Either way, the only way out is through. We have a slim chance of it being better, and a good chance of it getting bad. Very bad.
ItтАЩs going to break; itтАЩs a matter of how. I, for one, at not optimistic. At least not in the short term.
My grandma, bless her 98 year old heart, talk about this often. Most people truly donтАЩt have a clue just how ugly it can be.
Personally, IтАЩd rather have secession, and control forced back by the local level. IтАЩd rather have the opt-out than the destruction. We reallyтАж reallyтАж donтАЩt want destruction. Most revolts fail, and are quietly backed by the folks who take control as soon as the peasants do the dirty revolt work for them.
As a rule, civil strife (e.g. revolt, revolution, civil war excluding actual invasion by an enemy) tends to produce a worse outcome than whatever was the status that existed before.
I hear you, we are in a pickle. It's unavoidably true that the current blind juggernaut pharma/government/corporate/media turds are on tap 24/7. Combine that with a vulnerable/stressed/ill population, stir and bam, self sustaining mierda.
Seems folks like Daniel Schmactenberger, Nate Hagen, The Dark Horse Duo, Charles Eisenstein & others are deep into the conversation. The general idea as I understand could start with Kettering's тАЬA problem well stated is a problem half solved."
The idea being if we hash it ALL out looking for the underlying dynamics, we might be able to see worthy responses to what lies ahead. But it seems like most of the talking heads I've been listening too agree we have a STEEP climb ahead.
The corruption is so thoroughly imbedded our only hope is to disband the entire federal government. Every state on the US is larger than many countries in Europe. We can each go our own way and be just fine.
Yeah. I think itтАЩs the only way. We canтАЩt disband govt institutions as they wonтАЩt go down without a bloodbath; we have to capture them, and I donтАЩt see that ending well. ItтАЩs opt out or violence. Anyone who wants violence is na├пve.
I rereadтАж.I think shibumi meant govt agency but I could be wrong.
Nah. The govt agencies are funded by taxes. Once they have a green light, they never accept a red one. Every part of any government institution incessantly insists on growing in size and budget. And inefficiency (less work, bigger budget) since they have no market competition.
Even IF I could dig up one that actually got shut down, there are hundreds more that should have been but havenтАЩt been.
NSF might be less corrupt but only because it's slightly more basic science. However, grant applications always have a "how does this apply to the real world?" section - I would be curious to see just how many grants lead to the practical applications dreamed up during a lab siesta.
Yep, so many three-letter agencies need to go. NIH, CDC, FDA, FBI, ATF, CIA, DOJ...
Unfortunately not gonna happen until the whole Empire crumbles.
On the bright side, we may be closer to that point than many people think.
Perhaps so. But whenever someone says this, I always think of Leonard Cohen's prophecy:
"You're not going to like what comes after America."
Either way, the only way out is through. We have a slim chance of it being better, and a good chance of it getting bad. Very bad.
ItтАЩs going to break; itтАЩs a matter of how. I, for one, at not optimistic. At least not in the short term.
My grandma, bless her 98 year old heart, talk about this often. Most people truly donтАЩt have a clue just how ugly it can be.
Personally, IтАЩd rather have secession, and control forced back by the local level. IтАЩd rather have the opt-out than the destruction. We reallyтАж reallyтАж donтАЩt want destruction. Most revolts fail, and are quietly backed by the folks who take control as soon as the peasants do the dirty revolt work for them.
Ugh, not today. Lol. I need to work.
As a rule, civil strife (e.g. revolt, revolution, civil war excluding actual invasion by an enemy) tends to produce a worse outcome than whatever was the status that existed before.
I hear you, we are in a pickle. It's unavoidably true that the current blind juggernaut pharma/government/corporate/media turds are on tap 24/7. Combine that with a vulnerable/stressed/ill population, stir and bam, self sustaining mierda.
Seems folks like Daniel Schmactenberger, Nate Hagen, The Dark Horse Duo, Charles Eisenstein & others are deep into the conversation. The general idea as I understand could start with Kettering's тАЬA problem well stated is a problem half solved."
The idea being if we hash it ALL out looking for the underlying dynamics, we might be able to see worthy responses to what lies ahead. But it seems like most of the talking heads I've been listening too agree we have a STEEP climb ahead.
Peace
I despise what has become of our America. I see great hope in decentralization, with free markets in every area including education and medicine.
The corruption is so thoroughly imbedded our only hope is to disband the entire federal government. Every state on the US is larger than many countries in Europe. We can each go our own way and be just fine.
Yeah. I think itтАЩs the only way. We canтАЩt disband govt institutions as they wonтАЩt go down without a bloodbath; we have to capture them, and I donтАЩt see that ending well. ItтАЩs opt out or violence. Anyone who wants violence is na├пve.
My comment want going to be "when did the US government every shut down an agency?"
Probably something somewhere they didnтАЩt agree with
I rereadтАж.I think shibumi meant govt agency but I could be wrong.
Nah. The govt agencies are funded by taxes. Once they have a green light, they never accept a red one. Every part of any government institution incessantly insists on growing in size and budget. And inefficiency (less work, bigger budget) since they have no market competition.
Even IF I could dig up one that actually got shut down, there are hundreds more that should have been but havenтАЩt been.
Only if it was pro-citizen.
ItтАЩs going to suck. People will die. Including children. But I suspect it is the only way now. How tragic. How truly tragic.
Children will die of the vaxx on the schedule, too. Just a different reason.
I believe you are right
This Sept/Oct time frame has made my huts squirm for the last year+...
I pray so
NSF might be less corrupt but only because it's slightly more basic science. However, grant applications always have a "how does this apply to the real world?" section - I would be curious to see just how many grants lead to the practical applications dreamed up during a lab siesta.