Long Covid is also a side effect of being jabbed, and suffering extended illness from Omi as a result. EVERYONE I know that was jabbed and had Omi, that is young (under 40) has been Capital S SICK for 2 or 3 weeks.
This PUREBLOOD was a little under the weather for 2 days, and back to normal.
@DanC-Husband had both Modernas last year. 3 weeks later his problems started with an unexplained rash (dermatologist later told us he had a large uptick in people coming in with the same type of rash he first saw on husband), joint pain, then myocarditis. Guess what's back. The rash.
Not Shingles (plus he's had the vaccines). Last year, he presented to the NP then a week later to the primary who both said it was Poison Ivy. I insisted to BOTH that it was not and that I wanted to go on the record that it was a direct result of the shots. They weren't buying it. Nothing they gave him worked so I took him to my dermatologist who took one look at it and said "Well, I'll tell you what it's NOT. It's NOT Poison Ivy but I don't know what it is" and proceeded to take a biopsy which came out inconclusive. He too strongly feels it was from the shots and told me at my visit a couple of months ago that after he saw Bill he had many other patients present with the same thing after their shots. Anyway, by that time the myocarditis kicked in and the rash was the least important problem. Now it's back. It does not follow a nerve path like Shingles does, It's blistered and transient and itchy.
I believe it. My sister, with several pre-existing coditions, was of course fully jabbed (Scotland), caught Covid twice anyway, and got "long Covid." The curious and happy ending is that folate supplements chased that away, or so she believed - she's normal again (as much as sisters can be, wink).
Non-ionizing EMFs / RF / microwave radiation is a tremendous assault on our health. And built on and enabled by scientific fraud and academic / "scientific" / regulatory - and media - capture. I wish more who see the fraud in the "vaccines" would take on EMFs also.
That said, I also believe viruses can be causative agents of disease, and the maps comparing high 5G zones and high covid zones are also denser metropolitan areas.
But there may be an influencing factor, as Beverly Rubik says. It's possible that exposure to microwave radiation makes outcomes of covid worse, while not denying the viral causative agent. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34778597/
But on so many levels our health is being eroded, and for most the damage from EMFs is cumulative and harder to trace - but it is a huge factor. (For some it makes life unbearable, and they have nowhere to go). More wireless infrastructure is going up everywhere, and the FCC is as much looking out for our health in their "guideline" setting as the FDA is looking out for our health in their "vaccine" "authorization and approval" process. (The FCC exposure limit was set in 1991, rubber stamped in 1996, and based on cherry picking / scientific fraud, using studies from the late 1980s.)
The non-ionizing / ionizing is obviously a real distinction - ionizing damages much faster, but the term non-ionizing is also used as a form of gaslighting, to imply it's not damaging, when it very much is.
May all scientific fraud and regulatory / media capture be brought down by honesty and integrity. And justice for the injured. https://wearetheevidence.org/
I have one data point: 29 yr old female, vaxed; diagnosed with myocarditis - she reports it as "Post Covid Heart Condition"
One of my earliest "Covid Memories" - May 2020 - Dr Judy Mikovits (long time Fauci associate then victim) asked (video interview) What will be the result of a Covid Vaccine? Answer: "Fifty Million Americans will die and they will blame it on Covid" Her quantitative estimate seems wildly excessive (at this point) but not the strategic insight.
From the study: "Because recent vaccination could affect plasma levels of inflammatory biomarkers and confound the interpretation of results, we selected samples from a subgroup of 48 participants with PASC, 52 without PASC, and 50 control participants who had not received a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine before blood sample collection."
So, the blood sample analysis excluded the "vaccinated". Those findings might have been illuminating, but weren't what they were looking for or wanted to find.
Many symptoms are the same also because the "vaccines" are based on the most disease-causing part of the virus, instructing the body to make spike protein. They do cover up "vaccine" damage, of course, and will blame it on anything besides the actual culprit. But long covid is real also ...
I call bullshit on the notion that these brilliant scientists, who can’t actually isolate a “novel virus,” can somehow still break this thing down to its component parts and analyse them. I believe the “spike protein” is just broken down cellular material budding or cleaving off from cells in the process of detoxification. And that there is so much focus on this alleged feature of this alleged virus because it matches the scary CGI renderings the media loves to use.
Show me a paper in which the isolation and analysis of this spike protein is described and the process repeated and I might change my mind. But barring that, I don’t think that emperor is wearing anything over his bare arse.
I have written here about a friend who has had every malady under the sun. I mean everything - Lyme, Fibromyalgia, Epstein-Barr, Norfolk, celiac, this-and-that-and-the-other thing intolerance, the latest being long covid - all of it. A professional invalid. Basically she has a longstanding, profound case of Munchhausen's; put another way, she is a hypochondriacal nutcase, and desperately needs a shrink. I saw her the other day, and as always, started the conversation with, "So tell me, C., how are you feeling?" Well!!! Giant breakthrough!! It's just amazing. She has finally gotten a handle on what's been ailing her for the past 40 years!! Ready? It's, it's...the barometer!! Yes!! She said she's finally noticed that when the barometer shifts she feels " fatigued", "unwell", etc. "So - basically we could say now that it's climate change, isn't it, C.?" I asked. She replied in the affirmative. "Wow, you are just such a sensitive little dragonfly!" My mockery was utterly lost on her. She beamed. Someone understood.
Because it was a lot of nonsense. They were calling things "long Covid" right off the bat, when people could only possibly have had it a few months earlier. Ignoring the fact that you equally get "long flu" or "long pneumonia" or anything else if you have a respiratory illness. You don't necessarily shake it off in a week. This was nothing new, but like so much with Covid, well understood things were deliberately forgotten. It's STILL too early to call anything "long Covid."
You also have to account for so many people taking antibiotics to "treat" Covid which will slow down healing and fog up the brain and cause other weird side effects because the immune system was weakened when it shouldn't have been.
First started hearing people talking about long COVID after it finally started sinking in to the general public that the case fatality rate was minuscule, making all the restrictions rather pointless from the perspective of saving lives. Figure the popularity of this narrative is largely driven by cope: rather than admit they'd been listening to clowns and acting like clowns, it's much easier to just transfer the object of fear from death to long COVID, and thereby retroactively justify the hysteria (while continuing to justify the ongoing hysteria).
The first time I heard about long COVID was from Dr. Robert Malone. The following quote about Dr. Malone is from the url below: "His concerns are personal, too. Malone contracted COVID-19 in February 2020, and later got the Moderna vaccine in hopes that it would alleviate his long-haul symptoms. Now he believes the injections made his symptoms worse: He still has a cough and is dealing with hypertension and reduced stamina, among other maladies. 'My body will never be the same,' he told me."
The one thing that I can't get over with him is having a whole career dealing with/working for the government and having a FIL who worked on secret governmental things (about which they had long and varied conversations according to him), he has a very good understanding of how things work with the govt re health and science and is an MD and a scientist BUT he was fooled by them about the vaccine, was startled that they might malign him for suggesting ivermectin (while understanding EUA's) and TOOK the vaccine knowing it new tech which had not been fully tested. I utterly appreciate that he got red pilled and decided to be an advocate for truth. Utterly, but it does zing my radar pretty powerfully. That said, I am a paid subscriber to his stack. He risked and basically ruined (for now) his rep. That aint a nothing burger.
Same. I read his Substack and subscribe, but still a little voice that says, if sounds too good to be true....is he really red-pilled. I guess for me the only long covid symptom I have is a lack of trust of anyone who styles themselves as an expert.
Ha! Funny and true. I have literally never seen someone so utterly red pilled on all topics as Malone. I too have trust issues since the turn of the decade. Every excuse I hear IRL gets a smirk and "Suuuure.". Not very sweet.
I remember watching one of his first interviews right when he was taking off on the anti vaxx side of the 'debate'.
I got the impression of someone who was not very convincing and has since been elevated far higher than he should be.
Like a cheap man's version of the real deal that was Kary Mullis.
"Damn Mullis is dead, but hey we have someone else we can push who claims they invented MRNA!! That's kind of similar to Mullis, who invented the PCR tech guys!"
I agree. I'm not sure I trust him, like I do McCullough, Alexander, Kory, Yeadon, etc.
On his "Friday Funnies" posted on Good Friday, he had a truly blasphemous cartoon about presenting Jesus with a Crucifixion Cake. Offensive and not remotely clever or amusing. What the hell?!?
Malone is helping our cause and I subscribe to his Substack; but like you, I'm a tad wary. Is this the Moynihan article that boosted Malone's credibility for you?
Husband and I had COVID. I am 60+, he is 80+ with co-morbidities. He got sicker than me and took longer to get better. (We treated early following the FLCCC protocol.) I likened his recovery to an 80+ person recovering from pneumonia - it just takes time. We continue to supplement and are both operating a full strength given our ages and overall general health. Long COVID may exist but it may be just another name for an individual's unique time to recovery.
Since only the deathly ill seemed to be bothered by a positive SARS-CoV-2 test. It stands to reason they have “LONG” the same shitty health they had prior to the positive PCR TEST.
Soon as I saw that CDC infographic (curse that word to hell) I knew we had a new roadmap to neverending hysteria on steroids. Genius, really. The Holy Grail of vax-injury perpetual deniability. You gotta credit your enemy when they show smarts at anything. I won't call it cunning because it's just a really blunt instrument, but still. Heck of a giant bucket for the true believers to jump into and stay.
“ this sort of poor-calibration and sensationalist scare mongering has no place in public health. it does real harm and invokes inapt reaction, attribution, and risk assessment.
it also prevents the identification of real maladies, especially vaccine injury. one of a cynical mindset might go so far as to wonder if this is why the CDC is so interested in pushing this flimsily fabricated narrative…”
I always hesitate to discredit those who claim chronic illness on the basis of fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, chronic Lyme, etc. But only because our medical system sucks entirely and utterly, particularly when it comes to treating mysterious ailments faced mostly by women. It is not a coincidence that most of those conditions - chronic Lyme excepted - are mainly treated with psych drugs & alternative therapies:
Women and men are not the same. I know many are denying the supremacy of biology as regards sex these days, but we have real medical differences due to our hormones, genes, & the expression of both in our bodies. Science hasn't done a great job of figuring out why women are more prone to diagnoses of anxiety & depression. (This is partly because a lot of that proneness to anxiety & depression is situational. ) Science as practiced by doctors isn't even great at ruling out the spectacularly obvious in the face of symptoms of anxiety & depression in female patients: nutritional deficiencies, hormone imbalances, thyroid issues, etc. Far easier to prescribe Big Pharma psych drugs.
We also tend to rely overly on complete blood counts and comprehensive metabolic panels (which are anything frigging but). We do not look directly at many markers of inflammation outside of CRP. Maybe complement proteins, on occasion. In other words, there may be markers indicating fibro, ME/CFS or even Long COVID, but we're too cheap and lazy to find them, primarily because they are mostly affecting women.
But I do fear that the psyops around Long COVID are going to cause an outsized number of purely psychosomatic cases, and that is incredibly sad and infuriating. Particularly given that the main reasons Long COVID has been so hyped is to sell subpar "vaccines" and to disguise the harms of said "vaccines."
Thank you! As one of those who suffers from long term Lyme, ME, etc. , I have struggled to function despite my best efforts to regain health. I go to ND’s or alternative minded docs because to lay out my symptoms in front of allopathic docs without corresponding testing showing a cause, I tend to get viewed “differently”. All in my head? Maybe? As a previous commenter stated, there is indeed a brain connection involved. Someday this will be discovered. Is it the organism itself responsible or a cascade of effects which are activated afterward?
I am not jabbed, have had C twice and my symptoms which I’ve dealt with for years did indeed become worse after the second C encounter. Strangely, as I was much less Ill the second time.
Just my two cents from the world where chronic illness is not clearly defined and where many have very real sufferings.
I suffer from acute Long Libtarditis. The enduring suffering and complete realization that this country is full of fucking lefty, chicken little, fearmongering, dipshits.
If you're asymptomatic...then why GAFF what you have. It's the SYMPTOMS that matter. If you don't have symptoms, then whatever you have, is form over substance.
On a separate note, egm, I like that you provide screenshots of morons' twitter accounts. Makes it very easy to post links to your columns directly on their Twitter accounts for all the world to see (well, until they delete them, anyway).
Long Covid is one of the many varieties of reignited EBV. Most people carry it and don’t even realise. Cold sores, fatigue, endo, adrenal and thyroid, fibromyalgia, and many more. Long Covid doesn’t exist, it’s just a name/ pigeon hole for more stuff they don’t understand!
Beware those who proclaim asymptomatic disease - simply a mechanism for assigning infectious status to anyone of any age, health background or economic status; purely political diagnoses for high jacking any and all civil rights under the guise of public health. There are physical pro dromal such as cardiopathies or tia's that can be silent for long periods of time, but I know of no infectious process which after the incubation process is entirely symptom free. Thanks for the great data.
I read years ago a theory or opinion that our bodies contract and defeat many things over our lifetimes, completely without our knowledge (because we don't get symptoms). It was even suggested that many/most people defeat cancers of one kind or another without knowing it, for that reason.
This comment of mine obviously is not scientific, but it does comport with the idea that our bodies protect us in ways we never know.
Our immune systems are constantly exercised by viruses, cancer cells, bacteria, etc. Any immune event knocks down our vitamin D levels which leaves us more exposed (at least temporarily) to the next immune event.
I recall another theory I read way back when. It was observed (again, this isn't a scientific comment, and I don't know *who* did the "observing"), anyway, it was observed that a disproportionate number of people who "never were sick as kids" tended to develop serious or fatal cancers or other maladies later in life.
Again, the notion is that getting sick and recovering regularly or normally is positioning you to develop a robust immune system, whereas "never getting sick" leaves you more vulnerable to bad things later in life.
I always instinctively figured our bodies are in "triage" mode all the time. We are always exposed to something detrimental. We are detecting and battling back the most urgent threats on a priority basis and allocating limited resources. Example: (when I was younger and crazier) Every time I went partying and (over)drinking with the boys within a week of recovering from a cold or flu I had a relapse. I never had a relapse if I didn't poison myself and I made sure that I slept well for a week or two. The body truly is a "system". (related: not even a sniffle in 2 years - started vitamin D supplements. I'm convinced it helps.)
Regarding vitamin D and sunshine: I also noticed over the years during my topsy-turvy careers that I never got sick when working outdoor jobs, only when I had desk jobs. Stress is confounding factor with that though, since I find outdoor jobs to be kind of a vacation. I am convinced that mental health affects our bodies in tangible ways and stressing my brain out doing mental work weakens my system (but I like the big bucks desk jobs provide. Everything is a compromise. LOL).
My partner wonders why I keep opening windows at home and pack my tent and sleeping bag every chance I get so I can sleep in fresh air under the stars and wake up to crisp exurban air and birdsong....
With all due respect, el gato malo, I think the tone of your article is giving short shrift to those suffering from Long Covid. I've treated over 30 people for acute Covid with an early treatment protocol consisting of a combination of IVM/HCQ/Zinc/Vit D/Vit C/fluvoxamine/budesonide/Zithromax/claritin/aspirin. Not all drugs were used for all patients and courses varied so different drug combinations were used depending on response/symptoms/side effects. When I embarked on this endeavour, after 20 years of retirement from a surgical specialty, I did not really expect to see the therapeutic response to these drugs be as vigorous as it was. With four exceptions, every single patient recovered completely. None were hospitalized or died. Three patients developed Long Covid. Of those, two did not begin treatment until the sixth week of their illness. The third received early treatment although at that time I followed FLCC protocol which limited treatment to 3 days, which is what she received. Later she received additional IVM and supplements but continues, nine months from the date of her illness, to complain of brain fog, loss of taste and fatigue. Those are also the primary symptoms of the other two patients. One patient has undergone testing by Intelldx and has moderately abnormal inflammatory biomarkers including Interleukin 6 , TNF and C Reactive Protein. Dr. Patterson recommended pravastatin and maraviroc and I am hopeful she is able to follow through with that therapy. By the way, the first two of these patients were vaxxed at least once and the third was unvaxxed. Additionally I have a friend who was previously extremely fit and athletic who developed a case of the sniffles in April 2020 later determined to be Covid (I was not involved in her care so I don't know the details of her diagnostic workup). She developed what she calls Long Haul but is in fact pulmonary hypertension with severe fatigue, presumably secondary to microclots in her pulmonary vasculature as far as the pulmonary hypertension is concerned. She is completely disabled and was forced to move from her residence at 6,000 ft. elevation to sea level in order to avoid constantly being on oxygen. In summary, from my admittedly small sample I am convinced that Long Haul is a serious sequelae of C19 viral infection and we are still at a stage where we really don't know how most of these cases will turn out, nor even what the causal mechanisms are. I now recommend a prolonged one month treatment with IVM and aspirin for any acute C19 since I see no downside to speak of with that treatment. I definitely don't think any of my patients were some sort of hysterical phenomenon. I also think that a lot of your readers' flippant comments, unfortunately riffing off your lead, disparaging this group of patients is deplorable and they are embarassing themselves with their insensitive ignorance, imo.
I'm someone who didn't fall into the Covid hysteria trap, remain unvaccinated to this day - and by being here on Substack - clearly was someone not willing to swallow MSM's BS - not only with Covid but on most issues and went in search of the truth tellers. I found them - in spades (thank God) - and el gato - you are definitely one of my favorites. However, with all due respect, for the first time, I have to disagree with your conclusions. I am also an RN and not someone who is prone to hypochondria despite everything I've seen in my long career. I also have pretty damned decent clinical assessment skills. With all of that said - after 2 years of being exposed to Covid from countless patient interactions - and never once worrying about it - Omicron was the one variant that I didn't escape. It caught up to me and my family at Christmas and of the four of us - myself and my daughter (both unvaxxed) did much better symptomatically then my vaxxed husband and son. I felt relatively free of symptoms by about day 5 with the worst symptoms experienced on day 2. My family needed much more of my attention than I needed to give myself. So - here I am thinking that this is great - I've gotten myself a "live attenuated viral vaccine" and I'm good to go moving forward. I can't say for sure when, exactly, I started to notice that something wasn't right, but, by the 2nd week of January, there was no denying the symptoms. I should preface this by saying that Long Covid was not on my radar and most definitely was not something I felt anxious or worried about. However - I have been convinced that Covid vaccine injury is real - for many, many months now, having personally observed serious adverse events (and deaths) in dozens of my own patients (especially since the boosters became available). But, I had not encountered anyone - personally or professionally, who had experienced Long Covid (at least wasn't aware of it up to that point) and honestly did not know much about it at all. I started to do some reading on the symptoms that I was experiencing - namely - serious brain fog and lack of concentration and fatigue (basically the same symptoms I'd had with Covid) and the possibility of Long Covid started to seem plausible. I went to my number one source for all things Covid treatment - FLCC - and saw that they did have a protocol in place for Long Covid (I-Recover). The first line treatment is Ivermectin - which I did not have and if I did try to obtain it - would set me back another week or more so I decided to go with the 3rd line treatment which included most of the supplements I already had been using for months. The only thing I had to add was an H2 histamine blocker and I went with Famotidine (Zantac). Within a week - I felt almost back to baseline and was kind of amazed, really. But, me being me - after about 2 weeks of daily treatment and feeling normal again - I decided I didn't need it anymore. By this time - it's probably mid to late February. Within a few weeks - my symptoms came roaring back and I stupidly continued to play the same game - treat for a week or 2 then stop, symptoms return, rince repeat. Nurses do tend to be the worst patients..... But here we are at the end of May and I'm now desperate enough for permanent relief that I bit the bullet and ordered Ivermectin - which I now anxiously await. As much as I don't want to fall into the category of a psycosomatic, hypochondriac "Karen" in the eyes of those that I so admire - I do believe that Long Covid is real. And....if Dr. Kory and the FLCC believe it to be real - to the point that they would offer a treatment protocol - my gut (and 30 years of nursing experience), tells me that I am much better served by their clinical judgement and expertise than I would ever be from Anthony Fauci's NIH........
Long COVID is part of a chronic condition called Karentitis.
Long Covid is also a side effect of being jabbed, and suffering extended illness from Omi as a result. EVERYONE I know that was jabbed and had Omi, that is young (under 40) has been Capital S SICK for 2 or 3 weeks.
This PUREBLOOD was a little under the weather for 2 days, and back to normal.
Long Covid = Jabbed illness!
@DanC-Husband had both Modernas last year. 3 weeks later his problems started with an unexplained rash (dermatologist later told us he had a large uptick in people coming in with the same type of rash he first saw on husband), joint pain, then myocarditis. Guess what's back. The rash.
Kittynana-- I am so sorry! All so preventable!
All I can say is, try the Nutraceuticals. D, C, Zinc, K2, NAC, Quercetin, etc. They can’t hurt
D and K can kill you if you take too much
Not Shingles (plus he's had the vaccines). Last year, he presented to the NP then a week later to the primary who both said it was Poison Ivy. I insisted to BOTH that it was not and that I wanted to go on the record that it was a direct result of the shots. They weren't buying it. Nothing they gave him worked so I took him to my dermatologist who took one look at it and said "Well, I'll tell you what it's NOT. It's NOT Poison Ivy but I don't know what it is" and proceeded to take a biopsy which came out inconclusive. He too strongly feels it was from the shots and told me at my visit a couple of months ago that after he saw Bill he had many other patients present with the same thing after their shots. Anyway, by that time the myocarditis kicked in and the rash was the least important problem. Now it's back. It does not follow a nerve path like Shingles does, It's blistered and transient and itchy.
I did the first round of reporting then they wanted extensive information, some of which we can't get our hands on. Intentionally, I'm sure.
I believe it. My sister, with several pre-existing coditions, was of course fully jabbed (Scotland), caught Covid twice anyway, and got "long Covid." The curious and happy ending is that folate supplements chased that away, or so she believed - she's normal again (as much as sisters can be, wink).
We feel the same way about brothers
I think klinghardt indicated that methlyfolate helped either Lyme and or viral issues
Winner.
Right. This reductionist approach is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. All are symptoms, none are causative. Gotta dive into the causative agents. A bit dated but still legit - https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/emfs-5g-vaccines-the-real-causes?s=w
Non-ionizing EMFs / RF / microwave radiation is a tremendous assault on our health. And built on and enabled by scientific fraud and academic / "scientific" / regulatory - and media - capture. I wish more who see the fraud in the "vaccines" would take on EMFs also.
That said, I also believe viruses can be causative agents of disease, and the maps comparing high 5G zones and high covid zones are also denser metropolitan areas.
But there may be an influencing factor, as Beverly Rubik says. It's possible that exposure to microwave radiation makes outcomes of covid worse, while not denying the viral causative agent. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34778597/
But on so many levels our health is being eroded, and for most the damage from EMFs is cumulative and harder to trace - but it is a huge factor. (For some it makes life unbearable, and they have nowhere to go). More wireless infrastructure is going up everywhere, and the FCC is as much looking out for our health in their "guideline" setting as the FDA is looking out for our health in their "vaccine" "authorization and approval" process. (The FCC exposure limit was set in 1991, rubber stamped in 1996, and based on cherry picking / scientific fraud, using studies from the late 1980s.)
https://mdsafetech.org/problems/industry-influence-in-science/ - Much good info here. And here - https://scientists4wiredtech.com/
The non-ionizing / ionizing is obviously a real distinction - ionizing damages much faster, but the term non-ionizing is also used as a form of gaslighting, to imply it's not damaging, when it very much is.
May all scientific fraud and regulatory / media capture be brought down by honesty and integrity. And justice for the injured. https://wearetheevidence.org/
emf was covered st the better way conference last week! It is becoming more recognized.
KarenITIS is inflamed Karen. KarenTITIS is inflamed chest of a Karen. ;-)
"Long Covid" is largely a coverup for vaccine damage. In an amazing coincidence, many of the symptoms are the same.
And also jab-junkies repeatedly get CoVid thanks to the vaccines’ effectiveness and safety.
But thank goodness they're vaxxed, it could have been much worse!
They only have Medium CoVid? 😊
They still won't admit it and blame us. They hate us for being right.
I have one data point: 29 yr old female, vaxed; diagnosed with myocarditis - she reports it as "Post Covid Heart Condition"
One of my earliest "Covid Memories" - May 2020 - Dr Judy Mikovits (long time Fauci associate then victim) asked (video interview) What will be the result of a Covid Vaccine? Answer: "Fifty Million Americans will die and they will blame it on Covid" Her quantitative estimate seems wildly excessive (at this point) but not the strategic insight.
From the study: "Because recent vaccination could affect plasma levels of inflammatory biomarkers and confound the interpretation of results, we selected samples from a subgroup of 48 participants with PASC, 52 without PASC, and 50 control participants who had not received a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine before blood sample collection."
So, the blood sample analysis excluded the "vaccinated". Those findings might have been illuminating, but weren't what they were looking for or wanted to find.
Were vaccinated people excluded from the two PASC groups?
As I read/understood it, only for the in depth blood analysis.
wonder why🤔..scared of what they might find perhaps
When I saw that CDC ad on Twitter, I immediately thought that it was a diversion from vaccine injuries. Brilliantly sinister, really.
Many symptoms are the same also because the "vaccines" are based on the most disease-causing part of the virus, instructing the body to make spike protein. They do cover up "vaccine" damage, of course, and will blame it on anything besides the actual culprit. But long covid is real also ...
I call bullshit on the notion that these brilliant scientists, who can’t actually isolate a “novel virus,” can somehow still break this thing down to its component parts and analyse them. I believe the “spike protein” is just broken down cellular material budding or cleaving off from cells in the process of detoxification. And that there is so much focus on this alleged feature of this alleged virus because it matches the scary CGI renderings the media loves to use.
Show me a paper in which the isolation and analysis of this spike protein is described and the process repeated and I might change my mind. But barring that, I don’t think that emperor is wearing anything over his bare arse.
It's as real as fibromyalgia
There are real people suffering hard to diagnose, debilitating conditions ... not all of them are brainwashed by pharma ... https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/chronic-pain-mecfs-post-exertional?s=r
CTRL+F through that and not a mention of Vitamin D deficiency, the most likely cause for any of those symptoms.
that and general anxiety.
I have written here about a friend who has had every malady under the sun. I mean everything - Lyme, Fibromyalgia, Epstein-Barr, Norfolk, celiac, this-and-that-and-the-other thing intolerance, the latest being long covid - all of it. A professional invalid. Basically she has a longstanding, profound case of Munchhausen's; put another way, she is a hypochondriacal nutcase, and desperately needs a shrink. I saw her the other day, and as always, started the conversation with, "So tell me, C., how are you feeling?" Well!!! Giant breakthrough!! It's just amazing. She has finally gotten a handle on what's been ailing her for the past 40 years!! Ready? It's, it's...the barometer!! Yes!! She said she's finally noticed that when the barometer shifts she feels " fatigued", "unwell", etc. "So - basically we could say now that it's climate change, isn't it, C.?" I asked. She replied in the affirmative. "Wow, you are just such a sensitive little dragonfly!" My mockery was utterly lost on her. She beamed. Someone understood.
How, then, do you account for the fact that Long Covid was identified long before the vaccines were in use?
How, then, do you account for the fact that Long Covid was identified long before the vaccines were in use?
Because it was a lot of nonsense. They were calling things "long Covid" right off the bat, when people could only possibly have had it a few months earlier. Ignoring the fact that you equally get "long flu" or "long pneumonia" or anything else if you have a respiratory illness. You don't necessarily shake it off in a week. This was nothing new, but like so much with Covid, well understood things were deliberately forgotten. It's STILL too early to call anything "long Covid."
You also have to account for so many people taking antibiotics to "treat" Covid which will slow down healing and fog up the brain and cause other weird side effects because the immune system was weakened when it shouldn't have been.
How, then, do you account for the fact that Long Covid was identified long before the vaccines were in use?
The research back then indicated strongly that those with Long Covid hadn't had Covid at any point and had histories of anxiety and other disorders.
People react differently to vaccine injury and the damage is different of course
First started hearing people talking about long COVID after it finally started sinking in to the general public that the case fatality rate was minuscule, making all the restrictions rather pointless from the perspective of saving lives. Figure the popularity of this narrative is largely driven by cope: rather than admit they'd been listening to clowns and acting like clowns, it's much easier to just transfer the object of fear from death to long COVID, and thereby retroactively justify the hysteria (while continuing to justify the ongoing hysteria).
The first time I heard about long COVID was from Dr. Robert Malone. The following quote about Dr. Malone is from the url below: "His concerns are personal, too. Malone contracted COVID-19 in February 2020, and later got the Moderna vaccine in hopes that it would alleviate his long-haul symptoms. Now he believes the injections made his symptoms worse: He still has a cough and is dealing with hypertension and reduced stamina, among other maladies. 'My body will never be the same,' he told me."
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/
Note: The Atlantic article is a hit piece, but confirms my recollection.
The one thing that I can't get over with him is having a whole career dealing with/working for the government and having a FIL who worked on secret governmental things (about which they had long and varied conversations according to him), he has a very good understanding of how things work with the govt re health and science and is an MD and a scientist BUT he was fooled by them about the vaccine, was startled that they might malign him for suggesting ivermectin (while understanding EUA's) and TOOK the vaccine knowing it new tech which had not been fully tested. I utterly appreciate that he got red pilled and decided to be an advocate for truth. Utterly, but it does zing my radar pretty powerfully. That said, I am a paid subscriber to his stack. He risked and basically ruined (for now) his rep. That aint a nothing burger.
Same. I read his Substack and subscribe, but still a little voice that says, if sounds too good to be true....is he really red-pilled. I guess for me the only long covid symptom I have is a lack of trust of anyone who styles themselves as an expert.
Ha! Funny and true. I have literally never seen someone so utterly red pilled on all topics as Malone. I too have trust issues since the turn of the decade. Every excuse I hear IRL gets a smirk and "Suuuure.". Not very sweet.
I remember watching one of his first interviews right when he was taking off on the anti vaxx side of the 'debate'.
I got the impression of someone who was not very convincing and has since been elevated far higher than he should be.
Like a cheap man's version of the real deal that was Kary Mullis.
"Damn Mullis is dead, but hey we have someone else we can push who claims they invented MRNA!! That's kind of similar to Mullis, who invented the PCR tech guys!"
I agree. I'm not sure I trust him, like I do McCullough, Alexander, Kory, Yeadon, etc.
On his "Friday Funnies" posted on Good Friday, he had a truly blasphemous cartoon about presenting Jesus with a Crucifixion Cake. Offensive and not remotely clever or amusing. What the hell?!?
I went back to look at the Jesus cartoon. I think you have the source right.
Malone is helping our cause and I subscribe to his Substack; but like you, I'm a tad wary. Is this the Moynihan article that boosted Malone's credibility for you?
https://insidethevatican.com/news/newsflash/letter-46-2022-thurs-mar-10-what/
Yes, it was part of the nudges that the behavioral scientists delivered to ensure the initial fear and thus compliance was maintained.
Excellent observation.
Excellent point.
Husband and I had COVID. I am 60+, he is 80+ with co-morbidities. He got sicker than me and took longer to get better. (We treated early following the FLCCC protocol.) I likened his recovery to an 80+ person recovering from pneumonia - it just takes time. We continue to supplement and are both operating a full strength given our ages and overall general health. Long COVID may exist but it may be just another name for an individual's unique time to recovery.
Or, perhaps, long covid may simply be some individual's weakened immune system being unable to clear virus.
Since only the deathly ill seemed to be bothered by a positive SARS-CoV-2 test. It stands to reason they have “LONG” the same shitty health they had prior to the positive PCR TEST.
Exactly. Caused by their shitty processed/high sugar diets which leads to chronic system-wide inflammation and ultimately wrecks havoc on immunity.
Thank you.
Thank YOU!
Soon as I saw that CDC infographic (curse that word to hell) I knew we had a new roadmap to neverending hysteria on steroids. Genius, really. The Holy Grail of vax-injury perpetual deniability. You gotta credit your enemy when they show smarts at anything. I won't call it cunning because it's just a really blunt instrument, but still. Heck of a giant bucket for the true believers to jump into and stay.
Exactly. Nailed it.
“ this sort of poor-calibration and sensationalist scare mongering has no place in public health. it does real harm and invokes inapt reaction, attribution, and risk assessment.
it also prevents the identification of real maladies, especially vaccine injury. one of a cynical mindset might go so far as to wonder if this is why the CDC is so interested in pushing this flimsily fabricated narrative…”
I always hesitate to discredit those who claim chronic illness on the basis of fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, chronic Lyme, etc. But only because our medical system sucks entirely and utterly, particularly when it comes to treating mysterious ailments faced mostly by women. It is not a coincidence that most of those conditions - chronic Lyme excepted - are mainly treated with psych drugs & alternative therapies:
https://www.drugs.com/condition/fibromyalgia.html
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17720-myalgic-encephalomyelitischronic-fatigue-syndrome-mecfs
Women and men are not the same. I know many are denying the supremacy of biology as regards sex these days, but we have real medical differences due to our hormones, genes, & the expression of both in our bodies. Science hasn't done a great job of figuring out why women are more prone to diagnoses of anxiety & depression. (This is partly because a lot of that proneness to anxiety & depression is situational. ) Science as practiced by doctors isn't even great at ruling out the spectacularly obvious in the face of symptoms of anxiety & depression in female patients: nutritional deficiencies, hormone imbalances, thyroid issues, etc. Far easier to prescribe Big Pharma psych drugs.
We also tend to rely overly on complete blood counts and comprehensive metabolic panels (which are anything frigging but). We do not look directly at many markers of inflammation outside of CRP. Maybe complement proteins, on occasion. In other words, there may be markers indicating fibro, ME/CFS or even Long COVID, but we're too cheap and lazy to find them, primarily because they are mostly affecting women.
But I do fear that the psyops around Long COVID are going to cause an outsized number of purely psychosomatic cases, and that is incredibly sad and infuriating. Particularly given that the main reasons Long COVID has been so hyped is to sell subpar "vaccines" and to disguise the harms of said "vaccines."
Thank you! As one of those who suffers from long term Lyme, ME, etc. , I have struggled to function despite my best efforts to regain health. I go to ND’s or alternative minded docs because to lay out my symptoms in front of allopathic docs without corresponding testing showing a cause, I tend to get viewed “differently”. All in my head? Maybe? As a previous commenter stated, there is indeed a brain connection involved. Someday this will be discovered. Is it the organism itself responsible or a cascade of effects which are activated afterward?
I am not jabbed, have had C twice and my symptoms which I’ve dealt with for years did indeed become worse after the second C encounter. Strangely, as I was much less Ill the second time.
Just my two cents from the world where chronic illness is not clearly defined and where many have very real sufferings.
I suffer from acute Long Libtarditis. The enduring suffering and complete realization that this country is full of fucking lefty, chicken little, fearmongering, dipshits.
Charles, you are not the only sufferer from "Long Libtarditis" (love it!)-- It's becoming epidemic; shall I say pandemic (eek, I now hate that word)?
I feel your pain. And yes, very much acute, at the present time.
If you're asymptomatic...then why GAFF what you have. It's the SYMPTOMS that matter. If you don't have symptoms, then whatever you have, is form over substance.
On a separate note, egm, I like that you provide screenshots of morons' twitter accounts. Makes it very easy to post links to your columns directly on their Twitter accounts for all the world to see (well, until they delete them, anyway).
This over-testing of corona makes me think of those people who go to casinos and give the slot machine "just one more try."
Long Covid is one of the many varieties of reignited EBV. Most people carry it and don’t even realise. Cold sores, fatigue, endo, adrenal and thyroid, fibromyalgia, and many more. Long Covid doesn’t exist, it’s just a name/ pigeon hole for more stuff they don’t understand!
Yes I too had shingles reignited after being sick with covid but have spent much time and effort getting rid of it out of my body
Blame the einsteins who decided to use PCR for diagnosis.
Beware those who proclaim asymptomatic disease - simply a mechanism for assigning infectious status to anyone of any age, health background or economic status; purely political diagnoses for high jacking any and all civil rights under the guise of public health. There are physical pro dromal such as cardiopathies or tia's that can be silent for long periods of time, but I know of no infectious process which after the incubation process is entirely symptom free. Thanks for the great data.
We are exposed to viruses constantly and never develop symptoms to most.
I read years ago a theory or opinion that our bodies contract and defeat many things over our lifetimes, completely without our knowledge (because we don't get symptoms). It was even suggested that many/most people defeat cancers of one kind or another without knowing it, for that reason.
This comment of mine obviously is not scientific, but it does comport with the idea that our bodies protect us in ways we never know.
You are on the right track.
Our immune systems are constantly exercised by viruses, cancer cells, bacteria, etc. Any immune event knocks down our vitamin D levels which leaves us more exposed (at least temporarily) to the next immune event.
I recall another theory I read way back when. It was observed (again, this isn't a scientific comment, and I don't know *who* did the "observing"), anyway, it was observed that a disproportionate number of people who "never were sick as kids" tended to develop serious or fatal cancers or other maladies later in life.
Again, the notion is that getting sick and recovering regularly or normally is positioning you to develop a robust immune system, whereas "never getting sick" leaves you more vulnerable to bad things later in life.
I always instinctively figured our bodies are in "triage" mode all the time. We are always exposed to something detrimental. We are detecting and battling back the most urgent threats on a priority basis and allocating limited resources. Example: (when I was younger and crazier) Every time I went partying and (over)drinking with the boys within a week of recovering from a cold or flu I had a relapse. I never had a relapse if I didn't poison myself and I made sure that I slept well for a week or two. The body truly is a "system". (related: not even a sniffle in 2 years - started vitamin D supplements. I'm convinced it helps.)
Regarding vitamin D and sunshine: I also noticed over the years during my topsy-turvy careers that I never got sick when working outdoor jobs, only when I had desk jobs. Stress is confounding factor with that though, since I find outdoor jobs to be kind of a vacation. I am convinced that mental health affects our bodies in tangible ways and stressing my brain out doing mental work weakens my system (but I like the big bucks desk jobs provide. Everything is a compromise. LOL).
My partner wonders why I keep opening windows at home and pack my tent and sleeping bag every chance I get so I can sleep in fresh air under the stars and wake up to crisp exurban air and birdsong....
Right on, Andrew!
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With all due respect, el gato malo, I think the tone of your article is giving short shrift to those suffering from Long Covid. I've treated over 30 people for acute Covid with an early treatment protocol consisting of a combination of IVM/HCQ/Zinc/Vit D/Vit C/fluvoxamine/budesonide/Zithromax/claritin/aspirin. Not all drugs were used for all patients and courses varied so different drug combinations were used depending on response/symptoms/side effects. When I embarked on this endeavour, after 20 years of retirement from a surgical specialty, I did not really expect to see the therapeutic response to these drugs be as vigorous as it was. With four exceptions, every single patient recovered completely. None were hospitalized or died. Three patients developed Long Covid. Of those, two did not begin treatment until the sixth week of their illness. The third received early treatment although at that time I followed FLCC protocol which limited treatment to 3 days, which is what she received. Later she received additional IVM and supplements but continues, nine months from the date of her illness, to complain of brain fog, loss of taste and fatigue. Those are also the primary symptoms of the other two patients. One patient has undergone testing by Intelldx and has moderately abnormal inflammatory biomarkers including Interleukin 6 , TNF and C Reactive Protein. Dr. Patterson recommended pravastatin and maraviroc and I am hopeful she is able to follow through with that therapy. By the way, the first two of these patients were vaxxed at least once and the third was unvaxxed. Additionally I have a friend who was previously extremely fit and athletic who developed a case of the sniffles in April 2020 later determined to be Covid (I was not involved in her care so I don't know the details of her diagnostic workup). She developed what she calls Long Haul but is in fact pulmonary hypertension with severe fatigue, presumably secondary to microclots in her pulmonary vasculature as far as the pulmonary hypertension is concerned. She is completely disabled and was forced to move from her residence at 6,000 ft. elevation to sea level in order to avoid constantly being on oxygen. In summary, from my admittedly small sample I am convinced that Long Haul is a serious sequelae of C19 viral infection and we are still at a stage where we really don't know how most of these cases will turn out, nor even what the causal mechanisms are. I now recommend a prolonged one month treatment with IVM and aspirin for any acute C19 since I see no downside to speak of with that treatment. I definitely don't think any of my patients were some sort of hysterical phenomenon. I also think that a lot of your readers' flippant comments, unfortunately riffing off your lead, disparaging this group of patients is deplorable and they are embarassing themselves with their insensitive ignorance, imo.
Thank you for posting.
I'm someone who didn't fall into the Covid hysteria trap, remain unvaccinated to this day - and by being here on Substack - clearly was someone not willing to swallow MSM's BS - not only with Covid but on most issues and went in search of the truth tellers. I found them - in spades (thank God) - and el gato - you are definitely one of my favorites. However, with all due respect, for the first time, I have to disagree with your conclusions. I am also an RN and not someone who is prone to hypochondria despite everything I've seen in my long career. I also have pretty damned decent clinical assessment skills. With all of that said - after 2 years of being exposed to Covid from countless patient interactions - and never once worrying about it - Omicron was the one variant that I didn't escape. It caught up to me and my family at Christmas and of the four of us - myself and my daughter (both unvaxxed) did much better symptomatically then my vaxxed husband and son. I felt relatively free of symptoms by about day 5 with the worst symptoms experienced on day 2. My family needed much more of my attention than I needed to give myself. So - here I am thinking that this is great - I've gotten myself a "live attenuated viral vaccine" and I'm good to go moving forward. I can't say for sure when, exactly, I started to notice that something wasn't right, but, by the 2nd week of January, there was no denying the symptoms. I should preface this by saying that Long Covid was not on my radar and most definitely was not something I felt anxious or worried about. However - I have been convinced that Covid vaccine injury is real - for many, many months now, having personally observed serious adverse events (and deaths) in dozens of my own patients (especially since the boosters became available). But, I had not encountered anyone - personally or professionally, who had experienced Long Covid (at least wasn't aware of it up to that point) and honestly did not know much about it at all. I started to do some reading on the symptoms that I was experiencing - namely - serious brain fog and lack of concentration and fatigue (basically the same symptoms I'd had with Covid) and the possibility of Long Covid started to seem plausible. I went to my number one source for all things Covid treatment - FLCC - and saw that they did have a protocol in place for Long Covid (I-Recover). The first line treatment is Ivermectin - which I did not have and if I did try to obtain it - would set me back another week or more so I decided to go with the 3rd line treatment which included most of the supplements I already had been using for months. The only thing I had to add was an H2 histamine blocker and I went with Famotidine (Zantac). Within a week - I felt almost back to baseline and was kind of amazed, really. But, me being me - after about 2 weeks of daily treatment and feeling normal again - I decided I didn't need it anymore. By this time - it's probably mid to late February. Within a few weeks - my symptoms came roaring back and I stupidly continued to play the same game - treat for a week or 2 then stop, symptoms return, rince repeat. Nurses do tend to be the worst patients..... But here we are at the end of May and I'm now desperate enough for permanent relief that I bit the bullet and ordered Ivermectin - which I now anxiously await. As much as I don't want to fall into the category of a psycosomatic, hypochondriac "Karen" in the eyes of those that I so admire - I do believe that Long Covid is real. And....if Dr. Kory and the FLCC believe it to be real - to the point that they would offer a treatment protocol - my gut (and 30 years of nursing experience), tells me that I am much better served by their clinical judgement and expertise than I would ever be from Anthony Fauci's NIH........