One problem with parity in fraud is that some places are easier to twist than others, and cities are among the worst. If cities tend to produce a particular kind of voter, or particular party, and rampant fraud is easier in cities, then we can expect the states at large to be heavily biased towards the party of cities. To get parity one …
One problem with parity in fraud is that some places are easier to twist than others, and cities are among the worst. If cities tend to produce a particular kind of voter, or particular party, and rampant fraud is easier in cities, then we can expect the states at large to be heavily biased towards the party of cities. To get parity one would have to have another population center that was biased the other way, but cities are strangely one color across the country.
Have you seen what is going on in NY State? Claiming "most of it is not fraud" is misinformed when you have not actually looked at the level of fraud that is going on, not just with the ballots but with the voter rolls. The whole advantage of the machines was that so much more fraud could be done so much more easily. Remember, exit polls magically stopped being correlated to actual outcomes in 2004, the first major election after the Help America Vote Act that brought the machines into use in the Bush/Cheney Admin. https://rumble.com/v1kun2j-ny-citizens-audit-presents-weaponized-voter-rolls-epochtv-sept-20-22.html
That might well be a lot of it. I can't help but note that the most mail in voting per capita seems to happen in cities. I haven't seen the current election's numbers on that, so maybe it changed, but I had a graph someone put together from 2020 showing that cities had phenomenal numbers of mail in ballots compared to rural areas on a per capita basis. That probably replaces bussing voters etc., but it strikes me as odd.
On the other hand, I am fine with cities doing whatever corruption their local voters are willing to accept, I just wish they would stop being part of my state. If someone was to make the argument that the real problem with our electoral politics is the size of our states and the break down of cities vs rural governance, I'd be on board. Maybe no state should have more than two million people in it, and if it does it should split?
That's hard to argue with suitcases full of ballots appearing after the counting 'stopped' (Atlanta IIRC), blocks of votes changing due to 'computer error' (Antrim County, MI), 2000 Mules, boxes of 95-99% Dem votes counted multiple times, audit files deleted, and so forth.
Your point that Dems have a better 'ground game' might be true or not, but the recent results in Arizona, Pennsylvania and Michigan to start with are highly suspect. IMO, deserving a serious audit that never happened in 2020 -- 'deniers' were 'othered' by MSM and Tech, de-catformed and denigrated; nothing happened.
If the Dems truly won AZ, PA, and MI due to honest get-out-the vote campaigns, then they would welcome an audit. Methinks they doth protest too much (h/t the Bard).
I would be really curious to see a comparison between voter registration party and voter turn out for those states. I mean, it is public knowledge what party you register as, and it is public knowledge whether or not you voted. So... are lots of voting R's voting D? Is it all the hot independent action swinging things? Is voter turn out of registered D's much higher than average in some places with no corresponding R spikes? I'd be curious to see that.
(Not curious enough to figure out how to collect all the data myself, but I would be willing to help process it.)
One problem with parity in fraud is that some places are easier to twist than others, and cities are among the worst. If cities tend to produce a particular kind of voter, or particular party, and rampant fraud is easier in cities, then we can expect the states at large to be heavily biased towards the party of cities. To get parity one would have to have another population center that was biased the other way, but cities are strangely one color across the country.
most of it is not fraud so much as adaptation.
the dems have been much better at getting out the mail in vote and using it to change and expand voting patterns.
Have you seen what is going on in NY State? Claiming "most of it is not fraud" is misinformed when you have not actually looked at the level of fraud that is going on, not just with the ballots but with the voter rolls. The whole advantage of the machines was that so much more fraud could be done so much more easily. Remember, exit polls magically stopped being correlated to actual outcomes in 2004, the first major election after the Help America Vote Act that brought the machines into use in the Bush/Cheney Admin. https://rumble.com/v1kun2j-ny-citizens-audit-presents-weaponized-voter-rolls-epochtv-sept-20-22.html
That might well be a lot of it. I can't help but note that the most mail in voting per capita seems to happen in cities. I haven't seen the current election's numbers on that, so maybe it changed, but I had a graph someone put together from 2020 showing that cities had phenomenal numbers of mail in ballots compared to rural areas on a per capita basis. That probably replaces bussing voters etc., but it strikes me as odd.
On the other hand, I am fine with cities doing whatever corruption their local voters are willing to accept, I just wish they would stop being part of my state. If someone was to make the argument that the real problem with our electoral politics is the size of our states and the break down of cities vs rural governance, I'd be on board. Maybe no state should have more than two million people in it, and if it does it should split?
That's hard to argue with suitcases full of ballots appearing after the counting 'stopped' (Atlanta IIRC), blocks of votes changing due to 'computer error' (Antrim County, MI), 2000 Mules, boxes of 95-99% Dem votes counted multiple times, audit files deleted, and so forth.
Your point that Dems have a better 'ground game' might be true or not, but the recent results in Arizona, Pennsylvania and Michigan to start with are highly suspect. IMO, deserving a serious audit that never happened in 2020 -- 'deniers' were 'othered' by MSM and Tech, de-catformed and denigrated; nothing happened.
If the Dems truly won AZ, PA, and MI due to honest get-out-the vote campaigns, then they would welcome an audit. Methinks they doth protest too much (h/t the Bard).
I would be really curious to see a comparison between voter registration party and voter turn out for those states. I mean, it is public knowledge what party you register as, and it is public knowledge whether or not you voted. So... are lots of voting R's voting D? Is it all the hot independent action swinging things? Is voter turn out of registered D's much higher than average in some places with no corresponding R spikes? I'd be curious to see that.
(Not curious enough to figure out how to collect all the data myself, but I would be willing to help process it.)