Wife is a pharmacist who knows more about vaccines, vaccinology and pharmacology than doctors I have quizzed. She "trained" me. Even before the first doses were shipped, she told me things that will probably happen with this experiment and she has been dead on accurate. I actually LEFT my general practitioner because he told me that the Covid shots were FDA approved and was adamant. I asked him to tell me how the "covid vaccination" works and he told me that it was a weak virus like the flu shot. THIS F**KER DID NOT KNOW THAT IT WAS MAN MADE nRNA PROGRAMMING spliced into a strand of RNA and encased in a nanolipid container. I was like, "What in the hell?" And I told him why I was transferring.
Wife says that we are DONE with the vaccines. The lies coming out of the FDA - soon you will not be able to trust injections to NOT use mRNA programming to accomplish a hopeful and theoretical task in order to save money and shortcut what used to be known as an actual vaccine.
it doesn't work, no one really expects it to, and yet every doc and pharmacy is constantly pushing it. it's a pure marketing product that has never shown any material societal scale efficacy. (though that least the side effects are fairly low.)
mRNA is far, far worse and as a modality is uniquely unsuited to vaccines. it will basically never provide sterilizing immunity because it cannot train you to clear the pathogen.
it will ALWAYS have really nasty side effects (especially if it uses pseudouridine to bypass immune attack on the vaxx itself) and will wind up being immunosuppressive and risk triggering permanent autoimmune diseases and syndromes.
I was at a conference recently where Dr. Malone spoke and said that everyone knows the flu shots don’t work but that the reason they don’t stop making them is to keep the vaccine technology going for when the big pandemic really comes. He didn’t approve of this, but that seems to be the justification within the scientific community, from his point of view. Whatever. I think it’s like any other government program: once started, it’ll keep going due to career interests and self-serving excuses.
I believe the "flu vaccine" manufacturers threatened to stop making them because they were not profitable. They chose instead to push them on everyone (infants, children, pregnant women, everyone else, 65+). The flu jabs do not have the same side effect profile as the mRNA, but they are not safe. And they don't work.
if people were less gullible, the flu jabs would be long gone. But I know many people who believe in them like a god. There are lots of needle worshipers around. And some will almost force you to come to their church!
The really sad thing is that virtually all health care institutions insist you get them (they don't work) or, for the few that do not insist, they then insist that you must wear a mask to show you are unclean (even though masks demonstrably do not work, either.)
If the health care industry (doctors, why aren't more of you shrieking about this -- I have never had a flu shot and do not wear masks, either -- because they are useless...not for any political reason) would just stand up and say "NO", it would all stop.
I seem to remember that the flu shot was not a free shot & Hillary & company got on the band wagon & forced health insurance to cover it totally along with Colonoscopies (which had been covered totally if they didn't find anything BUT became medical & went to your deductible if they did find something. & the more you get for free, the higher your health care costs.)
Same thing for breast cancer and mammograms. You are rewarded for having discovered via a mammogram that you had breast cancer with paying for future mammograms.
that sounds like an american system ! I remember a friend who had a house fire. The insurance paid up but then refused to insure her again. The new insurance was way higher than the first one ! so that goes for health as well ! thanks for the warning !
Maybe it means to keep the association of vaccine with a repetitive, "it's the season to get your shot!", seemingly simple jab with relatively few noticeable adverse effects ... so when a much more dangerous vaccine is made, people will conflate it with the flu shot in their minds, take it like it's no big deal, and not understand the selfish stubborn people who refuse that simple pinprick...?
Dr Breggin did question Malone and Malone is suing him and his wife for 25 million!!. . . Apparently, no one can critique or question Malone without threat of a lawsuit. I personally don't trust Malone at all. . . I do trust Dr Breggin.
Dr Breggin has the history to have won your trust. I have three of his books here. Dr Malone is at the epicentre of what has gone wrong and has earned our distrust.
I am a non coating subscriber to Dr. Malone, and frequently only scan or just delete his posts if the first paragraph doesn't pique my interest. Thanks for this. I'm now more skeptical.
Bingo. Too few get it. Big Gov't in 'public' health leads to? Corruption, unnecessary medical interventions AND suppression of that which would sink the 'gov't sponsored' approach to health (think IVM or HCQ versus the jab). Be it healthy diet, supplements, non pharma approaches etc etc.
I think it's more complex than just "big government". It's actually the takeover of government administration by selfish, private parties, whether in the form of public-private partnerships with corporations or billionaire "philanthropists," or in that of government officials who accrue too much power to distribute government funding, a la Fauci. We have had, and perhaps still have, some government entities that do their job properly because they report to the people rather than to big funding controllers.
We have known since around 2006 from a government funded study that the flu vaccine does nothing to change mortality in the elderly. Needless to say the government did its best to quash the information lest people get the wrong idea.
I had the flu vaccine in 2016 - 2018. PCP recommended it. Same PCP who cancelled my scheduled appointment in Dec 2020 because I had headaches (part of the symptoms of Covid checklist), but could not be bothered to check up on me afterward.
One of the many disappointments of Covid was how it showed doctors true colors. My PCP wears a mask every time I see her. When we had the vaccine talk, I began to sincerely wonder where she came up with her degree in medicine. Was it a correspondence course?
That was their original goal from their founding but, thus far, they've failed hugely.....COVID has opened the door......a LOT of people do not realize that MODERNA was next in line for a criminal fraud investigation after Theranos but, again, COVID pulled them from the jaws of investors......just look at what they are doing to this Sam Bankman Fried character....whether you are Elizabeth Holmes, or Sam you can be their darling one moment and their demon the next if you get between them and their money.....these people only desire risk free profit....this is a topic for his "Gatoness" to do a post on for it is what is driving this Idiocracy and with it the future.
....it is easy and quick to produce and can increase shareholder return....this is what matters to today's large corporations who have to answer their big money investors.....
But the financial marketing was Neely married to the public health marketing. The "Do No Harm" premise was change to "You must take this injection to help vulnerable people other than yourselves." Never mind there was no risk from the flu to you: you're now responsible for someone else.(And the flu shot never worked on the elderly at all.)
I have a cousin who is a doctor and he and my mother went head to head a couple of times. He actually told her that no one has died from the jab. Two other doctors warned her not to take ivm. Trust has left the building.
😲 my doctor told me “they’ll lock you up in a psych ward before they give you an exemption” and then suggested I move country. Never went back obviously. Eventually found a doctor willing to do his job, who issued my exemption.
I've always thought the exemption issue was a stop gap at best when we should be really focusing on why the vaccine should be mandated to begin with. Exemptions can be ignored, and we have seen this. I suppose what I am after is to bring this battle out in the open where it belongs. If the government is going to take away our rights, I want them to do it honestly. The fact that they furtively avoid it shows at least some purpose to either ignore it or deny that it is occurring.
I agree in principle, but the reality is most unvaxxed couldn’t work without one. I went to Bali in July 2022, would have been forced to quarantine 5 days in a hotel at my own expense if I hadn’t had an exemption. Could not attend yoga or Physio without one. So they are necessary in the short term, but also I agree that the focus ought to be on the mandates
They're building mRNA manufacture plants everywhere in Aus now (well, NSW and QLD definitely). And there's talk at parliament level of making farmers inject their livestock.
If all goes according to plan, soon it will be in our food supply down here, and mRNA concoctions on tap at any and every GP office.
Time to learn to hunt game 😎 Actually I've been shopping at farmers markets for years and the farmers are all wise to it... plans already being put together... there will definitely be resistance, whether overt or underground. But if you shop at Coles (which, why would you?!) then you're screwed.
I'm a full on carnivore and only eat wild fish cos they vaccinate the farmed ones. But even wild fish have toxic build up so I limit it to no more than twice a week
And you maybe soon at DefCon 1, the ultimate your survival versus their forcing you. Dr. Vernon Coleman wrote something back at the start of this journey regarding the jabs and how he felt the potential for it to go shockingly wrong (well, right if you of the Death Cult persuation).
Incompetence. The sunk cost logical fallacy train wreck they are taking over the cliff. I really believer in the "rule by rube" postulate that these people really believe in it. Still don't understand why they mandate something that can't prevent infection/transmission.
I read that they already use the mrna in short living food animals like chickens. I am now somewhat reluctant to eat it. I don't know if it is true and i found not much about it.
It really is endlessly amazing how many people, including medical doctors, blithely assumed all sorts of convenient things that anyone who'd been paying attention would have known were not true. I fired my doctor, too.
Since your wife is a pharmacist, perhaps you might find this transcript of interest:
Australian Pharmacist Li Chu on Why He Did Not Comply -- EXCERPT
The Explosive Interview with an Outcast Pharmacist from Darwin [Australia]
Originally from Penang, Malaysia, Li Chu is not a native English speaker, so you may note a number of minor errors that are not necessarily mistakes in the transcription itself. Cafe Locked Out "was started to defend free speech by refusing to be silent." You can find many more interviews all around Australia by Michael Gray Griffith at https://cafelockedout.com/ ]
1:58
LI CHU: OK. First thing is, when the covid starts to hit in this world, I'm the first one, because I'm a health professional, I'm a pharmacist, and my curiosity always to find out what is really going on. And I do my own research, I do my own searching, doesn't take long. You know that this is just some kind of— At first, in the first probably in the first month or so probably in the early days you might think it's quite dangerous because not much information about it. But regardless, I believe that, I believe that your human body is the most powerful immune system.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: If you know how to manage it, if you know how to optimize it. So I'm, in the last five years I have been doing my courses, I'm a nutritional therapist as well, I'm a function medicine health coach as well, so I do know about nutrition. And first thing I know is I look it up and then I see that you need to just boost your immune system the first thing. And I went to dig deeper, so—
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Just, what's a quick natural way to boost your immune system?
LI CHU: Oh, easy. I think most people knows about this. Vitamin C, high dose, 1 gram. Is not a medical advice by the way. I think whoever's listening, we know enough that we always take proactive to get our best of it. I do know that it's very safe, Vitamin C alone. I never see anyone overdose Vitamin C by the way. And Vitamin C 1 gram every 1 or 2 hours until you reach bowel tolerance. Basically you need to know how much Vitamin C you need. There is just one way. And another one is Vitamin D, Vitamin D3, you need to be a higher range of the Vitamin D. I personally take 5,000 IU a day.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Wow.
LI CHU: If you go under the sun with 10,000 IU you can— My kind of skin if you could go under the full sun you can get 10,000 IU, international units, in half an hour. So you're going to say that I'm going to overdose under the sun?
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: [laughs]
LI CHU: So it is only a problem with someone with kidney problems with Vitamin D. You hardly get overdose of Vitamin D as well, but it is possible as well. As professional I can say. So these are the main one. So even with that alone you can reduce your chances of even getting severe disease of the covid as well.
4:29
And from, as a follow you can see that actually I think that in the beginning I noticed that it's just more like a common cold. And then when they say that they're starting to want to make vaccine, I knew straight away that they are up to something because you don't want to treat something, common cold with vaccine. It's like, it's so disproportionate you want to do it within a year or very short time. There's even no logical in that.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: So as a pharmacist, by the way we inject people, but amazing thing is, based on my own personal conviction, I never, I— when they asked about in the pharmacy to jab people with the covid, I'm the only one that refused to.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Wow.
LI CHU: And I'm the only one in my company of how many, many people in our company, that, I'm the only one that refused to do it. And then also based on personal conviction and I also refused to get myself as well.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: Basically you have to believe what you're doing what you're doing so that's the reason why that I'm not allowed to work. This is very strange thing is, before during the vaccine coming up, you can work and you are are working your, yeah, everyone's locked down everything and you still have to work the whole hours of the day, you work your ass off in a way, in a sense anyway. [laughs]. Sorry.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: No, we can swear on here. Ass, ass, ass.
LI CHU: Oh, yeah, yeah, OK. Good. [laughs] I don't swear by the way. Yeah. So basically after, after the, when you have the vaccine, suddenly you can't work because you are so dangerous now.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: So doesn't really make sense. I mean challenged all my colleagues all the way, that you know, whatever you can—
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: What did they say? Because you're very analytical and you know what you're talking about. So what did your colleagues, what was their argument about?
LI CHU: Oh they, at the end if I always show the facts, I don't want to go all the facts thing because I think more important is to make people aware. And basically it's every time you put on the facts, they will say that, oh, this media say this, this media say that. So if you talk about media saying this and that, then of course there is the facts that they're receiving, so it's a totally different. But every time you use like common sense and stuff like— [interruption, someone at the door]—
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Come in.
LI CHU: And you don't, you, if you use your common sense, like, why you wear the mask if it is virus so small? Everyone knows the virus particle is very small.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: That's why if you do biological labs and all this you need to wear all this they call it bunny suit that you putting on that they do the experiment on viruses. And then you have someone wearing surgical mask or wearing cloth mask and all this stuff. So a lot of things doesn't make sense. And they always say, that— at the end, if you dig deeper, like I know my colleague and all this, I ask them personal question, they always say one thing. What can you do? I have to feed my family.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Oh really? So that's [inaudible].
LI CHU : Yes. And I say that, you jabbing, OK. Let's say later on, when I notice that more and more people get injured, I show them the facts, and they will just say that, what can you do? And then—
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: So they're willing to injure people to feed their families.
LI CHU: Yes, that's exactly what, I will say all doctors, our profession, that's, that's I believe you will be indictment with the same thing if you know the danger and the damage that it can cause and then you still do it. There's no difference from someone that murders someone than if you do if you happened to get someone injured. That's my conviction. I'm very straight to my superior, manager. I told him, to his face, because he's my friend, so I say that. Are you going to do this, and then regret for the rest of your life? Or? The only thing he can say is, what can I do, I got to feed my family. And that is means that your family, your money, basically it's the money, basically, money to feed your family is more important than your conviction of morality, or your ethical as health professional, as ethical.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: It's the Hippocratic Oath.
LI CHU: Yeah, Hippocratic Oath. First do no harm.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: So this is something that, being a strong Christian, this is something that I cannot compromise. Because I'm not answering to man. I'm answering to God.
you were lucky ! in fact you don't even have to be a pharmacist to know these jabs are fake. Who injects a bad ingredient from a shampoo into their body ! PEG is not good, neither is polysorbate (used in J&J) I only worked one year as secretary in a cosmetics lab and I knew that. And most vaccines contain mercury and aluminum. Very healthy that is ! You should not cook in aluminum pots but inject it in a kid's body is fine.
is there some sort of support group for healthcare workers who have some critical thinking skills and integrity? or maybe we just start our own accreditation group- since we cant always rely on masks as a signal...
Who gives their kids a flu vax? Well, 20+ years ago, I did. Didn't know any better.
Oldest kid (then 2) and husband caught flu the week before Christmas. When I took her to the pediatrician, he said, "You know you can get flu shots for kids, don't you?" So the next fall, we got her a flu shot. Added baby brother the year after that. Husband was already getting the flu shot at work, my work offered them. None of us got flu, no obvious side effects of the shots. Pediatric clinic was really ramping up flu shots for children within a few years. They'd schedule special after-hours "clinics" to do nothing but give flu shots.
Then came 2009 and H1N1 "swine" flu. Husband and (by now school-aged) kids caught the piggy flu only a week or two after school started in August. I didn't isolate from the three of them, or wear a mask, or refuse to hug the kids, none of that mess. And I didn't get the flu. We continued getting flu shots.
For the next three years, husband and at least one kid got the flu every. stinking. flu season. (I still didn't.) It finally clicked with me that the shot wasn't doing any good. It wasn't stopping my family from getting infected, and I couldn't tell that it was making symptoms any milder. Tamiflu didn't seem to be doing much to help, either.
So I quit. No more flu shots for me or the kids...and they stopped getting the flu. Husband took the shot one more year, then quit...and he stopped getting the flu. They might have caught it once in the next 5 or 6 years. Husband realized he also wasn't coming down with other upper-respiratory crud twice every winter anymore.
I'm of a generation that didn't take dozens of doses of childhood vaccines by age 5 or 6. My vax certificate from 1980 lists requirements of 3 or 4 doses each of DTP and oral polio vaccine, and one each of measles, mumps, and rubella (they were separate shots back then). I also distinctly remember getting the smallpox shot in 1970, because it scabbed over and left a scar.
I'm done. I don't know that I'll ever take another vaccine, except maybe for tetanus (and rabies, if the situation ever came up).
The same ones that would probably give their kids a covid vaccine despite it not affecting children pretty much at all. I think only 300 kids in the past two years suffered at the hands of Covid.
It's a great pity you mentioned polio because it's a fraud, much like covid but it's based on toxic poisoning. Look up Forrest mareadys' book moth in the iron lung.
I like Forest Maready - but am learning to value the balance of discussion. Fact is, the polio vaccine worked the way vaccines were supposed to, with today’s formulation being the beneficiary of a lot of data and reformulation to get one that was more beneficial than harmful. The fact that they touted polio - which had decades of study, and even decades of attempts at create a vaccine - in comparison to a new, bioengineered virus is absurd.
For the record, Forest Maready’s hypothesis that the poliovirus was common and probably not even noticed until it started paralyzing small children, and that its ability to cause paralysis *could* be the destruction of the gut’s ability to handle the virus stands up to reason for me, but actually encourages vaccination, not discourages it. Heaven knows our microbiome is less able to handle things these days, so the vaccine is a safer route. And fair and balanced history would support that.
But look at the rest of the childhood schedule of vaccines, and we have a problem. Full protection from consequence has made them less likely to pursue safety and safety studies first before injecting babies. And it’s criminal.
Okay but, and I am NOT saying IPV doesn't "work" to elicit a pre-set specific immune response to poliovirus (which we must remember is not the same as banishing childhood paralysis, which has other causes). And MAYBE it will turn out -- when any effort is made to fully understand associated non-specific effects of either IPV or OPV -- that yes indeed if you use it, you will increase your chances for enjoying more overall health/longer life than a person who does not. But maybe that won't turn out to be the case. Either way, at present, deep and unyielding (and massively pharma/PH guarded) assumptions that polio vaccination MUST be the best approach to preventing childhood paralysis without introducing new problems, prevent us from actually funding and proceeding with the critical path inquiry that might yield up a more clear reason for why the great majority of people pre-vaccine were/are NOT in any way harmed by natural poliovirus encounters, and the identity of the factors which together bring about the poor outcome of paralysis. Clarity which might push our understanding of health maintenance in general.
Your point underlines the main message of the post really. Like everyone else, I thought the Polio vaccines saved the world from a terrible disease. When I saw the blatent con that is the current injectables regime, I started researching vaccines and viruses in general. And you are right, insecticide poisoning is at least as plausible as the virus as a causitive agent and I would personally give it a 90% probability of being so. I am now deeply suspicious of any pharmaceutical interventions, especially vaccines. I've had the full series recommended, as has my daughter, but I would look very carefully at any future vaccines being offered.
Can’t just quickly Google info to refute your link
As much as I respect your work this an area where I respectfully disagree
Vaccinated two older kids they have learning challenges chronic health issues
Flipped with my third. Not s single jab.
Kid is healthy walked early talked early rarely ill. And he was born in my 40s.
Yeah it’s anecdata but we had a sudden infant death on my side of the family and when I told my pediatrician why we decided to stop bc of an infant death she said “oh they don’t make the vaccines like that anymore. “
Yiiiikes.
Anyway I’ll take my chances with easily survivable childhood diseases over chronic lifelong issues further enslaving us to the medical industrial regime.
It’s only “effective” because doctors simply labeled the skin rash and other symptoms as something else. Your argument that incidence has gone down doesn’t hold. You have to see the whole shell game in order to understand how you’ve been fooled. If you can show there is any fundamental difference between smallpox, chicken pox, measles, mon(k)eypox, etc. then let’s see the evidence! That video reference claims that the scientific literature is confused about exactly the difference between all of these “diseases.” Call me skeptical, but given how deep the bullshit is getting, I demand evidence for your claims that also addresses this issue of simply calling “measles” something else!
I agree. How can you trust any of their data? Either you understand that Rockefeller was trying to kill with his vaccine research or you don't. Either you understand that millions died from his WW1 enfluenza vaccine or you don't. Who was Rockefeller? Was he a humanitarian philanthropist who wanted the greatest good for the greatest number? Or was he unbelievably wealthy and from a Satanic family? Do exceedingly wealthy people love poor people, or are they secretly trying to kill everyone they consider less than themselves? Do the very wealthy see poor people as a threat to their way of life? Is there a secret war on poor people being fought by the very wealthy? Do the very wealthy Satanic people on Earth wish to kill poor (Christian) people or do they want billions of happy healthy poor people? It seems that El Gato doesn't even understand the planet he is living on. I doubt people like that will ever understand what's going on. He'll still be talking about data points when we're incinerating piles of bodies.
I had both the Salk and Sabin vaccines in the 50's. I also had 2 small Pox vaccinations - one required for public school attendance, the other 12 years later as a requirement for college. I had rubella as a child, and it was seriously horrible. Also had measles and mumps, but not seriously ill. This vaccination hysteria needs to differentiate vaccines, not condemn all.
My daughter had a nasty enterovirus last year that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. There is no vaccine for enteroviruses which is interesting bc polio is technically one. It’s suspiciously the only enterovirus we have a vax for.
She survived and it’s over. I take it you did too with rubella.
I never bemoaned the fact there was no vaccine. We just sucked it up and dealt with it. It’s a part of life unfortunately.
Now would you trade a short term childhood illness for say rheumatoid arthritis? A chronic autoimmune disease for life as a result of a vax ?
I’m not saying they don’t work I’m saying they are not being considered in the proper context of all that could go wrong with them. And there’s no way to know until it’s too late.
Id rather have a child get sick and survive then a dead child. Or a child with chronic life long ills due to the shots is my point.
I see your thought process, but I'm with el Gato on this. Vaccines are not all equal, and I don't think we have any way now to effectively perform a cost/benefit analysis.
"Vaccination agenda in general has been based on hiding the evidence and massive scientific fraud perpetrated for decades."
And from the referenced study:
"Based upon the size of the random sample of adult controls, the odds that vaccines are NOT the cause of well over 90% of the disabling chronic conditions suffered by Americans over the age of 18 are 1 in 245,083,100,778,672,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000(or p < 4.08E-63). This profound evidence of cause is exponentially more certain than the highest threshold standard of proof relied upon in any branch of science in existence today."
That really large number is about 3 orders of magnitude larger the number of atoms in the universe.
Bullshit. Her Iowa city doctors told the parents not to vaccinate her siblings. After 2.5 years of living on a strictly keto for epilepsy diet, her brain is almost healed.
and since mmr has irradiated measles, we now have 5ths disease, foot & mouth, & RSV (which is much more dangerous). mumps, measles, rubella were inconveniences, but I've never known anyone that had a birth defect from it or had a family member that was even hospitalized, much less died, from mmr. I know many that have been hospitalized from RSV.
"Quant genius Mathew Crawford is doing a brilliant series of articles exploring the possibility that vaccine efficacy — for all vaccines — may be zero and that any claimed benefit from shots is actually a wealth effect (said differently, when one controls for wealth any supposed benefit from the vaccine disappears). I would like to add my two cents to this debate."
"There are about 20 studies that the CDC points to as showing that there is no relationship between vaccines and autism. I assumed that I would not be able to read or understand these studies at all. Given what I knew about the complexity of econometrics, and knowing that the human body, biology, chemistry, and the immune system are even more complex than economics, I assumed that I would be looking at equations involving calculus, that used advanced statistical software to analyze hundreds or perhaps thousands of variables that impact health and disease.
The reality is quite different. Vaccine safety studies tend to be bivariate — they only look at two variables — the vaccine (independent variable) and whether someone suffered an adverse event (dependent variable). It’s actually even worse than that. Vaccine safety studies almost always look at children who have received the full vaccine schedule as compared with children who have received the full schedule +1 more vaccine. And on that basis, they decide whether the 1 additional vaccine is safe. There is no unvaccinated control group. And they do not control for hundreds of other variables that influence health and disease.
When I read a vaccine safety study for the first time, a sickening panic swept over me — “no, no, no, this cannot possibly be. THIS is what the CDC is relying upon!? THIS is what the CDC is using to claim that vaccines are safe!?” Far from being too advanced, these studies are so crude they would fail any Statistics 101 class in any college in America. Tears streamed down my face.
So I read another, and another, and another “vaccine safety” study (eventually reading all 20). And they were all the same. These studies are preposterous because they cannot possibly answer the question they are trying to tackle because their methods are too basic. Vaccine safety studies contain no biology, no chemistry, and vanishingly little statistics. These people are doing arithmetic, badly. In fact, they resemble a card trick more than anything having to do with science. I realized that the CDC has no idea what it is doing — the entire field of pediatrics and public health is a Potemkin Village, a Ponzi scheme, the worst intellectual fraud that I have ever seen.
I wept because of the implications (and hoped against hope that I was misunderstanding something). These are some of the most consequential studies ever produced — because their findings impact the health of 95% of the children in the developed world. Yet the field itself is stunted and basic — at least 100 years behind their colleagues in the physical sciences or even the quantitative branches of the social sciences. The vulgarity of vaccine safety studies is covered up by the PR machine for the most ruthless industry in the world (and a web of financial relationships that has become “too big to fail”)."
Maybe this will turn into a great natural experiment. We’ve tried vaxxing kids for everything under the sun for decades and it doesn’t appear to have improved general health outcomes (obviously there are myriad other factors at play). What happens when we stop?
When you read children’s literature from the past two centuries, measles is sometimes mentioned in passing. And usually it’s not a big deal. My own sisters had measles as kids. NBD. They also had beter sanitation etc. than our parents’ generation.
We just interviewed opa and oma for history class and I gotta say hearing about their post war living conditions really brought home the difference between the 50s and the 60s in a big way. More convincing than any graph.
Well then if people want it they should be able to take it. They should also be able to say no they don’t want it. They should also be able to say they only want a measles shot and not a combi shot. They also should be able to sue the manufacturer if something does go wrong. There should also be more information about what can go wrong. No one told me my child might develop epilepsy after a poorly timed one size fits all dose. The risk is not zero and the risk is all mine. Statistics don’t matter when you’re playing Russian roulette. And at this point in time, I'm not sure I believe that the risks have been calculated correctly at all. Gaslighting around vaccines is as old as the intervention itself. I would take measles over severe epilepsy any day. Speaking of really unpleasant.
lol Marin, I grew up there. Total granolas when it came to vaccines, health, etc. Due to Pan, huge homeschooling community too. Now, they are all on the Covid vax bandwagon and scream and hate those who choose to think for themselves, including the homeschool groups!. Such whiplash! I hate visiting because my entire family really bought into the scam (one has had 6 shots now!) and have called me every name in the book for my decision. Same with Vashon Island in WA (good friend and El Gato Fan is from there, kept me apprised of all the insanity). Would be a fascinating article to really dive into how propaganda worked on these supposed free thinking, hippie enclaves
Here's the thing: people have complicated lives and aren't interested/don't have time/motivation to "research" childhood vaccines.
So they will default to two positions:
1. CDC schedule
2. None
Because "the MMR is safe, but I don' want a tetanus for my infant" is just too hard. Plus, there will be pushback from doctors if parents want to do concierge injections. Consequently... all or nothing.
Everything is a balancing act of medical risk and rewards. Do you think we know enough about the full & true adverse effects of the MMR vaccine to be able to make that calculation in an informed manner? No way.
And why have what appears to now be an inert, outdated mumps vaxx mixed in with it? Is that cost free? I don't think it is: we ought NEVER to take useless shots which are all risk and no reward.
I'm in education, and we have information systems upon information systems of data from every single test/assessment taken. At the drop of a hat, or fairly easily, we could compare various demographic characteristics, or class history, with one's performance on State or local Assessments. (I'm sure, with what I see you write, that you know considerably more about this than I ever could.) If you took Mr. Jones' math class, I can tell you with a good degree of certainty, looking at your other testing results, that you will most likely perform extremely well on this or that test/assessment.
With all the freaking electronic data and medical tracking we experience, you cannot tell me that NO ONE has ever looked at the correlations of childhood vaccines and future health outcomes. We all know that if the outcomes were dispositive concerning the efficacy and safety of vaccines that the results would be shown ... and they'd rub the data in our faces every single time someone raised any objections.
There's NO POSSIBLE WAY that this hasn't been done by many people who have access to the data.
Let's see the data so that we can make truly informed decisions!
The vax program and the assault on “alternative” medicine and real food suppressed and sidelined efforts to find real treatments for these diseases that would enhance immune fitness without the risks of shots.
When I was a kid, 70 or so years ago, when a neighbor kid got measles or chicken pox, all the moms had their kids go play with him/her so they would catch it and be immunized. Big Pharma and radical leftists in government have changed all this. Gato Malo lays the recent attack on humanity and our freedom delightfully well in today's piece. Bears repeating:
"no scott, it was your and yours that did this by lying, pushing bad drugs as panacea, adopting obsessive focus on pseudoscientific and outright superstitious disease avoidance modalities, and turning public health into a hyper partisan pander-fest that then failed, caught fire, fell over, and sank into the fetid swamps from which this impulse seemingly sprung." Using government to buy millions (billions?) of doses of what real doctors were warning would have dangerous and widespread side effects, and then force people to take them is what Big Pharma has wet dreamed of for decades. And massive death dealing side effects are what global fascists like Gates and Schwab are even better than the diseases they and ghouls like Fraudci have been spending years and billions on creating. We are indeed under attack, and the Gates of Hell appear to have been breached...
Buried in plain site in this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1712354/ is the known fact that vitamin A deficiency is a HUGE, if not the number one, cause of morbidity and mortality in measles. The MMR does have risks, it's just difficult to determine what they are because of the confounding factors, but the researchers inside the vaccine program have certainly seen them. However, NO attention is ever paid to figuring out why kids in the wealthy west might be susceptible to measles, and how to address that, since there is no money in it.
what is the difference between the 50s and the 60s? I understand differences between 1900s and 1930s, and 1930s and 1960s -- but I'm interested in what you wrote there about what happened between the 50s and 60s.
I was thinking about how poorly I worded that as opa and oma were born in the early part of the decade and my sisters were born in the later part of the decade. So it's really more like a twenty year gap. Also maybe Europe had a harder time after the war than the USA, but my mother grew up very poor in rural Idaho and had very similar tales to tell. So without resorting to cited sources, quality of life was way better within two decades.
They lived in cramped quarters with the whole family, badly isolated single pane glass, no running water in the home. Had to heat up water in a tub for sponge baths or go to the bath house, so hygiene was intermittent. Shared toilets with other apartments. Stove was gas and you needed a special token to turn it on, so it was prepaid and “gone was gone.” Heating was coal, which as you can imagine was dirty and unsafe. Food scraps and rags collected weekly and people prepaid their funerals with an insurance collector each month. Honestly in my head these were conditions you hear about in the 19th century. But no, this was Amsterdam in the mid twentieth century. And listen, I am of the mind that living too clean is also a recipe for weak bodies, but the timing with our raised living standards and the miracle vaccines is awfully convenient for miracle vaccines. Speaking of doing a sun dance at 6 am....
But am a little despairing at the moment as it seems no one but the 10% gives a shit.
I am at the point where I'm thinking perhaps the only way to make anyone other than us care (and therefore, gain critical mass for something to be done about it) is to make it our personal mission, all of us, to persuade 1-2 people to join Team Reality. Turn the 10% into 30%.
It IS despairing to see friends have micro strokes and flair-ups of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis and not even give a thought that these issues are likely caused by the vaccines.
And it seems no one is doing autopsies with an eye bent on vaccine caused deaths on these people dropping dead from SADS.
But we keep pushing; not giving up and at least not forgetting what they did.
Wife is a pharmacist who knows more about vaccines, vaccinology and pharmacology than doctors I have quizzed. She "trained" me. Even before the first doses were shipped, she told me things that will probably happen with this experiment and she has been dead on accurate. I actually LEFT my general practitioner because he told me that the Covid shots were FDA approved and was adamant. I asked him to tell me how the "covid vaccination" works and he told me that it was a weak virus like the flu shot. THIS F**KER DID NOT KNOW THAT IT WAS MAN MADE nRNA PROGRAMMING spliced into a strand of RNA and encased in a nanolipid container. I was like, "What in the hell?" And I told him why I was transferring.
Wife says that we are DONE with the vaccines. The lies coming out of the FDA - soon you will not be able to trust injections to NOT use mRNA programming to accomplish a hopeful and theoretical task in order to save money and shortcut what used to be known as an actual vaccine.
And WHO THE F**K GIVES THEIR KIDS A FLU VAX????
the flu vaccine was a sort of prototype here.
it doesn't work, no one really expects it to, and yet every doc and pharmacy is constantly pushing it. it's a pure marketing product that has never shown any material societal scale efficacy. (though that least the side effects are fairly low.)
mRNA is far, far worse and as a modality is uniquely unsuited to vaccines. it will basically never provide sterilizing immunity because it cannot train you to clear the pathogen.
it will ALWAYS have really nasty side effects (especially if it uses pseudouridine to bypass immune attack on the vaxx itself) and will wind up being immunosuppressive and risk triggering permanent autoimmune diseases and syndromes.
ramping up new ones is a truly disastrous idea.
I was at a conference recently where Dr. Malone spoke and said that everyone knows the flu shots don’t work but that the reason they don’t stop making them is to keep the vaccine technology going for when the big pandemic really comes. He didn’t approve of this, but that seems to be the justification within the scientific community, from his point of view. Whatever. I think it’s like any other government program: once started, it’ll keep going due to career interests and self-serving excuses.
that seems an implausible explanation as it's neither needed to keep the tech going nor even remotely ethical.
i suspect it's just plain "follow the money" and "ask the marketing department what drugs to pretend to have"
I believe the "flu vaccine" manufacturers threatened to stop making them because they were not profitable. They chose instead to push them on everyone (infants, children, pregnant women, everyone else, 65+). The flu jabs do not have the same side effect profile as the mRNA, but they are not safe. And they don't work.
if people were less gullible, the flu jabs would be long gone. But I know many people who believe in them like a god. There are lots of needle worshipers around. And some will almost force you to come to their church!
The really sad thing is that virtually all health care institutions insist you get them (they don't work) or, for the few that do not insist, they then insist that you must wear a mask to show you are unclean (even though masks demonstrably do not work, either.)
If the health care industry (doctors, why aren't more of you shrieking about this -- I have never had a flu shot and do not wear masks, either -- because they are useless...not for any political reason) would just stand up and say "NO", it would all stop.
I keep hearing from people who won't get them, because they got one once and got sicker than they had ever been in their life.
Hospitals do exactly that!
I seem to remember that the flu shot was not a free shot & Hillary & company got on the band wagon & forced health insurance to cover it totally along with Colonoscopies (which had been covered totally if they didn't find anything BUT became medical & went to your deductible if they did find something. & the more you get for free, the higher your health care costs.)
Same thing for breast cancer and mammograms. You are rewarded for having discovered via a mammogram that you had breast cancer with paying for future mammograms.
that sounds like an american system ! I remember a friend who had a house fire. The insurance paid up but then refused to insure her again. The new insurance was way higher than the first one ! so that goes for health as well ! thanks for the warning !
true! hurricane on the Gulf & everyone's home insurance goes up the next year.
Maybe it means to keep the association of vaccine with a repetitive, "it's the season to get your shot!", seemingly simple jab with relatively few noticeable adverse effects ... so when a much more dangerous vaccine is made, people will conflate it with the flu shot in their minds, take it like it's no big deal, and not understand the selfish stubborn people who refuse that simple pinprick...?
Certainly for me. I'm no longer taking for granted my doctor wouldn't sell me something. I'm no longer buying.
And no one questions Dr. Malone.
Dr Breggin did question Malone and Malone is suing him and his wife for 25 million!!. . . Apparently, no one can critique or question Malone without threat of a lawsuit. I personally don't trust Malone at all. . . I do trust Dr Breggin.
Dr Breggin has the history to have won your trust. I have three of his books here. Dr Malone is at the epicentre of what has gone wrong and has earned our distrust.
My two cents
I am a non coating subscriber to Dr. Malone, and frequently only scan or just delete his posts if the first paragraph doesn't pique my interest. Thanks for this. I'm now more skeptical.
Bingo. Too few get it. Big Gov't in 'public' health leads to? Corruption, unnecessary medical interventions AND suppression of that which would sink the 'gov't sponsored' approach to health (think IVM or HCQ versus the jab). Be it healthy diet, supplements, non pharma approaches etc etc.
I think it's more complex than just "big government". It's actually the takeover of government administration by selfish, private parties, whether in the form of public-private partnerships with corporations or billionaire "philanthropists," or in that of government officials who accrue too much power to distribute government funding, a la Fauci. We have had, and perhaps still have, some government entities that do their job properly because they report to the people rather than to big funding controllers.
....literally walking on eggshells by saying this....
and money, of course. Just watched Dr Michael Yeadon's talk at the conference. Worth watching.
I imagine if they don't keep it going, there won't be a budget for it.
The flu vax is the highest compensated injury producer in the current " vaccine court".
Is that right? I'd thought the Gardisil shots were.
We have known since around 2006 from a government funded study that the flu vaccine does nothing to change mortality in the elderly. Needless to say the government did its best to quash the information lest people get the wrong idea.
I had the flu vaccine in 2016 - 2018. PCP recommended it. Same PCP who cancelled my scheduled appointment in Dec 2020 because I had headaches (part of the symptoms of Covid checklist), but could not be bothered to check up on me afterward.
One of the many disappointments of Covid was how it showed doctors true colors. My PCP wears a mask every time I see her. When we had the vaccine talk, I began to sincerely wonder where she came up with her degree in medicine. Was it a correspondence course?
it's been the long game for some time
Fauci's own words about "universal flu vaccines" and a sprinkling of the DNA-Based vaccines to come: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1002842
That time we reconstructed the 1918 Spanish Flu: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/reconstruction-1918-virus.html
And Modern a (and their allies in the MSM) are now excitedly promoting an mRNA vaccine for cancer!!!!!
That was their original goal from their founding but, thus far, they've failed hugely.....COVID has opened the door......a LOT of people do not realize that MODERNA was next in line for a criminal fraud investigation after Theranos but, again, COVID pulled them from the jaws of investors......just look at what they are doing to this Sam Bankman Fried character....whether you are Elizabeth Holmes, or Sam you can be their darling one moment and their demon the next if you get between them and their money.....these people only desire risk free profit....this is a topic for his "Gatoness" to do a post on for it is what is driving this Idiocracy and with it the future.
....it is easy and quick to produce and can increase shareholder return....this is what matters to today's large corporations who have to answer their big money investors.....
But the financial marketing was Neely married to the public health marketing. The "Do No Harm" premise was change to "You must take this injection to help vulnerable people other than yourselves." Never mind there was no risk from the flu to you: you're now responsible for someone else.(And the flu shot never worked on the elderly at all.)
I have a cousin who is a doctor and he and my mother went head to head a couple of times. He actually told her that no one has died from the jab. Two other doctors warned her not to take ivm. Trust has left the building.
😲 my doctor told me “they’ll lock you up in a psych ward before they give you an exemption” and then suggested I move country. Never went back obviously. Eventually found a doctor willing to do his job, who issued my exemption.
The exemption is the Constitution.
you would think
I've always thought the exemption issue was a stop gap at best when we should be really focusing on why the vaccine should be mandated to begin with. Exemptions can be ignored, and we have seen this. I suppose what I am after is to bring this battle out in the open where it belongs. If the government is going to take away our rights, I want them to do it honestly. The fact that they furtively avoid it shows at least some purpose to either ignore it or deny that it is occurring.
*australian perspective
I agree in principle, but the reality is most unvaxxed couldn’t work without one. I went to Bali in July 2022, would have been forced to quarantine 5 days in a hotel at my own expense if I hadn’t had an exemption. Could not attend yoga or Physio without one. So they are necessary in the short term, but also I agree that the focus ought to be on the mandates
A recent survey here in NZ shows that doctors are still by far the most trusted profession…blew my mind
Well, this is a country where they have a 90% vaccination rate.
They're building mRNA manufacture plants everywhere in Aus now (well, NSW and QLD definitely). And there's talk at parliament level of making farmers inject their livestock.
If all goes according to plan, soon it will be in our food supply down here, and mRNA concoctions on tap at any and every GP office.
In the food chain and we are all fkd 🙄
Time to learn to hunt game 😎 Actually I've been shopping at farmers markets for years and the farmers are all wise to it... plans already being put together... there will definitely be resistance, whether overt or underground. But if you shop at Coles (which, why would you?!) then you're screwed.
Not so easy to hunt in my country
Damn. Fish? You might have to go vegan lol.
I'm a full on carnivore and only eat wild fish cos they vaccinate the farmed ones. But even wild fish have toxic build up so I limit it to no more than twice a week
They mean to poison us. That's the logical conclusion one can draw from all of this.
If someone can posit an innocent explanation for getting mRNA into every living human being, I'd love to hear it. Until then, I remain at Defcon 2.
And you maybe soon at DefCon 1, the ultimate your survival versus their forcing you. Dr. Vernon Coleman wrote something back at the start of this journey regarding the jabs and how he felt the potential for it to go shockingly wrong (well, right if you of the Death Cult persuation).
Incompetence. The sunk cost logical fallacy train wreck they are taking over the cliff. I really believer in the "rule by rube" postulate that these people really believe in it. Still don't understand why they mandate something that can't prevent infection/transmission.
Yes, I am 100% sure that something nefarious, to put it mildly, is underway. God help us.
I imagine the farmers will simply inject it into the trash.
I read that they already use the mrna in short living food animals like chickens. I am now somewhat reluctant to eat it. I don't know if it is true and i found not much about it.
Thanks, Dr. Byram Bridle wrote an article about mRNA being inserted into the food supply. OUR food supply, no theirs, that is...
Do you have a link? Can't find anything.
https://viralimmunologist.substack.com/p/lettuce-vectored-mrna-vaccines?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
A local grocery chain , Winn Dixie , in north Florida carries Aussie and NZ beef. Thanks for the heads up!
horrifying
It really is endlessly amazing how many people, including medical doctors, blithely assumed all sorts of convenient things that anyone who'd been paying attention would have known were not true. I fired my doctor, too.
Since your wife is a pharmacist, perhaps you might find this transcript of interest:
Australian Pharmacist Li Chu on Why He Did Not Comply -- EXCERPT
The Explosive Interview with an Outcast Pharmacist from Darwin [Australia]
Cafe Locked out
Published May 17, 2022
https://rumble.com/v15444z-the-explosive-pharmacist-from-darwin.html
TRANSCRIPT - EXCERPT
[TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:
Originally from Penang, Malaysia, Li Chu is not a native English speaker, so you may note a number of minor errors that are not necessarily mistakes in the transcription itself. Cafe Locked Out "was started to defend free speech by refusing to be silent." You can find many more interviews all around Australia by Michael Gray Griffith at https://cafelockedout.com/ ]
1:58
LI CHU: OK. First thing is, when the covid starts to hit in this world, I'm the first one, because I'm a health professional, I'm a pharmacist, and my curiosity always to find out what is really going on. And I do my own research, I do my own searching, doesn't take long. You know that this is just some kind of— At first, in the first probably in the first month or so probably in the early days you might think it's quite dangerous because not much information about it. But regardless, I believe that, I believe that your human body is the most powerful immune system.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: If you know how to manage it, if you know how to optimize it. So I'm, in the last five years I have been doing my courses, I'm a nutritional therapist as well, I'm a function medicine health coach as well, so I do know about nutrition. And first thing I know is I look it up and then I see that you need to just boost your immune system the first thing. And I went to dig deeper, so—
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Just, what's a quick natural way to boost your immune system?
LI CHU: Oh, easy. I think most people knows about this. Vitamin C, high dose, 1 gram. Is not a medical advice by the way. I think whoever's listening, we know enough that we always take proactive to get our best of it. I do know that it's very safe, Vitamin C alone. I never see anyone overdose Vitamin C by the way. And Vitamin C 1 gram every 1 or 2 hours until you reach bowel tolerance. Basically you need to know how much Vitamin C you need. There is just one way. And another one is Vitamin D, Vitamin D3, you need to be a higher range of the Vitamin D. I personally take 5,000 IU a day.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Wow.
LI CHU: If you go under the sun with 10,000 IU you can— My kind of skin if you could go under the full sun you can get 10,000 IU, international units, in half an hour. So you're going to say that I'm going to overdose under the sun?
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: [laughs]
LI CHU: So it is only a problem with someone with kidney problems with Vitamin D. You hardly get overdose of Vitamin D as well, but it is possible as well. As professional I can say. So these are the main one. So even with that alone you can reduce your chances of even getting severe disease of the covid as well.
4:29
And from, as a follow you can see that actually I think that in the beginning I noticed that it's just more like a common cold. And then when they say that they're starting to want to make vaccine, I knew straight away that they are up to something because you don't want to treat something, common cold with vaccine. It's like, it's so disproportionate you want to do it within a year or very short time. There's even no logical in that.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: So as a pharmacist, by the way we inject people, but amazing thing is, based on my own personal conviction, I never, I— when they asked about in the pharmacy to jab people with the covid, I'm the only one that refused to.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Wow.
LI CHU: And I'm the only one in my company of how many, many people in our company, that, I'm the only one that refused to do it. And then also based on personal conviction and I also refused to get myself as well.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: Basically you have to believe what you're doing what you're doing so that's the reason why that I'm not allowed to work. This is very strange thing is, before during the vaccine coming up, you can work and you are are working your, yeah, everyone's locked down everything and you still have to work the whole hours of the day, you work your ass off in a way, in a sense anyway. [laughs]. Sorry.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: No, we can swear on here. Ass, ass, ass.
LI CHU: Oh, yeah, yeah, OK. Good. [laughs] I don't swear by the way. Yeah. So basically after, after the, when you have the vaccine, suddenly you can't work because you are so dangerous now.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: So doesn't really make sense. I mean challenged all my colleagues all the way, that you know, whatever you can—
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: What did they say? Because you're very analytical and you know what you're talking about. So what did your colleagues, what was their argument about?
LI CHU: Oh they, at the end if I always show the facts, I don't want to go all the facts thing because I think more important is to make people aware. And basically it's every time you put on the facts, they will say that, oh, this media say this, this media say that. So if you talk about media saying this and that, then of course there is the facts that they're receiving, so it's a totally different. But every time you use like common sense and stuff like— [interruption, someone at the door]—
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Come in.
LI CHU: And you don't, you, if you use your common sense, like, why you wear the mask if it is virus so small? Everyone knows the virus particle is very small.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: That's why if you do biological labs and all this you need to wear all this they call it bunny suit that you putting on that they do the experiment on viruses. And then you have someone wearing surgical mask or wearing cloth mask and all this stuff. So a lot of things doesn't make sense. And they always say, that— at the end, if you dig deeper, like I know my colleague and all this, I ask them personal question, they always say one thing. What can you do? I have to feed my family.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Oh really? So that's [inaudible].
LI CHU : Yes. And I say that, you jabbing, OK. Let's say later on, when I notice that more and more people get injured, I show them the facts, and they will just say that, what can you do? And then—
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: So they're willing to injure people to feed their families.
LI CHU: Yes, that's exactly what, I will say all doctors, our profession, that's, that's I believe you will be indictment with the same thing if you know the danger and the damage that it can cause and then you still do it. There's no difference from someone that murders someone than if you do if you happened to get someone injured. That's my conviction. I'm very straight to my superior, manager. I told him, to his face, because he's my friend, so I say that. Are you going to do this, and then regret for the rest of your life? Or? The only thing he can say is, what can I do, I got to feed my family. And that is means that your family, your money, basically it's the money, basically, money to feed your family is more important than your conviction of morality, or your ethical as health professional, as ethical.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: It's the Hippocratic Oath.
LI CHU: Yeah, Hippocratic Oath. First do no harm.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: So this is something that, being a strong Christian, this is something that I cannot compromise. Because I'm not answering to man. I'm answering to God.
MICHAEL GRAY GRIFFITH: Yeah.
LI CHU: That's even bigger responsibility.
[END OF EXCERPT]
No one should be giving/getting ANY “vaccine “...
you were lucky ! in fact you don't even have to be a pharmacist to know these jabs are fake. Who injects a bad ingredient from a shampoo into their body ! PEG is not good, neither is polysorbate (used in J&J) I only worked one year as secretary in a cosmetics lab and I knew that. And most vaccines contain mercury and aluminum. Very healthy that is ! You should not cook in aluminum pots but inject it in a kid's body is fine.
is there some sort of support group for healthcare workers who have some critical thinking skills and integrity? or maybe we just start our own accreditation group- since we cant always rely on masks as a signal...
We can start one!
I’m in!
Amen!!
Who gives their kids a flu vax? Well, 20+ years ago, I did. Didn't know any better.
Oldest kid (then 2) and husband caught flu the week before Christmas. When I took her to the pediatrician, he said, "You know you can get flu shots for kids, don't you?" So the next fall, we got her a flu shot. Added baby brother the year after that. Husband was already getting the flu shot at work, my work offered them. None of us got flu, no obvious side effects of the shots. Pediatric clinic was really ramping up flu shots for children within a few years. They'd schedule special after-hours "clinics" to do nothing but give flu shots.
Then came 2009 and H1N1 "swine" flu. Husband and (by now school-aged) kids caught the piggy flu only a week or two after school started in August. I didn't isolate from the three of them, or wear a mask, or refuse to hug the kids, none of that mess. And I didn't get the flu. We continued getting flu shots.
For the next three years, husband and at least one kid got the flu every. stinking. flu season. (I still didn't.) It finally clicked with me that the shot wasn't doing any good. It wasn't stopping my family from getting infected, and I couldn't tell that it was making symptoms any milder. Tamiflu didn't seem to be doing much to help, either.
So I quit. No more flu shots for me or the kids...and they stopped getting the flu. Husband took the shot one more year, then quit...and he stopped getting the flu. They might have caught it once in the next 5 or 6 years. Husband realized he also wasn't coming down with other upper-respiratory crud twice every winter anymore.
I'm of a generation that didn't take dozens of doses of childhood vaccines by age 5 or 6. My vax certificate from 1980 lists requirements of 3 or 4 doses each of DTP and oral polio vaccine, and one each of measles, mumps, and rubella (they were separate shots back then). I also distinctly remember getting the smallpox shot in 1970, because it scabbed over and left a scar.
I'm done. I don't know that I'll ever take another vaccine, except maybe for tetanus (and rabies, if the situation ever came up).
and of course no doc ever told you what was in it ! Thanks for your testimony ! I am going to keep it for my needle worshipers !
"soon you will not be able to trust injections to NOT use mRNA programming" ~ exactly right, IMO.
The same ones that would probably give their kids a covid vaccine despite it not affecting children pretty much at all. I think only 300 kids in the past two years suffered at the hands of Covid.
Too many people sadly.
It's a great pity you mentioned polio because it's a fraud, much like covid but it's based on toxic poisoning. Look up Forrest mareadys' book moth in the iron lung.
i know the book. it's a whole bunch of speculative and misused data pulled together by someone who was clearly WAY out of their depth.
the evidence for the IPV polio vaxx is very strong. (the oral trash gates pushes is not)
I like Forest Maready - but am learning to value the balance of discussion. Fact is, the polio vaccine worked the way vaccines were supposed to, with today’s formulation being the beneficiary of a lot of data and reformulation to get one that was more beneficial than harmful. The fact that they touted polio - which had decades of study, and even decades of attempts at create a vaccine - in comparison to a new, bioengineered virus is absurd.
For the record, Forest Maready’s hypothesis that the poliovirus was common and probably not even noticed until it started paralyzing small children, and that its ability to cause paralysis *could* be the destruction of the gut’s ability to handle the virus stands up to reason for me, but actually encourages vaccination, not discourages it. Heaven knows our microbiome is less able to handle things these days, so the vaccine is a safer route. And fair and balanced history would support that.
But look at the rest of the childhood schedule of vaccines, and we have a problem. Full protection from consequence has made them less likely to pursue safety and safety studies first before injecting babies. And it’s criminal.
Okay but, and I am NOT saying IPV doesn't "work" to elicit a pre-set specific immune response to poliovirus (which we must remember is not the same as banishing childhood paralysis, which has other causes). And MAYBE it will turn out -- when any effort is made to fully understand associated non-specific effects of either IPV or OPV -- that yes indeed if you use it, you will increase your chances for enjoying more overall health/longer life than a person who does not. But maybe that won't turn out to be the case. Either way, at present, deep and unyielding (and massively pharma/PH guarded) assumptions that polio vaccination MUST be the best approach to preventing childhood paralysis without introducing new problems, prevent us from actually funding and proceeding with the critical path inquiry that might yield up a more clear reason for why the great majority of people pre-vaccine were/are NOT in any way harmed by natural poliovirus encounters, and the identity of the factors which together bring about the poor outcome of paralysis. Clarity which might push our understanding of health maintenance in general.
Your point underlines the main message of the post really. Like everyone else, I thought the Polio vaccines saved the world from a terrible disease. When I saw the blatent con that is the current injectables regime, I started researching vaccines and viruses in general. And you are right, insecticide poisoning is at least as plausible as the virus as a causitive agent and I would personally give it a 90% probability of being so. I am now deeply suspicious of any pharmaceutical interventions, especially vaccines. I've had the full series recommended, as has my daughter, but I would look very carefully at any future vaccines being offered.
According to this smallpox/measles is also a blatant con:
https://odysee.com/@katie.su:7/thetruthaboutsmallpox:9
i know it's a hotbutton for folks, but the fact is that MMR is a very effective vaccine if you take any sort of serious look at the data.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/assessing-the-case-for-childhood
But at what cost
if you are referring to MMR side effects, they are very, very low.
the autism thing appears entirely baseless, was initially based on fraudulent studies, and has been well refuted.
no phama is 100% without side effects, but MMR appears to have excellent risk reward. i address this using data in the piece i linked
Too bad they control the means of communication
Can’t just quickly Google info to refute your link
As much as I respect your work this an area where I respectfully disagree
Vaccinated two older kids they have learning challenges chronic health issues
Flipped with my third. Not s single jab.
Kid is healthy walked early talked early rarely ill. And he was born in my 40s.
Yeah it’s anecdata but we had a sudden infant death on my side of the family and when I told my pediatrician why we decided to stop bc of an infant death she said “oh they don’t make the vaccines like that anymore. “
Yiiiikes.
Anyway I’ll take my chances with easily survivable childhood diseases over chronic lifelong issues further enslaving us to the medical industrial regime.
“the autism thing appears entirely baseless”
Really?? I’d love for you to debate this point with Toby:
https://open.substack.com/pub/tobyrogers/p/the-political-economy-of-autism?r=gse79&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
https://a.co/d/410LLSY
Even better , listen to the phone calls yourself.
It’s only “effective” because doctors simply labeled the skin rash and other symptoms as something else. Your argument that incidence has gone down doesn’t hold. You have to see the whole shell game in order to understand how you’ve been fooled. If you can show there is any fundamental difference between smallpox, chicken pox, measles, mon(k)eypox, etc. then let’s see the evidence! That video reference claims that the scientific literature is confused about exactly the difference between all of these “diseases.” Call me skeptical, but given how deep the bullshit is getting, I demand evidence for your claims that also addresses this issue of simply calling “measles” something else!
I agree. How can you trust any of their data? Either you understand that Rockefeller was trying to kill with his vaccine research or you don't. Either you understand that millions died from his WW1 enfluenza vaccine or you don't. Who was Rockefeller? Was he a humanitarian philanthropist who wanted the greatest good for the greatest number? Or was he unbelievably wealthy and from a Satanic family? Do exceedingly wealthy people love poor people, or are they secretly trying to kill everyone they consider less than themselves? Do the very wealthy see poor people as a threat to their way of life? Is there a secret war on poor people being fought by the very wealthy? Do the very wealthy Satanic people on Earth wish to kill poor (Christian) people or do they want billions of happy healthy poor people? It seems that El Gato doesn't even understand the planet he is living on. I doubt people like that will ever understand what's going on. He'll still be talking about data points when we're incinerating piles of bodies.
I had both the Salk and Sabin vaccines in the 50's. I also had 2 small Pox vaccinations - one required for public school attendance, the other 12 years later as a requirement for college. I had rubella as a child, and it was seriously horrible. Also had measles and mumps, but not seriously ill. This vaccination hysteria needs to differentiate vaccines, not condemn all.
My daughter had a nasty enterovirus last year that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. There is no vaccine for enteroviruses which is interesting bc polio is technically one. It’s suspiciously the only enterovirus we have a vax for.
She survived and it’s over. I take it you did too with rubella.
I never bemoaned the fact there was no vaccine. We just sucked it up and dealt with it. It’s a part of life unfortunately.
Now would you trade a short term childhood illness for say rheumatoid arthritis? A chronic autoimmune disease for life as a result of a vax ?
I’m not saying they don’t work I’m saying they are not being considered in the proper context of all that could go wrong with them. And there’s no way to know until it’s too late.
Id rather have a child get sick and survive then a dead child. Or a child with chronic life long ills due to the shots is my point.
I see your thought process, but I'm with el Gato on this. Vaccines are not all equal, and I don't think we have any way now to effectively perform a cost/benefit analysis.
And the final nail in the "vaccine safety and efficacy" coffin is being put in as we speak:
https://substack.com/saved/post/90072956
"Vaccination agenda in general has been based on hiding the evidence and massive scientific fraud perpetrated for decades."
And from the referenced study:
"Based upon the size of the random sample of adult controls, the odds that vaccines are NOT the cause of well over 90% of the disabling chronic conditions suffered by Americans over the age of 18 are 1 in 245,083,100,778,672,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000(or p < 4.08E-63). This profound evidence of cause is exponentially more certain than the highest threshold standard of proof relied upon in any branch of science in existence today."
That really large number is about 3 orders of magnitude larger the number of atoms in the universe.
https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/the-next-battle-will-be-over-measles?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Let my niece know who now has epilepsy.
Hey another one! In this little substack community. Would you look at that.
Which could be from a number of causes
Bullshit. Her Iowa city doctors told the parents not to vaccinate her siblings. After 2.5 years of living on a strictly keto for epilepsy diet, her brain is almost healed.
and since mmr has irradiated measles, we now have 5ths disease, foot & mouth, & RSV (which is much more dangerous). mumps, measles, rubella were inconveniences, but I've never known anyone that had a birth defect from it or had a family member that was even hospitalized, much less died, from mmr. I know many that have been hospitalized from RSV.
eradicated not irradiated..🤦♀️
Again, I'd love to see you debate Toby Rogers or Mathew Crawford on this. Please, take a really close look at the QUALITY of these studies:
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-cdcs-failure-to-use-multivariate
"Quant genius Mathew Crawford is doing a brilliant series of articles exploring the possibility that vaccine efficacy — for all vaccines — may be zero and that any claimed benefit from shots is actually a wealth effect (said differently, when one controls for wealth any supposed benefit from the vaccine disappears). I would like to add my two cents to this debate."
From Toby's article above:
"There are about 20 studies that the CDC points to as showing that there is no relationship between vaccines and autism. I assumed that I would not be able to read or understand these studies at all. Given what I knew about the complexity of econometrics, and knowing that the human body, biology, chemistry, and the immune system are even more complex than economics, I assumed that I would be looking at equations involving calculus, that used advanced statistical software to analyze hundreds or perhaps thousands of variables that impact health and disease.
The reality is quite different. Vaccine safety studies tend to be bivariate — they only look at two variables — the vaccine (independent variable) and whether someone suffered an adverse event (dependent variable). It’s actually even worse than that. Vaccine safety studies almost always look at children who have received the full vaccine schedule as compared with children who have received the full schedule +1 more vaccine. And on that basis, they decide whether the 1 additional vaccine is safe. There is no unvaccinated control group. And they do not control for hundreds of other variables that influence health and disease.
When I read a vaccine safety study for the first time, a sickening panic swept over me — “no, no, no, this cannot possibly be. THIS is what the CDC is relying upon!? THIS is what the CDC is using to claim that vaccines are safe!?” Far from being too advanced, these studies are so crude they would fail any Statistics 101 class in any college in America. Tears streamed down my face.
So I read another, and another, and another “vaccine safety” study (eventually reading all 20). And they were all the same. These studies are preposterous because they cannot possibly answer the question they are trying to tackle because their methods are too basic. Vaccine safety studies contain no biology, no chemistry, and vanishingly little statistics. These people are doing arithmetic, badly. In fact, they resemble a card trick more than anything having to do with science. I realized that the CDC has no idea what it is doing — the entire field of pediatrics and public health is a Potemkin Village, a Ponzi scheme, the worst intellectual fraud that I have ever seen.
I wept because of the implications (and hoped against hope that I was misunderstanding something). These are some of the most consequential studies ever produced — because their findings impact the health of 95% of the children in the developed world. Yet the field itself is stunted and basic — at least 100 years behind their colleagues in the physical sciences or even the quantitative branches of the social sciences. The vulgarity of vaccine safety studies is covered up by the PR machine for the most ruthless industry in the world (and a web of financial relationships that has become “too big to fail”)."
Just curious ~ did you read Turtles All The Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth?
Remember "DDT is good for me?" That just might be the polio "virus." SO much poisoning disguised as viruses.
Maybe this will turn into a great natural experiment. We’ve tried vaxxing kids for everything under the sun for decades and it doesn’t appear to have improved general health outcomes (obviously there are myriad other factors at play). What happens when we stop?
When you read children’s literature from the past two centuries, measles is sometimes mentioned in passing. And usually it’s not a big deal. My own sisters had measles as kids. NBD. They also had beter sanitation etc. than our parents’ generation.
We just interviewed opa and oma for history class and I gotta say hearing about their post war living conditions really brought home the difference between the 50s and the 60s in a big way. More convincing than any graph.
well, in marin, kids started getting measles again...
and measles is really unpleasant and has a non-trivial complication rate.
the vaccine has an excellent risk reward.
you can see that (based on hard data) here:
even post side effects: it's a 99%+ risk reducer for death and severe outcomes.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/assessing-the-case-for-childhood
Well then if people want it they should be able to take it. They should also be able to say no they don’t want it. They should also be able to say they only want a measles shot and not a combi shot. They also should be able to sue the manufacturer if something does go wrong. There should also be more information about what can go wrong. No one told me my child might develop epilepsy after a poorly timed one size fits all dose. The risk is not zero and the risk is all mine. Statistics don’t matter when you’re playing Russian roulette. And at this point in time, I'm not sure I believe that the risks have been calculated correctly at all. Gaslighting around vaccines is as old as the intervention itself. I would take measles over severe epilepsy any day. Speaking of really unpleasant.
lol Marin, I grew up there. Total granolas when it came to vaccines, health, etc. Due to Pan, huge homeschooling community too. Now, they are all on the Covid vax bandwagon and scream and hate those who choose to think for themselves, including the homeschool groups!. Such whiplash! I hate visiting because my entire family really bought into the scam (one has had 6 shots now!) and have called me every name in the book for my decision. Same with Vashon Island in WA (good friend and El Gato Fan is from there, kept me apprised of all the insanity). Would be a fascinating article to really dive into how propaganda worked on these supposed free thinking, hippie enclaves
Here's the thing: people have complicated lives and aren't interested/don't have time/motivation to "research" childhood vaccines.
So they will default to two positions:
1. CDC schedule
2. None
Because "the MMR is safe, but I don' want a tetanus for my infant" is just too hard. Plus, there will be pushback from doctors if parents want to do concierge injections. Consequently... all or nothing.
Yes - pushback from doctors is a huge factor.
I completely understand your point, I think.
Everything is a balancing act of medical risk and rewards. Do you think we know enough about the full & true adverse effects of the MMR vaccine to be able to make that calculation in an informed manner? No way.
And why have what appears to now be an inert, outdated mumps vaxx mixed in with it? Is that cost free? I don't think it is: we ought NEVER to take useless shots which are all risk and no reward.
I'm in education, and we have information systems upon information systems of data from every single test/assessment taken. At the drop of a hat, or fairly easily, we could compare various demographic characteristics, or class history, with one's performance on State or local Assessments. (I'm sure, with what I see you write, that you know considerably more about this than I ever could.) If you took Mr. Jones' math class, I can tell you with a good degree of certainty, looking at your other testing results, that you will most likely perform extremely well on this or that test/assessment.
With all the freaking electronic data and medical tracking we experience, you cannot tell me that NO ONE has ever looked at the correlations of childhood vaccines and future health outcomes. We all know that if the outcomes were dispositive concerning the efficacy and safety of vaccines that the results would be shown ... and they'd rub the data in our faces every single time someone raised any objections.
There's NO POSSIBLE WAY that this hasn't been done by many people who have access to the data.
Let's see the data so that we can make truly informed decisions!
Hear hear
"What happens when we stop?"
Florida "Vaccine Hesitancy" REDUCED Infant Mortality in 2021
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/florida-vaccine-hesitancy-reduced?
I don’t “vaccinate “ my children
The vax program and the assault on “alternative” medicine and real food suppressed and sidelined efforts to find real treatments for these diseases that would enhance immune fitness without the risks of shots.
When I was a kid, 70 or so years ago, when a neighbor kid got measles or chicken pox, all the moms had their kids go play with him/her so they would catch it and be immunized. Big Pharma and radical leftists in government have changed all this. Gato Malo lays the recent attack on humanity and our freedom delightfully well in today's piece. Bears repeating:
"no scott, it was your and yours that did this by lying, pushing bad drugs as panacea, adopting obsessive focus on pseudoscientific and outright superstitious disease avoidance modalities, and turning public health into a hyper partisan pander-fest that then failed, caught fire, fell over, and sank into the fetid swamps from which this impulse seemingly sprung." Using government to buy millions (billions?) of doses of what real doctors were warning would have dangerous and widespread side effects, and then force people to take them is what Big Pharma has wet dreamed of for decades. And massive death dealing side effects are what global fascists like Gates and Schwab are even better than the diseases they and ghouls like Fraudci have been spending years and billions on creating. We are indeed under attack, and the Gates of Hell appear to have been breached...
Buried in plain site in this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1712354/ is the known fact that vitamin A deficiency is a HUGE, if not the number one, cause of morbidity and mortality in measles. The MMR does have risks, it's just difficult to determine what they are because of the confounding factors, but the researchers inside the vaccine program have certainly seen them. However, NO attention is ever paid to figuring out why kids in the wealthy west might be susceptible to measles, and how to address that, since there is no money in it.
what is the difference between the 50s and the 60s? I understand differences between 1900s and 1930s, and 1930s and 1960s -- but I'm interested in what you wrote there about what happened between the 50s and 60s.
I was thinking about how poorly I worded that as opa and oma were born in the early part of the decade and my sisters were born in the later part of the decade. So it's really more like a twenty year gap. Also maybe Europe had a harder time after the war than the USA, but my mother grew up very poor in rural Idaho and had very similar tales to tell. So without resorting to cited sources, quality of life was way better within two decades.
Can you share anything you learned from the interviews?
They lived in cramped quarters with the whole family, badly isolated single pane glass, no running water in the home. Had to heat up water in a tub for sponge baths or go to the bath house, so hygiene was intermittent. Shared toilets with other apartments. Stove was gas and you needed a special token to turn it on, so it was prepaid and “gone was gone.” Heating was coal, which as you can imagine was dirty and unsafe. Food scraps and rags collected weekly and people prepaid their funerals with an insurance collector each month. Honestly in my head these were conditions you hear about in the 19th century. But no, this was Amsterdam in the mid twentieth century. And listen, I am of the mind that living too clean is also a recipe for weak bodies, but the timing with our raised living standards and the miracle vaccines is awfully convenient for miracle vaccines. Speaking of doing a sun dance at 6 am....
There were contemporary health writers who said that too much credit was being given to vaccines
In Aus it's the same. You catch them in the lie and they breeze on, like the wind made a noise - did it? we didn't notice...
Arkmedic has done great work catching them out
https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/catch-me-if-you-can
And I've caught a few myself
https://rebekahbarnett.substack.com/p/i-asked-nsw-health-for-susan-pearces
But am a little despairing at the moment as it seems no one but the 10% gives a shit.
I am at the point where I'm thinking perhaps the only way to make anyone other than us care (and therefore, gain critical mass for something to be done about it) is to make it our personal mission, all of us, to persuade 1-2 people to join Team Reality. Turn the 10% into 30%.
It IS despairing to see friends have micro strokes and flair-ups of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis and not even give a thought that these issues are likely caused by the vaccines.
And it seems no one is doing autopsies with an eye bent on vaccine caused deaths on these people dropping dead from SADS.
But we keep pushing; not giving up and at least not forgetting what they did.