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Men playing dress up with my immutable biology is misogynistic and cruel. Giving delusional men access to my daughters private spaces and athletic competitions is overtly anti-girl.

Lots of fat ugly women, and all “liberal” men hate strong athletic women and girls. The NCAA and Ivy schools despise strong women even more than white men with traditional values.

F*** them all. This is the real war......... against the insane semantics gymnastics of loud people who add absolutely nothing positive to society.

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It's one thing when people want to live in their own delusional fantasies. It's another thing all together when everyone else is forced to play along.

Gato focused on sports but this goes way beyond that, either one accepts reality or denies it. As someone who's learned some very hard lessons in life, denying reality leads to brokenness and misery. People who think they are accepting out of "compassion" are just as delusional and enabling that misery. People who cheer this on have something seriously wrong with them.

Yes of course it's unfair to girls, but that's the least of our concerns.

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Agree. And I don’t know anyone who cares what odd adults do that doesn’t impose a requirement in others.

Having a 10 year old daughter, and 7 year old son, the sheer force and cruelty the left is trying to destroy them, to sever their brains from being rooted in objective truth, and my 10 year old’s ability to participate in life without high risk of being raped by delusional men playing dress up, it is the chief concern. It’s about the lack of reality, but also the outright attacks trying to sexualize little kids and destroy girls at the most basic, immutable, biological level. It’s literally evil.

Imagine swimming the man Lia. First he humiliates you in the pool, then he walks around the locker room with his d**k hanging out, then he hits on women in front of you....... this is meant to humiliate and it’s really evil. “Lia” hates women. Lia wants to dominate women in a very sick way.

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If you have not done so already, get your kids out of public schools. Seriously, this cannot wait. And if you choose a Christian school, make sure it's Bible-centered and not one of the woke denominations. These lunatics are running rampant in the schools, and even if the administration doesn't agree with it they are too cowardly to stop it. They will sacrifice your kids to protect their pensions.

I got my teenage boys out about two years ago and hopefully it was soon enough.

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Excellent. BTW grandparents, you listening? Let your kids pick which private school to sent your grandkids. Pay the tuition, if you can. The greatest gift for them all.

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Yes! Don't make them come begging but offer to help out. You can't take it with you.

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And grandparents - please also offer to help if they choose to homeschool. “Help” may look a little different than a tuition check, but offer what help you can - funds for materials, curriculum, field trips, a regular time to take the kids so the homeschooling parent has an afternoon a week to him/herself (which might just be used to clean the house when no one is around to mess it up immediately), pay for a weekly housecleaner or a way to have a readymade meal once a week, if you live nearby and have a bit of stamina offer to provide “grandparent school” a couple of afternoons a week for younger kids, etc. Helping out means you may be saving your grandkids from being indoctrinated and brainwashed by the worst ideologies you can imagine, and helping provide the best opportunity they could get to develop a solid foundation of the right skills, excellent character, and critical thinking skills.

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Even private schools have CRT, BLM, and LGBTQ agendas. Homeschooling is safer

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Not all private schools. The one my kids attend released an in depth and well founded letter, that they keep posted on their website, rejecting CRT a year or two ago. While it’s much deeper, the conclusion was basically that race based ideology goes against Christian beliefs that all of humanity is one body and with the Marxist undertone CRT style race theories go against this country’s long history as a free democracy and the school’s values of helping each child reach their unique and high potential centered around individual responsibility. They reject gender ideology passionately. It’s one of the top k-12 private schools in NC with over 1,200 students.

I’m a supporter of homeschooling and it is the best/ only option in many places and for many families. I do also think it’s important to recognize not all private, or in our area even some charter schools, have caved to woke insanity. Some still focus on high academic, extra curricular, athletic, and character standards. If homeschool doesn’t work there are still great options that can be supported and encouraged for those who invest the time to find them, and have the courage to actually ask the questions up front.

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I took my son out at the start of 7th grade (around 2011); we made it, just in time.

Good for you (“us”, really) parents who are willing to take the leap of faith required and educating your kids YOUR way. I didn’t know what I was doing, but I figured that, even if he were to learn NOTHING at home (as if), my son’d still be far better off than learning what they’re teaching in school, and I was right.

Keeping kids out of school also protects them from unwanted medical intervention: there isn’t a “religious/personal belief exemption” option for any of the current “mandated vaccines” in California anymore.

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Mine are in a top private Christian school. We don’t face the threat of vaccine mandates or CRT or gender ideology. The school has always vocally objected to those, and backed it with solid reasons which they have stood by unwavering. It’s list of accomplished alumni is on par with the best boarding schools (and lucky for us it’s about 25% of the cost).

That said, in the unlikely event it blows up our next move is homeschool.

CA would have shut it down long ago - CA wouldn’t tolerate a school of 1,200+ conservative students that consistently pumps out very successful conservative young adults that go on to do great things in life while still being good humans. CA seems determined to destroy their best and brightest. Great for you not letting them!!!! 💓💓💓

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I think it was. The teen years are so important for understand self and society and mature confidence. Mine haven’t ever stepped foot in a public school and I work to elect school choice candidates at every level regardless of political affiliation. My daughter’s protection, and the expectations/ educational opportunities for my son, should not be contingent upon our finances or demographics, nor should any other child’s.

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110 % correct on all points .

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Some private schools lead the pack in this delusion! Curious to know if anyone is keeping a list of schools that dont incorporate CRT or this gender fluidity nonsense.

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But yes, there are orgs that track. Private schools they mostly just have the big boarding and super expensive ones but it’s being worked on

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There are several organizations. Several private schools are - known as Ivy League - they will make your smart teenager stupid and entitled but they gatekeep the c-suite of woke corporations

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Mar 20, 2022·edited Mar 21, 2022

Transvestites / Autogynephiles / autoandrophiles have an overwhelming sexual paraphilia. Forcing others to include them is forcing others to partake in their sexual stimulation.

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Very troubling that his fellow swimmers do not walk out in protest - for their own safety if nothing else! It is an example of how cowed people are to these tyrants. The schools, just like in women in CA prisons who get raped by trans men in women's prison, should sue. It is unsafe.

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Mar 21, 2022·edited Mar 21, 2022

Cowardice isn’t anything new. Most people live their lives trying to fly under the radar.

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Boy isn't that the truth. Sheesh.

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When will the first trans pro golfer join the LPGA ?

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Unfortunately , the “normalization “ of un -truths

Coupled with the fantasy of living in ones own reality, has now been forced onto all of us

RESIST evil !

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I wonder if anyone has considered fighting fire with fire. These people that trouble us have inverted our old values and created their own fantasy world.

Since they are forcing us to live in their fantasy, turnabout is fair play. Let's create our own fantasy world! Re-invert the values, and give ourselves our own inverted-inverted-fantasy world to live in? In theory, that would return us to reality, which for the most part is what we wanted.

I mean this in jest, but perhaps it is practicable in some cases! 🙂

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Parallel states and institutions..

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It’s not just that, for Autogynephiles or autoandrophiles you are being forced to participate in their sexual fantasies by going along and pretending their are something they aren’t and giving them the privileges of access - they remain heterosexual/ pseu-bisexual and giving them access to locker rooms and bathrooms is outrageous and dangerous.

When ideology trumps biology you are dealing with idiots, assholes and the toxic narcissists pulling their strings.

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I agree that the sports thing is visible but only the tip of the iceberg. First thing to do is to STOP buying into this gender doctrine. There's men and women: that's it. Without the cover of this vague, ever shifting notion of gender, the whole thing collapses.

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JeffC, if I could like your comment 1,000x, I would. Speaking truth into people’s lives is love, speaking delusion is setting them up for failure.

Someone who sets you up for failure doesn’t give two 💩 about you.

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I have a trans F2M niece. Our family calls her by her preferred male name and (at least my husband and I) treat it as sort of a "Lars and the Real Girl" sort of thing. For her she had trouble with reality and did not fit in. She was a broken, very privileged girl who had no coping skills. Therapy was not sorting it. She feels happier and more normal as a male. Do I think it is right? No. Do I want chance she commits suicide because she is unhappy as a girl and is forced to live as one? NO. She doesn't demand anything. We treat her as she wishes out of love. Just another side to think about.

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I don’t think anyone wants other humans to be in pain. I also wonder how much of this short term fix comes at an unimaginable or unconsidered long term cost? The theory that kids are more likely to commit suicide if not allowed to transition has been debunked, particularly girls and particularly those with “sudden onset” gender dysphoria that shows up around puberty.

It has been shown that those who transition remain at elevated suicide risk for life while those who naturally outgrow true gender dysphoria, which has early childhood onset as it was with me, go on to be normal with typical adult mental health. I’m rather happy as an adult, but I can’t remember being little not thinking at the time I should have been a boy. As a little kid I always thought that. By 16 I loved my strong comically female yet ripped body, and loved teasing the boys with it. Haha.

In the 1980’s/ 1990’s we were still just fun loving Tom boys and should still be.... Nobody lied and told girls like me that self mutilation would make us happy. I’m eternally grateful for that.

Anyway, how often do you all consider the speed at which this arose, largely through social contagion, and is disappearing as most of the western world that embraced this child gender ideology craze is moving away from it, recognizing the harm and no long term established benefit? Is it really all that different than temporary euphoria from cutting or throwing up?

I don’t know her situation, and while I am very sad for her, the mental illness of some, however heartbreaking, is never a justification to harm women and girls by robbing them of bodily safety and fair competition, nor is it justification to demand severing public policy and access to private spaces from immutable biological truth and reality. It doesn’t mean people can’t be weird or different, but it does mean men with a penis have no business in female only private spaces and sports competitions, even if that reality hurts their feelings.

Medical transitions of the young are a big pharma medical experiment and the damage is just beginning to show. So while I consider your niece, I also consider the long term harm being done to thousands of girls who need help, not hormones. I consider how many girls will walk away from swimming because no one spends years in the pool knowing the top of the podium is unachievable. How many stay home and sit out for their literal bodily safety.

Here is an overview, with studies linked at the bottom, of just how quickly other western countries are running from this harm - not just to girls and women but to those transitioning young rather than getting the mental health care they actually need.

https://segm.org/Sweden_ends_use_of_Dutch_protocol

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Transition supporters coach suicide threats as a tactic. Few are the teens who didnt struggle with identity, changing names or spelling of names or adopting extremes in lifestyle/dress/ music to find “their” niche, almost always temporary. We fail teens in helping them towards making a permanent change to a temporary snd common dysphoria.

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I get what you are saying. You know my niece and her life history and medical and psychological conditions?

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I get what YOU are saying and I hope they never look back with resentment to people who helped them make a permanent change to accomodate a temporary dysphoria.

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Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I agree with you mostly. I do know that if nothing is working for a person and they want to die because of it, if they can manage to live a life that feels right to them and not self mutilate, IMO they should do it. Not all are going along with the clique. She is utterly aware of the damage the hormones may do. Just as alcoholics, over eaters, over runners, botox injectors,... all know. Or should know. She was not going to be just sitting it out. She was not a girl who was good at sports kind of tomboy. She literally for her whole life felt wrong. You live one life. If you harm nobody but yourself, then it should be your life to live.

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Yes, people can self harm, and in the end we can’t stop it. We also don’t have to play along or harm our own children in the process. People and adults do odd harmful things all the time, but no law requires us to inject heroine because a heroine addict wants us to. No law should require little girls to see the erect penis of a grown man in a CA spa because he wants to show them - and yet not only did that exact thing happen, but CA law required the spa to exclude the girls or force them to be naked around a convicted sex offender who was erect because he claims he’s a woman.

The issue is not about the trans people or mentally ill people identifying as trans for hormones, though lots are being harmed by those conversations not happening. The outrage is because innocent people, particularly women and girls, are being put in harms way, being assaulted, and being robbed of hard earned opportunity because of other people’s mental delusions. That is wrong. It’s misogynistic and it’s cruel.

It’s also cruel to ignore those very huge and real issues by saying “but this trans person I know isn’t like that.” Well, that might be true, but where are the protections for real women and girls? Are they just trash? Are they disposable to our society (we are certainly making policies that say as much)?

Why do so many oppose policies that protect actual girls and women? Why do Democrats hate girls and women? Why do they craft policies that literally allow any man, at any time, and any age, and for absolutely any reason, even convicted rapist, to have unfettered access to women’s private spaces? If it’s not meant to hurt women and girls, then why are policies written to ensure women and girls have no rights, no say, and no recourse?

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I agree completely with you about the sports, locker room, changing room etc. completely. It is utterly unsafe and wrong.

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Did you always know that she was masculine and dominate?

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She was not dominant. She always preferred dressing, playing and being with the boys and being treated as one. I think she has always been really uncomfortable in her own skin. I haven't asked her point blank the intricate details especially as she decided later to live as a male. She takes testosterone, but has not gotten surgery thank God. We all hope (and she knows we hope) that she will sort out what is going on and go back to female. She sees a psychiatrist. I think sometimes girls make it hard on other girls who are not quite fitting into the mold. Boys don't either. Some become sort of a squishy center hoping to find a happy place. IMO of course. I actually don't really believe she thinks she is a man trapped in a female body. Like Chastity Bono. Just extreme discomfort with herself. Not sure that makes sense. You have to know her. It is heartbreaking to watch. Not sure if it is heartbreaking for her. Living as she was would have meant suicide I think tho.

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This is a heart breaking situation all around. It's clear that you love and care for your niece very much. It's not uncommon for teenage girls to feel weird and/or repulsed by the whole business of becoming a woman. Unfortunately, we now have a totally 'affirming' model which confirms the trans feelings rather than probe into what could be causing the mental pain and discomfort. Testosterone is dangerous and halts normal development. Sorry, but I don't believe girls under 18 should be allowed to access it. Your niece IS female but she will never be a woman if she continues on this path. Interesting that you say it is not heart breaking for her. I hope everything works out for her.

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She is 30. She started testosterone when she was about 23. She knows the potential problems with long term testosterone. I have my own thoughts as to why she went this way, but I think I will keep that aside. Besides it is just my reading between the lines. You never fully know what lies in the heart or mind of any person. I know she has paid an incredibly high price to live as she does, so she must really really want it. I hate the pretenders in sports, flagging their crotch around the locker room. To be clear. Hate is not powerful enough of a word.

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Mar 20, 2022·edited Mar 20, 2022

I dont think the issue is THAT polarized. There are plenty of Fat ugly women and Liberal males who detest men on womens podiums. This is purely the work of trans lobbyists working spineless sports organizations and government who are afraid to take a stand for being called “anti- trans”. Trans lobbyists have weaponized this.

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Look at who is screaming at us to let men play women whenever they want, consequences be dammed? I don’t see female athletes doing it. I don’t see conservative men doing it. While certainly driven by the trans activist, and big pharma, and Bill Gates, I’m responding in the same way the “trans” supporters do.

If they can call me a “bigot” and demand my removal from society, the economy, and social, life for opposing having my immutable biology stolen by women-hating delusional men and a scary number of pedophiles, with zero guardrails you protect women as the NCAA demands, I’m going right back at them by calling them out as the actually insane ugly loser women and sissy little men they are.

Placing the delusions and feelings and impulses of men over bodily safety and opportunity for all women is cruel. The lunatics are winning because everyone who disagrees with them is playing their feelings game and not wanting be insulting. You know what, comparing my body that gave birth to two humans as sameness to a man with a d**k is insulting. I do not care any more about “Lia’s” feelings than he does about how harassing it is to the girls he’s humiliating in the pool than prancing around naked in the locker room in front of (some of whom he has dated in the past).

It’s outright degrading to women for men to be named “Miss Arizona” or a Time magazine “woman of the year” or an NCAA “women’s swimming champion.” Degrading is the game these people play, so I’ll play it. It IS about the language and the insults.

I have watched women be insulted and belittled by a bunch of lunatics that reduce our immutable biology to a dress up costume for men and our role as mothers to mechanical nothingness of “birthing people.”

My descriptions are intentional. They are intentionally degrading. Just as the activist are...... I’m an activist for objective truth and real opportunity for girls.

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Wow. Love your response!

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You are awesome. Right there with you. Tired of playing nice especially when my grandchildren are facing this crap. And I have a grandchild who thinks they are trans. Well, I love them no matter what but not going to be pretending it’s all hunky dory and encouraging it either.

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I hope your grandchild has someone remind them there is no right or wrong way to be who they are...... 🙏💓

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I think you are right in that most people know this is crazy. The problem is that people are too fearful to say it, so it looks like it has more support than it actually does. The loudest voices are the extremists and they get amplified in the media.

They only way to stop this is to refuse to participate. Pull your kids out of public schools, do not let your kids participate on girls teams with boys on them, and for goodness sakes don't let them have social media accounts. It boggles my mind how many parents give their kids cell phones and computers with unsupervised internet access. It's like telling the world to raise your kids then parents are shocked when their kids end up brainwashed.

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I don't know if "trans hobbiest" is an already coined thing, but it should be. It perfectly describes what they are and, most importantly, gave me a good snicker.

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We live in surreal times where we’re all being forced to participate in a child’s “tea party.”

The cups were empty, the tea cakes invisible but we had better compliment the hastes on both or she ran to mom who would admonish us to play along for the sake of peace and harmony!

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Simply more proof of the mental illness of collectivist Marxism that the bleeding heart leftist has co-opted.

Never stop standing up for sanity, for morality, for honesty, for reality.

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It might just be me making an assumption but all the "allies" arguing in defense of Lia Thomas & the like don't look particularly athletic and it doesn't look like they were ever athletic. Even with some extra weight I have now, I'm often asked if I'm a former athlete due to the way I carry myself (ballet mostly, but did some swimming and volleyball).

But more than looks, the shitty arguments reveals these "allies" non-athletic status. The whole Michael Phelps thing. If he didn't have good pacing and breath control, his wingspan wouldn't do him a damn bit of good. But I'm also certain Michael is a shapeshifting dolphin anyway, so...😂

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The truth is most of these people never left HS behind. It's all hunting for the clique that gets you the most popularity. My nominee for most condescending word of the decade is "ally." That's the adult version of those little orange UNICEF donation boxes you carried from house to house to show what a nice little moral kid you were. You didn't need charity yourself but you loved all those faraway people who did, and the neighborhood was gonna know it and applaud.

I think, as I type, that one of the victims of that MA satanic daycare panic may still be in prison. Or died there. A family destroyed for the cause du jour. Then every middle-class family seemed to have a girl dying of anorexia, with their sad baffled parents writing elegantly-recounted memoirs of their family's "journey."

The road to hell with this latest iteration of human hysteria has been paved with "being kind." Fuck that kindness. Its earlier face was not asking your 14-yr.-old why she was wearing sweatshirts ten sizes too big, because adolescents need their privacy, and every one of 'em was unusually mature, sensitive, smart, funny, and sensitive.

Anyone brewing up a common-sense virus in their basement, please let it loose on the subway and let it spread.

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Common sense virus! People standing up for what is so obviously wrong.

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Yes, this is one point. But I also think the gender identity hysteria is also another prong of the "Confusion Attack".

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Absolutely. It’s trying to severe people from reality in hopes they won’t notice what is actually happening to them........... it’s working on a shocking number of people.

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My youngest son's (20) closest friend is a trans boy. He's been coming over for sleepovers since he was around 12. I feel like I've had a front row seat. I call him by the name he asks to be called. I have had no problem with the preferred pronouns except for when I am asked to provide menstruation products. My brain cannot discuss or provide tampons for use by a boy. I don't mean to offend and I'm not making a joke. I can refer to him as him or he in every context except when she is menstruating, discussing cramps or asking me for tampons...which I purchase and keep in the house primarily for her. This is not conscious, my brain simply can't seem to comprehend male pronouns in conjunction with menstruation.

Recently, I've noticed something of concern. He had his breasts removed nearly 2 years ago. I'd say for the last 6+ months he's taken to wearing dresses, a lot of feminine jewelry and has been experimenting with makeup. Not in an exuberant drag style, really in a normal girl learning what suits her style. *Sigh* I haven't said anything to my son or his friend. Doesn't involve me, I'm an outside observer. I am not a professional and not trained to diagnose or recognize mental illness. As a Motherlord, I usually can recognize Confusion Attack. Some of our youth are more susceptible than others.

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This is often what happens. Being a middle and early high school girl is hard. Young women/ teens turning to self-mutilation has been around forever. In the 1990’s cutting, bolemia, and anorexia were the popular methods. Today it’s over eating and hormones/ genital mutilation. The difference today is instead of adults seeing an obvious cry for help, and suggesting a wait and see approach on any permanent changes, some adults rush to outwardly support this “translation,” while others say “I’m just an outside observer.” The CHILD is left with no adult voice or reminders there is factually no right or wrong way to be a girl, and no possible way to change genders regardless of feelings.

Then young adulthood hits. 20-something boys don’t wear dresses unless it’s for a joke. 20-something girls do. I didn’t embrace dresses until around 28 and pregnancy (now I love them).

I was convinced as a little girl God should have “made me a boy.” Fortunately growing up in the 1980’s / 1990’s I was told to be myself and come back to talk if I still felt that way at 25. Athletics saved me as a kid. Swimming specifically. I got to be proud of my strength and what my body could accomplish. I could win.

By 25 I had a strong banging body with natural 32DDs and a finance I’m still in love with. By 30 we were married with our first child. By 35, still happily married with 2 kids, I realized how grateful I am that all those actual adults in my life as a kid saw me as a unique individual, not a social experiment. Had the latter happened, I have no doubt I would have killed myself by then.

At 39 today I am heartbroken at all the girls like me destroying their bodies because no adult spoke up to tell them the truth about immutable biology or offer them the support or reminder they were good enough just they way they are (were).

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I've found it rather interesting to observe Brad Pitt and Angelina's daughter Shiloh. At a fairly young age, 5 or 6 perhaps, she decided she wanted to be a boy. She had two older brothers and obviously wanted to be like them. She cut her hair like a boy, wore boy's clothes, said she wanted to be called "John", and this went on for quite awhile until recently. She is now 15, and I saw a photo of her with her mother and a sister at a movie event, and she was dressed like a girl, her hair was longer, she had jewelry and some makeup on, and she was clearly feeling more like a girl at this point. Her parents always said they were letting her find herself without pressuring her to do what they might have preferred, and that was clearly a good course to follow and their daughter has finally seemed to find comfort in her own skin as a girl.

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Similar for me. My name is gender neutral and I was a Tom boy with a bowl cut and often got mistaken for an actual boy when I was little. No one in my life cared or made all that big a deal. By puberty I was boy crazy. I also developed later. It was terrifying at first but we’ll before high school was over I had grown comfortable in my own skin with a great deal of pride in my strong and cut but still comically female one body for such a Tom boy.

My fear is the number of girls like me who aren’t allowed the space to be who we are because some social justice activist is determined to shove us into a box and bully us into and incredibly cruel social experiment.

We aren’t shaped like boxes and most humans don’t fit in boxes very well. It’s cruel to use stereotypes to deny objective truth and encourage kids to reject and harm and sterilize the only body they will ever get.

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Interesting, wants to be a boy, but then adopts feminine accoutrements. This is not unique. I know a trans person who did the surgeries to become a woman, but got a girlfriend - what IS this?

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I think in the circumstance of youth, it is true confusion attack. Perhaps what we used to call a Tom Boy, perhaps had a bad experience as a girl-child (abuse, molestation, abandonment) that makes them view women as more vulnerable, perhaps susceptible to outside social influence like a teacher or other role model expressing trans issues. As they mature or possibly through appropriate therapy they learn themselves and find they actually may be the gender of their birth. I find it concerning for my son's friend, that they may genuinely have needed some kind of psychological support and instead was perhaps pushed in this trans direction.

In the 2nd instance, that of your friend, I would explain that how one views themselves inside is a separate thing than one's sexual preference. So, I view myself 100% as a very feminine female. I am only attracted to men sexually. I cannot compute being attracted to cats. I cannot compute being attracted to women. Some people have a more flexible sexual desire, they are attracted to both men and women. In the case of your friend, their sexual desire has always been flexible or they are only sexually attracted to women regardless of how they themselves view themselves internally, regardless of external genitalia.

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Most trans people are straight based on biology. Except butch girls who are more often lesbians “transitioning” more now, though still don’t make up the majority of F-t-M transitions.

It’s not unusual that “Jazz” is on the hunt for a cute “trans boy.” Jazz is a boy attracted to girls that share his mental delusions......... this is common

“Lia” and “Iszac” are “really close friends” as well. Lia is a man swimming in the women’s events for UPenn. Iszac is a female swimmer for Harvard who swims against women, but chopped her boobs off for her “identity” and enjoys pulling her suite down to her waist walking around the pool deck..... chatting with Lia at Ivy swim meets

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Useful analysis

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Motherlord, I find you have considerable empathy. I also am in no position to judge. Your son also might be quite brave. As your son's friend matures even more I have great concern for the child's welfare (struggled with the pronoun). I fear for all these children and our society that has not treated them well.

As a child I often played with a tomboy who dressed like a boy, played like a boy, refused to wear a dress, got picked on at school. In high school she says she changed, and decided to date boys. We were more distant afterwards but she became a mother. I can picture her as strong woman. Wonder if that would happen today as adults might decide what she was destined to be?

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Probably. And it has had at least a generation to severely damage the psychology of too many adults and their children. Too many are confused and afraid to speak the truth. As a society we have allowed and been bullied into normalizing, not differences of perception, but true mental illnesses.

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I have one trans friend. I support people living their lives and having governance of their bodies. I do not care who loves whom & what they do together as consenting adults (no children or animals, obvs). None of these decisions are my business and they do not affect my love for them as friends & family.

But this women's swimming situation is straight up doping. It's really as simple as that to me. If any of the assigned female at birth competitors took massive steroids to increase muscle mass, or cardiac meds to increase cardiovascular capacity, or inhalers to open up their airways, whatever..., they'd be kicked out of the sport.

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Why do you see sexual orientation and men playing dress up as the same thing?

Who people sleep with doesn’t impact others. Men playing dress up with women’s immutable biology and forcing their way into every girls overnight cabin, every women’s college dorm, every pool changing facility, every school field trip, every Women’s swimming event absolutely impacts every biological girl and woman in those spaces. It’s not harmless. It’s cruel.

People can be attracted to the same sex. They cannot ever become a different one. I don’t care at all about the former but I am done giving up language and reality to the latter.

Men are not women and women are not men and no amount of surgery or big pharma subscription will change that.

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I see trans people differently, I guess. But I didn't comment to judge others' choices & beliefs. I just think this particular instance breaks established sports rules.

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Choices and beliefs are irrelevant. Humans are sexually dimorphic. That's biology. All biological norms can have deviations and disorders but they don't invalidate what the norms are. And "norm" is not a pejorative. Without biological norms none of us would be here.

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What about long established privacy rules and sex segregated private spaces? Those are ok to throw out but not sports rules that are far newer than the recognition that allowing men into women’s private spaces is, well, outright dangerous?

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I have not needed to comment here because I could just click ♡ on your posts. Agree completely.

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Thank you for the kind compliment

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The instant you say "assigned female at birth" you've started severing yourself from reality. The percentage of humans born with such ambiguous genitalia, or with hidden-until-puberty disorders of sexual development that that can be considered a true statement, is miniscule.

No person who self-identifies as "trans" is without serious emotional instability. I understand the desperate desire to escape one's present into a brave new world of rebirth into a new identity. Anyone who's ever converted to another faith, or adopted a new culture and tried to fit within its parameters, understands. One immerses in the mikveh or baptism pool, one publicly recites professions of faith, and expects to emerge from a chrysalis as a wondroud new creature leaving all the agony of the past behind.

That's why the TRA insist they are real boys and girls. It's not enough to choose it for yourself. The world must prove they believe. Sorry. It's religion no matter what you call it.

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Freedom of religion, to practice as one believes.

I use my friend's terminology b/c it does not hurt me to do so. I see it as manners.

I truly don't care how people identify or what they believe in, if it does not harm others.

The sports situation does.

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It is harming others. It is asking people to deny reality. Delusion is harmful in all ways. I can pretend I am a horse but they aren't gonna let me run in the Kentucky Derby. Manners be damned. You are promoting lies.

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Exactly. Denying reality is harmful to others and to society at large. At the risk of being rude, your sentence, "I use my friend's terminology b/c it does not hurt me to do so" is selfish. You may not think it hurts you (it does actually) but it does hurt them. However, for you it avoids dealing with an unhealthy situation and allows you to feel virtuous at the same time.

Consider, "I gave the alcoholic a drink because it does not hurt me to do so. It would be bad manners to not give the alcoholic a drink." How is that compassionate? Or any different?

There is nothing new under the sun. Spouses of alcoholics have been sucked into this trap since the dawn of time. Loving others does not mean looking the other way when they are harming themselves. It's the opposite actually.

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You have never tried to help an addict to reform. No you don't give an alcoholic a drink. Not a good analogy.

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Guys... Religion, and the attempt to legislate one's beliefs so that everyone has to follow them.

I don't practice one of the mainstream faiths. Just about everyone I know does, though.

I think it's entirely possible they are deluded. It's entirely possible I'M deluded. 😂 We all believe in things that others think aren't real. If I think they are attempting to damage others, that's when I step in.

But their beliefs are their own. Their bodies are their own. Their finances are their own. (Tithing.) It is not my business, so long as they're happy & leaving others be. I respect their faith.

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As soon as they enter a private space for women they are harming others. No one forces you to go to church but middle school girls are being forced to sleep in the same bed as boys, and college girls room with boys, against their will. That’s not practicing your religion in peace, it’s thrusting it into people who have no interest in playing along, and it’s incredibly dangerous to the bodily safety of girls and women.

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They are exponentially increasing the costs of health insurance because "gender affirmation" includes puberty blockers (not "entirely reversible" and with medical harms beyond that); unnessesary cross-sex hormones. amputation of healthy body parts and cosmetic construction of faux ones; lifetime prescriptions for those cross-sex hormones; repeated corrective surgeries for failed faux body parts; side effects of those hormones including early osteoporosis; mental health care for people discovering after all the affirmation that their underlying mental health issues remain unabated; etc. etc. etc. Every one of us pays for this.

Just as we pay for preemie care for IVF treatments resulting in multiple fragile infants, etc. etc. etc. We must choose; there's no inexhaustible fount of funds when we extend life at each end and create more frail human beings needing more than expected medical expenditures.

The babies perhaps deserve more of our collective resources than someone wanting their dick chopped off. People with cancer perhaps deserve more of those resources than the gender-obsessed. Dollars for reconstructive surgeries are perhaps best spent on burn victims and people who get their faces ripped off by the neighbors' insane dogs. We cannot pay it all without crushing everyone under a ridiculous tax and surcharge burden.

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"You are promoting lies." - i don't see any promoting anything, I see tolerating differences. I certain tolerate a lot of stuff that is wrong headed but if it's not illegal as defined in that society. You attack is in invest of the woke attack.

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The "sports situation" birthed itself from the forehead of "manners."

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It's perhaps because I allow a lot of people to live their lives without interjecting my opinion unnecessarily.

My beliefs about the subject are just that: mine.

They' only become relevant if I see a danger or loss of civil liberties. Otherwise, it's not my life to live.

I don't see a threat with changing rooms, summer camps, etc. Trans folk are less likely to be predators than cis hetero men. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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False, Lara. Males who identify as 'trans' commit violent crimes at the same rate other males do. And FTR, most males who identify as 'trans' are heterosexual.

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You are delusional. There are literally hundreds of well known examples of young girls and women being attacked or harassed in changing rooms, spas, camps, prisons, and forms by people claiming to be trans. Most are actively suppressed by the media. It’s not rare.

It is cruel and incredibly stupid and outright misogynistic to say “I don’t see an issue with 6 year old girls seeing dicks when they go change into their swim suit at the pool.” Or “I don’t see an issue forcing an 18 year old girl to room with a man who thinks he’s a woman.” What fantasy world do you live in?? ???

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You said the key words: "by people claiming to be trans."

Yup. Predators gonna prey on people. If they aren't pretending to be trans folk, they'll do it some other way.

Also, what world do you live in that kids are forced to room together and share beds? Sharing beds isn't allowed by most institutions for underage people. Mentors aren't allowed to be alone with an opposite sex student & discouraged from being alone with same sex ones. Literally everyone is uber-paranoid about this in this litigious society, esp. as you only need to bring it up in the court of public opinion.

Forcing roommates doesn't happen in college. There is recourse to move. I discovered I had a lesbian roommate one year. I wasn't interested. I moved. No biggie.

I believe you're indulging in hysteria similar to Covidians: Fear of stuff that isn't happening with any regularity, if at all.

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While I can accept tolerance it doesn't extend to private spaces generally. A trans women friend dresses as a women, modestly, doesn't want attention and uses the ladies in public spaces. She does her thing there. I doubt any might think her a predator. My late wife often used the men's in crowded places, breezing right in and finding a stall. Nobody really cared. The fear of some about posers going in to those spaces is different because it's public. But I do not think this trans person should share female spaces involving privacy. Nor should any male presenting as a female do so because biology can take over.

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I don’t think a stadium restroom is the issue either. I think it’s spas and pool changing facilities and Women’s prisons and college dorm rooms and summer overnight camps and, of course, sports.

In the grand scheme of things this has become all or none, and absolutely zero guardrails have been put in place to protect women and girls as a result of the activists, Democrats, academia, and the ignorant. Because of that, I choose bodily safety and fair opportunity for all real women and girls over coddling the delusions of some men and boys with delusions.

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Most adult "trans folk" at this moment in time ARE heterosexual men.

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Except no one is 'assigned' anything at birth. Sex determination begins at conception and is immutable, being observed at birth.

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No one is assigned female at birth unless there is an obvious question because of anatomical anomalies. Gender dysphoria is a condition of the mind not the body. It is distinct from genetic conditions (XY Swyer's, Partial/Compete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, etc).

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No girl. No quarter to this insanity. As soon as you begin redefining extreme corner case mental illness, you let the demons into the tent. Have you really not observed the decades long march of progressive legal war? Why no children and animals? IT IS NOT EFFING OBVIOUS to anybody who thinks men should compete against women. And they ARE coming for your protected groups. They already have done so. We can tolerate and we can pity, but we sure as hell do not have to validate this particular insanity where fewer than 1 percent of humans drive stakes through the heart of normalcy. Enough is enough.

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Noah Berlatsky, who argues on the side of pedophilia, also claims to be raising trans children.

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There’s a reason for childrens aid intervention right there

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In a sane world, surely.

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I think you speak for a great many people on the sports front. But it does get equally whacky in female only spaces.

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"No children or animals"

How remarkably short-sighted. It's been obvious for decades where this leads.

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"no children or animals, obvs"

That might be "obvs" to you, but it certainly is not to them. If you think they're going to stop "normalizing" along this or any other boundary then you really don't get it.

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Its open season on conventional wisdom, endorsed by cowardly vote seeking politicos

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This is just the latest absurdity in the destruction of our minds. To teach us to ignore what our eyes are seeing, and to counter what our minds and hearts know to be true. This is just one part of what is being done to all of us. What an onslaught!

And, whether or not you have young children or grandchildren, pay close attention to what is happening. The indoctrination in schools has reached obviously disgusting levels, but it is the slow boiling of the frog..... the critical race theory/anti-racism BS is part of this, too.

This is also what is happening with the MSM ignoring of truth and pushing a false narrative. With deplatforming and manipulating our emotions to fear and hate certain things and people.

The result is that people are losing the ability to think critically about absolutely everything. We are being separated from our very souls -- our spark of humanity. Our innate intelligence as humans.

Everything up is now down. Everything good is now bad. Everything true is now false. And the same in reverse. What does this tell you? Does it remind you of any cautionary tales? Perhaps the Pied Piper? Perhaps Pinocchio's Pleasure Island? Or the Emperor's New Clothes?

Even children's folk/fairy tales have been corrupted, so that the lessons of yore are perverted into something that disallows the warning to get through into the subconscious mind. The falsehoods are alluring and lulling the masses to sleep. This is all by design. It is critical that people wake up to this.

We need to start connecting ALL of these pieces of the puzzle. It's not just trans sports or bathrooms/locker rooms. It's not just critical race theory. It's not just political correctness. It's not just censorship and deplatforming. Look behind ALL of this to see the great picture emerge, the noose tightening.

It's not too late, but we need to wake each other up and refuse to comply. Call out the indoctrinating tools for who and what they are.

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Yes it is on all fronts. As a free speech wonk I've watched all of these issues come together into a tsunami over the last 10 years. I no longer believe it is random as the research has led to the same funders...Gates, Soros, Koch, Pritzker, Black Rock, et al. I'm so glad Gato is going here.

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We are being groomed for transhumanism.

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The book of Revelation is at hand and working itself out.

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March madness is practicing sharia law, as the only people forced to mask in the stadiums are cheerleaders. Womens groups remain silent. Akshaully, they’re called bleeders or mensturators or birthing people.

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I am left wondering why the cheerleaders allow this. Stop participating en masse.

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Years ago my then-girlfriend/now wife and I lived in San Francisco, and were literally the only straight people in the neighborhood.

One day we took a walk and a neighbor was having a garage sale, so we walked in, holding hands, to have a look.

I will never forget the dirty looks we got from the other clientele, and at one point one of them whispered "fucking breeders" just loud enough for us to hear.

We still laugh at the hilarity of it.

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The almost-worst job I ever had was with a women's "empowerment" organization focused mostly on the impoverished world, and whose leadership and staff were mostly lesbian, and i was treated like a pitiable unevolved person for being straight and being married to a guy, and one of the most progressive--who happened to be a woman from India, wanted to know if I was in a green card marriage 'cause obviously no one from that part of the world would have espoused themselves to me for any other reason.

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Breathtakingly odious hypocrisy is a foundational pillar of the modern left.

They preach tolerance while shouting down and de-platforming any that dare vocally disagree with whatever absurdity du jour is sweeping through the hive mind.

They wail about their victimization and oppression whilst advocating the social ostracism, cancellation and even incarceration of those who don't comply with their arbitrary and preposterous edicts.

Well, except for their leaders, of course.

Just ghastly people.

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Trenchant observations. There are at least two ways to dissociate from reality. One is to claim supernatural beliefs that cannot be tested, e.g. another world exists. A second is to invert (negate, deny) reality (These should be falsifiable.) These are common features in both religious and so-called "secular" movements. Put more bluntly, in the first case they are crazy. In the second, they are liars.

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I would take care in branding the faithful as crazy and thus dismiss many millennia of human experience.

Science cannot optimize human societies.

"Atheism is indeed the most daring of all dogmas... for it is the assertion of a universal negative."

~ G. K. Chesterton

If you have not already, I would recommend reading Thomas Aquinas and Saint Augustine.

They won't tell you how to build bridges, but they will provide principles to create successful societies, based upon universal human nature.

"Hope has two beautiful daughters; their names are Anger and Courage. Anger at the way things are, and Courage to see that they do not remain as they are."

~ St. Augustine of Hippo

If the wisdom of the ancients had been learned, we would not be where we are today.

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The sad thing is the groups that have experienced adversity in the past are often ones who pass the hate along.

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You see the remarks by the National Women's Law Center praising our Lia?

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Whenever I see this ridiculous discussion/debate I am reminded of the absolutely hysterical Monty Python Flying Circus sketch involving John Cleese boxing schools girls. I can’t find it on YouTube anymore but it sends a sarcastic message, despite being produced in the 1970s, to this entire nonsensical and intellectually bankrupt debate.

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this one I assume

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aItpexVaUpwS/

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THANK YOU!!! Bro, I needed that laugh!

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I find that one a bit hard to laugh at in this day and age.

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Understood. What was over-the-top britcom humor three or four decades ago is now toxic reality.

They’ve shredded our culture.

But like I said, I needed the laugh. Cathartic.

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That’s it.

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Thanks to whoever reposted. Old parodies force us to rethink, again,

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There was also that movie in the 1990s, Juanna Mann.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247444/

He couldn't make it in the men's league so he pretends to be a woman to dominate the league.

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The unfairness of competition infuriates me but as a woman and a parent - giving a man access to women’s private spaces just because he has decided he’s a woman makes me go ballistic. These universities are so corrupted by their woke ideology they can’t see the hypocrisy of taking away a safe space from women. They trot out women who support this - it’s clear that none of them ever played a sport. The whole thing is being run by the kid who got picked last in gym in elementary school.

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"What is the point of sports"? Why, the same thing that is the point of vaccines. Or newspapers.

Welcome to the post-telos society, where every activity is undertaken on the basis of stated intention, evidence of benefit is optional, and anyone talking about downsides is to be suppressed.

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Also worth noting that average joes, boys and men were already suppressed by this cabal. Every men is privileged, misogynistic, rapes every day and so on. Women didn't care as they mostly agreed on these false generalisations and they became more 'empowered' by media every day. Now the cabal will go after them and everyone should realise this can only be stopped if the sane people unite. But I'm afraid the wedge was already installed between women and men so the genderless poor people's society can be introduced.

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Yes, attack all the groups with perceived advantage. When the genderless poor are in power THEN we’ll know the meaning of abuse of power.

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But it's also like Dave Chappelle says--sometimes you got to get off the bus and walk. The women athletes must take care of this themselves. You know, there would be no race if the gun went off and the biological women stayed on the blocks. Look at the Original 9 of tennis from the 70s. Did they wait for a "sports governing body"? It's about courage.

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Hostage to sports scholarships.

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That's why it's about courage and principle.

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A man who tucks and takes some T suppressors = A woman

A woman = A birthing person

Therefore, A man = A birthing person

Can it get any more illogical or Orwellian?

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It is purposeful, to destroy logical thought. If you can believe men are women, you are rendered mentally ill and completely divorced from reality, easy picking for the crowd who want you to live in the meteverse fantasy for the rest of your life.

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Yep, it's got nothing to do with 'trans rights'.

It's just another attack on societal norms by the power hungry lunatics driving all of this insanity.

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Gender is a social construct and therefore there should just be sports, not men's or women's sports. So, everyone, regardless of biology or identity can try out for the one sports team. And if no biological girls or women ever get to play, that's just the way it is, tough luck. They can just take home economics classes and bake cookies for the "sports" team like the old days. See, I fixed this for everyone and we can stop arguing about it.

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The unintended consequences are many.

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The left doesn't even care about women...how can one woman vote for them?

They keep women down and humiliate them and consistently put them in danger. Look at all of the women who received awards this year....they're all men LOL! WTF...what is wrong with these women...why are they allowing this? Stop competing...just stop...what will they do then? If you continue to race against people like this...evil people...then you deserve what you get....STAND UP AND FIGHT!!

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Amen. I was on Tucker a few years ago discussing this very thing. That it’s progressed—or should I say regressed?—this far since then is unbelievable. Well, no more unbelievable than the pandemic, etc., I guess.

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“trans is a controversial issue and one people can debate all they like (preferably somewhere else)”

😆 👏 🏆

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“do we really want a world where simply taking suppressants to get your testosterone below 5 or 10 nanomoles per liter qualifies you as female as though this would erase all other variance from having undergone male puberty?”

Well, antibody titers are taken as a proxy for immunity. It’s just as ridiculous.

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What an incredible article! You’re spot on, as usual. I am the mother/grandma of 7 female athletes. I’ve attended their games, hauled them to practices, comforted their losses, and celebrated their victories. Their hard work overwhelming paid off. I’ve watched them develop into terrific young ladies - and one awesome woman. To have biological MEN undermined women’s sports is unconscionable, and I’m pissed.

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the whole thing is just sick. I love the cheetah meme. Excellent point

that bathing suit on "lia thomas" is positively obscene. His parents must be proud of him.

We are living in a clown world.

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Yes, "cheetah" was nice pun. On the money.

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