Until the COVID-pocalypse, I strongly disfavored home-schooling as the province of--well--people I presumed had unfortunate belief systems. (And this as a public-school grad who knows everything she knows today only from a life-long addiction to books and still must count on her fingers...) I am somewhat humbled now.
I thought children needed the socialization a public-school setting provides, if nothing much else, because so many kids live in neighborhoods increasingly bereft of the community experience I had growing up in a borough of NY (lo these many many decades ago). Nah. Create small pods with likeminded parents and hire a spry grandma to oversee the kids doing their parent-curated lesson plan. While you run for school board member until you win...
Agree 1000%. Best not to forget that the strong philanthropist interest in public schooling in the 19th century wasn't for the cultivation of free thought in the populace but rather the molding of "good" i.e. well-regulated citizens who'd make good workers i.e. not innovative small-scale entrepreneurs...
We were born a rebellious people. And they've been trying to beat it out of us ever since...
interestingly enough, there was a MASSIVE short term collapse (referred to as a "bottleneck" in the genetic diversity of the y chromosome when humans settled down for agriculture.
i have long suspected this was the "culling" of the more independent minded males by the folks that wound up in charge.
they needed folks that would do as they were told and accept ideas like "this is all my land, and if you want to farm it, you must give me half your crop."
clearly, this is a complex and double edges issue for it's not clear that civilization beyond the small chimpanzee tribe is really possible without it.
but it does give one pause. the genetics of a human are far more similar to a domesticated animal than a wild one.
it's quite possible we were eugenically bred to it. (though there is a selection argument around cooperation that could easily be made as well)
Never considered the domestication of humans before. Sure I understand how agriculture changed everything and how humans domesticated animals but never considered how we domesticated ourselves in the process.
There's a reason for all those petty-fiefdom wars all the time. You gotta get rid of that excess testosterone somehow. You don't want none o' them Hans Kolhase-types runnin' around and ruining the civility...
After I retired from full-time employment, I got a seasonal job working as a tour guide in a children's farm in NYC serving upwards of 4,000 daily visitors, mostly public school kids overwhelmingly from poor communities. That's how I learned that our urban school system is just a gangster factory. The pre-school- and kindergarten-aged black kids were delightful--enthusiastic, thinking every adult was their friend, asking wonderful questions--and by third grade they'd learned that most of what came out of grownups' mouths was best ignored. That no one gave a damn about them and they were on their own. When you see that day after day for twelve or more seasons, trust me--it's not anecdotal, it's data. And it wasn't white teachers doing it to them (those teachers were just morons) but the ones supposedly necessary to prevent, you know, spirit murder...
41 years in public schools. There are hovercraft parents who genuinely want more than the best for their kids and there are adults and kids living in the same home (can't use the term parent in this situation)- very little middle ground! I have to add that the only time I saw real prejudice and discrimination were the kids who attended school and had already been told by people at home that everyone in schools is racist. ("you don't like me because I am black")- out of nowhere in a group setting one day. hmmm....public education has been the first and last place where everyone gets a fair chance (and can ask for do-overs most of the time). Sadly this too is changing.
I think the Oregon public schools have some "diversity equity" etc. training resources for staff and teachers insisting that white teachers perform "spirit murder" of black and minority children.
Having seen for myself--over and over--how some black NYC public school teachers treat little black boys, I'm afraid I tend to disagree with that pedagogical declaration. Good teachers are good, bad ones are dreadful for the future of children. But there is of course no substitute for good parents (and even functionally illiterate ones can "read" picture books to their toddlers). And look--I had dreadful parents myself. I'm from lower middle class people and grew up in a lovely neighborhood, and my mother never stopped remarking, throughout my adulthood, that I'd have more money now if I hadn't spent so much on books...I was lucky to have had enough brains and natural language skills to make my way in the world reasonably successfully. Too many children have everything against them and no refuge against it.
Daughter works with the "throw aways"- her stories about them break my heart. The behavioral facility does wonderful things for these kids-the staff for the most part is wonderful. Covid restrictions, especially the stupid "quarantine if you have been exposed at school" is doing NOTHING to help their mental health (that they are being SEEN for btw-makes my head hurt!) I have witnessed so many parents just sign their kids over to the state and abandon them. How can one ever find trust and love after that?
Wow. As Mister Rogers used to say, "you learn something old every day." Oregon is a lovely state, but that's the only positive thing I can say about it based on what I read and see. You are 100% correct that there is no substitute for good parents, including fathers. I grew up without one due to abandonment. I can identify w/the dreadful parents comment! Being a survivor (and not a victim) is a gift, but it is also a choice.
My public school volunteering was helping children with reading skills and in some cases teaching them how to read. I had some lovely children, it was the teachers I couldn't stand! The experience set in stone my belief that government schools are not there to educate children, but to indoctrinate them. It's an especially poor substitute for parents who have abdicated their role in training their children.
John Taylor Gatto (sorry, didn't look at the spelling, obviously no relation to you 😸) wrote Dumbing Us Down - the hidden curriculum of compulsory schooling, and The Underground History of American Education. He was an award winning teacher in NY public schools. His work is popular among homeschoolers and other non-government school proponents.
Far too many parents--as I was--are entirely dependent on the childminding main purpose of schooling now that almost all of us must be two-earner households. For elementary school I had my kid in a "prestigious" but academically mostly useless private school that provided aftercare too, stretching close to 6:30 p.m. From kindergarten he had an adult schedule, really, between drop-off and pick-up. If I could have afforded to stay home I would have; I did for middle school onward (for complicated reasons) and the financial sacrifice (and ensuing destruction of my marriage) were worth it to be there for my kid (yes, even the big ones need you to be not exhausted or already in bed when they're ready to talk about their lives). Women don't need childcare as much as they need a system that ensures they have social security benefits for retirement if they choose to stay home and raise their children so they don't end up dependent on the vicissitudes of marriage to keep them from starvation in their golden years.
And now imagine how much better it would be for the future of personal liberty if every kid got a self-directed education instead of authoritarian lesson plans. Constant submission to arbitrary authority in the first two decades of life can't help in the formation of a freedom-loving culture, can it?
The successful Sudbury school model of self-directed education shows that, if given the chance, children will be internally motivated to learn their reading, writing, arithmetic, and many other subjects. Wherever personal freedom is workable, it is a moral necessity. #YouthRights
I think this is not true, large-scale. Many people require structure as at least a base framework --even if to begin to develop their own opposing viewpoint and to begin to discard ideas they find to be untrue, irrelevant or useless as they mature. There is no perfect system and all systems get hijacked by power struggles; that's inherent in being alive. Brain-eating parasites, real and metaphoric, are everywhere.
I've always despised and been awful at math but even I concede it's been helpful to know how to count. Self-directed schooling would have left me even more bereft of some useful skills.
Facts are stubborn things. The fact is that the Sudbury Valley School has been in continuous operation since 1968. If its students turned out dumb, unproductive, or unhappy, that school and its imitators around the world would have gone out of business long ago. And when you rationalize a need for authoritarian schooling, you enable the oppression of young people and thereby teach the next generation to resign themselves to tyranny. No wonder that 2020 happened!
"Self-directed schooling would have left me even more bereft of some useful skills." Don't sell yourself short. In the strict sense, you taught yourself everything you have ever learned. Frankly, I detect a bit of Stockholm syndrome when people thank their whip-cracking teachers.
No. I had to discover for myself what was important to rebel against, and I was a highly-resistant student by HS. I dropped out of (nearly free public) college a couple of times until I realized they had nothing to teach me that I needed to learn from them.
The endurance of a school only means its culture continues to attract customers, regardless of its real-world value. (See "prestigious prep schools" and the generations of morons they produce. It's the reinforcing of the power of the networks in many or most cases).
But a school on the Sudbury model would have been my utter ruination.
I continue even into the full flowering of my mature years to hate my fifth grade teacher and I learned through having her only the moral triumph of being bloody but unbowed.
In California, we have started a Statewide Petition to put on the ballot, that the approx $14,000 per child per year The State gets, follows the child, not for any specific school or learning institution. The parents will decide where to spend that money at the learning institution of their choice. And we are gathering a lot of signatures and we’re barely a month in!
http://www.californiaschoolchoice.org/ You have to sign a paper petition…it is not online. The paper petitions with the signatures have to be summited by March 2022 to the Secretary of State of CA for signature verification to get on the ballot.
Look up the NYC School Teachers' Strike of 1968 leading to school board decentralization. Thus began the descent into astoundingly unqualified teachers and their effect on minority schoolchildren.
Unfortunately there's no perfect, or decent and durable, solution to these problems because of, you know, human nature. The corrupt always drive out the well-meaning. Everywhere, in all times, in all places. This is a never-ending struggle.
AU here. We'd love a $20K annual tax break for our 2 kids who are now being home schooled! But the only way we got $20K was for me to take $20K out of my Superannuation Fund (retirement $) the other year due to me not earning as much because of covid! Yep. The government is really helping us out - by ourselves helping...ourselves! It's just so very equitable, isn't it? They print money, the schools get to keep it, and we have to teach our own kids as well as foot the bill if we want our kids and us to have a future...! Welcome to the New World!!
So sorry for you in Australia! I think so many Americans viewed it as an alternative place to live if things got intolerable here. For those paying attention, that idea has evaporated.
Hilariously, the USA doesn't seem too bad to me these days! I like your food labelling, ha ha! I'd need to pick which State I moved to, of course, but really - is there ANY good place to live right now?
It's not been easy for people all over the world, but Australia really IS the stupid country. We allow ourselves to not just be the dogs of war but we allow our politicians to run rampant and we barely ever hold them to account!
All things considered, I've been a very lucky (or sensible) one the last 20 months: I am one of the few professions where there has not been a state public health order mandating the covid injection for me (not that I'd take it anyway), I have been able to get by not owning or wearing a mask this whole time (although post offices have been the worst places for people getting cranky at me for this! So I now send all my packages to my workplace or pick them up at the side gate before opening time or get a friend to pick them up for me - and I get a friend to send any packages, too, or we organise it all online. I check my PO Box after hours, too). So just a few changes there. I don't sign in anywhere anymore (or when I did, it was always a fake name & number). I've also been able to do online shopping & have things delivered to my workplace. I've done online (boot collect) food shopping from the grocery store because I didn't want to deal with confrontation every time I bought food (but I'm back shopping in-store now with no mask & not signing in and no-one cares!).
Our kids get to go to the park, but other amusements centres are closed - or you can only be accompanied by a fully jabbed & masked adult! We have a large enough property and lots of stuff for them to do at home, and they have friends over, and they're now home schooled, so it's not so bad, but it's not ideal.
Some high schools now require kids to be jabbed for them to attend the place, and state high school require mask wearing for all students, and it's 'strongly encouraged' for state primary students to mask up! RMIT University in Melbourne has just required ALL students to be double jabbed or have an exemption (sure, sure, where can you get those anymore? The Drs that give them are being systematically pulled off the Register and having their clinics raided).
If you're unvaccinated and want to eat out? Unless it's take away where you wait on the street, forget it. Maybe in my state, NSW, you can do sit-down meals from December some time, once 95% of people over 16 are double dosed!! 95%!! Wow.
Some of our state borders are STILL closed and they'll require double covid doses as well as testing before you're allowed over the border. And ANY plane flight requires covid testing in Australia, and if you want to travel overseas, you've gotta be double jabbed. Oh, and if you're an AU citizen trying to return to Oz but you're not jabbed? The AU Federal govt is only taking a small handful (like less than 25 per flight).
And then we have BOOSTERS being rolled out. So far it's for the 'immunocompromised'...but Dictator Dan in Victoria has said that it'll be boosters all the way if you want to remain 'vaccinated' and have access to pretty well anything more than the grocery store!
So yeah, it sucks big time. But there ARE ways around it if you're flexible on a lot of fronts, willing to stand up for your rights (but still risking [illegally] issued fines) and don't want much of a social life.
FL has one of the largest voucher programs in the nation and is being expanded. For those who do not qualify (FL may pay for homeschool tuition) begin forming pods of homeschoolers.
Maybe we should be careful here. One any entity receives tax dollars, they can be controlled and coerced by federal standards. I'm ok with just being left alone to educate my children as I see fit, free from government interference.
Glad you've seen the light, so to speak. 😊 It's interesting for me to observe as a homeschool veteran how people who were formerly very critical and unsupportive of it have come around. People homeschool for all kinds of reasons, not just religious ones. My husband and I are children of public school educators as well as products of public education - both in our 60s. I'm thankful our son didn't have to endure the kind of "socialization" crap we did. Does anyone need locker room comparisons?? I learned more while homeschooling than I did in all the years of "schooling" including finding history fascinating. Not a surprise based on how it was taught when we were "educated." We had no support from my husband's family of origin, criticism and the typical snide homeschooling tropes. I don't mind bragging that our son is the only one of his unmarried older and younger cousins (7), who has had a well paying job and owns his own home right out of college. The public educated others are still trying to find their way.
I agree completely with Gato about education tax money following the child.
By the time I graduated with my degree to teach, I was completely disillusioned with the public school system. I learned about something called "home education" when I was pregnant with our first child. Now our youngest of ten children is 17 and getting ready to graduate high school, and we all joke that we'll soon be planning my graduation. However, I've learned with my children as they've learned, and to this day enjoy an amazing relationship with ten of the most wonderful people on the planet. They are independent thinkers, who are not swayed by peer pressure, and love a good well reasoned debate. Some of them are gifted artists, others are talented musicians. Our youngest son is carrying 20 units a semester as a violin performance and political sci major....with a 4.0, three jobs and an active social life at his private college. Our son who teaches science in a public high school has said the greatest gifts we gave him were a love of learning and the freedom to challenge. He has said his children will be home educated, especially after what he's seen in the school system. I am grateful for those of you who are rethinking your previous opinions on those of us who chose to educate our children at home. It was a sacrifice but oh, so very worth every moment!
Congratulations on your upcoming graduation with honors! I hope you have something planned for afterwards. I know when we left our only child at college and I was currently disabled with a serious injury, I felt like my life was over. How much more intense that could be after pouring your life into ten children! I too am grateful to read those who have changed their minds about homeschooling.
Thank you! I'm blessed to have a number of younger moms in my life to encourage and love, so my future continues to looks very busy and profitable, with lots of little people to enjoy! ;)
"Until the COVID-pocalypse, I strongly disfavored... " fill in blank here, I think we all have some of this SCA! For me, conspiracy theorists, anti vaxxers, and NRA members. Boy am I humbled, boy were they right!
Thank you. Pre-COVID, i was a homeschooling parent, former-vaxxer, alternative-lifestyler. It is comforting to know that, at least some people don’t think I’m crazy anymore. Although it was nice flying under the radar with my views back then….
A few years ago I moved from a major urban area in a blue state to a small largely liberal area in a red one, and I thank God for it. I've also lived for varying periods of time in an extremely conservative mostly uneducated South Asian country (as a private citizen and not part of any expat professional class) and was fortunate to make strong loving friendships with local people, some very poor. Life experience does stuff to ya...
Yeah, we fight that 'socialization' thing all the time. My response is that I don't really want my children to be socialized into the garbage that is the public school system and our cultural morass, thank you. I can socialize them just fine.
And one of the best outcomes of the homeschool version of "socialization" is that our children learn to relate to all age groups, not just their peers. Growing up, our son always impressed everyone with his politeness and level of engagement. Even as adults now, most of his government school cousins don't seem able to engage with us. Very sad.
I've had the privilege of knowing and working with many home-schooled people. They are the finest, most well adjusted and wise young people I've ever been around. I've spent the last 40 years unlearning everything I "learned" in public indoctrination camp in much the same way you did. Books, lectures (from knowledgeable people *I* wanted to listen to) etc. And things weren't even that bad when I went to "school". We are living proof that it's never too late. :)
On Dennis Prager's show he has often taken calls from children and young adults. The ones I have heard are without exception intelligent, thoughtful, articulate, and call to express very intelligent ideas. At some point Prager will inevitably ask them "Were you home schooled?", and the answer is always "yes."
A challenge I faced--and many others must too--is that both my neighborhood and my mother's--where my kid spent a lot of time--were overwhelmingly elderly. Very few kids. Direct opposite of how I grew up. Hardly anyone for my kid to run around with and have normal kid experiences. So a school environment was essential just to be around peers! And he formed durable friendships that have endured into adulthood.
So many obstacles in trying to do right by one's children. Fortunately I've been rebellious all my life so there was always a counterpoint at home to whatever was floated at school.
Originally, public schools were created to elevate the population of the country. Since the 1960s, they have become centers of indoctrination. The government and extra-governmental forces use the public schools to condition and control the population. We can't have anyone thinking the wrong thoughts or believing the wrong things.
To use some tiresome lingo for my own purposes--seems like the neurodiverse (inc. Zuckerberg, Gates et al) are doing a heck of a job dragging the universe of the neurotypical straight down to hell.
Gates strikes me as someone who has had everything handed to him including his parents eugenics. That includes Microsoft. The idea that he's a whizz kid mogul is a ridiculous one, the guy is an idiot, a murderous idiot.
It's not that he's a wiz-kid mogul; it's that his products were designed by people whose brains don't work the way the majority of people's brains work. Fifteen "elegant" steps to create a document that any reasonable person with a typewriter would create in two. Game-playing because they can rather than practical performance for the rest of us.
I'm not a tech person. I use computer programs only as they are useful to me. From the time I was forced to begin using them (at work), I was astounded by how ridiculous the number of steps required to type a simple letter was.
The destruction of simplicity and the imposition of technology on basic learning for children has--and I don't exaggerate--shocked me. Programs to teach infants to read? How about a parent's lap and an adult hand holding Goodnight Moon? God help this generation.
It takes a lot more courage to not wear a mask and stand up to those actually stealing your childhood than it does to speak to a bunch of "friendlies" about how they're "stealing your childhood."
I understand why "purebloods" like me dig DeSantas... but, I don't trust him at all (and no, I'm not into politics - never voted in my life). If you read all the anti-mask and anti-vaccine "things" he passes, they include very draconian mandates against the unvaxxed as well. The guy who does "The Quash Podcast" details it here: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-quash/will-floridas-law-banning-iIzCEsgPNJo/
I don’t necessarily disagree that we should have a healthy level of skepticism for anyone that chooses politics as their profession. A certain amount of slime is necessary to be successful in this realm. I also believe, however, that we have to meet the world where it is and not where we wish it was. I have a hard time finding a lot of fault with DeSantis. I think he has handled the Branch Covidian Uprising better than most other executives and that is worth a lot to me. I never thought I would be looking at Sweden and Florida as pockets of sanity in an insane world, but here we are.
And a Capone dictator like Luka in Belarus LOL. Nicaragua also had no masks and minimal if any restrictions. Seems to work good. Maybe we should try that early treatment thingy?
Also the return of common sense - if it can return - and the willingness of people to understand how truly miniscule the risk is for moderately healthy people going about normal pre-covid lives. The propaganda machine needs somehow to fail in the eyes of those under its thrall.
The government should have obliged Merck to produce Ivermectin instead of sponsoring untested new meds, that don't work. India proves that Ivermectin does.
No one should be putting the totality of their trust into another human being. This is where the duty of the citizen comes into play. Be vigilant, be active and never let your guard down.
Markus - this is strike 2 for you! First you threw an attorney under the bus because of his profession without considering what actions he was actually taking, now you admit to all of us that you don't vote? Ai-yi-yi. Please vote next November. And in any of the small elections in your community between now and then.
My not voting is a vote. In fact, I'd argue it's a more important vote. I'm voting that I'm not going to be fooled, and I'm not going to waste countless hours in the fraud. Our votes don't count - period. If our vote truly counted, our true rulers (the banksters) would deem it illegal. And I never forget that "President" George Bush was selected by just one person - a judge in Florida back in the year 2000: https://www.history.com/news/2000-election-bush-gore-votes-supreme-court
It’s really the core we should focus on, central banking being at the heart along with media, tech and the military. Catherine Austin Fitts has a great discussion of how to fight this, leaving politics out. One thing to do is move your money from a central banking bank to a small local bank.
That is true. But he and Paul stood up against the craze. I would have liked him stand up against Fauci but don't think he did. Always remember though, you CAN NOT trust politicians. They will say one thing this day and tomorrow turn around.
I've been saying this for over a year - DeSantis is a honeypot... so is the governor of Texas. They will suck people into Florida and Texas - and then pull the rug out from under everyone. The banksters rule the world. The banksters would NEVER let DeSantis be the pureblood champion on his own. DeSantis is the wolf in sheep's clothing. Just watch. I've seen this scenario play out all my life. For example: look at the Virginia race that was recently won by a republican. People are celebrating, yet Youngkin is as deep in the swamp as you can get... and I quote: "He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Council, and the American Enterprise Institute’s National Council." Source: https://wealthyspy.com/glenn-youngkin/
I totally agree. That is what politicians are. They attract with one hand and hold a knife in the other. Right now DeSantis is pleasing the people who want their freedom back. But will he turn into a tyrant the next day ? Without a doubt.
Just below is a comment that reads, "One of my many heroes throughout this darkness." Uggg. The banksters are still winning. I hope I live long enough to see them lose.
There are those of us who no longer subscribe to the political farce that is voting. The system that voting enables is broken. I walked away after I witnessed the corruption of the 2012 RNC process. And once I learned about the NAP and voluntaryism, I came to regret my earlier participation in the system.
Become an uncommon man or woman. Then work - as relentlessly as the destroyers do - to shape policy to align with the individual liberty, opportunity, and responsibility our forefathers envisioned and sought to guarantee through the Constitution. And put up and support leaders who most closely align with those values - maybe even yourself if you have a strong belief system. That requires finding and teaming up with like-minded people and putting in effort and being brave, rather than waiting to see what dump and outhouse is offered up.
It's a lot to commit to, but if folks decide they are powerless, then they are, indeed, powerless.
With all due respect, everyone takes whatever is laid before them. We don't get an actual choice in elections. All leaders are pre-selected for you. Voting only enables this process and signifies consent to be ruled. I will not be a party to that.
I'd like to hear your informed analysis of the outcomes of two recent races: McAuliffe/Youngkin governor's race in Virginia, and Sweeney/Durr state senate race in New Jersey.
This never made any sense to me. Seems logical that the only people who can't complain are the people who actually voted for the idiot in office. What's the difference between me voting for Gary Johnson or Mickey Mouse or staying home? The 'leaders' will ignore me all the same.
Wait. Im confused. China United Front asset "Dr. Eric Finkle Dink" (I don't know his real name but those who know will know) and CNN's favorite Chinese doctor, Leana Wen, said that children were the new Covid vectors, and that Delta was KILLING THEM! So, how is this girl, unmasked, even alive? And how did she not spread Covid to hundreds of kids in her class, killing them all, and their 21 gendered teachers? Can someone explain this to me, please? I mean, at least dozens should have been sent to the hospital with Covid in her school...
I took my wife to the airport to fly to see our son, I laughed at the number of people who were wearing a mask with it pulled down to below their nose. I was waiting for someone to cause a scene, with my phone at the ready.
Governor DeSantis treats this child with respect and recognizes her strength. President Mash Potato Brain Brandon on the other hand... well watch the video: https://newtube.app/TonyHeller/k3BOaqb
I didn't wear a mask the other day here in Wales, UK. Can I get called to the governor's office to meet Ron? We could do with thousands more like him in the world.
Ron Desantis is the best international Governor of New England States, Vermont, Minnesota, California, Iceland, Germany, Singapore, New Zealand, Gibraltar. Truly the global leader.
just loving this.....we have to keep pushing and fighting, scratching and clawing (c'mon kitties, help us out!) and screaming and kicking until this tyranny ends.
Until the COVID-pocalypse, I strongly disfavored home-schooling as the province of--well--people I presumed had unfortunate belief systems. (And this as a public-school grad who knows everything she knows today only from a life-long addiction to books and still must count on her fingers...) I am somewhat humbled now.
I thought children needed the socialization a public-school setting provides, if nothing much else, because so many kids live in neighborhoods increasingly bereft of the community experience I had growing up in a borough of NY (lo these many many decades ago). Nah. Create small pods with likeminded parents and hire a spry grandma to oversee the kids doing their parent-curated lesson plan. While you run for school board member until you win...
now imagine how well that would work if every kid got the tax money allocated to public schools to spend as they wish.
schools are not too important to be left to the free market, they are too important not to be.
Agree 1000%. Best not to forget that the strong philanthropist interest in public schooling in the 19th century wasn't for the cultivation of free thought in the populace but rather the molding of "good" i.e. well-regulated citizens who'd make good workers i.e. not innovative small-scale entrepreneurs...
We were born a rebellious people. And they've been trying to beat it out of us ever since...
interestingly enough, there was a MASSIVE short term collapse (referred to as a "bottleneck" in the genetic diversity of the y chromosome when humans settled down for agriculture.
i have long suspected this was the "culling" of the more independent minded males by the folks that wound up in charge.
they needed folks that would do as they were told and accept ideas like "this is all my land, and if you want to farm it, you must give me half your crop."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC4381518/
clearly, this is a complex and double edges issue for it's not clear that civilization beyond the small chimpanzee tribe is really possible without it.
but it does give one pause. the genetics of a human are far more similar to a domesticated animal than a wild one.
it's quite possible we were eugenically bred to it. (though there is a selection argument around cooperation that could easily be made as well)
Never considered the domestication of humans before. Sure I understand how agriculture changed everything and how humans domesticated animals but never considered how we domesticated ourselves in the process.
There's a reason for all those petty-fiefdom wars all the time. You gotta get rid of that excess testosterone somehow. You don't want none o' them Hans Kolhase-types runnin' around and ruining the civility...
https://plandemicseries.com/plandemic-english-subtitles/
After I retired from full-time employment, I got a seasonal job working as a tour guide in a children's farm in NYC serving upwards of 4,000 daily visitors, mostly public school kids overwhelmingly from poor communities. That's how I learned that our urban school system is just a gangster factory. The pre-school- and kindergarten-aged black kids were delightful--enthusiastic, thinking every adult was their friend, asking wonderful questions--and by third grade they'd learned that most of what came out of grownups' mouths was best ignored. That no one gave a damn about them and they were on their own. When you see that day after day for twelve or more seasons, trust me--it's not anecdotal, it's data. And it wasn't white teachers doing it to them (those teachers were just morons) but the ones supposedly necessary to prevent, you know, spirit murder...
41 years in public schools. There are hovercraft parents who genuinely want more than the best for their kids and there are adults and kids living in the same home (can't use the term parent in this situation)- very little middle ground! I have to add that the only time I saw real prejudice and discrimination were the kids who attended school and had already been told by people at home that everyone in schools is racist. ("you don't like me because I am black")- out of nowhere in a group setting one day. hmmm....public education has been the first and last place where everyone gets a fair chance (and can ask for do-overs most of the time). Sadly this too is changing.
Can you explain what you mean by the last sentence? I've had similar experiences volunteering (post-homeschooling) in a public school.
I think the Oregon public schools have some "diversity equity" etc. training resources for staff and teachers insisting that white teachers perform "spirit murder" of black and minority children.
Having seen for myself--over and over--how some black NYC public school teachers treat little black boys, I'm afraid I tend to disagree with that pedagogical declaration. Good teachers are good, bad ones are dreadful for the future of children. But there is of course no substitute for good parents (and even functionally illiterate ones can "read" picture books to their toddlers). And look--I had dreadful parents myself. I'm from lower middle class people and grew up in a lovely neighborhood, and my mother never stopped remarking, throughout my adulthood, that I'd have more money now if I hadn't spent so much on books...I was lucky to have had enough brains and natural language skills to make my way in the world reasonably successfully. Too many children have everything against them and no refuge against it.
Daughter works with the "throw aways"- her stories about them break my heart. The behavioral facility does wonderful things for these kids-the staff for the most part is wonderful. Covid restrictions, especially the stupid "quarantine if you have been exposed at school" is doing NOTHING to help their mental health (that they are being SEEN for btw-makes my head hurt!) I have witnessed so many parents just sign their kids over to the state and abandon them. How can one ever find trust and love after that?
Wow. As Mister Rogers used to say, "you learn something old every day." Oregon is a lovely state, but that's the only positive thing I can say about it based on what I read and see. You are 100% correct that there is no substitute for good parents, including fathers. I grew up without one due to abandonment. I can identify w/the dreadful parents comment! Being a survivor (and not a victim) is a gift, but it is also a choice.
My public school volunteering was helping children with reading skills and in some cases teaching them how to read. I had some lovely children, it was the teachers I couldn't stand! The experience set in stone my belief that government schools are not there to educate children, but to indoctrinate them. It's an especially poor substitute for parents who have abdicated their role in training their children.
Sounds like you've been reading John Taylor Gato. Spot on!
at the risk of sounding contrary, who is john taylor what has he written?
John Taylor Gatto (sorry, didn't look at the spelling, obviously no relation to you 😸) wrote Dumbing Us Down - the hidden curriculum of compulsory schooling, and The Underground History of American Education. He was an award winning teacher in NY public schools. His work is popular among homeschoolers and other non-government school proponents.
Here's his magnum opus:
https://archive.org/details/JohnTaylorGattoTheUndergroundHistoryOfAmericanEducationBook
My work here is done
This was my excellent introduction to Gatto, cofifying all my suspicions about what was wrong with my schooling:
https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~abatko/interests/teaching/essays/Against_Schools/
His books are life changing. He was NYC teacher of the year in 1990. Here is his acceptance speech https://www.naturalchild.org/articles/guest/john_gatto.html
"The Six Purposes of Schooling" - John Taylor Gatto https://youtu.be/eP98ZKt709A
"Examples of Educated People" - John Taylor Gatto on CSPAN https://youtu.be/WpycMRTBrfY
Guynoir shared a link to an article Gatto wrote referencing the same Inglis purposes of schooling. Nice to know there are people reading this stuff!
"Dumbing Us Down" is perhaps his best known. Basic philosophy that guided us 1980s homeschooling rebels.
Far too many parents--as I was--are entirely dependent on the childminding main purpose of schooling now that almost all of us must be two-earner households. For elementary school I had my kid in a "prestigious" but academically mostly useless private school that provided aftercare too, stretching close to 6:30 p.m. From kindergarten he had an adult schedule, really, between drop-off and pick-up. If I could have afforded to stay home I would have; I did for middle school onward (for complicated reasons) and the financial sacrifice (and ensuing destruction of my marriage) were worth it to be there for my kid (yes, even the big ones need you to be not exhausted or already in bed when they're ready to talk about their lives). Women don't need childcare as much as they need a system that ensures they have social security benefits for retirement if they choose to stay home and raise their children so they don't end up dependent on the vicissitudes of marriage to keep them from starvation in their golden years.
Everything I ever learned (of value) I learned from direct experience. There's nothing like life to larn ya some!
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And now imagine how much better it would be for the future of personal liberty if every kid got a self-directed education instead of authoritarian lesson plans. Constant submission to arbitrary authority in the first two decades of life can't help in the formation of a freedom-loving culture, can it?
The successful Sudbury school model of self-directed education shows that, if given the chance, children will be internally motivated to learn their reading, writing, arithmetic, and many other subjects. Wherever personal freedom is workable, it is a moral necessity. #YouthRights
https://www.self-directed.org/sde/
The United States was regarded as the most learned nation of the world prior to the introduction of compulsory public education.
I think this is not true, large-scale. Many people require structure as at least a base framework --even if to begin to develop their own opposing viewpoint and to begin to discard ideas they find to be untrue, irrelevant or useless as they mature. There is no perfect system and all systems get hijacked by power struggles; that's inherent in being alive. Brain-eating parasites, real and metaphoric, are everywhere.
I've always despised and been awful at math but even I concede it's been helpful to know how to count. Self-directed schooling would have left me even more bereft of some useful skills.
Facts are stubborn things. The fact is that the Sudbury Valley School has been in continuous operation since 1968. If its students turned out dumb, unproductive, or unhappy, that school and its imitators around the world would have gone out of business long ago. And when you rationalize a need for authoritarian schooling, you enable the oppression of young people and thereby teach the next generation to resign themselves to tyranny. No wonder that 2020 happened!
"Self-directed schooling would have left me even more bereft of some useful skills." Don't sell yourself short. In the strict sense, you taught yourself everything you have ever learned. Frankly, I detect a bit of Stockholm syndrome when people thank their whip-cracking teachers.
No. I had to discover for myself what was important to rebel against, and I was a highly-resistant student by HS. I dropped out of (nearly free public) college a couple of times until I realized they had nothing to teach me that I needed to learn from them.
The endurance of a school only means its culture continues to attract customers, regardless of its real-world value. (See "prestigious prep schools" and the generations of morons they produce. It's the reinforcing of the power of the networks in many or most cases).
But a school on the Sudbury model would have been my utter ruination.
I continue even into the full flowering of my mature years to hate my fifth grade teacher and I learned through having her only the moral triumph of being bloody but unbowed.
In California, we have started a Statewide Petition to put on the ballot, that the approx $14,000 per child per year The State gets, follows the child, not for any specific school or learning institution. The parents will decide where to spend that money at the learning institution of their choice. And we are gathering a lot of signatures and we’re barely a month in!
Sign the petitions. I am collecting them too. There will be lots of people collecting signatures on Black Friday.
Hi El…Frontera Lupita is my handle here on Substack it’s me Christine!😉
Could you give us a link to the petition? I'd like to sign and share!
www.californiaschoolchoice.org
You have to sign a paper petition. It is not available online.
thank you!
I’m in CA. Where can I sign?!
I’ll find out…my good friend is circulating them and she knows where to hook up with a petition!
http://www.californiaschoolchoice.org/ You have to sign a paper petition…it is not online. The paper petitions with the signatures have to be summited by March 2022 to the Secretary of State of CA for signature verification to get on the ballot.
The same thing has been proposed for libraries. It's a descent into information hoarding by the rich.
I propose instead that schools are run by communities. The State has proved indeed to be malicious.
Look up the NYC School Teachers' Strike of 1968 leading to school board decentralization. Thus began the descent into astoundingly unqualified teachers and their effect on minority schoolchildren.
Unfortunately there's no perfect, or decent and durable, solution to these problems because of, you know, human nature. The corrupt always drive out the well-meaning. Everywhere, in all times, in all places. This is a never-ending struggle.
And they're a minority, in most cases.
The neighborhood free library boxes are a small way to avoid government hoarding of information sources.
AU here. We'd love a $20K annual tax break for our 2 kids who are now being home schooled! But the only way we got $20K was for me to take $20K out of my Superannuation Fund (retirement $) the other year due to me not earning as much because of covid! Yep. The government is really helping us out - by ourselves helping...ourselves! It's just so very equitable, isn't it? They print money, the schools get to keep it, and we have to teach our own kids as well as foot the bill if we want our kids and us to have a future...! Welcome to the New World!!
So sorry for you in Australia! I think so many Americans viewed it as an alternative place to live if things got intolerable here. For those paying attention, that idea has evaporated.
Hilariously, the USA doesn't seem too bad to me these days! I like your food labelling, ha ha! I'd need to pick which State I moved to, of course, but really - is there ANY good place to live right now?
It's not been easy for people all over the world, but Australia really IS the stupid country. We allow ourselves to not just be the dogs of war but we allow our politicians to run rampant and we barely ever hold them to account!
All things considered, I've been a very lucky (or sensible) one the last 20 months: I am one of the few professions where there has not been a state public health order mandating the covid injection for me (not that I'd take it anyway), I have been able to get by not owning or wearing a mask this whole time (although post offices have been the worst places for people getting cranky at me for this! So I now send all my packages to my workplace or pick them up at the side gate before opening time or get a friend to pick them up for me - and I get a friend to send any packages, too, or we organise it all online. I check my PO Box after hours, too). So just a few changes there. I don't sign in anywhere anymore (or when I did, it was always a fake name & number). I've also been able to do online shopping & have things delivered to my workplace. I've done online (boot collect) food shopping from the grocery store because I didn't want to deal with confrontation every time I bought food (but I'm back shopping in-store now with no mask & not signing in and no-one cares!).
Our kids get to go to the park, but other amusements centres are closed - or you can only be accompanied by a fully jabbed & masked adult! We have a large enough property and lots of stuff for them to do at home, and they have friends over, and they're now home schooled, so it's not so bad, but it's not ideal.
Some high schools now require kids to be jabbed for them to attend the place, and state high school require mask wearing for all students, and it's 'strongly encouraged' for state primary students to mask up! RMIT University in Melbourne has just required ALL students to be double jabbed or have an exemption (sure, sure, where can you get those anymore? The Drs that give them are being systematically pulled off the Register and having their clinics raided).
If you're unvaccinated and want to eat out? Unless it's take away where you wait on the street, forget it. Maybe in my state, NSW, you can do sit-down meals from December some time, once 95% of people over 16 are double dosed!! 95%!! Wow.
Some of our state borders are STILL closed and they'll require double covid doses as well as testing before you're allowed over the border. And ANY plane flight requires covid testing in Australia, and if you want to travel overseas, you've gotta be double jabbed. Oh, and if you're an AU citizen trying to return to Oz but you're not jabbed? The AU Federal govt is only taking a small handful (like less than 25 per flight).
And then we have BOOSTERS being rolled out. So far it's for the 'immunocompromised'...but Dictator Dan in Victoria has said that it'll be boosters all the way if you want to remain 'vaccinated' and have access to pretty well anything more than the grocery store!
So yeah, it sucks big time. But there ARE ways around it if you're flexible on a lot of fronts, willing to stand up for your rights (but still risking [illegally] issued fines) and don't want much of a social life.
So much for the free state of Australia...
Antarctica never sounded so good!
FL has one of the largest voucher programs in the nation and is being expanded. For those who do not qualify (FL may pay for homeschool tuition) begin forming pods of homeschoolers.
Maybe we should be careful here. One any entity receives tax dollars, they can be controlled and coerced by federal standards. I'm ok with just being left alone to educate my children as I see fit, free from government interference.
Glad you've seen the light, so to speak. 😊 It's interesting for me to observe as a homeschool veteran how people who were formerly very critical and unsupportive of it have come around. People homeschool for all kinds of reasons, not just religious ones. My husband and I are children of public school educators as well as products of public education - both in our 60s. I'm thankful our son didn't have to endure the kind of "socialization" crap we did. Does anyone need locker room comparisons?? I learned more while homeschooling than I did in all the years of "schooling" including finding history fascinating. Not a surprise based on how it was taught when we were "educated." We had no support from my husband's family of origin, criticism and the typical snide homeschooling tropes. I don't mind bragging that our son is the only one of his unmarried older and younger cousins (7), who has had a well paying job and owns his own home right out of college. The public educated others are still trying to find their way.
I agree completely with Gato about education tax money following the child.
I will gently praise myself for being willing to learn when reality thrusts itself into my face.
By the time I graduated with my degree to teach, I was completely disillusioned with the public school system. I learned about something called "home education" when I was pregnant with our first child. Now our youngest of ten children is 17 and getting ready to graduate high school, and we all joke that we'll soon be planning my graduation. However, I've learned with my children as they've learned, and to this day enjoy an amazing relationship with ten of the most wonderful people on the planet. They are independent thinkers, who are not swayed by peer pressure, and love a good well reasoned debate. Some of them are gifted artists, others are talented musicians. Our youngest son is carrying 20 units a semester as a violin performance and political sci major....with a 4.0, three jobs and an active social life at his private college. Our son who teaches science in a public high school has said the greatest gifts we gave him were a love of learning and the freedom to challenge. He has said his children will be home educated, especially after what he's seen in the school system. I am grateful for those of you who are rethinking your previous opinions on those of us who chose to educate our children at home. It was a sacrifice but oh, so very worth every moment!
Congratulations on your upcoming graduation with honors! I hope you have something planned for afterwards. I know when we left our only child at college and I was currently disabled with a serious injury, I felt like my life was over. How much more intense that could be after pouring your life into ten children! I too am grateful to read those who have changed their minds about homeschooling.
Thank you! I'm blessed to have a number of younger moms in my life to encourage and love, so my future continues to looks very busy and profitable, with lots of little people to enjoy! ;)
Agree, almost completely :-)
"Until the COVID-pocalypse, I strongly disfavored... " fill in blank here, I think we all have some of this SCA! For me, conspiracy theorists, anti vaxxers, and NRA members. Boy am I humbled, boy were they right!
What a truly humble and adult thing to say—you make my day! It takes someone in “big-girl pants” to be that honest. Thank you.
Lol- applies if you’re female, or like to wear “girl pants”, that is.
:) :) :)
Thank you. Pre-COVID, i was a homeschooling parent, former-vaxxer, alternative-lifestyler. It is comforting to know that, at least some people don’t think I’m crazy anymore. Although it was nice flying under the radar with my views back then….
A few years ago I moved from a major urban area in a blue state to a small largely liberal area in a red one, and I thank God for it. I've also lived for varying periods of time in an extremely conservative mostly uneducated South Asian country (as a private citizen and not part of any expat professional class) and was fortunate to make strong loving friendships with local people, some very poor. Life experience does stuff to ya...
Yes it does. In the words of one of my favorite bands ...what a long strange trip it's been
I disliked gov't school as a kid. I did well by basically ignoring it and educating myself. And thanks to one sincere math teacher.
I now despise gov't school as a grandfather. Grandmother and I pay private school tuition for all our grandchildren. They are happy children.
And fortunate ones.
Good for you! What a gift!
We love them. They are the gift!
Yeah, we fight that 'socialization' thing all the time. My response is that I don't really want my children to be socialized into the garbage that is the public school system and our cultural morass, thank you. I can socialize them just fine.
And one of the best outcomes of the homeschool version of "socialization" is that our children learn to relate to all age groups, not just their peers. Growing up, our son always impressed everyone with his politeness and level of engagement. Even as adults now, most of his government school cousins don't seem able to engage with us. Very sad.
Anymore than I want them socialized by social media.
I've had the privilege of knowing and working with many home-schooled people. They are the finest, most well adjusted and wise young people I've ever been around. I've spent the last 40 years unlearning everything I "learned" in public indoctrination camp in much the same way you did. Books, lectures (from knowledgeable people *I* wanted to listen to) etc. And things weren't even that bad when I went to "school". We are living proof that it's never too late. :)
On Dennis Prager's show he has often taken calls from children and young adults. The ones I have heard are without exception intelligent, thoughtful, articulate, and call to express very intelligent ideas. At some point Prager will inevitably ask them "Were you home schooled?", and the answer is always "yes."
A challenge I faced--and many others must too--is that both my neighborhood and my mother's--where my kid spent a lot of time--were overwhelmingly elderly. Very few kids. Direct opposite of how I grew up. Hardly anyone for my kid to run around with and have normal kid experiences. So a school environment was essential just to be around peers! And he formed durable friendships that have endured into adulthood.
So many obstacles in trying to do right by one's children. Fortunately I've been rebellious all my life so there was always a counterpoint at home to whatever was floated at school.
I too think kids need socialization. Now they get to socialize without masks with kids whose parents use their brains.
Originally, public schools were created to elevate the population of the country. Since the 1960s, they have become centers of indoctrination. The government and extra-governmental forces use the public schools to condition and control the population. We can't have anyone thinking the wrong thoughts or believing the wrong things.
I bet Gretta is fuming right now.
you're not going to get any odds on "greta is fuming." that seems like her natural state.
the harder bet is "when is she NOT fuming"?
To use some tiresome lingo for my own purposes--seems like the neurodiverse (inc. Zuckerberg, Gates et al) are doing a heck of a job dragging the universe of the neurotypical straight down to hell.
Gates strikes me as someone who has had everything handed to him including his parents eugenics. That includes Microsoft. The idea that he's a whizz kid mogul is a ridiculous one, the guy is an idiot, a murderous idiot.
It's not that he's a wiz-kid mogul; it's that his products were designed by people whose brains don't work the way the majority of people's brains work. Fifteen "elegant" steps to create a document that any reasonable person with a typewriter would create in two. Game-playing because they can rather than practical performance for the rest of us.
Let's face it, his software was/is nothing special. Only the idea might've been special.
The coding has always been messy and clunky with more clunk to try and correct the other clunk! That's why it takes so much memory space.
I'm not a tech person. I use computer programs only as they are useful to me. From the time I was forced to begin using them (at work), I was astounded by how ridiculous the number of steps required to type a simple letter was.
The destruction of simplicity and the imposition of technology on basic learning for children has--and I don't exaggerate--shocked me. Programs to teach infants to read? How about a parent's lap and an adult hand holding Goodnight Moon? God help this generation.
It takes a lot more courage to not wear a mask and stand up to those actually stealing your childhood than it does to speak to a bunch of "friendlies" about how they're "stealing your childhood."
HOW DARE YOU
I understand why "purebloods" like me dig DeSantas... but, I don't trust him at all (and no, I'm not into politics - never voted in my life). If you read all the anti-mask and anti-vaccine "things" he passes, they include very draconian mandates against the unvaxxed as well. The guy who does "The Quash Podcast" details it here: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-quash/will-floridas-law-banning-iIzCEsgPNJo/
I don’t necessarily disagree that we should have a healthy level of skepticism for anyone that chooses politics as their profession. A certain amount of slime is necessary to be successful in this realm. I also believe, however, that we have to meet the world where it is and not where we wish it was. I have a hard time finding a lot of fault with DeSantis. I think he has handled the Branch Covidian Uprising better than most other executives and that is worth a lot to me. I never thought I would be looking at Sweden and Florida as pockets of sanity in an insane world, but here we are.
And a Capone dictator like Luka in Belarus LOL. Nicaragua also had no masks and minimal if any restrictions. Seems to work good. Maybe we should try that early treatment thingy?
No doubt. It will be therapeutics that get us out of this, no these injections.
Also the return of common sense - if it can return - and the willingness of people to understand how truly miniscule the risk is for moderately healthy people going about normal pre-covid lives. The propaganda machine needs somehow to fail in the eyes of those under its thrall.
Like the monoclonal antibody clinics opened by DeSantis in Florida?
I am for anything that butts up against the “only vaccines will save us” narrative.
The government should have obliged Merck to produce Ivermectin instead of sponsoring untested new meds, that don't work. India proves that Ivermectin does.
Stop talking if you never voted in your life.
No one should be putting the totality of their trust into another human being. This is where the duty of the citizen comes into play. Be vigilant, be active and never let your guard down.
That said, I am very happy to have DeSantis as my governor.
Markus - this is strike 2 for you! First you threw an attorney under the bus because of his profession without considering what actions he was actually taking, now you admit to all of us that you don't vote? Ai-yi-yi. Please vote next November. And in any of the small elections in your community between now and then.
My not voting is a vote. In fact, I'd argue it's a more important vote. I'm voting that I'm not going to be fooled, and I'm not going to waste countless hours in the fraud. Our votes don't count - period. If our vote truly counted, our true rulers (the banksters) would deem it illegal. And I never forget that "President" George Bush was selected by just one person - a judge in Florida back in the year 2000: https://www.history.com/news/2000-election-bush-gore-votes-supreme-court
I'm not sure that Markus should vote. At least not until he has a better education.
This 12-year old proves almost every president is "in the club": https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/genes-seventh-grader-bloodlines-42-43-u-s-presidents-link-back-king-john-england-article-1.1129452
It’s really the core we should focus on, central banking being at the heart along with media, tech and the military. Catherine Austin Fitts has a great discussion of how to fight this, leaving politics out. One thing to do is move your money from a central banking bank to a small local bank.
That is true. But he and Paul stood up against the craze. I would have liked him stand up against Fauci but don't think he did. Always remember though, you CAN NOT trust politicians. They will say one thing this day and tomorrow turn around.
I've been saying this for over a year - DeSantis is a honeypot... so is the governor of Texas. They will suck people into Florida and Texas - and then pull the rug out from under everyone. The banksters rule the world. The banksters would NEVER let DeSantis be the pureblood champion on his own. DeSantis is the wolf in sheep's clothing. Just watch. I've seen this scenario play out all my life. For example: look at the Virginia race that was recently won by a republican. People are celebrating, yet Youngkin is as deep in the swamp as you can get... and I quote: "He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Council, and the American Enterprise Institute’s National Council." Source: https://wealthyspy.com/glenn-youngkin/
I totally agree. That is what politicians are. They attract with one hand and hold a knife in the other. Right now DeSantis is pleasing the people who want their freedom back. But will he turn into a tyrant the next day ? Without a doubt.
Just below is a comment that reads, "One of my many heroes throughout this darkness." Uggg. The banksters are still winning. I hope I live long enough to see them lose.
If you are a cat, I think you might have a chance. If you have not spent all of the 8 former lives that is.
Not good enough for my cats
There are those of us who no longer subscribe to the political farce that is voting. The system that voting enables is broken. I walked away after I witnessed the corruption of the 2012 RNC process. And once I learned about the NAP and voluntaryism, I came to regret my earlier participation in the system.
I agree, but how are we, common men and women, going to change the system? Unfortunately we usually have to choose between a dump and an outhouse...
Become an uncommon man or woman. Then work - as relentlessly as the destroyers do - to shape policy to align with the individual liberty, opportunity, and responsibility our forefathers envisioned and sought to guarantee through the Constitution. And put up and support leaders who most closely align with those values - maybe even yourself if you have a strong belief system. That requires finding and teaming up with like-minded people and putting in effort and being brave, rather than waiting to see what dump and outhouse is offered up.
It's a lot to commit to, but if folks decide they are powerless, then they are, indeed, powerless.
worked locally. We will see if we can get something done on higher level.
Excellent.
Then I suppose you will take whatever is laid before you on the table, since you will have no hand in preparing it.
With all due respect, everyone takes whatever is laid before them. We don't get an actual choice in elections. All leaders are pre-selected for you. Voting only enables this process and signifies consent to be ruled. I will not be a party to that.
I'd like to hear your informed analysis of the outcomes of two recent races: McAuliffe/Youngkin governor's race in Virginia, and Sweeney/Durr state senate race in New Jersey.
I'm not going to pretend to care about these races. I haven't followed them and I don't get distracted by them.
This never made any sense to me. Seems logical that the only people who can't complain are the people who actually voted for the idiot in office. What's the difference between me voting for Gary Johnson or Mickey Mouse or staying home? The 'leaders' will ignore me all the same.
Hopefully not emitting any CO2
That would be the only good thing coming out of her mouth since it feeds trees.
One of my many heroes throughout this darkness.
He’s my Gov. 👍. our “only hope”. There is plenty of chatter about him running for Pres. I hope so…..
And a little child shall lead them ….
Wait. Im confused. China United Front asset "Dr. Eric Finkle Dink" (I don't know his real name but those who know will know) and CNN's favorite Chinese doctor, Leana Wen, said that children were the new Covid vectors, and that Delta was KILLING THEM! So, how is this girl, unmasked, even alive? And how did she not spread Covid to hundreds of kids in her class, killing them all, and their 21 gendered teachers? Can someone explain this to me, please? I mean, at least dozens should have been sent to the hospital with Covid in her school...
Masks are and have been a farce!
Wonderful! And he didn't even try to coerce her by telling her that Santa has mask mandates for the elves and reindeer on the north pole?!?!
Governor DeSantis is like Roy Kent. He's here he's there he's every fucking where....
Hilarious!! 👍. 😂😂🤣
One of the best stories of the past 2 years👍👍
I took my wife to the airport to fly to see our son, I laughed at the number of people who were wearing a mask with it pulled down to below their nose. I was waiting for someone to cause a scene, with my phone at the ready.
It will be very interesting to see where this young lady is ten years from now. A future leader! Thanks mom & dad for raising such a wonderful child!
She told the school board "You are not following the law.. and I hope you all go to jail" https://youtu.be/cgQcR877FHI
Governor DeSantis treats this child with respect and recognizes her strength. President Mash Potato Brain Brandon on the other hand... well watch the video: https://newtube.app/TonyHeller/k3BOaqb
Thanks for the new Brandon label. Feels so good to laugh. I know who Tony Heller is, so I'll check out the video.
I didn't wear a mask the other day here in Wales, UK. Can I get called to the governor's office to meet Ron? We could do with thousands more like him in the world.
I want to be like him when (if) I grow up, too.
I hope that girl will, in time, have a profound effect on the world.
All governors, prime ministers etc should aspire to be like Ron. Sadly it requires intelligence and an encyclopedic memory so little chance!
Ron Desantis is the best international Governor of New England States, Vermont, Minnesota, California, Iceland, Germany, Singapore, New Zealand, Gibraltar. Truly the global leader.
This kid's face should be on money.
You know, like the other people we supposedly immortalize for their courage and victory over tyranny to preserve the American way of life?
Leftist heads exploding!
Awesome reward for her valiant behavior. She sets a heroic example to children and adults.
good for her!!!
just loving this.....we have to keep pushing and fighting, scratching and clawing (c'mon kitties, help us out!) and screaming and kicking until this tyranny ends.
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Courage!
Love it!! ❤️