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Mark Leone's avatar

We need to shift the argument from "cheating is rampant" to "we have no way to be sure of the integrity of our elections because many states are adopting/maintainng processes designed to keep the waters muddy".

Arguing that the 2020 eleciton was stolen is manifestly a mixed-results prooposition. Arguing that the 2020 election did not produce a verifiablly reliable result is pretty much axiomatic.

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SmithFS's avatar

That's what I've been saying. Make a 100% verifiable, rock solid electoral system, likely using all hand counted paper ballots, and I'd say forget the past fraud, I'll trade "Yup, Biden won" for "Now so there will be no more election doubt, 100% transparent, verifiable election with NO top secret, proprietary software voting machines". Fair trade.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Exactly. The entire goal was to open up so many election integrity holes that we can't possibly cover them all. Mail-in ballots without a postmark? Count 'em!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I agree.

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