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KPOM's avatar

Since anti-Semitism is fashionable on the Left again, maybe it’s time to start calling him Gyorgy Schwartz again. Get the Left to cancel one of their own.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

That's very edgy, but It's not the Jew who's destroying the country. It's the Commie. Do you think George Soros identifies as a Jew? He gives money to organizations that are trying to tear down the state of Israel. He supports BDS.

The reason that the Commies are winning is that they are ruthless and smarter than most of the people on the Right, who are still focused on fighting the last war, and looking for the nickel in the corner of a round room.

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Lucy's avatar

Devon Erikson on twitter said , “ the Evil Party vs the Stupid Party”. The former plays the long game.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Don't worry. With Mitch McConnell and Mike Johnson, we will have this all sorted out in no time. Cue the New Jersey Generals clip.

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Rikard's avatar

If the point is the destruction (according to people like you or me) of the USA, why couldn't a jew with that in mind ally with a commie with the same goal?

Here in EUrope, it is very common for jewish organisations and individual jews to most vehemently argue for mass-migration from moslem nations and from Africa, despite the well-known hatred for jews among arabs and other moslems. As long as it is to european nations, not Israel. A discrepancy that is starting to cost them a lot of real influence as people become aware of it.

The swedish suit&tie-front for Antifa, EXPO, was started by swedish hard-line communists (old-school Stalinists, I kid you not) but before it got state funding, it was a jewish banker and a jewish-owned publishing house that funded EXPO and by extension AFA (swedish Antifa).

It sounds like a bad spy novel, doesn't it? Yet it is true.

Now, when jews in Sweden come under assault from moslem migrants and cannot even set foot in some areas in swedish cities, do you think the jewish organisations here oppose mass-migration? No! They clamour for it even more.

It's perverse is what it is - same as with our christian churches; they run an underground network helping illegal migrants remain in Sweden, especially criminal ones.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Rikard, how many Jews are in Sweden, 20,000? They aren't driving the bus. Sweden is not a friendly place for Jews. You focus on this to your detriment. The people and organizations who give the most money to these hard Left causes in the United States - It's not George Soros. It's the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Sam Walton Walmart heirs, Hansyorg Wyss, the Hewlett Foundation, The Packard Foundation etc. Arabella Advisors, the dark money fountain on the Left banks billions of dollars from these people. Yes there are Jews who give money to bad causes. There are some dumb people and some bad people who are Jews. Surprise - we're just like you.

As you allude to in Sweden, here as well there are religious organizations, many Christian organizations, banking hundreds of millions of dollars as NGOs, bringing in illegal aliens, working with the cartels and the corrupt US Government to break our laws and sovereignty.

You're a smart guy. Let me ask you something. Do you think that it's an accident that the Left puts Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, and Asians in the public facing places while the old white billionaires sit in the back pulling the strings? What is going on all over the world is a corporatist fascist takeover. They want you to focus on the Jew or the White or the Black, while they steal your life. Yes Jews tend to be intelligent and outperform in certain circumstances. But if Jews ran the world, do you think that the bullshit Israel puts up with would still be going on? Israel would have turned every hostile country in the ME into an ashtray decades ago. It doesn't work like you think it does.

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Rikard's avatar

In as friendly a tone as can be: calm down. I'm not the enemy here.

No. of jews in Sweden is ca 15 000 - 20 000; most of these are swedes descended from the original jews that came here ca 300ish years ago, so they are fully naturalised - they are in all aspects swedes, culturally speaking.

The group who speaks for them publicly is not: they are jews that happen to live in Sweden, but who put them being jews before anything else.

And I judge them the same way I judge arabs or somalis: they are aliens, foreigners, with no /right/ to be here. They /may/ be here on our sufferance.

I have zero problems with Israel not wanting open borders, nor have I any problems understanding why the palestinian arabs hate the israelis. I haven't a god in the fight, but on balance the iraelis aren't a threat to me - the arabs are. I have zero obligation care about jews more than others: I care about my people. They always come first, and I'm perfectly open with that.

What rankles is when jews claim we have a duty to allow mass-migration, while simultaneously claiming Israel has a right to deny migration, the arguement raised that it's the only nation the jews have.

Well, Sweden is the only nation the swedes have. Why shouldn't we be awarded the same rights to our ancestral territory as the jews?

Do you see the conflict in what is a jewish minority claiming to speak for them is saying?

(And Tanto, you should hear what I think about the palestinians in Sweden - it could get me jailed for hate-speech here.)

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Rikard, I am calm. Thank you for explaining yourself. We're going to have to perhaps agree to disagree. Put yourself in my position. I'm an American Jew. I love my country. My father came here from Colombia where his family moved before WW2, because he didn't want to be a second class citizen in a Catholic country. He came to the United States for the promise of equal opportunity. He was a US Army veteran. He voted Republican his whole life btw, which I didn't realize was unusual for Jews until I got a bit older. Now I see the country going down the tubes and circling the drain because of Commies. It disturbs me. Some of the Commies, not most, are nominally Jews. Do you think I like that? Do you think I don't want to slap them upside the head and ask them WTF is wrong with them? Morons. They have no understanding of history. They have no appreciation for the opportunity this country has given them. Just like the rest of the imbecile crowd.

Most of them are just gullible, dumb, and going along with their crowd. The people at the top( of all stripes) are evil. They don't believe the propaganda they rain down on the orcs.

I'm not an observant Jew. But I am a Jew and just as Sweden is the Swede's homeland, Israel is ours. I have Israeli family. Now Israel has a lot of diversity and has 2 million Arabs who apparently prefer to live with the Jews than fight against them in perpetuity. And I suspect that you don't mind some diversity in Sweden as long as it doesn't involve rape, bombings, violent crime, Commies,and hostile dilution of your culture. Every culture evolves. It's better if its voluntary and not via overt invasions by Genghis Khan or covert invasions by Barack Obama/Joe Biden.

So the AntiDefamation League I don't think speaks for me or other Jews. All of the sudden since October 7 they got religion, but before that for the last 15 years, they've just been shaking corporations down. I don't like that.

When I go to a synagogue from time to time and I happen to have the misfortune to hear a rabbi quoting Barack Obama, he doesn't speak for me or for his congregation. He's a clown in my estimation.

Same for whoever it is that you are talking about in Sweden. A lot of grifters and clowns claim to speak for a community. Al Sharpton for example or Louis Farrakhan in the black community. Radical racialists of all stripes claim they represent their community. They usually don't. Because most people aren't radicals.

It's a battle. Everybody advocates for their cause. You would think that history would have taught people to fear totalitarianism, to understand fascism and Communism, but we aren't there yet. You have 2 billion Muslims who have a culture that idolizes the seventh century and conquest of infidels. Big problem.

What I'm trying and failing to explain to you is this - follow the money and the power. At the top of the heap, that's who's driving the bus. It's the CCP. It's the WEF. It's the NWO. It's the transnational corporations like Pfizer and Google and Apple. The politicians and the administrative state are their handmaidens and partners. Jews as Bolsheviks in 1917 in Russia made sense.

Neo-Bolsheviks anywhere in 2024 makes no sense.

I hope Sweden pulls its head out its ass, just as I hope America pulls its head out of its ass. We are basically on the same side. But I don't take responsibility for the Commies who happen to be Jews at birth, like George Soros who funds terrorists. But if people use that affiliation as an excuse to harm Jews, then we have another battle to fight.

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Rikard's avatar

I fail to see where we disagree, and that's not me trying to be funny.

We just focus on different aspects of the same thing.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

As I said above, we are fundamentally on the same side.

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Coach's avatar

The real problem is the commies, whatever stripe that they may be. The really distorting part is that the Rockefellers, etc. are using commie leftism to maintain their hold on power.

The nuanced part is that there are two types of commies: the real powers that be, and the imbecilic useful idiots that are true believers who get used by the commies at the top until they become dispensable. In short, its the truly evil commies and their allies the truly stupid commies.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

And that's how it always is. Because Communism is always a scam. The USSR - the elites lived quite well. The CCP leadership are all billionaires. It's a con job for people with a chip on their shoulder. There are no real Communists at a certain level. There's just power and money.

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Zorost's avatar

Agreed. Communism isn't an ideology, it's a tactic/ marketing ploy.

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Morality's avatar

You, sir, are eloquent and clear. Thanks for this very thoughtful message.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Thank you.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Case in point r.e. the global Communist effort and its manifestations in the current campus brouhaha:

https://twitter.com/gc22gc/status/1785081670569529422

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shiyen's avatar

Wow... this is the most amazing pilpul I've ever seen.

Please -- write me an equivalent article about how great *some* National Socialists were. I'll be very receptive.

Not all jews... did you really need infinity paragraphs for that?

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RLM RLM's avatar

You're no enemy, you speak truth but the brain washing by the zionists in the west has never been stronger.

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Just sayn's avatar

Communism, jewish or other all leads to Fascism. There is No left or right paradigm. As you stated it is the unaccountable corporations and their Foundations that have taken the reins of governments EVERYWHERE. The money trail always appears to have Zionist ties. Collaborations via Bilderberg, Davos, Council on Foreign Relations? Who knows for certain? But they are all anti freedom.

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Zorost's avatar

Virtually every major communist including Marx was a jew. Cohencidence? I think not.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Completely inaccurate.

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Zorost's avatar

Incorrect.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Judeo-Bolshevism is a myth created by anti-semites to rationalize their favorite people, the Nazis. Most prominent Jews in the Communist movement in Russia and the Eastern Block were killed by Stalin or Lenin. Millions of Commies to choose from and you can only see the Jews - because you have a problem.

Don't worry. The Nazis, like all the other movements that sought the destruction of the Jews are gone. The Soviet Commies are gone. Soon Hamas will be gone. You would think people would figure out that trying to wipe out the Jews isn't a good idea in the long run. But they don't.

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Zorost's avatar

Yes, Stalin had to kill lots of jews in order to take over. If Bolshevism wasn't infested with them, funded largely by Jews in NYC, Stalin wouldn't have been able to purge so many.

People are figuring out it's a bad idea to fail to wipe out the jews. Jews will never figure out its a bad idea to keep fucking with people. It's in your peoples' blood and culture.

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Ed's avatar

Arguing over jews and commies are like arguing over which turd is a nicer shade of brown, or like arguing over evil vs stupid party politicians.

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RLM RLM's avatar

You've both got it wrong. It's the zionists who parade around as jews. Jews of the Bible are not Israeli devils. The zionists are the scourge of this earth and control every country in the world via their money system. Come on..

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

Tanto, I'll preface this by saying that I completely get it that you personally are not a communist.

However, I have absolutely no problem calling George Soros both a Jew and communist. He comes from a long line of Jewish "Hungarian" communists - surely you've heard of Bela Kun?

Bela Kun was the Jewish communist revolutionary who seized power in Hungary in 1919 with a bunch of other Jews, and ran a Red Terror campaign based on the Red Terror campaign being run by the other Jewish Bolsheviks in Russia.

No, not all Jews are communists, and not all communists are Jews. But there is way too much overlap between the two groups to ignore.

Karl Marx was Jewish, the Bolsheviks who staged the "Russian" Revolution were largely Jewish (not to mention the Jewish financiers who backed them, like Jacob Schiff), and there is a long list of Jews behind Mao (https://odysee.com/@I-Rabbi-T:3/Mao's-Jews--How-Jews-Helped-To-Install-Communism-In-China:0 ).

I don't pretend to have this all figured out - but I can't ignore obvious patterns.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Not sure what you’re trying to prove. That there have been prominent Jews in the Communist movement? True. Marx hated Judaism. There are a lot of Catholics in the Communist movement, too. So? Now Jews turned China Communist? lol.

You want one simple fact that disproves your point,if I understand you correctly? It’s this: Israel is not a Communist country. Israel- It’s an innovative capitalist free market country with democratic multiparty elections. Not one party Communist rule. If Jews wanted a communism, surely they could have it in Israel. They don’t have it.

Don’t tell me about 1919. The monarchs of Eastern Europe were cruel. It was inevitable that there would be a backlash. In 2024, in affluent societies without serious problems other than imaginary ones, Communism makes no sense. It’s a scam anyway. The Hungarian fascists, the Arrow Cross party. and their friends the Nazis massacred Hungarian Jew in WWII. So if you want to compare reigns of terror, let’s go.

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Oh, I know Israel isn't a communist country. Communism is what Jews want for other peoples, not for themselves.

Yes, the Czars of Russia could be harsh rulers. But there is no comparison between their rule and that of the Bolsheviks. To try to argue otherwise is simply ridiculous.

Of course you had to bring Nazis into the equation - that is the best PR scam the Jews have going. The NSDAP was trying to prevent Jewish communists from the East from ruining Germany, but they lost the war and so they lost the narrative too.

My favourite "Hungarian" Jewish Holocaust "survivor" is Irene Zisblatt - the one who kept swallowing diamonds and then picking them out of her poo while she was in Auschwitz. Gives a whole new meaning to the saying, "You can't make this shit up."

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

That didn't take long....

It's now crystal clear that you're a lunatic.

At this moment the Intergalactic High JOOOOO Command are targeting our Magic JOOOOO Lizard Space Lasers to brainwash you.

It's only a question of when, not if, the aluminum foil wrapped tightly on your head gives out.

Hamas has some openings for "freedom fighters". I would encourage you to apply. You have what it takes.

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

Thank you for your forthrightness, Tanto. It's very revealing.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

Space Lasers bro. Turned up to 11

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Morality's avatar

They only hate the wrong kind of jews, those who disagree with them

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M. Dowrick's avatar

😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍👍

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Hollywog's avatar

Good point.

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RLM RLM's avatar

The left. Meh. That's such brainwashed partisan ignorant comment. I guess you're a zionist or a fundamental Christian. Ones the snake ones the sheep.

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MarcusBierce's avatar

censuring Israeli behavior is not *anti-semitism*

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