There are essentially no consequences for them if they get things wrong. Sure, in theory, their reputation can suffer, but people's memories are short, and in all probability the same is true of the experts themselves, who conveniently forget all the times their "feels over reals" epistemological yardstick led them astray. Easy to forget when it keeps getting you engagement.
If Musk wanted to really improve his platform, he should expand the community notes feature to include some kind of prediction tracking. "While it is too early to tell if this prediction is accurate, this account has a 5.3% accuracy rating based on previous tweets."
They have utterly lost the plot and lost the trust, what little there was. Out here in the streets the anger over their endless"the sky is falling" "the covid is going to kill you" "you have to mask up to protect everyone" has left the credentialed in the sewer. The more concerning part of this is their proximity to power and power gathers their hot air and uses this to grow their agenda. Stay still and strong, my frens. It's only going to get crazier.
I worked at an educational institution and meetings were held there in which attendees were told to generalize the risk of monkeypox to "everyone" so as not to appear insensitive. It smacked of the same thing that had happened with COVID (albeit for a different flavor of ideological reason), where we had that bizarre pressure not to insinuate that it could be mild for most and severe only for a select, especially at-risk group.
The only real friend I’ve ever had block me and disappear from my life without explanation (and without any real arguments prior-she just ghosted and then I figured it out), is a prog-lefty woman on disability who spends her entire day amped on the current thing on twitter. When I suggested that twitter wasn’t a healthy place for all social interaction, she got angry with me.
The American Academy of Pediatrics teamed up with Stanford’s Virality Project and sent us ready made tweets that were supposed to debunk what they call “Bad Actors.” Basically AAP & Virality call the people telling the truth including their own Board Certified Members “Bad Actors.” I’m still getting emails with rest made tweets. Videos on how to “debunk” & intervene against “bad actors” like me. I got an email last week with 3 videos & it was all about how to shut up truth tellers, doctors and parents alike. The social scientist giving the lecture kept calling the good people, the public health docs and the MDs who believe the CDC & these other bald faced liars. We live in a sick, inverted world.
Lol, perfect example of what results from giving "participation trophies" to a generation of kids, now grown adults!🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤨
Yep, the "experts" bar is not the only one that's slipped- its across the board and in every industry, we have at least 2x generations that dont know quality or genuine when they see it. 🤨🤔🤦♀️Flash forward another 10 years and a "genuine antique IKEA" will be the new standard of quality.😐😑
I love the economic analysis/discussion in this post & in the comments, but - honestly - do we have to start thinking MORE cynically? Are these people really people or government plants/bots? Is Twitter real or government psy-warfare against us? When something is THIS bad, don't you have to wonder if it's DELIBERATELY bad? If 99% of McD's burgers are poisoned, would you really believe McD is just a poorly run place or that it just has the wrong incentives? Wouldn't you begin to ask if McD's is out to get you?
I think we need to embrace the possibility that the government is waging psychological-warfare against us - are they truly out to get us? And I know that sounds crazy, but can we keep giving them the benefit of the doubt? At this point, isn't it starting to look deliberate?
To me, beyond this study, the biggest worry is the evidence that Fauci et al steered doctors away from what we actually knew about COVID in order to push not just the vaccine but THIS particular vaccine. Why? I mean I get vaccines - that can be explained by the usual greed/incompetence stuff, but why this particular vaccine? It's as if the whole point of everything they did was to get this particular vaccine into everybody...but why? That seems awfully deliberate. They'd have made the same $, enjoyed the same power w/ any vaccine, so why the focus on this one?
And maybe it doesn't matter. At this point, our government has been so perfectly awful that who cares why they've been that perfectly awful. If 99% of McDs burgers were poisoned, would you care why? Isn't the response the same? Regardless?
Long and short, I think everybody needs to ask, "Hans, are we the baddies?"
From early February of 2020, I have posted innumerable times on Facebook telling my myriad of followers (okay, maybe 20) to relax and wash their hands. It didn’t work-- the frightened chose to remain that way and the rational remained rational. As old as I am, I was stunned that no one could be convinced by facts.
I have friends who loved Twitter from the jump. I could never understand why. It seemed like all it did was give one a false sense of importance because you could (seemingly) watch your own tweet "echo" throughout the Net and see its reach.
All I see in Twitter is a giant megaphone; I predicted to a friend WAAAYYY back that the US government would never allow that kind of tool to be in the hands of the Plebes. You could get some people saying the Wrong ThingK and it get trending - and that could be Very Bad for Govt indeed.
It was only a matter of time before the govt would ensure that no one except their chosen voices would be amplified.
This is how Twitter works - govt blares NOISE so loud that it drowns out all other Signal. Once the govt drowns out all other signals with noise, it then can (and does) select for amplification ONLY that which it wants to be heard.
I'll bet if someone were to dig down on those accounts, you'd find Statist Turtles all the way down.
Matt Taibbi scratched the Twitter files and all that shook out were govt asshats - CIA, FBI, NGOs, all of them driving the algorithm.
What I want to know is what a "pert" is and why there are so many who are not perts anymore, i.e., ex-perts. Sort of like golf balls. What do they do with the rest of the golf? In the end, thinking for yourself seems to be a lost art among those who would be kings. Meowdios!
There are essentially no consequences for them if they get things wrong. Sure, in theory, their reputation can suffer, but people's memories are short, and in all probability the same is true of the experts themselves, who conveniently forget all the times their "feels over reals" epistemological yardstick led them astray. Easy to forget when it keeps getting you engagement.
If Musk wanted to really improve his platform, he should expand the community notes feature to include some kind of prediction tracking. "While it is too early to tell if this prediction is accurate, this account has a 5.3% accuracy rating based on previous tweets."
But what would the numbers be if we controlled for the Eric Feigl-Ding factor?!?
They have utterly lost the plot and lost the trust, what little there was. Out here in the streets the anger over their endless"the sky is falling" "the covid is going to kill you" "you have to mask up to protect everyone" has left the credentialed in the sewer. The more concerning part of this is their proximity to power and power gathers their hot air and uses this to grow their agenda. Stay still and strong, my frens. It's only going to get crazier.
I worked at an educational institution and meetings were held there in which attendees were told to generalize the risk of monkeypox to "everyone" so as not to appear insensitive. It smacked of the same thing that had happened with COVID (albeit for a different flavor of ideological reason), where we had that bizarre pressure not to insinuate that it could be mild for most and severe only for a select, especially at-risk group.
The only real friend I’ve ever had block me and disappear from my life without explanation (and without any real arguments prior-she just ghosted and then I figured it out), is a prog-lefty woman on disability who spends her entire day amped on the current thing on twitter. When I suggested that twitter wasn’t a healthy place for all social interaction, she got angry with me.
The American Academy of Pediatrics teamed up with Stanford’s Virality Project and sent us ready made tweets that were supposed to debunk what they call “Bad Actors.” Basically AAP & Virality call the people telling the truth including their own Board Certified Members “Bad Actors.” I’m still getting emails with rest made tweets. Videos on how to “debunk” & intervene against “bad actors” like me. I got an email last week with 3 videos & it was all about how to shut up truth tellers, doctors and parents alike. The social scientist giving the lecture kept calling the good people, the public health docs and the MDs who believe the CDC & these other bald faced liars. We live in a sick, inverted world.
Lol, perfect example of what results from giving "participation trophies" to a generation of kids, now grown adults!🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤨
Yep, the "experts" bar is not the only one that's slipped- its across the board and in every industry, we have at least 2x generations that dont know quality or genuine when they see it. 🤨🤔🤦♀️Flash forward another 10 years and a "genuine antique IKEA" will be the new standard of quality.😐😑
Believe Nothing You Hear, and Only One Half That You See.
I suspect a similar study conducted over traditional “media” would yield similar results, because the economics are similar: scare sells.
I was always amused at how we were told that A) this was a “novel” coronavirus, and B) we should follow the advice of experts.
How exactly could someone be an expert in something that was supposedly brand new?
I love the economic analysis/discussion in this post & in the comments, but - honestly - do we have to start thinking MORE cynically? Are these people really people or government plants/bots? Is Twitter real or government psy-warfare against us? When something is THIS bad, don't you have to wonder if it's DELIBERATELY bad? If 99% of McD's burgers are poisoned, would you really believe McD is just a poorly run place or that it just has the wrong incentives? Wouldn't you begin to ask if McD's is out to get you?
I think we need to embrace the possibility that the government is waging psychological-warfare against us - are they truly out to get us? And I know that sounds crazy, but can we keep giving them the benefit of the doubt? At this point, isn't it starting to look deliberate?
To me, beyond this study, the biggest worry is the evidence that Fauci et al steered doctors away from what we actually knew about COVID in order to push not just the vaccine but THIS particular vaccine. Why? I mean I get vaccines - that can be explained by the usual greed/incompetence stuff, but why this particular vaccine? It's as if the whole point of everything they did was to get this particular vaccine into everybody...but why? That seems awfully deliberate. They'd have made the same $, enjoyed the same power w/ any vaccine, so why the focus on this one?
And maybe it doesn't matter. At this point, our government has been so perfectly awful that who cares why they've been that perfectly awful. If 99% of McDs burgers were poisoned, would you care why? Isn't the response the same? Regardless?
Long and short, I think everybody needs to ask, "Hans, are we the baddies?"
From early February of 2020, I have posted innumerable times on Facebook telling my myriad of followers (okay, maybe 20) to relax and wash their hands. It didn’t work-- the frightened chose to remain that way and the rational remained rational. As old as I am, I was stunned that no one could be convinced by facts.
“inevitably”
There are two kinds of people:
1. Those who confidently extrapolate from incomplete data.
I have friends who loved Twitter from the jump. I could never understand why. It seemed like all it did was give one a false sense of importance because you could (seemingly) watch your own tweet "echo" throughout the Net and see its reach.
All I see in Twitter is a giant megaphone; I predicted to a friend WAAAYYY back that the US government would never allow that kind of tool to be in the hands of the Plebes. You could get some people saying the Wrong ThingK and it get trending - and that could be Very Bad for Govt indeed.
It was only a matter of time before the govt would ensure that no one except their chosen voices would be amplified.
This is how Twitter works - govt blares NOISE so loud that it drowns out all other Signal. Once the govt drowns out all other signals with noise, it then can (and does) select for amplification ONLY that which it wants to be heard.
I'll bet if someone were to dig down on those accounts, you'd find Statist Turtles all the way down.
Matt Taibbi scratched the Twitter files and all that shook out were govt asshats - CIA, FBI, NGOs, all of them driving the algorithm.
Most people do their jobs at a C- level. This is true across the board. So what should we have expected?
What I want to know is what a "pert" is and why there are so many who are not perts anymore, i.e., ex-perts. Sort of like golf balls. What do they do with the rest of the golf? In the end, thinking for yourself seems to be a lost art among those who would be kings. Meowdios!