformity info quickly led to this video and I found the quote about the same time. People are still crazy after all this time.
Darn, the video was removed
Thanks! Fixed it. For now.
Oh yeah, thanks. I’ve seen this.
It was there this morning. I saved it back around April of ‘20 at the first signs of derailment of the brain trains. Wow.
Is it going to make me as angry as this one?
https://bit.ly/3fFRBPu
The Asch Conformity Experiments
By
Kendra Cherry
Updated on April 03, 2020
Another type of Milgram experiment…quite a while ago.
These things have been going on for thousands of years.
My personal favorite.
This is what happens when you give up your guns.
I'm not sure if kittengarten curriculum includes the detail that the "ethicists" are too busy conducting the experiment to monitor it.
Where did all the ethicists go?
The best ones have been fired.
A party at French Laundry. Or was it 10 Downing Street? 🤔
What if they actually are monitoring but choose to ignore? That seems more the case.
I live in the hell that is New York State. King Kathy Hochul, the unelected governor of New York State, issued a mask mandate for the entire New York state in December 2021. The edict on high with no input from the NYS Legislature nor from the slaves that live in New York State, requires:
Masks be worn in all indoor places, unless the business or venue requires proof of vaccination for entry
The useless overreach mandate was supposed to expire on January 15th, 2022.
King Kathy has extended the mask mandate until February 1, 2022. It will be extended again, and again and again...
Insane. Cruel. Evil.
No one bats an eye.
Hochul: "If you don't vaxx, you're not doing what Jesus wants."
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/yknow-what-conquers-coronavirus
Always a favorite!
"Fifteen days to flatten the curve". Little did we know they were referring to the bell curve of human freedoms, intellect and self determination.
To the attention of the Wuhan Lab:
Dear Sir or Madam,
Last week I got one of your products, I would say the best in your catalogue, namely SARS-COV-2. I was very attracted to it from the very beggining, but I have to admit that is was the commercials that finally pushed me to make the decision. My fav is the one with people dropping dead on the street. Excellent! So, honestly, I was expecting one hell of a ride.
But, the reality is very different at the moment. Just one day of fever and one night with a sore throat. And, apparently, the amusement is gone.
I expect some new features in the coming days. Otherwise, I will have to fill a complaint or something.
Sincerely yours.
🤣😺🤣 good one. I liked that one sooo much I shared it with several.... hope you don’t mind. I attributed it to you.
Hehe. Glad you liked it!
Can you even see yourself doing this? They could never make me do this to other people...how do they sleep at night...they know it's wrong at a human level yet they still persist.
How can they kick Novak out of the AO because he won't conform...how can the other players not drop out in protest of this massive misuse of their authority and bring it to bear on one HUMAN BEING...disgusting!
Some percentage of LEOs revel in this, became LEOs *because* it would give them the authority - or at least the power - over other people. It may be a small percentage, but a small percentage of a large number can still be a large number.
Of course several of the men's players won't drop out for career reasons. With Djokovic unable to compete they finally have a chance to finish in a higher rank.
Acquaintances from Australia are, historically, the most "liberal" of all people I know. Over the years, they've relished every opportunity to explain to me what was wrong with America, starting with the Second Amendment. They now regret giving up private ownership of guns. It's worth meditating on their experience.
They are learning that their practice of liberalism ends up in tyranny and giving up your individual rights is not a good idea. It will be interesting to see how it develops and whether or not they will continue to descend into tyrannical hell or be able to find some way to reverse what has already occurred.
Tyranny was always the goal. Tolerance was just a short term loss leader put in the display window.
"bossypants", lol
Word of the day.
I shall endeavor to employ it today. * remembers as she tyles that she has a drs appt later...hmm..*
My daughter's favorite is "crazypants."
Pretty much any noun/adjective combined with 'pants' is a winsome, yet effective, put-down. My dog, an overly sensitive and slightly high-strung lab-husky mix, is routinely referred to around here as "Mr. Candypants."
(I also have an 18-year-old gray mackerel tabby cat who has visibly had a paw in the grave for at least three years yet just keeps kicking canine ass and taking names. I think I'm going to have to rechristen him 'Keith Richards.')
It is easy to manipulate citizens into evil behavior when the government splits people into the "good" and the "bad" and institutionalizes discrimination of the "bad". I wrote more on this at https://digitaldollars.substack.com/p/stanford-prison-experiment-are-we
Gato, while this is totally off subject I found it soo sarcastically funny I thought you and your cats would appreciate: feel free to take this one and run with it:
Background is tragic (sorry to Tonga, prayers go with you, the sarcasm is directed at New Zealand.) Tonga was hit with natural disaster and New Zealand to send aid)
(Reuters, today, Jan 19, 22): “New Zealand said Tonga, one of the few countries to be free of the new coronavirus, had agreed to receive two of its ships, the Aotearoa and the Wellington, despite concerns about importing a COVID-19 outbreak that would exacerbate its crisis.”
See the irony?
It is now spelled New Xiland. :)
My heart goes out to the oppressed people of Australia that has returned to its prison colony roots.
Yes, they're oppressing white folks now too.
When I pass parents with their masked kids I make it a point to smile and wave at the kids, the biggest smile I can.
The experiment was obviously valid and the naysayers had an overzealous view of humanity. As JBP says, if they lived in pre-WW2, most people would have been Nazis. I think he specifies "you" but I think we've seen who would and would not have been a Nazi and it isn't anyone here.
i have always found the "but the experimenters egged the guards on" criticism to be pretty vapid.
based on every society i have ever seen, that makes it more, not less realistic.
it just shows you how ready humans are to be beastly to other humans if you give them a little authority and elevate othering to virtue.
I learned what lives in every human heart when I lived in a place where we had servants. Even the slightest power over another person's livelihood and thereby their life starts the worm of corruption on its putrid little way. I'm grateful I had at least the capacity to recognize that in myself and recoil from it...
I know they’d just counter with heavier tactics, but I wonder what would happen if a few people set themselves up as unmasked decoys while their club-wielding mates waited in ambush to greet the enforcers? Not advocating, of course, just wondering. It’s bound to happen eventually.
It may *have* to happen, eventually. You know the old saw, You can vote your way into tyranny...
My understanding of the time we’re in is that major violence associated with the West is the next big thing to happen.
So many classic social psychology studies still stand as essential reading. Zimbardo's work can't be replicated due to ethics rules of course, but would have been useful to understand nuances in further research, given we are all now in the full on planetary experiment with no informed consent or debriefing when it is over.
I visited Australia once and was quite disillusioned. I thought Aussies were like Merikans with an independent go F-yourself spirit. Nope. Very very conformist society. We actually had to go through a breathalyzer checkpoint setup on a road once. They were stopping everyone and everyone complied.
I sat on the beach once and watched Chinese container barges in an endless stream. Then I knew why Australia felt so icky to me. It is so close to China with a very close relationship (even more than the US).
Australia "me-too's" China hard in every way.
I have been thinking a lot about that experiment in these times...
The best word ever invented in the whole of human civilization is "no." No explanations, no elucidating, no modifying, no extrapolating, no bargaining, no conditionalization--just "no."
It's hard to stick to that one little syllable. "No, because..."
If you want to make their heads explode, JUST SAY NO.
Perhaps they should start handing out awards next to their oppressors and donate the money like this war criminal is doing to Holocaust education. As Bugs Bunny would say “Ironic ain’t it”!!
https://www.timesofisrael.com/pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-awarded-1-million-genesis-prize-for-2022/
I always kinda thought the Stanford Prison Experiment said more about academic culture than society at large. I guess, in hindsight, it just depends.
Seems like the real-world "testing" (duplication?) we have enjoyed, of both the Stanford Prison Experiment and the Milgram Experiments, places the ostensible criticisms of the conclusions of either in a different, and unfavorable, light. I admit that the criticisms, particularly of Milgram, were initially persuasive. However, it seems more and more like people are *exactly* as crappy as those experiments indicated, particularly when they acquire (undeserved?) power over their fellow man. Then again, pretty much every government in the history of governments has exemplified that truth!
Defund the police. BLM is right. I'll take my chances with thugs who are not on the Gov't payroll.
The Milgram experiment was very disturbing as well. People will litterally toture others just because an authority says "It's okay. Keep going".
Honestly they would have gotten more people to wear masks had they been optional.
Check out Milgram Experiment
Humans can be gutless wonders when there is a paycheck involved. They used to say insanity was the exception in individual humans but the rule in a mob. These insane public individuals send the police to start acting as a mob. Insanity times two.
Just imagine if they had based it on the Milgram experiment instead.
Reminds me of the line from the Dowager in Downton Abbey, you give these little people power, it goes straight to their heads like strong drink.
Reading comments, i think the worst of it has been the sheer magnitude of the deception, followed by the despots who cremated all human & civil rights (the corrupt judiciary & media) in their evil, dark, actions to force poision into the people..
Yes, these corrupt police look familiar, in fact i think they are the one's I saw on TV here in Oz a few months ago in Victoria & New South Wales. The same ones inciting crowds, generally breaking laws, harrassing, insulting people, shooting people with rubber bullets etc...
Australia, the former penal colon-y now being run by the penises and awholes!
Fauci Diaper;
-invented by the universe's sexiest octogenarian, Dr Wuhan Tony 'Snoopy' Fauci
-a Cough IT 1984 face mask that gives you 5 TIMES the protection of the beta light blue surgical masks defended and adorned by the brave and well-researched Slave Lemmings of the Covidopalypse.
-do the math dammit, 5 TIMES...........ZER0!!!!!
-most intriguing aspects of the Fauci Diaper are that before you take the Diaper fresh out of its package and attaching the Diaper to your face, the Fauci Diaper has the awe-inspiring distinction of already being full of SHIT!
These cops are (mis)using the same authority they've always had, and in similarly brilliant fashion, they just have new targets of enforcement now. So where are we at now? Back the Blue or ACAB?
Well, here is your peaceful visit, the other variety isn't allowed to be recorded. Note the Totally Dumb Ass Questions from the FIB. Do Not Talk to the FIB is the 100% advice from lawyers. Up to you.
https://ncrenegade.com/who-watches-the-watchers/
Back in the 1940s, we’d have gotten drafted and went there to rescue these people and stopped this type of regime…..ah, those were the days.
I don't like most Aussies anyway, so I think it’s kind of funny. Besides, It’s all self-inflicted.
I daresay some of us have been quite mean back.
Apologies to the times I held back
Where is the link to the new experiment, please?
http://www.bbcprisonstudy.org/index.php
I think I watched this on Netflix a few or a bunch of years ago. Eye-opening.
The Standford prison experiment was nothing more than a hoax conducted by a prison abolition activist.
He seems to have a mask on so it must be something he said…
1. The first picture, with the paper bag over the head, reminds me of something I watched months ago. I think it was Australia. Some COVID-positive persons getting off a bus with trash bags over their heads and tied around their necks with a string. To prevent transmission! Still, probably more effective than the vacshit.
2. The second picture is very descriptive since the mask they are forcing on her is USELESS. Again, more useful than the vacshit.
gato! i really do hope you screen your comment section!
i don't have the literary gift as you have so it's up to you to write a spy thriller which would revolve around the idea how omicron was also engineered in the lab by the good guys to stifle efforts of the vaccinators.
don't think too much, just go do it.
Covid Origins - Leaked documents show attempts to prevent Disease X may have CAUSED SARS-CoV-2
A summary of the latest damning evidence
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/covid-origins-leaked-documents-show
A scary failure, wasn't it? It reminds me of the opening to that old radio show The Shadow, "What evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow
knows."