Anyone ever see a valid scientific paper that analyzes the balance of CO2 to O2 in the atmosphere and show how we currently have a lopsided supply of either?
By "valid" I mean one where the math stands up to even causal scrutiny (meaning I don't' see a fatal flaw in 30 seconds or less).
And that seems like a fundamental thing to know before we start doing stuff to change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. There is the problem with wasting one's educational resources studying engineering, physics and math: I expect that before we can solve a problem, we need to know that there is an actual problem and we can define "solved" in a way that can be measured.
If there's anyone still out there who believes in anthropogenic CO2 affecting the climate - the best thing you can do is grow soil. That would be really constructive.
Even if you don't believe. Soil erosion is one of the looming problems that doesn't get enough coverage... (but you probably know that already, from your post 👍💕)
I believe it is possible. I manually move (and compost) annual hardwood leaf from forested area to my garden area. It only requires my time and metabolized calories. But, I still wonder how long this can continue. The leaves that I displace are no longer fertilizing the forest floor and those very trees. I can produce more vegetables than I can consume. I cannot imagine that it is sustainable. Eventually the leaf production will decrease due to my diversion.
"I cannot imagine that it is sustainable. Eventually the leaf production will decrease due to my diversion."
I disagree, M. aelpha. (Respectfully, cuz you know, maybe i'm wrong....)
Yes, You are right that the "(t)he leaves that i displace are no longer fertilizing the forest floor and those very trees", and you are likewise right (implicitly, if i read your words correctly) that "those very trees" must suffer *somewhat*.
You can no doubt see where i am going with the *italics*, eh?
I just don't think the world as a whole can possibly be hurt by your *better* use of the wonderful organic material (thank you, trees!) your beautiful human mind has put to magnificent use.
AND grow their food, make their clothes, build their houses, fix their plumbing, and keep the lights on, the water running, and the sewage flowing downhill!!
This is the logic: the high price of getting to work will force those peasants into buying new EVs that charge off the grid with power generated by coal fired power plants. You see all those working folks driving 20 year old cars are just too stubborn to get with the program. To the (wealthy) elite making the rules, it's not an economic dichotomy, it's a choice. For the working folks they're trying to steal from, it's simply not an option.
Those too poor to buy the right car are not entitled to the freedom of movement, and can get by on public transit. You see driving your own car is a privilege, not a right, something made very clear in the UK for decades. See how simple it is?
Simple. And clear. Your freedom hurts US. The ultimate justification for anything.
Natural gas is in deed superior to coal. But not available everywhere. The UK has reduced coal usage considerable in recent decades, and replaced most of that with natural gas (about 5% coal remains as best I can find - reliable figures are elusive). Prior to 2021 UK and Europe were getting a lot of natural gas form the US. Biden administration halted that which is good news for Russia as it now has Europe by the tender parts (gas, oil, coal). The UK has had to depend more on OPEC oil and natural gas by tanker - more expensive than the US supply.
The cleanest energy in the UK is nuclear, but currently they are reducing use of the good stuff. I could not find reliable info on how much of that nuke comes from France, but I'm guessing most of it. When Germany and UK announced they would decom nuclear, France started building new nuclear power plants.
America is exporting record amounts of LNG and it’s no longer expensive like in 2022. Never bet against the American fracking industry as Tillerson did in 2005 because fracking always wins.
The US was exporting record amounts of LNG - much less since 2021 when caps on exports were reinstated. Canada has increased its exports which, according to at least one industry report I read last year, is helping the UK (part of the Americas). But US exports to Europe were cut by the Biden admin, which put Russia back on top. It is no coincidence that when the US was a top exporter of energy products, Russia's expansion into E. Europe slowed to a stop (2017-2020). Russia is once again dominant in Europe and OPEC+Russia again in control of energy products worldwide. Not because the US can't compete - it was proven that our industry has the capacity and ability to compete - and win. The US has the capacity to produce all we need AND export enough to support Europe with cost effective, clean energy. It is strictly policy that is keeping the US form doing so at the scale of which we are capable and creating. Which has restored the revenue stream to Russia to support Putin's "reunification" objectives (restore the former soviet territories to "one" again).
How’s this? War hero extraordinary John Kerry, Climate UnderFurher, told us he didn’t have a private jet, although his wife did, he needed it to save the peasants and the peasants had no right to know who his government paid assistants were, and I believed him. Clear enough?
Yes because every dollar I take from you helps restore the carbon balance. I am smarter than you and will use your money to do good things like educate kids about man made climate change, ambiguity of gender, and systemic unconscious racism. And that will reverse climate change, restore ecological balance, force third world nations and China from burning coal, and restore harmony to the universe. It's 21st century math ;-)
The educate kids part is scary to me. I got upset about the gender stuff, specifically lack of transparency so I could counteract at home, and my parent friends laughed at me saying my argument doesn’t hold water unless I vet all materials. I replied that I actually do. Just this week noticed a very random passage in a spelling workbook about compulsory conscription. Are you freaking kidding me? My child is ten. Tell me again that the curriculum writers aren’t planting seeds...
I have not met Sadiq Khan personally. I did note the news this morning in London is that he's dropped, for now, the planned non-EV tax, likely due to the inability to enforce it, perhaps? Not because he noted the economic discrimination behind it I think.
I note the Brit media seems to love him. I suspect that when he blamed Trump for being targeted by "racism" that cemented him in the favor of the media ;-)
I have always been rebellious, but ungovernable has a more je ne sais quoi ring to it. From now on, I shall express my rebelliousness by being ungovernable. Note, too, that eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. And yes, it's WAY PAST TIME to teach the totalitarians what it's like to try to herd cats.
Coincidentally, Transport for London is £13 billion in debt. However, I am quite sure that has absolutely nothing to do with the expansion of the ULEZ scheme in London. And instead of moaning about this worthy tax to improve the air quality, why don't these paupers go and buy an EV?
This is the most heartwarming story I’ve read in quite a while. Meanwhile the NYT lead article at the moment is “Covid is back!!! Aaahhh!!! Everybody freak out and get the latest and greatest booster and wear as many masks as you can get your hands on!!”
I wouldn't doubt that they were fully capable of buying plenty of defective cameras, and/or having incompetent installers/maintainers, without any cheery assistance of scammers.
You know what else is an ultra low emissions zone? A graveyard.
Can climate elites lead by example by permanently eliminating their own emissions? It will boost their ESG scores! https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-raise-your-esg-score
Member the scene in V for Vendetta where the government uses a virus to seize control over the people? I member!
Excuse me! Excuse me! Do you know a decomposing body produces hydrogen sulphide, methane, cadaverine and putrescine! Excuse me!
Just pulling your leg of coarse :-)
Oh, do I wish that was *all* you were doing...
"Excuse me". Isn't this what a Brit mutters when they've farted?
No that'll be "thank you"
A Dutchman would just put his thumb to forehead.
... or "Rover"!
Another source of green house gas - quickly, get the cameras!
Can't we just go back to calling it "out-house gas"?
That sounds *so* much more carbon-neutral-ish, dontcha think?
And is also consistent with most of the "science" behind these policies :-).
Bonus!
See, I just knew I believed in science.
No, that's their finger you pull.
Great News!....London's ULEZ will reduce global emissions by 0.000001%. You heard it here first.
https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/
I believe the phrase they use is Carbon Neutral.
So why not just plant more trees?
I agree that that would be a better way to achieve Carbon Neutrality.
I just don't think that's the plan they'd choose, given options.
Have to cut down the trees to make room for the windymills.
*nods* Smart
Anyone ever see a valid scientific paper that analyzes the balance of CO2 to O2 in the atmosphere and show how we currently have a lopsided supply of either?
By "valid" I mean one where the math stands up to even causal scrutiny (meaning I don't' see a fatal flaw in 30 seconds or less).
Nope. And I'm pretty sure that's because there is no known "ideal" value.
And that seems like a fundamental thing to know before we start doing stuff to change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. There is the problem with wasting one's educational resources studying engineering, physics and math: I expect that before we can solve a problem, we need to know that there is an actual problem and we can define "solved" in a way that can be measured.
Silly me...
The problem is "they" get to choose the plan "best" (read: most oppressive) for *me*.
Yeah, all that pesky "letting the peasants make their own choices" is messy.
Messy...and as beautiful as free market creative destruction.
If there's anyone still out there who believes in anthropogenic CO2 affecting the climate - the best thing you can do is grow soil. That would be really constructive.
Even if you don't believe. Soil erosion is one of the looming problems that doesn't get enough coverage... (but you probably know that already, from your post 👍💕)
I believe it is possible. I manually move (and compost) annual hardwood leaf from forested area to my garden area. It only requires my time and metabolized calories. But, I still wonder how long this can continue. The leaves that I displace are no longer fertilizing the forest floor and those very trees. I can produce more vegetables than I can consume. I cannot imagine that it is sustainable. Eventually the leaf production will decrease due to my diversion.
"I cannot imagine that it is sustainable. Eventually the leaf production will decrease due to my diversion."
I disagree, M. aelpha. (Respectfully, cuz you know, maybe i'm wrong....)
Yes, You are right that the "(t)he leaves that i displace are no longer fertilizing the forest floor and those very trees", and you are likewise right (implicitly, if i read your words correctly) that "those very trees" must suffer *somewhat*.
You can no doubt see where i am going with the *italics*, eh?
I just don't think the world as a whole can possibly be hurt by your *better* use of the wonderful organic material (thank you, trees!) your beautiful human mind has put to magnificent use.
Look for talks by Allan Savory on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVoPJrzB28w
"Member the scene in V for Vendetta where the government uses a virus to seize control over the people?"
I was always on the edge of watching V for Vendetta, but this aspect of the plot may put me over the top.
i always wonder why none of the overpopulation crowd ever volunteer to be the first to go
Ah but no. Rotting corpses emit methane, a green house gas. :-)
if your vehicle pollutes you can just pay a fee to continue to pollute,
that'll solve the problem!
only peasants pollute. Elites are trying to save the peasants.
they might try and remember its the peasants that build their jets
AND grow their food, make their clothes, build their houses, fix their plumbing, and keep the lights on, the water running, and the sewage flowing downhill!!
If the peasants are revolting, kill them off and import new peasants?
Modern politicians in the under-50 age range treat reality as if it's SimCity or Civilisation, or some other game of that genre.
"The People are Revolting."
"I know - they stink on ice!"
https://youtu.be/h0iAcQVIokg?si=5Fa3fWntKqPhRI-e
I find most peasants quite revolting.
Let them play video games, and stop the Dems from casting their votes for them.
wait? you mean AI cant do all those things for them?
And it will clear up your asthma, too.
i cured my asthma after suffering with it for 30 years, turns out its a diet related illness, foods cause inflammation.
bad omega 3 to omega 6 ratio and low vit D, magnesium etc
Of course it can. And change the baby's diaper too. Have we not been assured that AI, that wonderous new tool, can do EVERYTHING better than people.
There will always be peasants. The government will see to that.
Classic.
And that will "maintain" and "supply" (read: not) them.
This is the logic: the high price of getting to work will force those peasants into buying new EVs that charge off the grid with power generated by coal fired power plants. You see all those working folks driving 20 year old cars are just too stubborn to get with the program. To the (wealthy) elite making the rules, it's not an economic dichotomy, it's a choice. For the working folks they're trying to steal from, it's simply not an option.
Those too poor to buy the right car are not entitled to the freedom of movement, and can get by on public transit. You see driving your own car is a privilege, not a right, something made very clear in the UK for decades. See how simple it is?
Simple. And clear. Your freedom hurts US. The ultimate justification for anything.
EVs are essentially powered by natural gas—coal is just as dumb as smoking cigarettes when the world is awash in cheap natural gas.
Natural gas is in deed superior to coal. But not available everywhere. The UK has reduced coal usage considerable in recent decades, and replaced most of that with natural gas (about 5% coal remains as best I can find - reliable figures are elusive). Prior to 2021 UK and Europe were getting a lot of natural gas form the US. Biden administration halted that which is good news for Russia as it now has Europe by the tender parts (gas, oil, coal). The UK has had to depend more on OPEC oil and natural gas by tanker - more expensive than the US supply.
The cleanest energy in the UK is nuclear, but currently they are reducing use of the good stuff. I could not find reliable info on how much of that nuke comes from France, but I'm guessing most of it. When Germany and UK announced they would decom nuclear, France started building new nuclear power plants.
America is exporting record amounts of LNG and it’s no longer expensive like in 2022. Never bet against the American fracking industry as Tillerson did in 2005 because fracking always wins.
The US was exporting record amounts of LNG - much less since 2021 when caps on exports were reinstated. Canada has increased its exports which, according to at least one industry report I read last year, is helping the UK (part of the Americas). But US exports to Europe were cut by the Biden admin, which put Russia back on top. It is no coincidence that when the US was a top exporter of energy products, Russia's expansion into E. Europe slowed to a stop (2017-2020). Russia is once again dominant in Europe and OPEC+Russia again in control of energy products worldwide. Not because the US can't compete - it was proven that our industry has the capacity and ability to compete - and win. The US has the capacity to produce all we need AND export enough to support Europe with cost effective, clean energy. It is strictly policy that is keeping the US form doing so at the scale of which we are capable and creating. Which has restored the revenue stream to Russia to support Putin's "reunification" objectives (restore the former soviet territories to "one" again).
I just know you meant your 2nd sentence to be voiced with sarcasm quotes thusly: "save".
I like my satire to be very, very clear...
How’s this? War hero extraordinary John Kerry, Climate UnderFurher, told us he didn’t have a private jet, although his wife did, he needed it to save the peasants and the peasants had no right to know who his government paid assistants were, and I believed him. Clear enough?
Now you're satirizing!
Clear as a metaphoric liberty bell.
See new comment if you liked that
Soooo... what you're saying is Punishable by Fine = Legal for a Price?
https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/u3fwtd/a_crime_punishable_by_fine_means_its_legal_for_a/
yes,
ive only visited reddit once in my life and now youre making me look again!
Isn't that what the license is for?
And registration fees, several and varied taxes, tolls, etcetera, etcetera,...
💬 you can just pay a fee to continue to pollute
Yah, will do in the interim until 'the aliens come and save us' 😏
Yes because every dollar I take from you helps restore the carbon balance. I am smarter than you and will use your money to do good things like educate kids about man made climate change, ambiguity of gender, and systemic unconscious racism. And that will reverse climate change, restore ecological balance, force third world nations and China from burning coal, and restore harmony to the universe. It's 21st century math ;-)
The educate kids part is scary to me. I got upset about the gender stuff, specifically lack of transparency so I could counteract at home, and my parent friends laughed at me saying my argument doesn’t hold water unless I vet all materials. I replied that I actually do. Just this week noticed a very random passage in a spelling workbook about compulsory conscription. Are you freaking kidding me? My child is ten. Tell me again that the curriculum writers aren’t planting seeds...
have you not met our blatantly racist mayor of london yet?
I have not met Sadiq Khan personally. I did note the news this morning in London is that he's dropped, for now, the planned non-EV tax, likely due to the inability to enforce it, perhaps? Not because he noted the economic discrimination behind it I think.
I note the Brit media seems to love him. I suspect that when he blamed Trump for being targeted by "racism" that cemented him in the favor of the media ;-)
Carbon offsets, anyone?
And license fees, registration, various and sundry (even mumdane!) taxes, tolls, destination costs, smog certificates, etcetera,...
I have always been rebellious, but ungovernable has a more je ne sais quoi ring to it. From now on, I shall express my rebelliousness by being ungovernable. Note, too, that eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. And yes, it's WAY PAST TIME to teach the totalitarians what it's like to try to herd cats.
In point of fact, to be ungovernable is to be *self*-governed, the natural state of the free-thinking human being.
Be Ungovernable
https://i.imgflip.com/5eoekk.jpg
"Technology glides like an eagle, while bureaucracy stumbles along like the obese hog on its short trotters."
-- P.T. Kekkonen, late Finnish author (RIP 2002) 'Gunwriters on the Web'
Yes!
And, very well said.
To be "ungovernable" is to be in a more *permanent* state of rebellion, a more *perfect* (and *sneaky* in your case, Mick!) form of rebel-ness.
TPTB actively encouraged the BLM riots. They actively discourage, censor and punish parents asserting autonomy over their young children. Period.
Looove it! Does my heart good to see people fighting back.
May God bless them mightily!!!
Remember these most famous words:
“Let’s Roll!”
Or these famous words: “nothing is over until we say it’s over” (Bluto - Animal House)
Ha!
Animal House as the (populist) answer to our Animal Farm (one-party-state Democrats).
Our momentum grows daily...Nuremberg is coming, Team Psyop going down... like a ton of bricks...
hope you're right
Coincidentally, Transport for London is £13 billion in debt. However, I am quite sure that has absolutely nothing to do with the expansion of the ULEZ scheme in London. And instead of moaning about this worthy tax to improve the air quality, why don't these paupers go and buy an EV?
There is no font size large enough to express my gleeful YES! in light of the surveillance darkness enacted by the British Blade Runners.
I will nail this to my wall: „it’s almost as if it’s all but impossible to subdue a population that does not want to be subdued“
I agree with Nancy above 👆🏻!
Yes, dear Gato Malo 🐈⬛, I really needed that lol!
My highest goal in life is to be ungovernable.
#SquadGoals
And around £200 000 in ULEZ fines have not been paid.
How absolutely purrrfect!
Thanks Bad Cat. I laughed out loud. And I really needed it.
I’ll be using that camera map in my negative externalities lesson 😊
This is the most heartwarming story I’ve read in quite a while. Meanwhile the NYT lead article at the moment is “Covid is back!!! Aaahhh!!! Everybody freak out and get the latest and greatest booster and wear as many masks as you can get your hands on!!”
Funny, isn't it? You'd think that would be a job for Antifa, wouldn't you? I guess corporate-manufactured anarchy ain't such a quality product.
What if someone sold them fake/defective cameras and simply hired some goons to wreck the fakes before being discovered?
Would be a wonderful scam, that.
I wouldn't doubt that they were fully capable of buying plenty of defective cameras, and/or having incompetent installers/maintainers, without any cheery assistance of scammers.
Plausible, sir!