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Johnny Dollar's avatar

I don't get scientists who are supposed to be EVIDENCE BASED stick their toes into the abstract social justice realm. It's waaaay past their wheel house.

I stopped listening to TWIV because I sensed they were sympathetic to that nonsense. No time for science that doesn't stick to science and facts.

I will say this. Dr. Racaniello said in May of 2020 pouring money into vaccines was going to be a waste and that investing in anti-virals would have rendered a better return and results.

He saw the likelihood of success was low.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

The very idea that "the science is settled" is anti-scientific. And a lot of these mantras and social justice aspects sound more like a religion, or a cult, than science.

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BeadGurl's avatar

I vote for cult. When you have "scientists" who alter/lie about data (University of East Anglia/IPCC for "global warming"), ignore data (CDC and VAERS reporting) or ghost/gaslight people who ask for accountability and honest, truthful answers - I'd say cult is a good label for these types of people.

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I am not your Other's avatar

I stopped listening to TWIV when they said, "Tony is a great guy."

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

Swell, stand-up guy experimenting on babies and beagles. Clueless people.

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

then you probably didn't listen in when the great man did a guest slot on their podcast

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I am not your Other's avatar

omg would rather die than listen to that pos ever again

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

i'm not opposed to people going "outside of their wheel house." after all that claim could be leveled at us. surely you've heard this: just shut up and trust the experts. you can't do your own research.

i still listen to TWIV although to a much lesser degree. i find them too smug for words. you'll be happy to know that Racaniello has changed his mind; he now proclaims the vaccines "miracles" of modern science and why we should flood them with unrestricted tax dollars because GOF research will enable the development of more vaccines for viruses we haven't even created (oops, i mean discovered) yet to save the world

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