Elon responded to serial liar HRC with the real story about pelosi, legend.
“We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.”
We don't know if what he linked to is the real story. But we do know he couldn't be suspended for saying there might be a little more to what's been reported than we've been told.
All people are complicated. He's one of those uniquely-wired types who defy all categorization.
He's got serious work ethic and, I'd suspect, great instincts.
He's also made those billions off of stuff I myself despise. Keep out of space and fuck them EVs and don't partner with the CCP, one o' my trusty mottoes. Don't spread your seed widely, another one. Don't up the chances of engendering batshit-crazy progeny, a third.
But if he's the catalyst through which free speech flows, I ain't gonna hate that.
I never did see the tweet (I also don't twitter). I went thru pages on a search engine and the only thing I found was how he was a conspiracy theorist. I searched his tweets as best I could without an account. Nothing. I have an IDEA of what he said... the obvious things, but not the actual thing. They won't let people see for themselves without running the disinfo gauntlet.
Whether the original story was true or not, interesting questions are indeed raised, best one (in my mind) 'in the middle of the night, how did a gay, homeless, drug addict wearing only underwear make his way to the Pelosi home, get past security and cameras, I'm sure they have them, and get into the house, did he walk?, drive?, use public transit?. How was he even able to find it?
It is interesting that Pelosi is not cooperating with the investigation. He is not handing over the videos from the cameras surrounding and (perhaps) from within the home.
Where is the police body cam footage? Let the light shine on all the facts.
Me thinks the story Musk linked to may have had some truth to it. And just imagine, if the Dems had let this slide and not made such a huge commotion about 'right wing nuts', it would have all stayed quiet. That's Karma!
And the NYT then tweeted that Musk tweeted out a link to fake news or something like that and Musk tweeted back that the NYT is incorrect, he did not link to the NYT.
Things may go south at Twitter, but for now Musk provides endless entertainment.
The quote is from Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn, referring to the bolshevik regime. (Probably gets rarely attributed because nobody can remember the spelling of his last name.)
The way we win is at least partially by being accurate in everything we say--including, if necessary, saying we don't have enough info yet to draw an accurate conclusion.
It's quite possible that Musk knew it was accurate, he just doesn't have a good source for proof. I only say that because Musk doesn't come across as someone who flies by the seat of his pants.
I don't know... it seems quite probable that a far left Castro nudist with a BLM sign in his front yard found in his underwear in Pelosi's house was in fact a right-wing Trump supporter.
What I find ironic is that the people that say trumpers are all fascists are disproving this very assertion by the fact that they can say that. No self respecting fascist would allow people to speak freely about fascism, or anything else they disagree with.
Right?!?! 😂. At the same time they say all Trumpers must be silenced at all cost! (And then actually having government operatives do just that). Who are the fascists again?
It all reeks of desperation. The lies come so quick and are so divorced from what anyone with eyes not blinded by ideology can see, only the blind can believe it.
The media and the Dems know most people only read headlines and forget about the story within a day. They think all they have to do is lie just enough to get most people to look past it.
They believe the blowback from the lie is never as great as the effect of the lie, which is too often true. Most Dems still believe everything about Russiagate without questions, as absolute fact. Most of them still believe the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian propaganda.
Sadly, that is true. They continue to get away with outright lying, because eventually the truth comes out but they know people have already moved on. The original lie is a front page headline and the correction a week later is hidden on the back page.
I can’t quite figure out if those punishing days of lock downs and FEAR have been forgotten, or people just want to move on and are choosing to remember it differently--like it was a bad party they attended and managed to grin and bear their way through it.
I have not, and will not, forget. The shear level of bullshit pushed with such conviction and hubris is making my blood pressure rise as I write.
You’re exactly right; all the blatant lies and fairytales were the most pernicious part--these charlatans lying to all of us and mandating behavior because they were so superior in intellect to the ignorant and child-like proletariat. We (the proletariat) could not possibly think and decide for ourselves.
That "law enforcement" went along with blatantly unconstitutional power grabs and egregious violations of basic human rights is another thing I shall never forget -- or forgive. Remember, scum like the "Wretch-mer" have only as much power as the uniformed paid enforcers give her. All who enforced disgraced themselves beyond repair and redemption in my book.
I get your point, but I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion.
What is different today is not really the amount of bullshit, it is that with tools like social media ans substack, we can see more of it. This can be depressing if we let it; but it can also be freeing, as in now that we know what they're up to, we can choose not to let them get away with it.
I think that's what Gato's point was with this post. It will not be easy, but would not even have been possible without the relative freedom of the internet communities and their ability to shed light on the cockroaches.
Perhaps it’s my lack of imagination, but I just don’t see any substantive change possible. I did not need social media (of which I’ve partaken of none) to let me know that Covid was the biggest scam in modern times. I am no sage, but I knew (and called) bullshit at the start.
And for all of the internet's and social media’s purported truth telling ability, it really did not do very much to quell the hysteria. As a matter of fact; I would say it brought an immediacy that stoked people into a frenzy.
I want what everyone who reads El Gato wants: some accountability for this EPIC pfraud, a dismantling of these giant, unaccountable Fed agencies, and, most of all, NEVER again to have a repeat of the suspension of our liberties—by anyone, for any reason. Ever.
That was my point prior: all of the lies exposed and narrative unraveling has not opened as many people’s eyes as I had hoped. I just don’t know what it’s going to take.
When your choices are Schumer or Zeldin, what change can you really expect. I’ll never vote for a Dem. again, but so then I get to vote for the party that brought me the Iraq war? And really, both parties showed a cowardice these last three years that makes me detest them all.
So, to be clear, I’m not looking to vote my way to a better country, nor am I hopeful that some billionaire will uphold the constitution when our judiciary has decided to sit out most of the last three years.
All of that said, I feel really hopefully because I’ve found this community. Give me a task to help bring about more individual liberty (aside from living it myself) and I will get it done.
I believe that 'what it's going to take' is what Burning Bright, another substack writer, calls a 'Scare Event.' Brandon's mumblings about a 'nuclear Armageddon' are a start. The 101st Airborne 3 miles from Ukraine, ready to fight the Russians directly, might contribute. Failure of some of the world's main financial institutions likely also a part.
Regarding the Iraq war, that is not really the fault of the parties, it's the fault of the NWO/WEF droids (the Bushes are there, so are the Clintons and Obama and Brandon, and Lindsey Graham -- so both Dems and GOP well represented).
There are some fresh faces and folks of courage stepping up this go-round. But I agree with you, voting alone will not solve the problem -- when it has been part of the problem.
That 'immediacy stoking people to a frenzy' cuts both ways. Let's hope that as the Scare Event materializes, we'll see more and more Normies getting red-pilled. You are right, so far there aren't enough and many people are trying to go on as if nothing is happening. That won't be possible at some point. Then, and only then, will major changes be possible.
How did David LePape (whose behavior was criminal and horrific) get from Berkley to the elite neighborhood on the Pacific side of San Francisco in the middle of the night in his underwear? (Maybe a 40 minute drive by car) He also had to find Nancy's house. Did he get a ride from his X wife and mother of two of his kids. I think he lived in the van but was it operable or was it just on blocks as so many of them are. He was a dealer in this weird drug that was discovered among the Pygmies of central Africa but now is grown in Mexico. It's a psychedelic, sort of. Was it a drug deal gone very bad? I hear a third person opened the door. So, like so many events this one will remain in conspiratorial territory. I think the take away for those of us in California is that we need criminal laws that carry consequences, and the homeless are not harmless.
One thing that's clear to me, is we will likely learn just about as much regarding the truth of this incident as we have about the truth of the Mandalay Bay mass shooting.
We the People are asking, it’s just not a concern of the media. I’ve got better security than what apparently is at the Pelosi home and I’m not a multi-millionaire or a public official and I don’t live in a crime-ridden city. It’s very peculiar.
I know right the husband of the third most powerful person in the US and this guy just lets himself in and beats Paulie with hammer before anyone else gets there.
Real Breaking News as Seen on FB today: "Lasers were once a huge Scientific Breakthrough; Now we use them to play with cats........Computers were once a huge Scientific Breakthrough; now we use them to look at cats.....Conclusion: Science was made for Cats."
I fear that we may be counting our chickens before they hatch. Musk seems to be very good at playing/trolling both sides. The recent announcement of creating a Content Moderation Council is a prime example of pretending to change things, but not really changing anything:
Elon Musk says he's creating a 'content moderation council' for Twitter after Kanye West's account was reinstated
There is bound to be some form of content moderation. Sadly, we can't allow everything. Things like death threats, child porn, content that encourages illegal activity. These are the things that need moderation.
Agree. Those are the things that should be banned. Not speech. If you don’t like what someone is saying (bc it’s hateful to you or others, or hurts your feelings) DON’T READ IT. Block that person. Don’t read twatter. Or comments anywhere. Stay in your little corner. But maybe, if most people can discourse you MIGHT see something that isn’t just your little echo chamber and make you think. Maybe. We can always hope.
Those forms of speech are already illegal. Originally, Elon stated that Twitter should permit anything that is not unlawful. After a few hours in charge, he decided to form committees to discuss it further.
I saw that someone said that those who have been banned should be on the committee. Made me smile with approval. Having more than your own thoughts on such an important topic seems like a wise decision. Who is on the committee... that will be the thing. Ultimately, he will decide.
It also sounds like he might be looking for a way to "rate" content. not explicitly ban it, but to make it more tuned to different audiences. Hard to imagine such a thing can exist in a world where porn is not that difficult to find.
That being said, I don't like the idea of different twitter designations like black twitter, alt right twitter, etc.
True. Those are examples of legally bound moderation. Why do you need a "diverse" Content Moderation Council to take care of the latter, unless you are also planning to go beyond those parameters?
It sounds to me like he is creating something for a grey area. I could be wrong, but it could be this moderation council has to be in complete agreement or the information will not be moderated. I could be wrong, won't be the first time.
Moderation is fine until they start moderating something in a way that you disagree with.
Back in the QAnon days, when I was still a liberal, I didn't see anything wrong with accusations of disinformation and subsequent deplatforming (although I was sorry to see Trump leave Twitter because he was so entertaining).
Fast forward to the Covid panic, where it was obvious to me that the people in charge had their heads up their butts in terms of science.
Consequently, because censorship requires someone to determine what's true in a world where there's a lot of gray area, I'm now completely anti-censorship except in already illegal cases—child pornography, specific incitements to violence, doxxing and harassment, and the kinds of speech the First Amendment doesn’t allow online or off.
You assume this billionaire understands his billions. Autism creates some strange artifacts in intensity. Musk has a rather odd sense of humor and might be confused by our discomfort. Not even sure he ever wanted to actually own Twitter but wanted change. Who knows what might be next.
His stated position seems to be that he's doing it because it's the right thing to do, but also he thinks it can be commercially profitable. Doing well by doing good, so to speak.
David Icke joined Twitter, posted a meme critical of Musk, and was immediately banned. So, yeah. Rumors of the bird's freedom may have been exaggerated.
I just briefly looked at Musk's twitter and he stated clearly that no changes have yet been made tot he moderation algo's, no one's been reinstated etc.
He shouldn't be cast as either and certainly not make any declarations immediately. I'd let things play out and see how he does. But one thing everyone should know - he is not a savior. We should simply enjoy that the people who want to suppress truth and free exchange of ideas are crazyoutoftheirminds MAD.
Well one can only hope they shut down all the left wing trolls out there shouting the “N” word (because words are bad, hurtful, evil or something) because they “can” and they are trying to “show us all” how the “hate speech” will ruin twatter. And then claiming (earnestly and as if they MEAN IT) that it’s all the Trumpers, or evil Republicans, or MAGA or whatever saying these things. Uhhh ok.
Worse! Go read Second Smartest Person on Substack. From the The last few days. It's a great Big Lie. Lays it all out. Easy to find out for anyone who desires!! Big Entrance to NWO!! The' Does ItAll App'.
I have read 2SGitW's articles/links and added that to the mix. I believe how EM handles Twitter will make his true leanings apparent before too long...
Why would the Democrats doubt that their narratives, notwithstanding that they are based on mountains of lies, will continue to be treated as legitimate positions? They told us that Hillary Clinton’s emails were investigated and that no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against her, even though no one was subpoenaed or questioned under oath. They told us that Trump colluded with Russians to hack Hillary’s campaign and interfere in the 2016 election. They told us Trump sought foreign interference in the 2020 election based on a phone call, which was disclosed by a “whistleblower,” as opposed to partisan anti-Trump foreign policy officials. They told us that the 2020 election was clean even though there was chaos at vote counting centers on election night, the vote count was suspended, and days later, Biden had overcome sizable deficits. They told that Trump’s home had to be raided by armed FBI agents because the National Archives believes he is holding presidential records which should have been turned over to them. And, most egregious of all, they have told us that they have the right to round up ordinary citizens who attended a lawful rally on J6 that was provoked into a riot. The so-called investigation is a transparent attempt to obscure what really happened and to sideline political opponents. These lies, and others regarding Ukraine. Covid, immigration, race, and gender issues, have been given credence for over five years. The midterms hopefully will be a smashing repudiation of how the Democrats have governed. Following the election, we need a repudiation of the lies.
We do need repudiation, but will it happen? All I know is that any spineless, sniveling RINO who doesn’t feel that same need, should be run out of office, post haste.
The new Republican Congress should be very different. Regardless, Republican voters need to make very clear that we will not accept a Republican Congress that doesn’t stand up for their voters and our priorities. They need to hear from us.
Hilary posted fake news on Twitter about the Pelosi incident and Elon fact checked her! Seems the Santa Monica Observer has the real story! Pelosi is well know in his SF neighborhood to be gay. When he was arrested earlier this year for drunk driving he had a young man in the car with him then too. That was buried by the press!
Just make sure the 'spicy' is a bit malign and a bit creative and all will be well.
OK, things in at least a part of Canada are definitely getting better. A new party leader was elected by Alberta's UCP, Danielle Smith, which makes her premier as well. So far, she seems to be the wild cat of wild rose country: she's already apologized to the unvaxxed for the discrimination we've faced, she's vowed to 'make Alberta oil great again', after a very recent court case decided that because of 5 children, ALL Alberta school children k-12 had to mask up again, Smith passed legislation to make it illegal to mandate masks. She also seems to have a realistic understanding of the Ukraine/Russia conflict. It's been reported that she traveled the province and actually spoke to people to hear their views and seems to be supported by clued in grass roots new party members.
Two years ago I thought it couldn't keep going. We're almost 3 years into the "pandemic" and all the "cracks in the dam" don't even match what's in my driveway.
Everything since 2008 was a lie. I don't know how Trump got elected, but it stirred the lie machine to unimaginable levels.
Have folks had enough of it? In a rational world, sure. But it's a spiritual problem, a death cult. And it isn't going to slow down.
Tea Party -> MAGA. The minions are becoming restless and stirring in their now realized plight. Some simply tired of bending over and saying "please more".
She must have thought it important to exaggerate so grossly.
That's because she thinks it is important to her defense of her own record.
And, this is because she knows that parents will hold her to account for that record.
So she thinks it is important to exaggerate to defend her poor record because she knows that parents can tell the difference between "just 3 months" and more than 2 1/2 years.
Elon responded to serial liar HRC with the real story about pelosi, legend.
“We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.”
We don't know if what he linked to is the real story. But we do know he couldn't be suspended for saying there might be a little more to what's been reported than we've been told.
Musk took fuck-you money to its ultimate iteration.
All people are complicated. He's one of those uniquely-wired types who defy all categorization.
He's got serious work ethic and, I'd suspect, great instincts.
He's also made those billions off of stuff I myself despise. Keep out of space and fuck them EVs and don't partner with the CCP, one o' my trusty mottoes. Don't spread your seed widely, another one. Don't up the chances of engendering batshit-crazy progeny, a third.
But if he's the catalyst through which free speech flows, I ain't gonna hate that.
I've been to the Gaslamp District in San Diego - it's very nice - but have never visited SF. Is where the Pelosis live called the Gaslight District?
I had no idea that this is what happened, I don't use twitter so it took a bit to find the details. Wow.
I never did see the tweet (I also don't twitter). I went thru pages on a search engine and the only thing I found was how he was a conspiracy theorist. I searched his tweets as best I could without an account. Nothing. I have an IDEA of what he said... the obvious things, but not the actual thing. They won't let people see for themselves without running the disinfo gauntlet.
When I searched, I came across a British paper that explained the entire story. Here's what I found just now:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11370729/Elon-Musk-shares-tweet-suggesting-Paul-Pelosis-attacker-GAY-PROSTITUTE.html
Whether the original story was true or not, interesting questions are indeed raised, best one (in my mind) 'in the middle of the night, how did a gay, homeless, drug addict wearing only underwear make his way to the Pelosi home, get past security and cameras, I'm sure they have them, and get into the house, did he walk?, drive?, use public transit?. How was he even able to find it?
This includes an image of his tweet:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-did-paul-pelosi-call-attacker-friend-911-call
It will be interesting to hear what happens when the man gets to court. I'm not betting there will be much truth.
It is interesting that Pelosi is not cooperating with the investigation. He is not handing over the videos from the cameras surrounding and (perhaps) from within the home.
Where is the police body cam footage? Let the light shine on all the facts.
Me thinks the story Musk linked to may have had some truth to it. And just imagine, if the Dems had let this slide and not made such a huge commotion about 'right wing nuts', it would have all stayed quiet. That's Karma!
Here's another interesting link:
https://www.westernjournal.com/elon-musk-sets-record-straight-hillary-uses-twitter-blame-pelosi-attack-republicans/
And the NYT then tweeted that Musk tweeted out a link to fake news or something like that and Musk tweeted back that the NYT is incorrect, he did not link to the NYT.
Things may go south at Twitter, but for now Musk provides endless entertainment.
I'n not sure if the story can be true until some time elapses. In today's world it seems convergence now requires time.
The quote is from Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn, referring to the bolshevik regime. (Probably gets rarely attributed because nobody can remember the spelling of his last name.)
And now he's deleted his tweet.
The way we win is at least partially by being accurate in everything we say--including, if necessary, saying we don't have enough info yet to draw an accurate conclusion.
It's quite possible that Musk knew it was accurate, he just doesn't have a good source for proof. I only say that because Musk doesn't come across as someone who flies by the seat of his pants.
I think in many ways he's a very impulsive person whose technical brilliance has allowed him to be remarkably successful.
His cash-cow projects are all due to government intervention.
I'm not being judgemental about that - there are no ways to score big without playing the big government game nowadays.
Tesla? Subsidized by government (YOUR TAXES).
SpaceX? Subsidized by government (YOUR TAXES).
I like him for pushing back, where he can. Godspeed Elon, you're the least bad of the lot.
I don't know... it seems quite probable that a far left Castro nudist with a BLM sign in his front yard found in his underwear in Pelosi's house was in fact a right-wing Trump supporter.
Everyone knows SF is MAGA country
Ever since they were kicked out of Smollet's Chicago district anyway.
🙌🏼😂
I’ve seen actual (purported to be) news “stories” calling him a Trumper and saying how dangerous these Trumpers are. They are coming to kill us all
What I find ironic is that the people that say trumpers are all fascists are disproving this very assertion by the fact that they can say that. No self respecting fascist would allow people to speak freely about fascism, or anything else they disagree with.
Right?!?! 😂. At the same time they say all Trumpers must be silenced at all cost! (And then actually having government operatives do just that). Who are the fascists again?
Biden: Anyone who fails to vote for me is a threat to democracy.
My parents: Yes,that is a good point.
Me: You seriously dont see the hypocrisy in what he said?
My.parents: You are clearly a Trump supporter and you need to be silenced in order to protect the Bill of Rights.
Me: *facepalm*
Curious... what is a 'Trumper' ? A definition please ?
Yes. The most powerful person in the world said it so it must be true. ; /
They can try, but they won’t like the outcome.
😂😂😂😂 Comment of the day!
Well, you can’t give away your true intent.
>>bloomberg goes “full smollet” to “jussify” their political slant
touche' my deliciously bad kitteh, we send many purrs your way
I thought " jussify" was purrrhaps the best "new word" I'd ever seen.
It all reeks of desperation. The lies come so quick and are so divorced from what anyone with eyes not blinded by ideology can see, only the blind can believe it.
Shine the light!
The media and the Dems know most people only read headlines and forget about the story within a day. They think all they have to do is lie just enough to get most people to look past it.
They believe the blowback from the lie is never as great as the effect of the lie, which is too often true. Most Dems still believe everything about Russiagate without questions, as absolute fact. Most of them still believe the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian propaganda.
Sadly, that is true. They continue to get away with outright lying, because eventually the truth comes out but they know people have already moved on. The original lie is a front page headline and the correction a week later is hidden on the back page.
I can’t quite figure out if those punishing days of lock downs and FEAR have been forgotten, or people just want to move on and are choosing to remember it differently--like it was a bad party they attended and managed to grin and bear their way through it.
I have not, and will not, forget. The shear level of bullshit pushed with such conviction and hubris is making my blood pressure rise as I write.
You’re exactly right; all the blatant lies and fairytales were the most pernicious part--these charlatans lying to all of us and mandating behavior because they were so superior in intellect to the ignorant and child-like proletariat. We (the proletariat) could not possibly think and decide for ourselves.
What a dark, dark time in our history.
That "law enforcement" went along with blatantly unconstitutional power grabs and egregious violations of basic human rights is another thing I shall never forget -- or forgive. Remember, scum like the "Wretch-mer" have only as much power as the uniformed paid enforcers give her. All who enforced disgraced themselves beyond repair and redemption in my book.
same can be said of the FBI, CIA and the rest of the thugs that used to be the country's premier law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
I get your point, but I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion.
What is different today is not really the amount of bullshit, it is that with tools like social media ans substack, we can see more of it. This can be depressing if we let it; but it can also be freeing, as in now that we know what they're up to, we can choose not to let them get away with it.
I think that's what Gato's point was with this post. It will not be easy, but would not even have been possible without the relative freedom of the internet communities and their ability to shed light on the cockroaches.
Perhaps it’s my lack of imagination, but I just don’t see any substantive change possible. I did not need social media (of which I’ve partaken of none) to let me know that Covid was the biggest scam in modern times. I am no sage, but I knew (and called) bullshit at the start.
And for all of the internet's and social media’s purported truth telling ability, it really did not do very much to quell the hysteria. As a matter of fact; I would say it brought an immediacy that stoked people into a frenzy.
I want what everyone who reads El Gato wants: some accountability for this EPIC pfraud, a dismantling of these giant, unaccountable Fed agencies, and, most of all, NEVER again to have a repeat of the suspension of our liberties—by anyone, for any reason. Ever.
That was my point prior: all of the lies exposed and narrative unraveling has not opened as many people’s eyes as I had hoped. I just don’t know what it’s going to take.
When your choices are Schumer or Zeldin, what change can you really expect. I’ll never vote for a Dem. again, but so then I get to vote for the party that brought me the Iraq war? And really, both parties showed a cowardice these last three years that makes me detest them all.
So, to be clear, I’m not looking to vote my way to a better country, nor am I hopeful that some billionaire will uphold the constitution when our judiciary has decided to sit out most of the last three years.
All of that said, I feel really hopefully because I’ve found this community. Give me a task to help bring about more individual liberty (aside from living it myself) and I will get it done.
I believe that 'what it's going to take' is what Burning Bright, another substack writer, calls a 'Scare Event.' Brandon's mumblings about a 'nuclear Armageddon' are a start. The 101st Airborne 3 miles from Ukraine, ready to fight the Russians directly, might contribute. Failure of some of the world's main financial institutions likely also a part.
Regarding the Iraq war, that is not really the fault of the parties, it's the fault of the NWO/WEF droids (the Bushes are there, so are the Clintons and Obama and Brandon, and Lindsey Graham -- so both Dems and GOP well represented).
There are some fresh faces and folks of courage stepping up this go-round. But I agree with you, voting alone will not solve the problem -- when it has been part of the problem.
That 'immediacy stoking people to a frenzy' cuts both ways. Let's hope that as the Scare Event materializes, we'll see more and more Normies getting red-pilled. You are right, so far there aren't enough and many people are trying to go on as if nothing is happening. That won't be possible at some point. Then, and only then, will major changes be possible.
How did David LePape (whose behavior was criminal and horrific) get from Berkley to the elite neighborhood on the Pacific side of San Francisco in the middle of the night in his underwear? (Maybe a 40 minute drive by car) He also had to find Nancy's house. Did he get a ride from his X wife and mother of two of his kids. I think he lived in the van but was it operable or was it just on blocks as so many of them are. He was a dealer in this weird drug that was discovered among the Pygmies of central Africa but now is grown in Mexico. It's a psychedelic, sort of. Was it a drug deal gone very bad? I hear a third person opened the door. So, like so many events this one will remain in conspiratorial territory. I think the take away for those of us in California is that we need criminal laws that carry consequences, and the homeless are not harmless.
One thing that's clear to me, is we will likely learn just about as much regarding the truth of this incident as we have about the truth of the Mandalay Bay mass shooting.
Or who leaked the SCOTUS decision, or put the pipe bomb outside the DNC building in DC.
And, the big one, Epstein. I’m guessing this guy will get the same reward.
I am waiting for an explanation on how a scrawny crazed drug addled nudist got past Pelosi's security. And why is no one asking that?
You don't really want me to tell you what the story is, do you? Its quite graphic.
He was an invited guest of course.
We the People are asking, it’s just not a concern of the media. I’ve got better security than what apparently is at the Pelosi home and I’m not a multi-millionaire or a public official and I don’t live in a crime-ridden city. It’s very peculiar.
I know right the husband of the third most powerful person in the US and this guy just lets himself in and beats Paulie with hammer before anyone else gets there.
and 82 year old Paulie will be fine?! I would have expected a hammer to be more much more dangerous
He’s a “friend” according to the 911 dispatcher who took the call. I smell pizza 🍕.
Real Breaking News as Seen on FB today: "Lasers were once a huge Scientific Breakthrough; Now we use them to play with cats........Computers were once a huge Scientific Breakthrough; now we use them to look at cats.....Conclusion: Science was made for Cats."
I fear that we may be counting our chickens before they hatch. Musk seems to be very good at playing/trolling both sides. The recent announcement of creating a Content Moderation Council is a prime example of pretending to change things, but not really changing anything:
Elon Musk says he's creating a 'content moderation council' for Twitter after Kanye West's account was reinstated
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-says-hes-creating-twitter-content-moderation-council-2022
There is bound to be some form of content moderation. Sadly, we can't allow everything. Things like death threats, child porn, content that encourages illegal activity. These are the things that need moderation.
Agree. Those are the things that should be banned. Not speech. If you don’t like what someone is saying (bc it’s hateful to you or others, or hurts your feelings) DON’T READ IT. Block that person. Don’t read twatter. Or comments anywhere. Stay in your little corner. But maybe, if most people can discourse you MIGHT see something that isn’t just your little echo chamber and make you think. Maybe. We can always hope.
Those forms of speech are already illegal. Originally, Elon stated that Twitter should permit anything that is not unlawful. After a few hours in charge, he decided to form committees to discuss it further.
I saw that someone said that those who have been banned should be on the committee. Made me smile with approval. Having more than your own thoughts on such an important topic seems like a wise decision. Who is on the committee... that will be the thing. Ultimately, he will decide.
It also sounds like he might be looking for a way to "rate" content. not explicitly ban it, but to make it more tuned to different audiences. Hard to imagine such a thing can exist in a world where porn is not that difficult to find.
That being said, I don't like the idea of different twitter designations like black twitter, alt right twitter, etc.
Kind of like assigning a social credit rating to tweets and allowing tweeters to self-identify/segregate on that basis? Smart!
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Someone mentioned that if he allows criticism of him and his companies than that is a good sign he's operating in good faith.
Your previous post about his post was a mistake by him, in regards to that end.
True. Those are examples of legally bound moderation. Why do you need a "diverse" Content Moderation Council to take care of the latter, unless you are also planning to go beyond those parameters?
It sounds to me like he is creating something for a grey area. I could be wrong, but it could be this moderation council has to be in complete agreement or the information will not be moderated. I could be wrong, won't be the first time.
Moderation is fine until they start moderating something in a way that you disagree with.
Back in the QAnon days, when I was still a liberal, I didn't see anything wrong with accusations of disinformation and subsequent deplatforming (although I was sorry to see Trump leave Twitter because he was so entertaining).
Fast forward to the Covid panic, where it was obvious to me that the people in charge had their heads up their butts in terms of science.
Consequently, because censorship requires someone to determine what's true in a world where there's a lot of gray area, I'm now completely anti-censorship except in already illegal cases—child pornography, specific incitements to violence, doxxing and harassment, and the kinds of speech the First Amendment doesn’t allow online or off.
Somehow, believing a billionaire will be altruistic and selfless seems like kind of a stretch.
You assume this billionaire understands his billions. Autism creates some strange artifacts in intensity. Musk has a rather odd sense of humor and might be confused by our discomfort. Not even sure he ever wanted to actually own Twitter but wanted change. Who knows what might be next.
His stated position seems to be that he's doing it because it's the right thing to do, but also he thinks it can be commercially profitable. Doing well by doing good, so to speak.
Well to be contrarian he does have skin in the game.
I know if I did; I'd expect to make a profit.
But, as you point out; we'll see if he let's profit undermine principles.
In theory, he wouldn't have to. Running a profitable social media enterprise shouldn't require censorship.
But not impossible.
This is my thought. Elites are gonna elite. I don't see them as being champions for anything but their own power and money.
David Icke joined Twitter, posted a meme critical of Musk, and was immediately banned. So, yeah. Rumors of the bird's freedom may have been exaggerated.
https://dystopianliving.substack.com/p/elon-musk-savior-or-deceiver
I just briefly looked at Musk's twitter and he stated clearly that no changes have yet been made tot he moderation algo's, no one's been reinstated etc.
I remain neutral on Musk...wait and see.
Yup ~ I'm firmly "on the fence".
I believe Musk is a graduate of the WEF’s Young Global Leader club. 🤷🏻♀️
He shouldn't be cast as either and certainly not make any declarations immediately. I'd let things play out and see how he does. But one thing everyone should know - he is not a savior. We should simply enjoy that the people who want to suppress truth and free exchange of ideas are crazyoutoftheirminds MAD.
Great article!
Well one can only hope they shut down all the left wing trolls out there shouting the “N” word (because words are bad, hurtful, evil or something) because they “can” and they are trying to “show us all” how the “hate speech” will ruin twatter. And then claiming (earnestly and as if they MEAN IT) that it’s all the Trumpers, or evil Republicans, or MAGA or whatever saying these things. Uhhh ok.
Worse! Go read Second Smartest Person on Substack. From the The last few days. It's a great Big Lie. Lays it all out. Easy to find out for anyone who desires!! Big Entrance to NWO!! The' Does ItAll App'.
I have read 2SGitW's articles/links and added that to the mix. I believe how EM handles Twitter will make his true leanings apparent before too long...
Probably already set to go!!
Same. In fact, I link to 2SG's articles in my post.
Why would the Democrats doubt that their narratives, notwithstanding that they are based on mountains of lies, will continue to be treated as legitimate positions? They told us that Hillary Clinton’s emails were investigated and that no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against her, even though no one was subpoenaed or questioned under oath. They told us that Trump colluded with Russians to hack Hillary’s campaign and interfere in the 2016 election. They told us Trump sought foreign interference in the 2020 election based on a phone call, which was disclosed by a “whistleblower,” as opposed to partisan anti-Trump foreign policy officials. They told us that the 2020 election was clean even though there was chaos at vote counting centers on election night, the vote count was suspended, and days later, Biden had overcome sizable deficits. They told that Trump’s home had to be raided by armed FBI agents because the National Archives believes he is holding presidential records which should have been turned over to them. And, most egregious of all, they have told us that they have the right to round up ordinary citizens who attended a lawful rally on J6 that was provoked into a riot. The so-called investigation is a transparent attempt to obscure what really happened and to sideline political opponents. These lies, and others regarding Ukraine. Covid, immigration, race, and gender issues, have been given credence for over five years. The midterms hopefully will be a smashing repudiation of how the Democrats have governed. Following the election, we need a repudiation of the lies.
We do need repudiation, but will it happen? All I know is that any spineless, sniveling RINO who doesn’t feel that same need, should be run out of office, post haste.
The new Republican Congress should be very different. Regardless, Republican voters need to make very clear that we will not accept a Republican Congress that doesn’t stand up for their voters and our priorities. They need to hear from us.
The speaker of the House, THIRD in line for the Presidency has shit for security at her residence?
Yeah, nope.
Paul and this dude were doin’ the nasty, and had a lovah’s quarrel.
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12:35 PM • 10/29/22 • Twitter Web
Oh good. I don't have to spell it out.
And the hammer?
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Hahahhaha! Excellent
All lies are a form of theft. No one who steals from you cares about you.
I have told quite a few lies that, while I tried to say it in the least lying way, were necessary lies. I am of the do no harm to the innocent camp.
Hilary posted fake news on Twitter about the Pelosi incident and Elon fact checked her! Seems the Santa Monica Observer has the real story! Pelosi is well know in his SF neighborhood to be gay. When he was arrested earlier this year for drunk driving he had a young man in the car with him then too. That was buried by the press!
We await the truth. We now are more aware that truth takes time.
And if the truth is inconvenient enough, that time may well be forever.
Just make sure the 'spicy' is a bit malign and a bit creative and all will be well.
OK, things in at least a part of Canada are definitely getting better. A new party leader was elected by Alberta's UCP, Danielle Smith, which makes her premier as well. So far, she seems to be the wild cat of wild rose country: she's already apologized to the unvaxxed for the discrimination we've faced, she's vowed to 'make Alberta oil great again', after a very recent court case decided that because of 5 children, ALL Alberta school children k-12 had to mask up again, Smith passed legislation to make it illegal to mandate masks. She also seems to have a realistic understanding of the Ukraine/Russia conflict. It's been reported that she traveled the province and actually spoke to people to hear their views and seems to be supported by clued in grass roots new party members.
I hope her influence spreads far and wide.
And I hope the new party members stay engaged.
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.
Two years ago I thought it couldn't keep going. We're almost 3 years into the "pandemic" and all the "cracks in the dam" don't even match what's in my driveway.
Everything since 2008 was a lie. I don't know how Trump got elected, but it stirred the lie machine to unimaginable levels.
Have folks had enough of it? In a rational world, sure. But it's a spiritual problem, a death cult. And it isn't going to slow down.
I think it goes back a lot farther than 2008, like a century or two.
Tea Party -> MAGA. The minions are becoming restless and stirring in their now realized plight. Some simply tired of bending over and saying "please more".
Whitemore: 3 months.
Actuality: 957 days or 31.0 months.
She was off by x10.
She must have thought it important to exaggerate so grossly.
That's because she thinks it is important to her defense of her own record.
And, this is because she knows that parents will hold her to account for that record.
So she thinks it is important to exaggerate to defend her poor record because she knows that parents can tell the difference between "just 3 months" and more than 2 1/2 years.
To her, it only seemed like 3 months. Because, you know: time flies when you’re having fun.
This may be another use for the proposed new SI unit, the "Ferguson." (An order of magnitude error in simulation when compared to reality.)
I was trying to construct an equivalence between the "Pinocchio" scale for public lying and the SI unit, but with this I can just use the Ferguson.
So, one Ferguson means off by a factor of 10; two Fergusons, a factor of 100 and so on?
Interesting concept. As in, 'Hey, he was only two Fergusons off you know. Give him a break!'
They magnified the Covid case and death count. Not a surprise they shrunk the days of enforced home-schooling.