It's amusing watching the narcissistic imperative to reimagine history to show oneself to have been correct all along, colliding with the awkward records demonstrating the opposite. This entire farce has been highly educational regarding the talents and characters of the people who imagine themselves an elite.
i wonder if it is more propagandistic impulse to shore up credibility and credential or flat out cognitive dissonance rendering such people entirely unable to imagine a past in which they were so wrong and therefore changing their actual memories of it in defense of their own towering self regard?
i'm sure both play a role, but i truly struggle to guess which dominates.
I too was having issues, suspect it was due the embedded video. Thank you for the link, it was a good reminder of the personality traits to avoid in life (if you can! Sometimes they’re unavoidable).
Interesting article. Notice how most of them attempt to make the other person feel guilty? I'm amazed how often this happens in families and is seen as acceptable or even normal behavior. People that love each other don't try and manipulate each other through guilt.
I'm going to have to think long and hard on this one.
In this context, by "propaganda," do you mean knowingly misleading self-promotion?
I'm trying to apply your proof here to the behavior of individual narcissists acting in self-interest.
But a challenging part of analyzing and treating narcissism is the cognitive dissonance, not conscious dishonesty. Narcissists self-dissemble first, because their logic proof doesn't allow for them to be "wrong."
I tend to think of propaganda as entirely cynical.
Some narcissists / psychopaths are consciously dishonest, especially if their orientation is predatory. Others are clueless all the way down - complete cognitive dissonance to and past the point of absurdity. They can't see themselves as wrong, and they're completely oblivious to how they're being, how much of a hypocrisy-cartoon they are.
They may both act the same in deflection / blame shifting / denial of reality / gaslighting. Some are more oriented towards "self preservation", and when they feel threatened or confronted with something they don't want to face, they flail around in pathetic defensiveness and projection. Either way it's maddening to witness.
It's a fracture / false self at the personality level, not amenable to treatment, (Besides the occasional "unicorn". Of course many have narcissistic qualities, but actual narcissists are only their false self, by nature they can't be genuinely empathic or self reflective. They will always, always, blameshift. If they apologize, it's a blameshift disguised as apology.)
That psych central article describes the communication really well.
So many similarities between personal abusive behaviors and what's happening in the big picture. One layer is authoritarian control - many narcissistic / psychopathic partners / employers are oppressively controlling and feel justified in being so.
But some narcissists aren't controlling at all, unless they're arguing. What they all have in common is they can't be genuinely self reflective / can't admit being wrong / can't authentically listen / don't want to listen. Blameshift / refuse collaboration or compromise / gaslight - sometimes not intending to break down anyone's reality, just feeling like they're defending themselves, but their view is so skewed they end up denying reality.
So many out there are decoding narcissistic communication, helping people in abusive relationships recognize what's happening. Dr Ramani and Dr Les Carter are knowledgeable and understand so many nuances of these difficult personalities and the havoc they wreak on others. But they don't connect how some of their own descriptions apply so exactly to what's happening to us all - from the gaslighting, history-re-writing lies of the media to the plans of the elites to tag, track, limit us while saying it's for our own good and using guilt - and future faking - to get compliance.
Maggie Russo's substack connects those dots ~ https://maggierusso.substack.com/ ( please subscribe / like. I don't know her, but I appreciate the important links she makes! )
Wow Ellen, this is an excellent nutshell analysis. As someone whose experience with a narcissist very likely primed me to see the big picture abuse, it’s really gratifying to see other people connect these dots. Thanks
Well, not all narcissists are unconscious of their condition and so they knowingly lie to maintain the facade of being "normal". These are the types that are usually considered sociopaths, if I'm not mistaken. There's a man on YouTube who posts under the name H.G. Tudor who is this type of narc. While he's entertaining on YouTube I do feel sorry for any of his close associates who have to deal with him on a daily basis.
But the type you're talking about is the most common that we encounter and so they are definitely the bigger problem.
I am not sure there is a treatment for someone labeled as a narcissist. They see absolutely no problem or issue. They are right and always tell the “truth”. But it is behavior to be aware of.
This is not proof. I think you are misunderstanding. I thought it was an interesting article. Not sure how you thought that I was claiming it’s proof of anything. I have no vested interest in this paper or POV.
Having observed narcissists in my personal life, I tend towards the latter explanation. If it was more consciously Machiavellian you'd think they'd at least delete the contradicting tweets first. Instead, they just forget they exist.
These people blatantly lie (often smiling as they do so) & are unrepentant & unashamed when their hypocracy is pointed out. Because they KNOW there will be no consequences, no retribution, no justice - at least not in this life
So CA’s Governor (Newsom) just got his 4th booster even though he was vaccine-injured by the 3rd (GB). And he got Covid 10 days later. This is what we’re up against in CA!
I totally agree. You talk about making them eat crow. Let them wallow in their self-pity after they figure out they've been poisoning themselves. Let's see how self righteous they are then.
Problem with this is most will never allow themselves to see what they have done. Have a cousin with acute leukemie after her booster. If she admitted a connection I think it would kill her before the cancer. So even trying to see the silver lining in her situation: maybe she’ll wake up! Is a complete non-starter. And so while I find her fate deserved to an extent, I tend to have a philosophy that we are all connected and what is bad for her will be bad for me and the rest of us. Thus the schadenfreude is tainted.
I think you are right in this case. I do agree with Bandit that they'll always be self righteous. However they will have to live with being the last to "know". And the zealots will be exposed as frauds. I posted somewhere else that those are their two biggest fears in life.
They may not eat their humble pie publicly, but they will internally. That's a living hell for those types of people.
Some regular folks who got the first two shots are a bit more circumspect. Most of my friends and family did not take the booster and are now seeing that their initial decision was a mistake. That doesn't mean they want to talk about it though. BTW, three of them are experiencing Vax injuries. They told me that unsolicited.
The over-ardent zealots are a different story. They'll always be self righteous. But who cares we have the receipts. If nothing else they will have egg on their face and been exposed as automatons who can't think for themselves
oh ho! the vax injury vindication. in my dreams. or actually, nightmares. yes, some people deserve compassion and others deserve condescension. it's a case by case call.
Newsome is just another Shwab Jugend, trying very hard to keep the WEF 'Great Reset' on track by keeping the fear alive and the jackboot of government control on the throat of the governed. He'll never admit the vaccines did nothing.
That assclown just signed climate 'memorandum of cooperation' with Jacinda Ardern, another resetter. Probably has to cooperate with her as I'm sure his SHTF bunker is in New Zealand like the rest of the CA rich tech titans.
So far we are seeing evidence that far from "vaccines did nothing" suggesting vaccines can cause immune system vulnerabilities in some people (maybe all).
(another Fauci/Pfizer collaboration I believe) and ‘observing all the guidelines’ and ‘working remotely from home’ (or The French Laundry), which is pretty much how he has ‘governed’ Commifornia for over the past 27 months!
The only solution is we must bring all these people to trial and find, prove and affirm the TRUTH.
Grand jury exhibition A:
"I'm a Paramedic in the Greater Atlanta area. cardiac-related calls are overwhelmingly young males18-30years old. Typical early morning scene: We arrive at a suburban home, only to find the entire family in severe emotional duress.This is what we hear--"Save my Baby! Please!" Over and over we find these young men still in their beds, deceased. Most appear to be sudden cardiac deaths. We are obligated to ask "was he recently vaccinated" to which the reply is ALWAYS "Yes." I was an Army medic (68 Whiskey) yet I've never seen such carnage as we're currently experiencing. "
You are gonna be one busy cat if you post on all the jersey switchers.
I'll add that one a personal level let's not let all the people in your life forget who they have been these past two years. Supported lockdown, masking, jailing people, ostracism for wanting body autonomy? Call them out.
Been saying for awhile now: None of 'em ever left HS. I remember when my neighbor told me nobody liked the Beatles. She was pissed when I reminded her of that when suddenly everyone loved the Beatles...
That desperate need to be at the cool kids' table lasts, apparently, forever.
I wonder what the cross-section of "natural contrarians" (for want of a better term) instead belonged to the AV club, the chess club, shop class or somesuch?
It seems to me it is not so much class or race or culture or any other such factor, but a trait one is more or less born with.
It's not that I didn't want to be cool myself--i just had no docking point anywhere with which to connect to those who were. Eventually you understand you don't need anyone else to approve your choices, or you stay sad and outside forever.
Heh, a cool cat I never was. Nor was I some kind of loner rebel without due cause. Just sort of puttering along, picking the style of music and clothing which struck an emotional chord and then realising that hey! There's a whole buch of droogs looking and feeling just like me!
And then later realising that the lifestye had but three paths: like yo-yo in nd out of jail/rehab, an early grave as a fugly forgotten corpse, or shape up and ship out as I think the saying goes.
It was a weird realisation, that a whole bunch of people could sort-of form a group united in being or feeling "individualist" - I think that was part of the wake-up call all those decades and decades ago, that any group must needs be to some degree centered around a collectivist and conformist ideal, even voluntary such.
It's like Brian the Prophet said: "You're all individuals!" (Cue the obligatory "I'm not!" from the crowd.)
I was an extremely naive participant in some normal-for-the-times stuff that could have derailed my life forever. After one such weekend I looked at myself in the restroom mirror at work and wondered why none of my colleagues seemed to notice I was looking like Dracula's youngest bride, and I thought seriously what the hell am I doing?
And I just stopped doing it, and began to save my pennies, and the next year I started traveling in the summers (I worked for a private school and summers were unpaid time off). I think about all the people like me who were doing stuff like me and had the awful misfortune to be caught just before they might have started to get smarter too.
California governor newsom tested positive for covid yesterday 10 days after his second booster. He's taking paxlovid, so may likely have a relapse in a week or two, after passing it around to his fellow double jabbed political friends.
I wonder how the vax narrative will continue to evolve.
Couldn't happen to a nicer set of dictators! I'm sure he'll trot out the tired old line of thank goodness i'm vaccinated and boosted-it could have been so much worse! His sanctimonious response to the question about "emergency powers" being misused really chapped my hide! something along the lines of "well, the legislature (democrat-controlled) could have stopped me, but they chose not to". GRRRR!
And in the least surprising event of the year, both Jay Inslee and his Lt. Governor have covid. They are both quintuple jabbed and still parroting the company line:
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“I’ve tested positive for COVID-19. I’m working from home and experiencing mild but unpleasant symptoms, similar to a bad head cold,” said Heck, 69, in a statement. “I’m glad to be vaccinated and double-boosted. I know my symptoms could be much worse if I wasn’t vaccinated, and I urge everyone eligible for a booster shot to go and get one.”
“I am experiencing very mild symptoms and am most glad I’m vaccinated and boosted,” Inslee, 71, said.
Do you notice how they're getting more "descriptive" with their symptoms? That's usually a sign of lying.
Forget about taking endless amounts of the dirty vaccine. I wonder if having chronic waves of covid has an accumulative effect? What if we combine the two and burn the wick at both ends? Brilliant Clark!
Wait until it all comes crashing down on them. Not only will these types be the last to "know". But they'll also be easy to identify as frauds. The two things they fear the most
If you think these people are nasty now...just give them a moment. I think what we're going to see is the behavior of a caged impotent tigers.
I'm hoping Steve makes him the poster boy for everything he (newsom) promotes. I guess we have to wait for his relapse in a week or so from the paxlovid first though.
Meanwhile here in San Francisco with the majority vaccinated, covid seems to be spreading like wildfire. I'm not vaccinated, never so much as a sniffle these past 3 years yet there are still places here where I have no access.
Wouldn't it be funny if that was not just because of their jabs (which it was) but also because she took paxlovid (which I have no idea about and see no mention of.)
It's amazing that in the information age of the World Wide Web that these clownish propagandists think they can morph and shapeshift themselves and change their previous messaging without anyone knowing. They are literal clowns. 🤡
Sadly, there are people out there that will buy this along with the original swill they are selling. Those of us with critical thinking need to constantly be asking the questions. If not us, then who? Such questions like: If the vaccine truly worked, then why redefine what it is?
Gregggggg is such an idiot. The best part is we know he'll be ego reading this piece. Yo, Gregggggy, I think we understand why you are trying to destigmatize the Monkey Pox. Just saying.
As for the rest of the idiot lockdowners, Calif "health experts" aren't giving up yet, they are legitimately talking about masks and office lockdowns amongst diehards at the Capitol building. I hope those geniuses continue to boost away.
I think most of the "health officials" are keeping up with the control theater so that when covid finally disappears on its' own they can take credit and save their arse.
This is where most of my anger is leveled, at the hubris of the elites, politicians, and complicit media who perpetuated this sunk costs campaign for years now. It's hard to say who was leading who circling this drain of disaster. It appeared the corporate media fed off of the government and vice versa and they spiraled out of control.
I wonder how long it will be before we won’t be able to find anyone who has been vaccinated? Triple vaccinated? Not me! Fourth dosers - just won’t exist.
The most blame need to be placed at the feet of the American public. We, yes me included, allow apathy to degrade the representative democracy in two distinct ways. One is long-standing and the other is novel. 1. Improper education that results in a population not mentally equipped to participate in a representative democracy. 2. Standing for corrupt elections that allow treachery-focused individuals in positions of power.
The American public has been getting a 24/7 buffet of propaganda. It was wall to wall. Turn on the radio, it's PSA's and news reports. commercials, and shows surrounding the narrative. Turn on the TV and sporting events, commercials sporting mask wearing, news reports giving us the case rate play-by-play and talking heads reinforcing constantly the penalty of the treasonous activity of having an independent thought.
Social media, yes our "friends" were complicit sharing stories of businesses that are not "with" the program, those of us who cared to offer facts that contradicted the main narrative were subsequently unfriended and given a litany of profanity at times at how selfish we were.
we were cajoled, manipulated, insulted, herded, threatened, and told that we were "in this together." The implication being that anyone who had a thought or facts that contradicted the narrative were dissidents and enemies. Family and friends of years were now looked on with suspicion for the crime of disagreement.
It is true in a way that blame rests with us, for we end up with the government we deserve. Are we still worth the freedoms that our founding documents claim to protect?
Good analysis. We ARE still worth it and if the USA falters, the rest of the world for quite some time. I’m convinced the majority of people want things to improve and unfortunately, the standard of living in the west, USA specifically, is being undermined and will plummet very quickly. People can stop the erosion of their freedoms through an honest electoral process. If the general population doesn’t demands that then you get the type of leadership we currently have.
The corrupt media, including social media, is massively corrupt in that they have abandoned objectivity a long tims. Not enough people became enraged, so here we are.
The double-edged nature of the issue is that bogus elections and bullshit media turn many cynical and voila, more @%&ed-up government. We better figure it out sooner because there won’t be a later.
I agree with you in principle. We are worth it., but right now there are a lot of us who feel beaten down, frustrated, helpless traumatized, impoverished, and impacted by the last two years of mass psychosis.
I don't know how fast this plummeting will occur. I've heard the doomsayers, at the same time as being cynical, I also believe that "necessity is the mother of invention." If needs arise, then innovation will follow. We were warned before the supply chain issues that because it was largely computerized and time sensitive, that meant it was vulnerable. So it is my supposition that as it becomes a greater problem, more localized and less vulnerable innovations will be made to counter it. We'll learn to "do without" certain things and those items we truly need, we will find a way to get them ourselves.
I don't think that an honest electoral process will stop the erosion of our freedoms. Most of what we are dealing with are unelected aspects of our system. We need to cut those. Did we elect Fauci? What about those that advised local governors?
The problem is that the machine of government has a tendency to feed itself, and like us Americans, government has an obesity problem. How many politicians are really for our government going on a diet? We should be voting against legislation as our default, and we should revisit old legislation and get rid of it as well Here in Georgia, Kemp kept extending the emergency powers, but bought into a lot of the BS being fed him by his advisors. He talked out of both sides of his mouth about masking. He was against government mask mandates, but made a tour of Georgia showing proper mask etiquette.
Yes, the media have abandoned objectivity and so they need to be held accountable. We need a media that won't ignore the truth and facts because they don't match their narrative. If the studies and charts showed that any of this worked, and that these actions were necessitated by data showing that an agreed upon threshold of death required behavior to change of all it's citizens, then I would be agreeable to many of these policies.
Last note: One of the biggest arguments as to why we should do these things like social distancing and masking is "what would it hurt?" But if we adopted that attitude there is a lot of stupid pointless and ridiculous BS we could do on a given day. My example was the Sesame Street example of Ernie putting a banana in his ear to prevent alligators. But another example was circling a lamp post a number of times to stop migraine headaches.
So here we are in 2022. People are being killed in significant numbers directly and indirectly by an illegitimate federal administration and bureaucracy. Even with the specter of death, American citizens are not spending the time questioning the federal governments role in all this. Just an hour a day of self-education would help. Why there aren’t mobs marching on a daily basis in the Capitol and many state government centers is beyond me.
I look at it as a law of physics. An object at rest tends to stay at rest, and an object in motion tends to stay in motion. We have been complacent (at rest) for a long time, so the default is to remain at rest.
I think part of the problem is that people ascribe benevolence to a government based on which party is in power, when in truth both parties main motive is to obtain and maintain power. Because of the way the conservatives are portrayed in the media, most of their technique for obtaining power is to convince the media and public at large that they are not as offensive as they are portrayed to be. They spend most of their time reacting or preemptively responding to real and imagined criticisms of the left.
In truth, we should all be voting for no confidence in most if not all of our government both elected and unelected and that the power should shift to more localized venues such as state, county, and even city government.
Well stated. Hydropower is the analogy I like to use. Water at rest provides benefit but to get energy from water you need to apply work in the form of elevation and/or pressure. Our socioeconomic system is like water. No work applied and it will find its lowest energy level and be least beneficial. It takes work applied to the system to raise its potential benefits.
Applying work to something that doesn’t produce nearly instant tangible benefits isn’t where the mindset of USA society is right now. Can that change?... hopefully.
How are things for you guys now? My information is almost always dated. Are they still preventing people from crossing over into other territories? What about the travel bans to other countries?
It's amusing watching the narcissistic imperative to reimagine history to show oneself to have been correct all along, colliding with the awkward records demonstrating the opposite. This entire farce has been highly educational regarding the talents and characters of the people who imagine themselves an elite.
i wonder if it is more propagandistic impulse to shore up credibility and credential or flat out cognitive dissonance rendering such people entirely unable to imagine a past in which they were so wrong and therefore changing their actual memories of it in defense of their own towering self regard?
i'm sure both play a role, but i truly struggle to guess which dominates.
Narcissism requires the use of propaganda and vice versa. I don't think one can exist without the other.
Here is an interesting article
Outlining propaganda techniques used by narcissists. I cannot get the link to post.
12 Classic Propaganda Techniques Narcissists Use to Manipulate You
Written by Dan Neuharth, PhD,
Let’s try that link again: https://psychcentral.com/blog/narcissism-decoded/2017/09/12-classic-propaganda-techniques-narcissists-use-to-manipulate-you#1
Thank you! Not sure why I couldn’t paste.
I too was having issues, suspect it was due the embedded video. Thank you for the link, it was a good reminder of the personality traits to avoid in life (if you can! Sometimes they’re unavoidable).
Interesting article. Notice how most of them attempt to make the other person feel guilty? I'm amazed how often this happens in families and is seen as acceptable or even normal behavior. People that love each other don't try and manipulate each other through guilt.
Hey, stop talking about my family like that!!!
Lol, agreed!
Thanks for the recommendation! I'll fire up a search engine with the title and find the article.
I'm going to have to think long and hard on this one.
In this context, by "propaganda," do you mean knowingly misleading self-promotion?
I'm trying to apply your proof here to the behavior of individual narcissists acting in self-interest.
But a challenging part of analyzing and treating narcissism is the cognitive dissonance, not conscious dishonesty. Narcissists self-dissemble first, because their logic proof doesn't allow for them to be "wrong."
I tend to think of propaganda as entirely cynical.
What do you think of all this?
Some narcissists / psychopaths are consciously dishonest, especially if their orientation is predatory. Others are clueless all the way down - complete cognitive dissonance to and past the point of absurdity. They can't see themselves as wrong, and they're completely oblivious to how they're being, how much of a hypocrisy-cartoon they are.
They may both act the same in deflection / blame shifting / denial of reality / gaslighting. Some are more oriented towards "self preservation", and when they feel threatened or confronted with something they don't want to face, they flail around in pathetic defensiveness and projection. Either way it's maddening to witness.
It's a fracture / false self at the personality level, not amenable to treatment, (Besides the occasional "unicorn". Of course many have narcissistic qualities, but actual narcissists are only their false self, by nature they can't be genuinely empathic or self reflective. They will always, always, blameshift. If they apologize, it's a blameshift disguised as apology.)
That psych central article describes the communication really well.
So many similarities between personal abusive behaviors and what's happening in the big picture. One layer is authoritarian control - many narcissistic / psychopathic partners / employers are oppressively controlling and feel justified in being so.
But some narcissists aren't controlling at all, unless they're arguing. What they all have in common is they can't be genuinely self reflective / can't admit being wrong / can't authentically listen / don't want to listen. Blameshift / refuse collaboration or compromise / gaslight - sometimes not intending to break down anyone's reality, just feeling like they're defending themselves, but their view is so skewed they end up denying reality.
So many out there are decoding narcissistic communication, helping people in abusive relationships recognize what's happening. Dr Ramani and Dr Les Carter are knowledgeable and understand so many nuances of these difficult personalities and the havoc they wreak on others. But they don't connect how some of their own descriptions apply so exactly to what's happening to us all - from the gaslighting, history-re-writing lies of the media to the plans of the elites to tag, track, limit us while saying it's for our own good and using guilt - and future faking - to get compliance.
Maggie Russo's substack connects those dots ~ https://maggierusso.substack.com/ ( please subscribe / like. I don't know her, but I appreciate the important links she makes! )
https://psychcentral.com/blog/narcissism-decoded/2017/09/12-classic-propaganda-techniques-narcissists-use-to-manipulate-you#1
Wow Ellen, this is an excellent nutshell analysis. As someone whose experience with a narcissist very likely primed me to see the big picture abuse, it’s really gratifying to see other people connect these dots. Thanks
Nailed it. Dr. Ramani is awesome, I second that. The Little Shaman too.
Well, not all narcissists are unconscious of their condition and so they knowingly lie to maintain the facade of being "normal". These are the types that are usually considered sociopaths, if I'm not mistaken. There's a man on YouTube who posts under the name H.G. Tudor who is this type of narc. While he's entertaining on YouTube I do feel sorry for any of his close associates who have to deal with him on a daily basis.
But the type you're talking about is the most common that we encounter and so they are definitely the bigger problem.
I am not sure there is a treatment for someone labeled as a narcissist. They see absolutely no problem or issue. They are right and always tell the “truth”. But it is behavior to be aware of.
This is not proof. I think you are misunderstanding. I thought it was an interesting article. Not sure how you thought that I was claiming it’s proof of anything. I have no vested interest in this paper or POV.
I'm not addressing you or your comment. I was responding to Darling.
I'm also using the word "proof" here differently than you are. I'm referring to logic proofs.
I’ve missed your great comments!
Hi Kat! Aww thanks, just popping in for a moment.
Having observed narcissists in my personal life, I tend towards the latter explanation. If it was more consciously Machiavellian you'd think they'd at least delete the contradicting tweets first. Instead, they just forget they exist.
They know they exist. Narcissists just don't care.
These people blatantly lie (often smiling as they do so) & are unrepentant & unashamed when their hypocracy is pointed out. Because they KNOW there will be no consequences, no retribution, no justice - at least not in this life
They are acting like children, literally.
They can say one thing and then deny they ever said it the next when proven wrong and will throw a tantrum if called out.
That's the level of discourse our society has reached in the mainstream.
I know I’ve lived with one for 20 years now…only realized it about ten years in…but a new day Is dawning!
I'll never forgive the Coronamaniacs.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/ill-never-forgive-the-coronamaniacs?s=w
So CA’s Governor (Newsom) just got his 4th booster even though he was vaccine-injured by the 3rd (GB). And he got Covid 10 days later. This is what we’re up against in CA!
Not even an original story. Same thing with Trudeau, and the rainbow prince continues to demand all Canadians get the jab.
Newsome and Trudeau are cut from the same cloth.
Both WEF Acolytes!
How I wish any of turdeau's were real shots. I somehow doubt it.
Have it my family: same reaction. Got Covid -- but still getting boosted. We're not elites, btw. This seems more a case of monkey see, monkey do.
Why even try to convince people who are on the booster band wagon? Let them be jolly jabers.
The more jabs they get the better, IMO.
I totally agree. You talk about making them eat crow. Let them wallow in their self-pity after they figure out they've been poisoning themselves. Let's see how self righteous they are then.
They'll still be self-righteous. That's what makes them them.
Problem with this is most will never allow themselves to see what they have done. Have a cousin with acute leukemie after her booster. If she admitted a connection I think it would kill her before the cancer. So even trying to see the silver lining in her situation: maybe she’ll wake up! Is a complete non-starter. And so while I find her fate deserved to an extent, I tend to have a philosophy that we are all connected and what is bad for her will be bad for me and the rest of us. Thus the schadenfreude is tainted.
I think you are right in this case. I do agree with Bandit that they'll always be self righteous. However they will have to live with being the last to "know". And the zealots will be exposed as frauds. I posted somewhere else that those are their two biggest fears in life.
They may not eat their humble pie publicly, but they will internally. That's a living hell for those types of people.
Some regular folks who got the first two shots are a bit more circumspect. Most of my friends and family did not take the booster and are now seeing that their initial decision was a mistake. That doesn't mean they want to talk about it though. BTW, three of them are experiencing Vax injuries. They told me that unsolicited.
The over-ardent zealots are a different story. They'll always be self righteous. But who cares we have the receipts. If nothing else they will have egg on their face and been exposed as automatons who can't think for themselves
oh ho! the vax injury vindication. in my dreams. or actually, nightmares. yes, some people deserve compassion and others deserve condescension. it's a case by case call.
Indeed. Perhaps continued injections will accomplish what the recall could not.
Lol!
Give them the idea that they need to have the mRNA-fluid as an IV-drip or one of them things diabetics can have implanted?
If succesful, pretty soon the worst Jab-Jugend will have won a Darwin.
Newsome is just another Shwab Jugend, trying very hard to keep the WEF 'Great Reset' on track by keeping the fear alive and the jackboot of government control on the throat of the governed. He'll never admit the vaccines did nothing.
That assclown just signed climate 'memorandum of cooperation' with Jacinda Ardern, another resetter. Probably has to cooperate with her as I'm sure his SHTF bunker is in New Zealand like the rest of the CA rich tech titans.
Vaccine complications seriously injured or killed people. Wouldn't call that "nothing."
So far we are seeing evidence that far from "vaccines did nothing" suggesting vaccines can cause immune system vulnerabilities in some people (maybe all).
I highly doubt that clown took any type of booster.
Oh but he’s taking Paxlovid
(another Fauci/Pfizer collaboration I believe) and ‘observing all the guidelines’ and ‘working remotely from home’ (or The French Laundry), which is pretty much how he has ‘governed’ Commifornia for over the past 27 months!
What a guy, huh? Freaking loser.
😩😩
What a dope
Never Again! DO NOT COMPLY! All of the nonsense must be rejected in FULL. It has always been binary. Make your choice! There's no daylight in between
100% this.
The only solution is we must bring all these people to trial and find, prove and affirm the TRUTH.
Grand jury exhibition A:
"I'm a Paramedic in the Greater Atlanta area. cardiac-related calls are overwhelmingly young males18-30years old. Typical early morning scene: We arrive at a suburban home, only to find the entire family in severe emotional duress.This is what we hear--"Save my Baby! Please!" Over and over we find these young men still in their beds, deceased. Most appear to be sudden cardiac deaths. We are obligated to ask "was he recently vaccinated" to which the reply is ALWAYS "Yes." I was an Army medic (68 Whiskey) yet I've never seen such carnage as we're currently experiencing. "
Typical comment on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSn9hEYPis
DrbeenMedicalLectures
Increased Cardiac Arrest Emergency Events in Israel During Vaccination Period (Age 16-39)
"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
John 8:32
Thank you for all that you do. Thank you!
The paramedic isn't me. idk what to do. I just try not to be deceived.
I feel you. Storytelling is powerful. We must keep telling stories of all that is happening around us, which is what you're doing.
Oh, ok, thanks. I misunderstood.
Well this gave me goosebumps. Killing all our able bodied young men. Cue the conspiracy theories.
Epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff is even saying it on Twitter,
"To restore trust in public health there needs to be a brutally honest covid commission recognizing all the mistakes made."
https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1531261948569985024?s=20&t=MU7NIWM6gyu5jZOS7Xjwzw.
First witness your honor...
You are gonna be one busy cat if you post on all the jersey switchers.
I'll add that one a personal level let's not let all the people in your life forget who they have been these past two years. Supported lockdown, masking, jailing people, ostracism for wanting body autonomy? Call them out.
Been saying for awhile now: None of 'em ever left HS. I remember when my neighbor told me nobody liked the Beatles. She was pissed when I reminded her of that when suddenly everyone loved the Beatles...
That desperate need to be at the cool kids' table lasts, apparently, forever.
I wonder what the cross-section of "natural contrarians" (for want of a better term) instead belonged to the AV club, the chess club, shop class or somesuch?
It seems to me it is not so much class or race or culture or any other such factor, but a trait one is more or less born with.
It's not that I didn't want to be cool myself--i just had no docking point anywhere with which to connect to those who were. Eventually you understand you don't need anyone else to approve your choices, or you stay sad and outside forever.
Heh, a cool cat I never was. Nor was I some kind of loner rebel without due cause. Just sort of puttering along, picking the style of music and clothing which struck an emotional chord and then realising that hey! There's a whole buch of droogs looking and feeling just like me!
And then later realising that the lifestye had but three paths: like yo-yo in nd out of jail/rehab, an early grave as a fugly forgotten corpse, or shape up and ship out as I think the saying goes.
It was a weird realisation, that a whole bunch of people could sort-of form a group united in being or feeling "individualist" - I think that was part of the wake-up call all those decades and decades ago, that any group must needs be to some degree centered around a collectivist and conformist ideal, even voluntary such.
It's like Brian the Prophet said: "You're all individuals!" (Cue the obligatory "I'm not!" from the crowd.)
I was an extremely naive participant in some normal-for-the-times stuff that could have derailed my life forever. After one such weekend I looked at myself in the restroom mirror at work and wondered why none of my colleagues seemed to notice I was looking like Dracula's youngest bride, and I thought seriously what the hell am I doing?
And I just stopped doing it, and began to save my pennies, and the next year I started traveling in the summers (I worked for a private school and summers were unpaid time off). I think about all the people like me who were doing stuff like me and had the awful misfortune to be caught just before they might have started to get smarter too.
This ^
California governor newsom tested positive for covid yesterday 10 days after his second booster. He's taking paxlovid, so may likely have a relapse in a week or two, after passing it around to his fellow double jabbed political friends.
I wonder how the vax narrative will continue to evolve.
https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/3505053-california-gov-newsom-tests-positive-for-covid/
Inslee AND his Lt. Gov both have covid -- both double boosted.
We need to start working to change the narrative to "Inslee AND his Lt. Gov both have covid BECAUSE they are both double boosted."
Pathogenic priming. Dr. James Lyons-Weiler @https://popularrationalism.substack.com/ has both peer-reviewed pubs and Sub posts on it.
Couldn't happen to a nicer set of dictators! I'm sure he'll trot out the tired old line of thank goodness i'm vaccinated and boosted-it could have been so much worse! His sanctimonious response to the question about "emergency powers" being misused really chapped my hide! something along the lines of "well, the legislature (democrat-controlled) could have stopped me, but they chose not to". GRRRR!
He literally did.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/the-more-i-read-the-worse-it-gets
And in the least surprising event of the year, both Jay Inslee and his Lt. Governor have covid. They are both quintuple jabbed and still parroting the company line:
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“I’ve tested positive for COVID-19. I’m working from home and experiencing mild but unpleasant symptoms, similar to a bad head cold,” said Heck, 69, in a statement. “I’m glad to be vaccinated and double-boosted. I know my symptoms could be much worse if I wasn’t vaccinated, and I urge everyone eligible for a booster shot to go and get one.”
“I am experiencing very mild symptoms and am most glad I’m vaccinated and boosted,” Inslee, 71, said.
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No word on if either will take another booster.
Do you notice how they're getting more "descriptive" with their symptoms? That's usually a sign of lying.
Forget about taking endless amounts of the dirty vaccine. I wonder if having chronic waves of covid has an accumulative effect? What if we combine the two and burn the wick at both ends? Brilliant Clark!
Wait until it all comes crashing down on them. Not only will these types be the last to "know". But they'll also be easy to identify as frauds. The two things they fear the most
If you think these people are nasty now...just give them a moment. I think what we're going to see is the behavior of a caged impotent tigers.
Hilarious right?! Can he get double bell's palsy?
I'm hoping Steve makes him the poster boy for everything he (newsom) promotes. I guess we have to wait for his relapse in a week or so from the paxlovid first though.
Forgot which substack I was commenting on....
I meant Steve Kirsch, who lives in california and has a lot of energy to write about stuff like this...
At this point I'm cheering for them. Boost away bovines
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Paxlovid is exactly what you shouldn’t take. It’s just another Big Pharma scam. It only alleviates the symptoms.
Meanwhile here in San Francisco with the majority vaccinated, covid seems to be spreading like wildfire. I'm not vaccinated, never so much as a sniffle these past 3 years yet there are still places here where I have no access.
What they are doing to you is wrong. You are on the right side of history. This will be a Scarlett letter on the most ardent
Get out of that city of you can. It’s evil. Seriously!
He tested positive just after his visit with recently recovered Ardern she of the chuckling yes we are creating a 2 tier society.
Wouldn't it be funny if that was not just because of their jabs (which it was) but also because she took paxlovid (which I have no idea about and see no mention of.)
Always remember when they say "We didn't know anything!" that all the 'experts' were actually pretty spot-on until the politics took over.
It's amazing that in the information age of the World Wide Web that these clownish propagandists think they can morph and shapeshift themselves and change their previous messaging without anyone knowing. They are literal clowns. 🤡
Sadly, there are people out there that will buy this along with the original swill they are selling. Those of us with critical thinking need to constantly be asking the questions. If not us, then who? Such questions like: If the vaccine truly worked, then why redefine what it is?
Fecking lying tin-plated dictator wannabes.
Gregggggg is such an idiot. The best part is we know he'll be ego reading this piece. Yo, Gregggggy, I think we understand why you are trying to destigmatize the Monkey Pox. Just saying.
As for the rest of the idiot lockdowners, Calif "health experts" aren't giving up yet, they are legitimately talking about masks and office lockdowns amongst diehards at the Capitol building. I hope those geniuses continue to boost away.
I think most of the "health officials" are keeping up with the control theater so that when covid finally disappears on its' own they can take credit and save their arse.
Except that in places like California it won't disappear due to the jabs and paxlovid.
Pfizer ceo sees "endless waves of covid," uh, profits.
This is where most of my anger is leveled, at the hubris of the elites, politicians, and complicit media who perpetuated this sunk costs campaign for years now. It's hard to say who was leading who circling this drain of disaster. It appeared the corporate media fed off of the government and vice versa and they spiraled out of control.
Not to increase your anger, but "Six Notes on Neo-Feudalism" does support your general claims. https://americanexile.substack.com/p/six-notes-on-neo-feudalism
I wonder how long it will be before we won’t be able to find anyone who has been vaccinated? Triple vaccinated? Not me! Fourth dosers - just won’t exist.
Technically, they weren't given a vaccine, and were only given a vaccine once they redefined what it meant.
We'll eventually see a rash of protests where people burn their vax cards.
They will be fine- they will still be in the computer with their QR codes.
Hey, wait a minute. This was supposed to be an all kitten weekend !
He couldn't help but getting serious. I don't think Gato ever stops working.
The most blame need to be placed at the feet of the American public. We, yes me included, allow apathy to degrade the representative democracy in two distinct ways. One is long-standing and the other is novel. 1. Improper education that results in a population not mentally equipped to participate in a representative democracy. 2. Standing for corrupt elections that allow treachery-focused individuals in positions of power.
How does one quantify blame?
The American public has been getting a 24/7 buffet of propaganda. It was wall to wall. Turn on the radio, it's PSA's and news reports. commercials, and shows surrounding the narrative. Turn on the TV and sporting events, commercials sporting mask wearing, news reports giving us the case rate play-by-play and talking heads reinforcing constantly the penalty of the treasonous activity of having an independent thought.
Social media, yes our "friends" were complicit sharing stories of businesses that are not "with" the program, those of us who cared to offer facts that contradicted the main narrative were subsequently unfriended and given a litany of profanity at times at how selfish we were.
we were cajoled, manipulated, insulted, herded, threatened, and told that we were "in this together." The implication being that anyone who had a thought or facts that contradicted the narrative were dissidents and enemies. Family and friends of years were now looked on with suspicion for the crime of disagreement.
It is true in a way that blame rests with us, for we end up with the government we deserve. Are we still worth the freedoms that our founding documents claim to protect?
Good analysis. We ARE still worth it and if the USA falters, the rest of the world for quite some time. I’m convinced the majority of people want things to improve and unfortunately, the standard of living in the west, USA specifically, is being undermined and will plummet very quickly. People can stop the erosion of their freedoms through an honest electoral process. If the general population doesn’t demands that then you get the type of leadership we currently have.
The corrupt media, including social media, is massively corrupt in that they have abandoned objectivity a long tims. Not enough people became enraged, so here we are.
The double-edged nature of the issue is that bogus elections and bullshit media turn many cynical and voila, more @%&ed-up government. We better figure it out sooner because there won’t be a later.
I agree with you in principle. We are worth it., but right now there are a lot of us who feel beaten down, frustrated, helpless traumatized, impoverished, and impacted by the last two years of mass psychosis.
I don't know how fast this plummeting will occur. I've heard the doomsayers, at the same time as being cynical, I also believe that "necessity is the mother of invention." If needs arise, then innovation will follow. We were warned before the supply chain issues that because it was largely computerized and time sensitive, that meant it was vulnerable. So it is my supposition that as it becomes a greater problem, more localized and less vulnerable innovations will be made to counter it. We'll learn to "do without" certain things and those items we truly need, we will find a way to get them ourselves.
I don't think that an honest electoral process will stop the erosion of our freedoms. Most of what we are dealing with are unelected aspects of our system. We need to cut those. Did we elect Fauci? What about those that advised local governors?
The problem is that the machine of government has a tendency to feed itself, and like us Americans, government has an obesity problem. How many politicians are really for our government going on a diet? We should be voting against legislation as our default, and we should revisit old legislation and get rid of it as well Here in Georgia, Kemp kept extending the emergency powers, but bought into a lot of the BS being fed him by his advisors. He talked out of both sides of his mouth about masking. He was against government mask mandates, but made a tour of Georgia showing proper mask etiquette.
Yes, the media have abandoned objectivity and so they need to be held accountable. We need a media that won't ignore the truth and facts because they don't match their narrative. If the studies and charts showed that any of this worked, and that these actions were necessitated by data showing that an agreed upon threshold of death required behavior to change of all it's citizens, then I would be agreeable to many of these policies.
Last note: One of the biggest arguments as to why we should do these things like social distancing and masking is "what would it hurt?" But if we adopted that attitude there is a lot of stupid pointless and ridiculous BS we could do on a given day. My example was the Sesame Street example of Ernie putting a banana in his ear to prevent alligators. But another example was circling a lamp post a number of times to stop migraine headaches.
So here we are in 2022. People are being killed in significant numbers directly and indirectly by an illegitimate federal administration and bureaucracy. Even with the specter of death, American citizens are not spending the time questioning the federal governments role in all this. Just an hour a day of self-education would help. Why there aren’t mobs marching on a daily basis in the Capitol and many state government centers is beyond me.
I look at it as a law of physics. An object at rest tends to stay at rest, and an object in motion tends to stay in motion. We have been complacent (at rest) for a long time, so the default is to remain at rest.
I think part of the problem is that people ascribe benevolence to a government based on which party is in power, when in truth both parties main motive is to obtain and maintain power. Because of the way the conservatives are portrayed in the media, most of their technique for obtaining power is to convince the media and public at large that they are not as offensive as they are portrayed to be. They spend most of their time reacting or preemptively responding to real and imagined criticisms of the left.
In truth, we should all be voting for no confidence in most if not all of our government both elected and unelected and that the power should shift to more localized venues such as state, county, and even city government.
Well stated. Hydropower is the analogy I like to use. Water at rest provides benefit but to get energy from water you need to apply work in the form of elevation and/or pressure. Our socioeconomic system is like water. No work applied and it will find its lowest energy level and be least beneficial. It takes work applied to the system to raise its potential benefits.
Applying work to something that doesn’t produce nearly instant tangible benefits isn’t where the mindset of USA society is right now. Can that change?... hopefully.
I'm in Australia and I also followed the UK drama by subscribing to the Great Barrington Declaration email list.
Both countries pushed the propaganda non stop through every public avenue.
How are things for you guys now? My information is almost always dated. Are they still preventing people from crossing over into other territories? What about the travel bans to other countries?
We can travel across states and internationally again now. WA kept the border restrictions going the longest.
We will overcome. They do not have truth on their side. The whole lot are rotten garbage. Let em' rot in the bins of history.
Stay STRONG!..:)