Much to my chagrin, I agree with your not-quite-serious point...
In other news, I was having a too-argumentative debate with my doctor today. Him arguing that the blasphemous unvaccinated are the ones with the high viral count and could get the blessed vaccinated sick. He refused to admit that it also works the other way around: the vaccinated are also getting sick and could get the unvaccinated sick. And (allegedly) they’re at higher risk. But the unvaccinated aren’t running around like ‘fraidy cats demanding to live in bubbles.
What kind of vaccine is that if those who take it are so convinced they will get horribly sick anyway?
Why take it at all, if that’s the case?
Why am I even having these pointless conversations anyway? Oh, right, because, as a doctor, I’d assumed he would know that he’d been sold a bridge.
I have been saying this for way too many months at this point. We'd have been way better off if government had only 'mandated' an hour-long walk in the sunshine on days it was possible.
But then, this was never about keeping us healthy.
"if you’re going to claim the right to impose actions on others for their own good, you’d better be ready to accept the same in return."
Public health "experts" knew the jabs did not stop infection or transmission, but they were very successful at convincing the general public that the jabs would stop the pandemic and at maligning the unvaccinated for "hesitancy". Everyone must submit to the jab for the "greater good". I can't count the number of times I repeated this information on Fakebook and Twitter, ending with the sentence "Your jab protects you and no one else". I've since amended that statement with a "maybe".
There is no greater good. The fully jabbed can still be infected and transmit. They can still become very ill and be hospitalized. They can even die. They have died. They have similar viral loads to the unvaccinated. They may be more likely to have mild or asymptomatic infection with high viral loads.
Even now, many people either don't know or cannot accept that reality. The CDC Director gave this information to Wolf Blitzer on national television...and still the myth persists.
Vaccine passports are pointless, but I guess they're gonna have to learn the hard way when outbreaks occur and there are no unvaccinated people around to blame.
It truly is a matter of personal risk assessment.
Do we force high school students to have their wisdom teeth pulled?
Do we force college students to have prophylactic appendectomies or tonsillectomies?
Do we force all middle-aged people to take statins?
Should we outlaw cigarettes and booze?
Have sugar rations?
Is caffeine good or bad this week?
This virus has an IFR of 0.3% (0.15% for those age 70 and under) with all the co-morbidities baked in. They are asking for proof of vaccination to eat in a NYC restaurant...for a virus with an IFR of 0.3%. The PHE data last reported the estimated CFR for the Delta variant to be 0.2%-0.3% in early July.
And, really, are we supposed to believe the jabs magically work better in the United States than they do in England or Israel? England and Israel both have public health services. They have very good data, and they are more honest about what is happening. Really, folks, they aren't rushing out boosters of last year's jab because the first two jabs worked so well.
Yes, there are more Delta cases in the unvaccinated in England (about 3 times more), but there are more deaths in the fully vaccinated. As of August 15, 59% of the Israelis with severe or critical C19 are fully vaccinated...and 13% of those people are under 60.
Isn't the goal to not die?
Whatever is going on...is not about personal or public health...is not about a virus with an IFR of 0.3%. This is about something else and appealing to reason doesn't work with most people.
They are lying about the adverse events following injections.
They are lying about the deaths following injections.
They are lying about the efficacy of the injections.
They are already laying the ground work for boosters in the fall and after.
For a virus with an IFR of 0.3%.
They are trying to normalize "vaccine passports" to conduct everyday life for vaccines that they've already acknowledged do not stop infection or transmission?
For a virus with an IFR of 0.3%.
Does that make sense to you?
They...whoever they are, whatever they plan...only succeed if we comply.
Thank you for the "bedtime facts and truths" again. I always like to read your stuff right before I take an epsom salt bath and read my novel, and vent in my journal. I have an almost 95 year old mom. I have visited her twice during the last 18 months, much to my sisters being against it, fearing I would "infect her" as I had traveled. Going again next month to celebrate her b'day. She still works in her yard/garden as much as she can and walks in the house (kitchen, dining, living room...down the hallway) at least 30 times when it's inclement weather. She also eats fairly well-and isn't overweight. My husband and I have always been gym rats, runners, cyclists and swimmers. We weigh what we did in high school in our mid/high 60s. SO much truth to this-but so many will not want to even see it and face it head on. I heard people blame our past President for their weight, so they will not want to hear this!
A lady commented to a newspaper article that everyone else needed to keep wearing masks because she's diabetic and overweight. (Never mind masks don't work.) But seriously, lady? Seriously? No shame.
Amen to all that! This was becoming pretty evident by the early summer of 2020. All along our focus has been misplaced. If we were going to vaccinate, age should not have been the criterion for the jab. It should have been the vulnerable - those with one or multiple comorbidities. It's just so unfortunate that there was no clarion call for sterilizing vaccines instead of the leaky ones we got due to all sorts of short-sighted motives.
The metabolic health community has been shouting these truths from the rooftops since March or April 2020.
It's been obvious since the start, once enough case data on comorbidities came out, that metabolically well people were at low risk, and metabolically sick people were at high risk. And as you point out, this blunts the effect of the obvious age stratification of severity.
What choices would governments or public health authorities make if they took appropriate action based on this knowledge?
Well done! Based on the data one would think a health revolution would be grabbing hold of the world, but sadly that’s not the case. “My body. My Mountain Dew!”…and don’t you dare try and take that from me.
yeah but a lot of comorbidities are due to (a) the crap that's been put in food for the past 50 years, (b) environmental stresses, especially in poorer communities, (c) jobs so precarious and poorly paid that you pretty much have to eat junk food. etc., b/c no time to cook, no money to buy decent stuff. And, another point, even WITH comorbidities the (alleged) covid19 mortality rate still mostly follows the expected lifespan of americans, anyway.
I visualize Covid as just giving everybody a little shove. If you're young, worst case it knocks you over and you get back up. But if your 300lb exercise-avoiding diabetic butt is standing next to a cliff, that shove has consequences. Sure you may have stood there a while if Covid didn't come along, but something was bound to push you over. I think this is supported by the Covid age stratified mortality curve is shaped like the all-cause mortality curve.
US public health policy makes sense if you understand that the goal is to protect hospitals from overflow, and that was the explicit goal in the UK ("Protect the NHS"). It's not about doing what's best for the population.
What can I say, these figures quantify what anyone with the brains of a rabbit could see for themselves a year ago - even without following John Iaonnidis, Sucharit Bhakdi, Sunetra Gupta, Michael Levitt, Johan Giesecke etc., etc. Never mind Kari Mullis R.I.P. !
I just KNEW you were a ginger!
Much to my chagrin, I agree with your not-quite-serious point...
In other news, I was having a too-argumentative debate with my doctor today. Him arguing that the blasphemous unvaccinated are the ones with the high viral count and could get the blessed vaccinated sick. He refused to admit that it also works the other way around: the vaccinated are also getting sick and could get the unvaccinated sick. And (allegedly) they’re at higher risk. But the unvaccinated aren’t running around like ‘fraidy cats demanding to live in bubbles.
What kind of vaccine is that if those who take it are so convinced they will get horribly sick anyway?
Why take it at all, if that’s the case?
Why am I even having these pointless conversations anyway? Oh, right, because, as a doctor, I’d assumed he would know that he’d been sold a bridge.
I have been saying this for way too many months at this point. We'd have been way better off if government had only 'mandated' an hour-long walk in the sunshine on days it was possible.
But then, this was never about keeping us healthy.
"if you’re going to claim the right to impose actions on others for their own good, you’d better be ready to accept the same in return."
Public health "experts" knew the jabs did not stop infection or transmission, but they were very successful at convincing the general public that the jabs would stop the pandemic and at maligning the unvaccinated for "hesitancy". Everyone must submit to the jab for the "greater good". I can't count the number of times I repeated this information on Fakebook and Twitter, ending with the sentence "Your jab protects you and no one else". I've since amended that statement with a "maybe".
There is no greater good. The fully jabbed can still be infected and transmit. They can still become very ill and be hospitalized. They can even die. They have died. They have similar viral loads to the unvaccinated. They may be more likely to have mild or asymptomatic infection with high viral loads.
Even now, many people either don't know or cannot accept that reality. The CDC Director gave this information to Wolf Blitzer on national television...and still the myth persists.
Vaccine passports are pointless, but I guess they're gonna have to learn the hard way when outbreaks occur and there are no unvaccinated people around to blame.
It truly is a matter of personal risk assessment.
Do we force high school students to have their wisdom teeth pulled?
Do we force college students to have prophylactic appendectomies or tonsillectomies?
Do we force all middle-aged people to take statins?
Should we outlaw cigarettes and booze?
Have sugar rations?
Is caffeine good or bad this week?
This virus has an IFR of 0.3% (0.15% for those age 70 and under) with all the co-morbidities baked in. They are asking for proof of vaccination to eat in a NYC restaurant...for a virus with an IFR of 0.3%. The PHE data last reported the estimated CFR for the Delta variant to be 0.2%-0.3% in early July.
And, really, are we supposed to believe the jabs magically work better in the United States than they do in England or Israel? England and Israel both have public health services. They have very good data, and they are more honest about what is happening. Really, folks, they aren't rushing out boosters of last year's jab because the first two jabs worked so well.
Yes, there are more Delta cases in the unvaccinated in England (about 3 times more), but there are more deaths in the fully vaccinated. As of August 15, 59% of the Israelis with severe or critical C19 are fully vaccinated...and 13% of those people are under 60.
Isn't the goal to not die?
Whatever is going on...is not about personal or public health...is not about a virus with an IFR of 0.3%. This is about something else and appealing to reason doesn't work with most people.
They are lying about the adverse events following injections.
They are lying about the deaths following injections.
They are lying about the efficacy of the injections.
They are already laying the ground work for boosters in the fall and after.
For a virus with an IFR of 0.3%.
They are trying to normalize "vaccine passports" to conduct everyday life for vaccines that they've already acknowledged do not stop infection or transmission?
For a virus with an IFR of 0.3%.
Does that make sense to you?
They...whoever they are, whatever they plan...only succeed if we comply.
So, don't comply.
Thank you for the "bedtime facts and truths" again. I always like to read your stuff right before I take an epsom salt bath and read my novel, and vent in my journal. I have an almost 95 year old mom. I have visited her twice during the last 18 months, much to my sisters being against it, fearing I would "infect her" as I had traveled. Going again next month to celebrate her b'day. She still works in her yard/garden as much as she can and walks in the house (kitchen, dining, living room...down the hallway) at least 30 times when it's inclement weather. She also eats fairly well-and isn't overweight. My husband and I have always been gym rats, runners, cyclists and swimmers. We weigh what we did in high school in our mid/high 60s. SO much truth to this-but so many will not want to even see it and face it head on. I heard people blame our past President for their weight, so they will not want to hear this!
A lady commented to a newspaper article that everyone else needed to keep wearing masks because she's diabetic and overweight. (Never mind masks don't work.) But seriously, lady? Seriously? No shame.
But a local gym is requiring proof of vaccine to go there. (Wouldn’t be my thing. Just find it ironic.)
Amen to all that! This was becoming pretty evident by the early summer of 2020. All along our focus has been misplaced. If we were going to vaccinate, age should not have been the criterion for the jab. It should have been the vulnerable - those with one or multiple comorbidities. It's just so unfortunate that there was no clarion call for sterilizing vaccines instead of the leaky ones we got due to all sorts of short-sighted motives.
The metabolic health community has been shouting these truths from the rooftops since March or April 2020.
It's been obvious since the start, once enough case data on comorbidities came out, that metabolically well people were at low risk, and metabolically sick people were at high risk. And as you point out, this blunts the effect of the obvious age stratification of severity.
What choices would governments or public health authorities make if they took appropriate action based on this knowledge?
Well done! Based on the data one would think a health revolution would be grabbing hold of the world, but sadly that’s not the case. “My body. My Mountain Dew!”…and don’t you dare try and take that from me.
yeah but a lot of comorbidities are due to (a) the crap that's been put in food for the past 50 years, (b) environmental stresses, especially in poorer communities, (c) jobs so precarious and poorly paid that you pretty much have to eat junk food. etc., b/c no time to cook, no money to buy decent stuff. And, another point, even WITH comorbidities the (alleged) covid19 mortality rate still mostly follows the expected lifespan of americans, anyway.
When does it become absolutely clear that all this drama over the past 18 months & the current battle unfolding was NEVER about our health
I visualize Covid as just giving everybody a little shove. If you're young, worst case it knocks you over and you get back up. But if your 300lb exercise-avoiding diabetic butt is standing next to a cliff, that shove has consequences. Sure you may have stood there a while if Covid didn't come along, but something was bound to push you over. I think this is supported by the Covid age stratified mortality curve is shaped like the all-cause mortality curve.
US public health policy makes sense if you understand that the goal is to protect hospitals from overflow, and that was the explicit goal in the UK ("Protect the NHS"). It's not about doing what's best for the population.
feb 2020 data from worldmeter: wuhan 98% coincident co-morbidity and old age, roughly same for lombardi, italy.
nyc data about 94% co-morbidity and a bit lower age pattern
from mar 2020 the lockdowns were wrong, should have targeted frail and elderly!
us cdc/fda is not in to observations....
What can I say, these figures quantify what anyone with the brains of a rabbit could see for themselves a year ago - even without following John Iaonnidis, Sucharit Bhakdi, Sunetra Gupta, Michael Levitt, Johan Giesecke etc., etc. Never mind Kari Mullis R.I.P. !
The USDA Food Pyramid did more to wreck American's health over the last 50 years than any virus ever could.