That is an interesting attitude. Although I hate living in CA, now, land of the Gavinator and all his mindless edicts, I have to fight harder than people living in red states. When I go into a store without a mask, which I did at three locations today, and one yesterday, it is a crazy rebellious act, and I am ALWAYS the only one doing …
That is an interesting attitude. Although I hate living in CA, now, land of the Gavinator and all his mindless edicts, I have to fight harder than people living in red states. When I go into a store without a mask, which I did at three locations today, and one yesterday, it is a crazy rebellious act, and I am ALWAYS the only one doing this. I have had to learn who my local supervisors are, to make my opinions known re mandates; I have had to leave a job that is mandating the toxic gene therapy, because i also resist their bs accommodations. The costs of my standing up for basic bodily autonomy and constitutionally protected rights are far higher, in this state. I wonder how many big talkers from red states would stand up for freedom if they were in a place where they were one of the only ones doing it. Not saying they wouldn't, but it is a pressure of both (an illegal, faux) law and of the entire local culture, going against the freedom-lover, here. That's not nothing.
Being unconcerned about "proof of" papers/passes seems unwise, naive, and frankly, irresponsible. It is like censorship--one day they will come for what YOU said. One day there will be a box your didn't check, and access will be denied. Some people are more comfortable during this hard time than others are. And I respect the desire to create parallel societies/institutions, and advocate for it in some instances (like healthcare, for sure). But there is also the idea of, don't cede ground. It is OUR country, it is OUR Constitution, the politicians are supposed to SERVE us. if we don't work with this then we are just rolling over, if we don't have a better plan/. Which, sorry but "parallel" and "move to the country, go off grid" are just not well-thought-out enough.
As several other posters say: "You can't comply your way out of tyranny."
And Imma copy this one again, because it is correct:
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Parallel societies will run parallel for only so long. Both standing your ground and building the alternative structures are equally important. In the end, there will be the inevitable resolution, anyway, and it is absolutely essential getting ready for it. I appreciate your position.
I am very pleased to meet you. You have my great admiration. And yes, I'm in a deep blue state, I am surrounded by compliers and people who think it is just fine. I am thinking of retiring, if and when I can (soon I hope) and joining the Resistance.
Chicago voters deserve what they get. Honestly the vax papers are some of the least of their worries. It is a rather naive reading of my comment to think I would not be concerned about this. Of course I am concerned which is why I am leaving.
I could not give less of a crap about Marxists and their children. Let them live where vax papers are required. The rest of us will not bankroll their lifestyles.
In fact I would consider myself more rebellious than you are because I am moving. Not staying. Why are you still supporting Marxist policies with your tax dollars?
That is an interesting attitude. Although I hate living in CA, now, land of the Gavinator and all his mindless edicts, I have to fight harder than people living in red states. When I go into a store without a mask, which I did at three locations today, and one yesterday, it is a crazy rebellious act, and I am ALWAYS the only one doing this. I have had to learn who my local supervisors are, to make my opinions known re mandates; I have had to leave a job that is mandating the toxic gene therapy, because i also resist their bs accommodations. The costs of my standing up for basic bodily autonomy and constitutionally protected rights are far higher, in this state. I wonder how many big talkers from red states would stand up for freedom if they were in a place where they were one of the only ones doing it. Not saying they wouldn't, but it is a pressure of both (an illegal, faux) law and of the entire local culture, going against the freedom-lover, here. That's not nothing.
Being unconcerned about "proof of" papers/passes seems unwise, naive, and frankly, irresponsible. It is like censorship--one day they will come for what YOU said. One day there will be a box your didn't check, and access will be denied. Some people are more comfortable during this hard time than others are. And I respect the desire to create parallel societies/institutions, and advocate for it in some instances (like healthcare, for sure). But there is also the idea of, don't cede ground. It is OUR country, it is OUR Constitution, the politicians are supposed to SERVE us. if we don't work with this then we are just rolling over, if we don't have a better plan/. Which, sorry but "parallel" and "move to the country, go off grid" are just not well-thought-out enough.
As several other posters say: "You can't comply your way out of tyranny."
And Imma copy this one again, because it is correct:
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Martin Niemöller
Parallel societies will run parallel for only so long. Both standing your ground and building the alternative structures are equally important. In the end, there will be the inevitable resolution, anyway, and it is absolutely essential getting ready for it. I appreciate your position.
I am very pleased to meet you. You have my great admiration. And yes, I'm in a deep blue state, I am surrounded by compliers and people who think it is just fine. I am thinking of retiring, if and when I can (soon I hope) and joining the Resistance.
Chicago voters deserve what they get. Honestly the vax papers are some of the least of their worries. It is a rather naive reading of my comment to think I would not be concerned about this. Of course I am concerned which is why I am leaving.
I could not give less of a crap about Marxists and their children. Let them live where vax papers are required. The rest of us will not bankroll their lifestyles.
In fact I would consider myself more rebellious than you are because I am moving. Not staying. Why are you still supporting Marxist policies with your tax dollars?
LOL some of us don't live in the "buying a second home" bubble. Best of luck to you though!
I’m just a corncob from Iowa. First in my family to attend college (self funded). If I can do it anyone can.