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Mellis's avatar

So, just to be clear, the cure being mandated - MANDATED under threat of loss of livelihood, participation in society, access to education, etc. - for an illness that apparently has a survival rate greater than 99.8% for the vast majority of the populace, actually makes things worse AND has serious known and unknown side effects for many?! And the mandates keep getting worse in many places here and around the world - think Novak Djokovic and now France’s latest abomination. What sort of alternate universe is this? They’re not just crop dusters, they are arsonists masquerading as the fire department. “You are not allowed to use that old firehouse on your burning home in which your family is trapped. Here, you must only use this fancy new fire extinguisher filled with napalm.”

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Mara's avatar

I hate to get into "conspiracy theory" territory, but it is hard to avoid thinking "genocide" as these facts come to light...

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John Bowman's avatar

In my view, not a conspiracy in the sense of central planning and control, but a confluence of the like-minded based on common factors and circumstances: plus an element of monkey see, monkey do I suppose.

An increasingly costly ageing population.

I think it is euthanasia by neglect. The problem is the elderly were all supposed to die between the ages of 65 and 70 upon which assumption State Social Security/healthcare provision was predicated. In addition, providing universal healthcare was supposed to be preventative, ensuring a healthier population requiring increasingly less intervention. Taking the two propositions together, the calculation was that increase in the ongoing cost in real terms would be no greater than inflation.

For a variety of reasons - better nutrition, less arduous jobs, more leisure time, better hygiene, advances in medical science - the result is people are living much longer to draw pensions and undergo more and more expensive medical treatment and require expensive end of life care.

It is a politically created problem, because whereas the elderly pre-WWII understood they had to provide for their old age, politicians promising them State ‘cradle to the grave’ welfare removed the expectation from people that they needed to be responsible for themselves: the State would provide. Now it doesn’t want to/cannot fulfil its promise.

Even the US which does not have a formal welfare State has an ever creeping one in effect.

So there is an incentive to allow elderly people to die sooner rather than later, and an unwillingness to care and to direct the proper resources. I worked in hospital service in the 1970s for 5 years and I know medical & nursing staff openly welcomed Winter and ‘flu to clear out the bed-blockers in geriatric and psychiatric wards.

The current ‘protecting the elderly’ is great political theatre. Most of those who succumb to CoVid (median age 84) have less than 12 months left on the clock. Many will die despite vaccination from the medical conditions they already have, other opportunistic infection or because they just give up. So no vaccination will nit ‘save lives’.

And if I were cynical, the ‘experts’ (medical staff certainly) will know vaccination weakens the immune system and is likely to finish off the most susceptible. But I wouldn’t want anyone to think I were cynical.

I think the question with respect to CoVid and the treatment of the elderly is, benign or malign neglect?

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

This explanation is all very well, but it doesn’t account for scores of countries discarding their time honoured pandemic preparedness plans (if you’re unwell, stay home; wash your more often because we don’t know transmission route at first) and replacement with nothing but preposterous lies.

It also doesn’t account for all institutions relating to “healthcare” going rogue all at the same time. Regulators giving EUAs to obvious toxins (several of us warned publicly & specifically before & soon after EUA), Royal Colleges of Obs & Gyn lying on national TV & radio that these agents were perfectly safe in pregnancy, and so on.

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John Bowman's avatar

I was commenting on treatment of the elderly not the whole panicdemic. I agree the latter is clearly orchestrated via the global nexus of interdependent, intersecting vested interests and movers and shakers that has been assembled over the last 30 years thanks to the other panicdemic, climate change.

Whilst each of these ‘interests’ may have different end-aims, they are united in one, establishing a global Government. The CoVid episode has given them an opportunity to carry out a full dress rehearsal for that… climate change was making slow progress as it’s hard to panic the herd with a 0.8C temperature increase over a century and future calamity which will happen after we now are dead.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Yes, one world government would suit those elevated criminals well.

Let’s hope they’re elevated instead by ropes.

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John Bowman's avatar

The European Health Agency has warned repeat boosting can cause Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. Any thoughts on that?

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Not really. They’re so corrupt that whatever they say, I ignore it.

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John Bowman's avatar

I prefer ‘Global Cabal of Evil’.

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TDoug's avatar

Indeed, when all the evidence points to deliberate actions that kill people it can not be a mistake. Resist or die. They will keep on recommending boosters till everybody refuses. The real definition of fully vaccinated is death.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

You’d have to be a gullible coincidence theorist to deny it!

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CNNisFakeNews's avatar

Only a conspiracy theorist would believe that rich powerful elites won’t conspire together to gain and maintain their power.

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Peter Defty's avatar

If only it were that easy to explain the reason behind this.....my vote goes to Hubris, which only leads us down a path of incompetence and stupidity. Our Hubris with Gain of Function, gene sequencing for rapid development of mRNA therapies, masks, lockdown, mandates, silencing of any discussion or opposition and "The Science".....all while Rome burns.

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Me's avatar

Still, the kill rate is low. Either they are really bad at it, or there's much worse to come.

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JP Freeman's avatar

Just heard Dr. Chris Martenson discuss how doctors don’t want to EVER report deaths to VAERS because they’ll pay for it professionally. https://youtu.be/VVxmAIKjYM4 (Not just about NZ)

A Harvard/HHS study showed adverse events are woefully underreported to VAERS.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Ah, I wouldn’t call potentially 388,000 in America alone a low kill rate—likely even higher given the life insurance companies are reporting a 40% increase in mortality in the 18–64 age group (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-governing-body).

That said, I do believe they’re titrating so it is easier to cover up and will be ramping up the more desperate they get to complete their mission before people catch on (much like when Hitler hit ramming speed on the Final Solution toward the end of the war).

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Me's avatar

Yeah, but I mean to get to 500M left, they need a 94% kill rate. They haven't even got to 1% yet. So either they are cheese weenies, or they have something even more horrible up their sleeve.

If you try to kill a hornets nest, and you miss, you are in trouble.

I suppose if you try to kill 7.5 billion people, but you only get 1 million, the remaining 7.499 billion people might eventually get pretty pissed off. Let's hope one day these clowns wake up with 7 billion angry people in their front yard.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Haha, good points. I don’t know how set they are on the 500 million, but my guess is they are waiting to lure people into the traps (concentration camps) before starting full production. In New Zealand, for example, one of the new camps was built near a rendering plant 🤔

I like your ending scene better ✊

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Robyn S's avatar

The problem is that we are humans, not hornets. Humans just take WAY too much crap lying down whilst the hornets get pissed off as soon as the threat is identified!

Maybe we should've been hornets, not humans. Then we could at least have a life where we're true to ourselves.

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Robyn S's avatar

You've just got to know your bad batches before you have your jab, eh?

(too bad you need a time machine for this...)

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

There's worse to come, but also this is a very long term plan. They are shortening peoples lives by a few decades plus rendering some number of girls sterile (the spikes tend to build up in the ovaries) plus God only knows how many miscarriages caused by this.

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Eric M's avatar

A biostatistician named Christine Cotton addresses this topic in her analysis of VAERS data in this August 2021 presentation (in French, but slides in English consisting of annotated screenshots from VAERS (CDC website). If I remember correctly, she found serious adverse reactions in a third of pregnant women who received the experimental injections:

https://crowdbunker.com/v/YjmNzb0R

She begins to present the data on pregnancy issues a little after minute 25.

She is part of the Conseil Scientifique Indépendant (CSI), a group of French doctors, scientists, and statisticians who have been doing weekly discussions since April 2021 analyzing official data and dissecting the Covidian narrative.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Thank you. Too detailed to follow easily. But I’ve taken a couple of images of key slides.

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Eric M's avatar

Hello Dr Yeadon, and thanks for your efforts over the past couple years.

I would be happy to help with translation if you like.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Very kind. But my major limitation is time. I don’t have enough RAM, either 🤗

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kitten seeking answers's avatar

meow... on the analogy.

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MLL's avatar

My husband and I are CLEAR that this is a war. Period. Thus, our tactics reflect the fact that we are in SURVIVAL mode and if that means no college for another year, so be it. My kids will remain healthy and strong with natural immune systems capable of fighting all future viruses/germs, etc. We must keep on looking at this with a long-term perspective. LIFE and HEALTH comes above all else. We've also put all house projects on hold until the midterm elections in November in order to protect our savings in case we choose to move out of state (OR).

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Packy's avatar

Can anyone explain the virus 'preference' for vaccinated people.

If the vaxed + unvaxed are exposed to virus at same rates, what is happening?

Are unvaxed immune systems defeating the virus without that person actually catching it? How does that work.

Why wouldn't unvaxed still catch the virus and then defeat it faster than vaxed.

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Mara's avatar

We can only speculate (hypothesise!)

A person with a robust immune system will mostly be able to deal with respiratory viruses via secretory IgA antibodies in the mucosa, unless the viral load becomes too high. Perhaps with no symptoms. The jabs are known to deplete natural immunity - though I have not come across any studies about whether or not they affect the mucosal aspects of the immune system. So it is possible that this is a mechanism at play, with the case rates.

Additionally, once the virus gets a hold & starts reproducing, the specific antibodies to the old spike protein, generated by the jab, will (via OAS - Original Antigenic Sin) interfere with the ability to generate new antibodies to Omi (which has a somewhat different spike protein structure).

There are probably other mechanisms at play too, but these are good to start with.

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Peter Defty's avatar

Packy, Let's use the analogy of missile guidance technology shall we....if your missiles are programmed for a certain target their guidance is programmed for that target, say some old decommissioned missile site, so will absolutely miss the assault from the new upgraded missiles. Our immune gets 'primed' this way when vaccinated so it only looks for that threat whereas it is much more flexible and adaptable in an unvaccinated person and like defense missiles that are setup to intercept incoming from whatever and wherever venues they are being launched from. The more robust and healthy the person's immune system the quicker it can respond and defend itself when unvaccinated whereas the vaccinated have this built in bias to 'target' the known threat which in this case has moved on...........another way to put it is the vaccines not only have "Jumped the Shark" but they are the ski boat and ramp to facilitate it

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Billy No-Mates's avatar

The numbers above are of course about tests with positive results. So, the many people that get infected but don't get tested will not be detected. We can't rule out that the unvaccinated are getting infected at the same rate but aren't getting enough symptoms to go get tested.

There's also a kind of personal 'threshold' that the viral dose has to exceed to actually infect someone (start replicating within their body). Does being vaccinated make that threshold lower? I don't know.

I also wonder how the testing rates (when symptomatic) compare between the groups. Are those who refuse the vaccine also more likely to refuse the testing? I think so, but on the other hand, there are many policies that require the unvaccinated to get tested more often than the vaccinated. I don't think anyone knows whether this has a significant effect.

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Le Chat Noir's avatar

Well my friend thinks it’s because there are more restrictions on the vaxxed, and therefore they are mingling less and catching it less. I doubt this is the main contributor, but not sure how I prove it

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CNNisFakeNews's avatar

If that were true, that just further demonstrates the uselessness of vaccine mandates and vaccine passports.

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