I agree that the numbers aren't terrible. This is just an analysis of the data set, which is a subset of the population. Delta is the dominant variant in the UK, so it probably represents reality on a population level.
I'm concerned that the unvaxxed <50 CFR is ticking up; but, yes, it is still pretty low. And we don't have co-morbid…
I agree that the numbers aren't terrible. This is just an analysis of the data set, which is a subset of the population. Delta is the dominant variant in the UK, so it probably represents reality on a population level.
I'm concerned that the unvaxxed <50 CFR is ticking up; but, yes, it is still pretty low. And we don't have co-morbidity, COD, or PCR cutoff data for anyone.
The CFR for the unvaxxed 50+ is high and seems to be trending up (despite the bouncing). This is a very small group of people. We can't assume they're anti-vax ne'er-do-wells. They may have health issues that prevented them from taking a vaxx, which has implications for their risk from the virus. I've always wondered if PHE controlled the denominator at the front end...only submitting a small number of samples from this cohort for genomic testing. While most of the population is vaxxed, the 50+ unvaxxed cohort is still a lot of people. Why would the most vulnerable group (50+ and unvaxxed) have the lowest number of infections? It doesn't make sense.
Unvaxxed Covid deaths may in fact be the recently vaccinated, but vaccine-injured. There seems to be at least a possible handful of these, judging from the jump in deaths for teens - https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/30/deaths-among-teenagers-have-increased-by-47-percent-since-covid-vaccination-began/ . This doesn't take into account the fact that England didn't have a summer wave last year, but still, it's a potential signal. The same signal seems to appear after the double-dosed were declared "partially vaccinated" in Israel - a steady churn of deaths in the older cohort as the boosters were rolled out. Could just-dosed vaccine-induced deaths coincidentally preceded by a positive test account for the uptick in the overall CFR? We probably will never know.
I agree with you that some C19 deaths are actually C19 vaxx deaths. Since the LNPs can and do travel all over the body and can persist in the tissues for an unknown time, the PCR tests could be detecting vaxx mRNA and the antigen tests could be detecting vaxx spike. This may explain the time compression in case, hospitalization, and death curves compared to 2020.
The "SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England/Technical briefings" break out data into five categories (Unvaxxed, Unlinked, <21 days post dose 1, ≥21 days post dose 1, ≥14 days post dose 2).
The deaths that Israel classified as "unvaccinated" (<14 days post dose 2) PHE would classify as partially vaxxed. I only compared unvaxxed to fully vaxxed.
While PHE provides better and more timely data than CDC (last year's data next year), there' still so much we don't know. Did these people...any of these people die from C19 or with C19...or did they die from something else entirely? We have no idea. How soon after vaxx did they become ill? How many co-morbidities? How high was the PCR cutoff? Which nucleotides were they amplifying and how many (1, 2, or 3)?
The CDC has updated the following page for months. Yes, some of the co-morbid conditions may be related to the viral infection. I still don't understand why injecting someone 2+ times with billions of copies of the instructions to make billions of copies of the spike...the very protein that makes this virus dangerous...that causes some of those co-morbid CODs...makes any sense.
"For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death."
Ah - as ever, I am a shade off in my familiarity with the UK's charts. Israel, for their part, now (and retroactively) display anything post 1 dose to 3rd dose days 1-6 as "partially vaccinated."
mRNA doesn't even make sense from a perspective of generating functional adaptive immunity. Hence, why infection efficacy whiffed. But at least most people aren't getting 6x-dosed in one sitting. Emphasis on "most" https://openvaers.com/covid-data/covid-reports/1752999
I agree that the numbers aren't terrible. This is just an analysis of the data set, which is a subset of the population. Delta is the dominant variant in the UK, so it probably represents reality on a population level.
I'm concerned that the unvaxxed <50 CFR is ticking up; but, yes, it is still pretty low. And we don't have co-morbidity, COD, or PCR cutoff data for anyone.
The CFR for the unvaxxed 50+ is high and seems to be trending up (despite the bouncing). This is a very small group of people. We can't assume they're anti-vax ne'er-do-wells. They may have health issues that prevented them from taking a vaxx, which has implications for their risk from the virus. I've always wondered if PHE controlled the denominator at the front end...only submitting a small number of samples from this cohort for genomic testing. While most of the population is vaxxed, the 50+ unvaxxed cohort is still a lot of people. Why would the most vulnerable group (50+ and unvaxxed) have the lowest number of infections? It doesn't make sense.
Unvaxxed Covid deaths may in fact be the recently vaccinated, but vaccine-injured. There seems to be at least a possible handful of these, judging from the jump in deaths for teens - https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/30/deaths-among-teenagers-have-increased-by-47-percent-since-covid-vaccination-began/ . This doesn't take into account the fact that England didn't have a summer wave last year, but still, it's a potential signal. The same signal seems to appear after the double-dosed were declared "partially vaccinated" in Israel - a steady churn of deaths in the older cohort as the boosters were rolled out. Could just-dosed vaccine-induced deaths coincidentally preceded by a positive test account for the uptick in the overall CFR? We probably will never know.
I agree with you that some C19 deaths are actually C19 vaxx deaths. Since the LNPs can and do travel all over the body and can persist in the tissues for an unknown time, the PCR tests could be detecting vaxx mRNA and the antigen tests could be detecting vaxx spike. This may explain the time compression in case, hospitalization, and death curves compared to 2020.
The "SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England/Technical briefings" break out data into five categories (Unvaxxed, Unlinked, <21 days post dose 1, ≥21 days post dose 1, ≥14 days post dose 2).
The deaths that Israel classified as "unvaccinated" (<14 days post dose 2) PHE would classify as partially vaxxed. I only compared unvaxxed to fully vaxxed.
While PHE provides better and more timely data than CDC (last year's data next year), there' still so much we don't know. Did these people...any of these people die from C19 or with C19...or did they die from something else entirely? We have no idea. How soon after vaxx did they become ill? How many co-morbidities? How high was the PCR cutoff? Which nucleotides were they amplifying and how many (1, 2, or 3)?
The CDC has updated the following page for months. Yes, some of the co-morbid conditions may be related to the viral infection. I still don't understand why injecting someone 2+ times with billions of copies of the instructions to make billions of copies of the spike...the very protein that makes this virus dangerous...that causes some of those co-morbid CODs...makes any sense.
"For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death."
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR0nz36pTfb8BZPwtxJ49-s8lHV7lQ1eQSmk0r06QueL6Eem4pWSzJz9Ouc#Comorbidities
Ah - as ever, I am a shade off in my familiarity with the UK's charts. Israel, for their part, now (and retroactively) display anything post 1 dose to 3rd dose days 1-6 as "partially vaccinated."
mRNA doesn't even make sense from a perspective of generating functional adaptive immunity. Hence, why infection efficacy whiffed. But at least most people aren't getting 6x-dosed in one sitting. Emphasis on "most" https://openvaers.com/covid-data/covid-reports/1752999