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Birdingmom's avatar

Multiple early treatment protocols: FLCCC.net and earlycovidcare.org are 2 examples.

Prophylactic protocols there too.

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shasta's avatar

Good point. But, will they be available? In Spain I do not think you can get HCQ or Ivermectine. No doctor will prescribe that. The only way is get the jab.

Prophylactic protocols: years and years, just in case... No, thanks.

Early tratment if I get the illness: Yes! I have done my research (FLCCC+AAPS(McCullogh)+Zelenko). Being healthy and 50- you are done with Vit. C, Vit. D, Zinc Sulfate and Quercetine. I cannot access Zn nor Q...

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arthur brogard's avatar

i find 'indiamart' online puts us in touch with many suppliers and i have done two good transactions, got the right stuff at the right price and promptly. I get quotes from selected possible suppliers first and I must say that I've had quotes that are twice the price I'd have to pay domestically, retail for some things. So you can get there but exercise a little caution and discretion.

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Catmac's avatar

I had Covid in August and got low-dose ivermectin (stromectol) at the pharmacy with no prescription тАФ but they didnтАЩt make it easy because it was sold out almost everywhere!

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agustina's avatar

got elemmental zinc and quercetin out of amazon es, btw. i thought i'll keep it around just in case.

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agustina's avatar

i found a pharmacy in andorra that had ivm but i believe you did need a prescription. also, i am not sure you would receive the medication considering customs denied me the delivery of some plain make-up coming from the us only about 4 weeks ago.

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Birdingmom's avatar

Insane that you can't even get makeup through customs!

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agustina's avatar

i thought so, too. i had no idea. it appears to be a new regulation that started this summer. you can bring it in when you visit but you cannot have it shipped. it makes lsense. not.

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Birdingmom's avatar

See my reply to you and Purple Man.

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Wolfenstein's avatar

Green Tea which contains ECGC will work as replacement for Quercetin.

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Birdingmom's avatar

Good, glad you knew that. You cannot get quercetin in Spain? Can you order from the USA or elsewhere? You can get ivermectin from India without a prescription, but you're right about doctors not prescribing it except through telemedicine here - FLCCC and AFLDS - America's Frontline Doctors. I don't do ivermectin prophylactic, just all the other supplements including quercetin and zinc.

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shasta's avatar

Quercetin: they have some in Costco Spain, but I do not know if the dose is appropriate. I need 500 mg. I have to go to the store and check.

I do not think you can order medicines from abroad. And I am a bit afraid of doing so. Even from the US, let alone 3rd world countries. But it seems it is my only option at the moment.

I have read that IVM prophylactic can be substituted by Nigella Sativa (FLCCC) but I do not want to take something day after day after day.

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Birdingmom's avatar

I understand about the reluctance to order from India or elsewhere. So far people I know have had success. My friends have gotten ivermectin from India, in fact one got her order this week and she placed the order 10/22. I placed an order w/the same place recently. I take 250mg. of quercetin daily as does my husband. Here's a link for the Florida Covid Summit from 6 November. Toward the end there is a question/answer time and one doctor, Bruce Boros came to the microphone and said he's taken ivermectin prophylactically for 16 months and has never felt better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAdIYxvSYU&t=279s This is SEVEN hours! but you can skim through it and find the speakers you want to hear. It is really worth watching.

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arthur brogard's avatar

yep, I got some and sampled and I really think I feel better for it ! Like, nothing to do with covid. There's no covid here. Perhaps I had some internal parasites and it's killed them? Perhaps it's good for us in other ways?

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Birdingmom's avatar

Well, it's one of the safest medicines out there, so it's not going to hurt you! I saw another commenter some weeks ago who used Indiamart. It looked kind of intimidating to me so I went with buyivermectin.us which is what someone else used. People are REALLY getting shafted by pharmacies in the US. That's if they can get it filled too. I've used GoodRx for what we got, but CVS filled part of the script and then shafted me for the rest - $19 for 8 3mg. pills! I bought 100 12mg. pills at the site above for $80 plus $30 shipping.

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shasta's avatar

Thanks!! I will listen to that in the office. The thing is, did your friends get IVM or something else? That is my main concern.

I have come to a conclusion regarding the medicines I need. Now I have to take the next step, try to find them. I will visit costco to see if their quercetine fits. And then, regarding IVM, you can substitute it with hidroxicloroquine, maybe be HCQ is easier hereтАж

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Mara's avatar

You might have more luck getting Bimectin (the horse paste, which is pure ivermectin & perfectly ok for humans if you make sure you adjust the dose) - that is what I did, here in Australia where IVM is also not available & they are very strict about importing drugs. Also, I got bulk Ascorbic Acid and Quercetin from ebay - these are not considered pharmaceuticals (not yet!) so there is not the same concern from Customs.

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Birdingmom's avatar

They got ivermectin. I've not looked into HCQ much. McCullough and others talk about many other drugs that can be used in place of Iv or HCQ. Zelenko used HCQ until Cuomo banned it and that's how he found quercetin. Zinc needs a mechanism to get into the cells to stop virus replication and that's how Iv, HCQ and Quercetin function. Like they all say, it's good to have a covid preparedness kit ready so if you do get infected you're not scrambling. The best thing you can do is build up your immune system and I keep hearing Dr. Ryan Cole say to avoid sugar and high fructose corn syrup - the favorites of Americans which is why 40% are obese. Vitamin D is foundational. I'd encourage you to use one protocol and stick with it as there are a bunch out there and it starts getting confusing.

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Charles's avatar

Thank you all!

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shasta's avatar

Yes. But I wanted to study all of them. That is how I reach the conclusion that quercetine cannot substitute IVM/HCQ if you are very sick. I will follow your advice with sugar. Vitamine D do not know how to proceed. The weather is here very nice and the sun shines a lot even in winter. I try to walk in the sun everyday but I do not know if that is enough. A test is annoying (blood test) so maybe I am taking supplements.

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Birdingmom's avatar

I don't know how to advise on Spain and Vitamin D. You should research that. We are at 41 degrees latitude and I just increased my Vit D to 6-7000IU daily. I was taking 5-6000IU. My 25-hydroxy Vit D level is 75 which is awesome. My doctor is captured by Big Pharma though and told me to stop supplementing again this year. I ignore her. My pharmacist who I trust, wants everyone at 70-80. I'm happy to pay what my insurance won't cover to know my level. Isn't it stupid though that Vit D is so foundational to one's immune system that health insurance companies won't pay for the test??!! It's because our US health system is all about SICKNESS, not WELLNESS. Okay, I'm starting to rant....but I just looked at a world map and Madrid is about the same latitude - 41, so you should be supplementing through the winter months at least. I hope that helps! ЁЯЩП

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Charles's avatar

NO, keep ranting. It makes me sick to my stomach that people are literally trying to stop others from being well.

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shasta's avatar

But the weather is not only about latitude. Here it is very sunny the whole year. I have to check if the winter sun is strong enough, though. But, still, taking some supplements during the winter sounds reasonable. I already have them from Costco.

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