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Flo's avatar

We bought a bunch of Abbott labs blood antibody tests for Covid specific antibodies. Loads of people told us they were sure they had Covid early on. Nobody tested positive for antibodies. It was only when omicron arrived that we found antibody positive people, so the tests did actually work.

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pobrecollie's avatar

The PCR tests which were the "gold standard" were very easy to manipulate and the cycle thresholds were often set far too high.

Plus the problem with mass testing as was done, when the false positive rate (I saw between 0.8 and 4% for the PCR tests) is greater than the percentage of the population infected (I think it reached 0.8% at the very peak of winter 2020 where I am), you are more likely to have a false positive than an actual infection - so meaningless.

Then there was Elon tweeting that he took 4 antigen tests, two came back positive and two negative.

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Amy's avatar

My husband works with PCR everyday. He knows it backwards adn forwards. He told me about PCR on our second date over 15 years ago. Anyway, PCR is not meant to diagnose anything. PCR reveals the presence of genetic information. A cycle threshold or CT, is an indicator of how hard one is "listening" for the "sound" of genetic material. Many labs jacked up CT to over 33. They were listening very hard indeed. But what the NYTimes has reported on is that 80-90% of positives were not positive. Yes, they were positive for genetic material, viral fragments but the people were not sick and possibly had never been sick. Yes, they might have been exposed to the virus, maybe they put their hand to their nose sometime during the day inadvertently sniffing up viral fragment and tested "positive," or perhaps they had gotten sick but viral fragments can be present even a month after illness. Earlier in the 2000s the NYTimes reported on PCR being incorrect 100% of the time. PCR is very accurate but it does not EVER diagnose disease. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html and https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html

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BertPE's avatar

Imagine a disease so deadly you have to be tested to know you have it, with a vaccine cure so safe you have to be threatened to take it.

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Barney Rubble's avatar

the fatal flaw of the PCR test re: the Plandemic is the assay panel was CONTRIVED from Drosten's computer. Contrived is the word the FDA used after they were forced to admit it. Sure CT all the way up to 43 was important but they started with nonsense assays and then the eliminated N3 from the assays and then to diagnose Omicron they eliminated S, FFS! So the positivity matrix included 1 gene hit and the human control gene could be negative!

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Bob Feldtman's avatar

Oh wait, I just wrote that. Exactly correct! Smart doctor.

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Andy's avatar

As Fauci said, тАЬJust dead nucleotides.тАЭ

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Bob Feldtman's avatar

PCR can be run "too many times" When I did them on atherosclerotic plaque research it seems we ran 6 to 8 times? But running them 25 or 30 times is insane.

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Barekicks's avatar

The tests can be erratic. I had a Roche antibody test post-omicron which came back negative; my partner who had covid the same time as me did the test and got back a positive result. Even stranger, she barely had symptoms (just sniffles for literally one day) whereas I had pretty bad body aches and a runny nose for 3 days.

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Bob Feldtman's avatar

what kind? PCR antigen, or western blot, or ELISA. Be specific.

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