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It gets a bit off topic. I'm of the opinion that Trump was basically a "none of the above," a "Fuck you!" that succeeded, surprising everyone including him. He wasn't (and isn't) the savior many on the right wished and still wish that he were. He was easily co-opted by the "real" (swamp, deep state) government. If you are or were a Democrat, merely look at how the 2020 primaries were manipulated. Biden was never a favorite. Powerful interests did all they could to eliminate Sanders. And when Biden was approved, Harris (even less popular than alternatives), was worked in since he'd promised a black woman Veep. The system is rigged top-to-bottom, beginning-to-end. We aren't going to vote our way out of this.

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Yes, it's amazing how most of us are still very much under the illusion that we pick the candidates and vote for them.

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