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Candis's avatar

Now you're talking. There are solid reasons for the "anti vax" movement, with tons of real evidence behind it..that the TV also told us was bogus, btw. Covid is the 2.0 version of all of those reasons.

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G Harkness's avatar

Well, I have to admit I've always been obnoxiously PRO vax, and there are some good reasons to take some vaccines. But the last couple of years have definitely made me look twice and I've had to apologize to more than a few friends for, if nothing else, believing that I had the right to tell them what they should be doing, especially with their kids.

Hey, it only took me 72 years and a "global pandemic" to get me to this realization. :-)

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Candis's avatar

Look up MTHFR gene sequencing and vaccines. It's one of the simpler intros without having to approach any of the deeper rabbit (or monkey) holes (which also have validity.) Having an MTHFR genetic marker prevents an individual's body from eliminating toxins in a timely manner. A person can have one or more of them. An unopposed fact is that there are toxic substances in vaccines, (rabid pro-vavvers will only admit to "potentially" toxic) and not just in the adjuncts. But "the science" says that those substances are eliminated from the body before they can do any damage and that they never cross the blood-brain barrier.

Back to MTHFR. The longer the toxic substances are circulating the body, the higher chances of inflammation. Inflammation, as we have come to learn from the Covid vax's, is a killer. It kills cells, organs, bodies, and if it crosses the blood- brain barrier-it kills brain cells. Look up the MMR scream, and what not uncommonly follows it. Google hides the worst of it, but you can still find some of it there.

The more MTHFR genes a person has, the more likely they will suffer the effects of repeatedly injected toxins, at any time, in any number of ways per individual.

It doesn't stop in childhood. There is evidence that the effects work overtime on the mitochondria. So after say 15-20 years of mitochondrial assault, hundreds of chat boards spring up online chock full of young people that are truly suffering and have been diagnosed with one form of immune system dysfunction or another..so much so that they can barely get through the day. And no one believes them, because they cant see anything wrong with their eyes. But as a whole, we have been ignoring what is right in front of us for a long time anyway.

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Tigerkatze's avatar

I was too until kids. I now understand why some people choose none - im tolerant and agree to disagree. ItтАЩs a calculated risk either way and you choose the lesser evil I suppose. I perked my ears when I had kids in the USA and noticed the vast delta to my EU kiddo schedule where kids did jsut fine. My kids are mostly vaccinated but not by cdc standard, but by euro standard ;). I would love after this Covid craziness to have a new level of honesty and transparency in place of the all vaccines are perfect, letтАЩs mandate it.

I did end up with one dose of mRNA due to work, have a neuro effect now (and was super healthy before!), quit, and found a new job sans mandate. I once was pro all vaxxes, then just pro transparency and choice. Still am.

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IvyRose's avatar

good luck. stay free of that mRna poison..to be here for your family.

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Katie Andraski's avatar

My horse had a newer five way vax and within a week things went wrong, but not in a way you could say it was the vaccine. But I truly have to wonder.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

What is the new 5-way? (Still doing the 4-way in my parts)

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Katie Andraski's avatar

I don't remember all that it protected against. Rabies was one, which is a vaccine I do want. I think West Nile was in there. Maybe it was the four way. My horse was an EPM horse and my new vet said he's seen problems with West Nile and EPM horses. I should be getting her histopathology report anytime. She died about a month later. It all started with a nephropsplenic entrapment which isn't related to vaccines. But I still wonder.

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Sara Baldwin's avatar

My horses legs always alarmingly stocked up after combined vaccinations so we started splitting them up which worked better.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

I worried with the 4-ways, but both my horses have been ok so far.

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Candis's avatar

Inflammation. It's maddness.

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Katie Andraski's avatar

Yes. Her kidneys were angry in a few days. Her necropsy showed they had infarcts. She had other stuff wrong too.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

I'm sorry for your loss.

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Katie Andraski's avatar

Thanks it was awful. The local clinic I worked with was great. But they thought the university clinic could help her, but I don't think I will ever take an animal there again.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

I don't trust any of the larger hospitals or clinics any more, for my dogs or horses. Arrogance & expensive equipment to pay for.

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Katie Andraski's avatar

The woman I dealt with was very arrogant and hard.

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