Yes, AIDS may have been a fraud. There was/is dispute over whether virus(es) even cause it. RFK JR.'s Fauci book covers this extensively.
But accusations of fraud in one instance should not invalidate the theory, well established so far as I know, that viruses exist and yes, believe it or not, they do cause a lot of human illness. You ar…
Yes, AIDS may have been a fraud. There was/is dispute over whether virus(es) even cause it. RFK JR.'s Fauci book covers this extensively.
But accusations of fraud in one instance should not invalidate the theory, well established so far as I know, that viruses exist and yes, believe it or not, they do cause a lot of human illness. You are of course free to (dis-)believe as you wish. I've debated folks elsewhere who deny that any viruses exist!
Brian, you really paint yourself as a fool when you raise issues like this. Being skeptical of official dogma is one thing, and is very useful. But quite frankly, disputing established scientific knowledge (without any convincing refutation) is ignorance at best, at worst, marks you as a troll, someone intent on discrediting others in our "movement."
Viruses, bacteria, and other microscopic organisms exist. This has been known and studied going back to the 17th century. Many of them cause illness in humans and other life. Many have been well-studied. Abundant scientific proofs have been done. A Nobel prize was awarded for identifying the HIV virus, for crying out loud. If you think you can prove otherwise, by all means, write that paper, get published and collect your Nobel! 😁
I don't have to prove otherwise, the burden of proof is on those who claim viruses exist and cause disease. Can you cite one paper that proves that HIV or SARS-COV-2 has been isolated as a fully intact genome from a sick individual, not assembled in a sequencing program? If you can, dozens of professionals are eager to read it.
While a convincing refutation is nice to have, it is an entirely different issue. Viruses either exist or they don't. They either cause disease or they don't.
Yes, AIDS may have been a fraud. There was/is dispute over whether virus(es) even cause it. RFK JR.'s Fauci book covers this extensively.
But accusations of fraud in one instance should not invalidate the theory, well established so far as I know, that viruses exist and yes, believe it or not, they do cause a lot of human illness. You are of course free to (dis-)believe as you wish. I've debated folks elsewhere who deny that any viruses exist!
Brian, you really paint yourself as a fool when you raise issues like this. Being skeptical of official dogma is one thing, and is very useful. But quite frankly, disputing established scientific knowledge (without any convincing refutation) is ignorance at best, at worst, marks you as a troll, someone intent on discrediting others in our "movement."
Viruses, bacteria, and other microscopic organisms exist. This has been known and studied going back to the 17th century. Many of them cause illness in humans and other life. Many have been well-studied. Abundant scientific proofs have been done. A Nobel prize was awarded for identifying the HIV virus, for crying out loud. If you think you can prove otherwise, by all means, write that paper, get published and collect your Nobel! 😁
You have used several logical fallacies in your statement above:
==>Appeal to Authority:
"A Nobel prize was awarded for identifying the HIV virus"
A Nobel prize, while it would appear to be significant is not proof.
==>The Burden of Proof Fallacy
"If you think you can prove otherwise, by all means, write that paper"
I don't have to prove it is not viruses, those who claim it is viruses must prove their claim.
==>Appeal to Tradition
"This has been known and studied going back to the 17th century."
Based on what studies and experiments?
==>Ad Hominem (attacking the person)
"you really paint yourself as a fool when you raise issues like this."
"marks you as a troll"
Oh, so now a person is a troll who asks for evidence?
Do you have evidence or just logical fallacies to offer?
I don't have to prove otherwise, the burden of proof is on those who claim viruses exist and cause disease. Can you cite one paper that proves that HIV or SARS-COV-2 has been isolated as a fully intact genome from a sick individual, not assembled in a sequencing program? If you can, dozens of professionals are eager to read it.
While a convincing refutation is nice to have, it is an entirely different issue. Viruses either exist or they don't. They either cause disease or they don't.