so, first it was “get a vaccine so you don’t get covid and you protect others.”
then it was “get a vaccine so you are protected from covid and don’t get super sick.”
now it’s “get vaccinated so you can go get covid and be protected?”
look, i’m just a good kitten and not a social theorist or anything, but are you people seriously falling for this?
because if you are, i think maybe i need to find a safer way to open cans of cat food than having humans around…
i think maybe you’re mistaking some crazy people for “experts”…
“Prepare yourself to be infected and don’t “freak out” if you do catch it when lockdowns end, they said.
“You might want to get it, you definitely want to get it. You definitely want to be vaccinated before you get it, because if you’re vaccinated your risk of death goes down,” said Prof. Collignon.
Prof. Bartlett said: “It’s immunity you want supported by the vaccine but then sort of topped up, by circulation and that’s really is what’s going to ultimately lead to make this turn this virus into basically an endemic, common cold causing virus, and that’s what you want it to be”.
I seriously think there is a smoke-filled, leather-laden room where the string-pullers are doubled-over guffawing as they watch filmstrips of people trying to eat through masks, hugging through plastic barriers, and parroting their ever-increasingly ludicrous talking points.
It's funny that all of a sudden, there's movement on the OSHA rule right after Gov. Abbott bans employer vaccine mandates in Texas.
My theory (and I think el gato malo referred to this recently) is that the plan probably was for there never to be a rule - just give companies an excuse to do it on their own. The "rule" could not be challenged since it wasn't official.
Abbott forced the issue - now the rule has to actually be issued and will be subject to court review (where it will likely lose).
A nationwide injunction against the OSHA rule will make it much tougher for companies to justify mandating this vaccine. Abbott forcing Biden to issue this rule is a really great move.
You understand this is the flailing around burning sage phase of the "experts", we have reached the voodoo witchdoctor level. They know there "vaccines" are not vaccines. they don't stop infection, they don't stop transmission and they are only about 50% effective in preventing hospitalization or death and yet they have turned Australia into a fascist bio-police state for nothing and here in America we are about halfway to the Australia level of insanity. Meanwhile big pharma is cackling with glee while they make huge profits on a useless "vaccine". And the experts are not going to do a mia culpa and admit we are pretty much at the same level as cavemen hiding in a cave as the lions roar outside when it comes to a force of nature like a virus.
The last I’ve heard (Canada) was “get vaccinated so we do not discriminate you at every turn and corner” - nothing about public or personal health any more. The masks are coming down.
How about just cut out the middle man, forget vaccines for everyone or at least for those not in the small percentage of high risk population, and take the hundreds of billions saved on vaccines, masks, plexiglass shields, useless pcr tests etc to treat people who actually become seriously ill? Sort of like the old days - treat those who are ill and leave the rest alone to live their lives. It’s a crazy radical idea, but it just might work. Oh, I forgot, how would the drug companies, mask and plexiglass makers, testers and hysteria hucksters like Fauci et al make decent livings? Never mind.
This is actually a stroke of genius that benefits the vaccine hucksters. What this does, effectively, is allow continued marketing of the "lessened symptoms" trope and *simultaneously* mitigate the obvious fact that the vaccines do not work as "vaccines" should be expected to work. The only downside is if this type of behavior also gets a person a pass off the booster shot merry-go-round. Pfizer would NOT want that! You probably would suggest that SARS-CoV-2 is already endemic, and I would agree, but who needs facts at a time like this!
The article assumes that the vaccinated will react to a live infection the way "normal", unvaccinated people do.
This hope may prove to be misplaced. The vaccine is known to "reprogram" the innate immune system. Normally, the immune system can respond to a novel pathogen, like my own immune system did a year ago, kill off the virus and develop a memory of it with the antibodies.
With immune systems modified by the mRNA vaccines, it is entirely possible that the only protection is the fake antibodies and not the entire depth of the immune system, with the killer cells, memory cells etc.
On the subreddit /r/COVID19Positive, I saw reports of fully vaxxed people catching Covid TWICE.
In other words, the vaxxed may never develop lasting, innate immunity to Covid even if they catch it.
I've been badgering people into catching covid for months now to 'protect the community', but it seems that Karen isn't interested in doing the ONLY thing she can to ensure she's not passing the virus on. Karen is pretty selfish, isn't she?
Narrative shift. Natural immunity is showing to be very good. Booster buy is waning. They need to get ahead. Only way to not ruin the support of the vaccinated is to say they are double plus good.
The fact is we were all probably better off simply taking aspirin than these mRNA injections from the start of this politically induced pandemic used to make Bill Gates richer.
…………New research from George Washington University has determined that treating COVID patients with aspirin reduced the risk of severe illness by nearly half.
The report noted that an aspirin regimen in more than 400 COVID-19 patients in hospitals across the United States cut the need for ventilation by 44%, slashed ICU admission by 43%, and reduced overall in-hospital mortality rates by 47%.
Dr. Jonathan Chow, one of the study’s researchers, said, “As we learned about the connection between blood clots and COVID-19, we knew that aspirin — used to prevent stroke and heart attack — could be important for COVID-19 patients. Our research found an association between low-dose aspirin and decreased severity of COVID-19 and death.”
Looks like vindication for what was tinfoil conspiracy theory around Event 201 and digital passports when we were hearing "two weeks to flatten the curve and spare the hospitals chaos." Even with Cuomo stacking infected patients in nursing homes NYC never did use the Central Park hospital or semi-truck morgues for anything but fear porn media reports.
Gotta call it a tie between James Corbett and Whitney Webb covering the pandemic players with the backstory. It would be remiss not to add kudos and thanks to the world of statistical analysis explained by you gatito & Matthew Crawford, y'all have been safe harbor in a storm of insanity and it's priceless! <3
Truly astounding how many times the goal posts have moved. It's hard to imagine this mindset, but it's never been more clear that these petty tyrants never want this to end. All the pain and the misery this has caused, the people at the top of the food chain couldn't be happier about all of it. Despicable.
Yikes, the whiplash. We went from "it's irresponsible to encourage deliberate infection to gain better immunity" to "you definitely want to get COVID to get better immunity" awfully fast.
Understand, of course, that this is a way to legitimize coercing the naturally immune into vaccination. If we make the requirement for the vaccinated "you have to go catch COVID after vaccination to maximize immunity," then in their twisted minds they can also say "you must get vaccinated even if you have already recovered to maximize immunity." They are gearing up to mandate not just "immunity" but the greatest possible immunity even if the gain is only marginal.
99.7 - 99.9% survival rate with the China Virus.... And then, push for a vaccine that Supposedly will keep you from getting the virus, then, never mind get your vaccine and put your mask back on, now, just put your damn Mask on,Sit down shut up and get your vaccine again ?? Typical government BS !
Any half awake veterinarian knows that vaccines stop infections, kitties with impaired immune systems cannot be vaccinated out of trouble, vaccinating for respiratory illness is notoriously ineffective and getting the disease after vaccination would be called vaccine failure.
This is such a joke. I can’t believe this is the argument they are making now.
All these people, these professionals, whom I respected, they are just shams. I feel like my view of the professions and key institutions has been destroyed forever.
I saw this earlier today, but earlier this week or last week, someone on the Greg Gutfeld show was joking about how they say you should get the jab even if you've had COVID so you're double immune. He joked that if you get the jab, you should go get COVID for the same reason. And a week later, here we are.
Get Covid to protect yourself from it? Except if you've been vaxed your immune system is now hijacked and you won't generate a broad spectrum immune response to the Rona. You'll only make (useless) antibodies against the spike protein. Is there some German word for "advice that's beyond totally ignorant"? Ignoreisenadveisenschaft. There's a word now.
News flash: You can do that without the vaccine and it is best accomplished mingling with others without tear gas in the eye or a rubber bullet wound in the back. Dirtyrottencowardlybarstardos.
Is there proof to the assertion that the vaccinated have a milder disease response to Covid 19? Qualifying disease response was never part of the clinical trials.
Back in the days of olden, I hear there were measles parties.
Doh, oh yeah, super spreader events, which turns out the covid vaxxed are spreading their advanced delta by way of -- getting covid anyway and their bodies are the ones that develop the variants.
I've been taking 5-10,000 i.u. of vitamin D3 every day since the pandemic began and I haven't had anything. Not even a cold. My arm's not even sore. Am I missing something?
If you don’t think this Global One World Government COVID Pandemic was not a diabolical planned event….look at the dates and players in this event. Just a coincidence……sure.
……
The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering. The Event 201 pandemic exercise, conducted on October 18, 2019, vividly demonstrated a number of these important gaps in pandemic preparedness as well as some of the elements of the solutions between the public and private sectors that will be needed to fill them. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation jointly propose these recommendations.
Dude the guy from Germany who developed the PCR test for SARS-Cov2 said the same thing. (Drosten) he said he wants an infection to top up his immunity. No joke.
"to ultimately lead to make this turn this virus into basically an endemic, common cold causing virus, and that’s what you want it to be"
I sometimes feel that this is what it has always been (sorry for those who had complications) but the official truth was different (seriously, is there any report of death without comorbidities? What says the death was not caused by the said comorbidities?). If the official constructivists decide that the truth should be the truth rather than whatever they had in mind for the last two years, so be it, we shall live better that way.
I ain't falling for it. Healthy skepticism or downright cynicism? What befuddles me is how SO many people in my spheres have fallen for it hook, line, + sinker. And I teach at a college. What has happened to critical thinking? It shocks me.
The biological warfare pushers who created and patented coronavirus in order to get rich off their bio warfare vaccine are never going to stop manipulating the masses in their pursuit of power and wealth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihjNDf32_Ac
the vaccines preload you with an antibody, mayber that antibody gives you a lighter case than otherwise, given that you are low risks, higher with covid deaths this summer surge implies the reduced symptoms benefit mostly those who would have been okay anyway.
the issue that is neglected is b/t cell effects of the vaccines.
the ph 3 recipients are >12 mos enduring, the ones w/o booster should have a t cell survey by sampling theory against a control of non vaxxed natural immunity.
maybe that why they do not want the control group of natural immune.
As stupid as it sounds, it’s not wrong per se. in fact at the beginning they should have sold the vaccine as a way to cushion the blow of catching covid. Instead they falsely claimed it could prevent covid and prevent the spread. Now we are here facing vaccine mandates based on LIES.
This should have been the message from the start. Get the vaccine FOR YOURSELF and WHEN you get covid it will make it less risky to achieve natural immunity.
I hate to say it, but what Bartlett says seems more sensible than a *lot* of the "public health" fuckery we've heard to date. I mean, if you ignore that a healthy immune system has no problems with covid-19, ignore the huge adverse effects, ignore the *negative* efficacy after the first dose, ignore the failures of the vaccine to improve all-cause mortality/mordidity in societies that implement them. Yeah, if you ignore all that, then it almost makes sense - but only as compared to the evil bullshit of the Fauci/Wen axis.
Personally, I think we should be vaccinating everybody twice *in utero*. It's the only way to be sure. 😂
I seriously think there is a smoke-filled, leather-laden room where the string-pullers are doubled-over guffawing as they watch filmstrips of people trying to eat through masks, hugging through plastic barriers, and parroting their ever-increasingly ludicrous talking points.
It's funny that all of a sudden, there's movement on the OSHA rule right after Gov. Abbott bans employer vaccine mandates in Texas.
My theory (and I think el gato malo referred to this recently) is that the plan probably was for there never to be a rule - just give companies an excuse to do it on their own. The "rule" could not be challenged since it wasn't official.
Abbott forced the issue - now the rule has to actually be issued and will be subject to court review (where it will likely lose).
A nationwide injunction against the OSHA rule will make it much tougher for companies to justify mandating this vaccine. Abbott forcing Biden to issue this rule is a really great move.
You understand this is the flailing around burning sage phase of the "experts", we have reached the voodoo witchdoctor level. They know there "vaccines" are not vaccines. they don't stop infection, they don't stop transmission and they are only about 50% effective in preventing hospitalization or death and yet they have turned Australia into a fascist bio-police state for nothing and here in America we are about halfway to the Australia level of insanity. Meanwhile big pharma is cackling with glee while they make huge profits on a useless "vaccine". And the experts are not going to do a mia culpa and admit we are pretty much at the same level as cavemen hiding in a cave as the lions roar outside when it comes to a force of nature like a virus.
The real problem is that we still have no idea of the long term effects mRNA injections.
The last I’ve heard (Canada) was “get vaccinated so we do not discriminate you at every turn and corner” - nothing about public or personal health any more. The masks are coming down.
How about just cut out the middle man, forget vaccines for everyone or at least for those not in the small percentage of high risk population, and take the hundreds of billions saved on vaccines, masks, plexiglass shields, useless pcr tests etc to treat people who actually become seriously ill? Sort of like the old days - treat those who are ill and leave the rest alone to live their lives. It’s a crazy radical idea, but it just might work. Oh, I forgot, how would the drug companies, mask and plexiglass makers, testers and hysteria hucksters like Fauci et al make decent livings? Never mind.
This is actually a stroke of genius that benefits the vaccine hucksters. What this does, effectively, is allow continued marketing of the "lessened symptoms" trope and *simultaneously* mitigate the obvious fact that the vaccines do not work as "vaccines" should be expected to work. The only downside is if this type of behavior also gets a person a pass off the booster shot merry-go-round. Pfizer would NOT want that! You probably would suggest that SARS-CoV-2 is already endemic, and I would agree, but who needs facts at a time like this!
The article assumes that the vaccinated will react to a live infection the way "normal", unvaccinated people do.
This hope may prove to be misplaced. The vaccine is known to "reprogram" the innate immune system. Normally, the immune system can respond to a novel pathogen, like my own immune system did a year ago, kill off the virus and develop a memory of it with the antibodies.
With immune systems modified by the mRNA vaccines, it is entirely possible that the only protection is the fake antibodies and not the entire depth of the immune system, with the killer cells, memory cells etc.
On the subreddit /r/COVID19Positive, I saw reports of fully vaxxed people catching Covid TWICE.
In other words, the vaxxed may never develop lasting, innate immunity to Covid even if they catch it.
Narrative collapse. You love to see it.
I've been badgering people into catching covid for months now to 'protect the community', but it seems that Karen isn't interested in doing the ONLY thing she can to ensure she's not passing the virus on. Karen is pretty selfish, isn't she?
Nothing need be said or typed, kitty face says it all!
The COVID narrative get crazier by the day, it seems.
Never mind that even Pfizer scientists admitted that natural immunity is broader, stronger and lasts longer than from the vaccine (Project Veritas).
Narrative shift. Natural immunity is showing to be very good. Booster buy is waning. They need to get ahead. Only way to not ruin the support of the vaccinated is to say they are double plus good.
Hilarious! Except pathetic! And still they oppress and punish those with "solely" natural immunity.
The fact is we were all probably better off simply taking aspirin than these mRNA injections from the start of this politically induced pandemic used to make Bill Gates richer.
…………New research from George Washington University has determined that treating COVID patients with aspirin reduced the risk of severe illness by nearly half.
The report noted that an aspirin regimen in more than 400 COVID-19 patients in hospitals across the United States cut the need for ventilation by 44%, slashed ICU admission by 43%, and reduced overall in-hospital mortality rates by 47%.
Dr. Jonathan Chow, one of the study’s researchers, said, “As we learned about the connection between blood clots and COVID-19, we knew that aspirin — used to prevent stroke and heart attack — could be important for COVID-19 patients. Our research found an association between low-dose aspirin and decreased severity of COVID-19 and death.”
Or... and just hear me out on this...
Howaboutgofuckyourself?
Looks like vindication for what was tinfoil conspiracy theory around Event 201 and digital passports when we were hearing "two weeks to flatten the curve and spare the hospitals chaos." Even with Cuomo stacking infected patients in nursing homes NYC never did use the Central Park hospital or semi-truck morgues for anything but fear porn media reports.
Gotta call it a tie between James Corbett and Whitney Webb covering the pandemic players with the backstory. It would be remiss not to add kudos and thanks to the world of statistical analysis explained by you gatito & Matthew Crawford, y'all have been safe harbor in a storm of insanity and it's priceless! <3
Truly astounding how many times the goal posts have moved. It's hard to imagine this mindset, but it's never been more clear that these petty tyrants never want this to end. All the pain and the misery this has caused, the people at the top of the food chain couldn't be happier about all of it. Despicable.
Yikes, the whiplash. We went from "it's irresponsible to encourage deliberate infection to gain better immunity" to "you definitely want to get COVID to get better immunity" awfully fast.
Understand, of course, that this is a way to legitimize coercing the naturally immune into vaccination. If we make the requirement for the vaccinated "you have to go catch COVID after vaccination to maximize immunity," then in their twisted minds they can also say "you must get vaccinated even if you have already recovered to maximize immunity." They are gearing up to mandate not just "immunity" but the greatest possible immunity even if the gain is only marginal.
99.7 - 99.9% survival rate with the China Virus.... And then, push for a vaccine that Supposedly will keep you from getting the virus, then, never mind get your vaccine and put your mask back on, now, just put your damn Mask on,Sit down shut up and get your vaccine again ?? Typical government BS !
Perfect picture at the end.
I wonder if this is culling the weak minded from the herd.
That vaccine is dangerous and pandora’s box.
You need to publish a book of your cat memes. The BEST.
Where's the kitty hissing fit, snarl and swish of claws? We need it to go with the picture!!!
Any half awake veterinarian knows that vaccines stop infections, kitties with impaired immune systems cannot be vaccinated out of trouble, vaccinating for respiratory illness is notoriously ineffective and getting the disease after vaccination would be called vaccine failure.
Human doctors need to go to vet school?
This is such a joke. I can’t believe this is the argument they are making now.
All these people, these professionals, whom I respected, they are just shams. I feel like my view of the professions and key institutions has been destroyed forever.
And maybe that is a good thing.
I saw this earlier today, but earlier this week or last week, someone on the Greg Gutfeld show was joking about how they say you should get the jab even if you've had COVID so you're double immune. He joked that if you get the jab, you should go get COVID for the same reason. And a week later, here we are.
Get Covid to protect yourself from it? Except if you've been vaxed your immune system is now hijacked and you won't generate a broad spectrum immune response to the Rona. You'll only make (useless) antibodies against the spike protein. Is there some German word for "advice that's beyond totally ignorant"? Ignoreisenadveisenschaft. There's a word now.
The whole point of vaxx was that IT will protect you from Covid. Now that they know that it doesn’t, you go get the virus. Come again?
News flash: You can do that without the vaccine and it is best accomplished mingling with others without tear gas in the eye or a rubber bullet wound in the back. Dirtyrottencowardlybarstardos.
Also... meow.
They must think we fell off the turnip truck yesterday.
Or is that that catnip truck?
Is there proof to the assertion that the vaccinated have a milder disease response to Covid 19? Qualifying disease response was never part of the clinical trials.
I have spent the last 10 months reading this https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
Dr VandenBossche is quite impressive.
Fauci is a fraud. He really should retire, or just leave. His expiration date is long gone and he is just getting more and more rotten every day.
Back in the days of olden, I hear there were measles parties.
Doh, oh yeah, super spreader events, which turns out the covid vaxxed are spreading their advanced delta by way of -- getting covid anyway and their bodies are the ones that develop the variants.
Ooops
Joe Rogan floated this theory first
I've been taking 5-10,000 i.u. of vitamin D3 every day since the pandemic began and I haven't had anything. Not even a cold. My arm's not even sore. Am I missing something?
I wish I could say this situation is unreal, but it's all too real.
Vaccines cause retardation
If you don’t think this Global One World Government COVID Pandemic was not a diabolical planned event….look at the dates and players in this event. Just a coincidence……sure.
……
The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering. The Event 201 pandemic exercise, conducted on October 18, 2019, vividly demonstrated a number of these important gaps in pandemic preparedness as well as some of the elements of the solutions between the public and private sectors that will be needed to fill them. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation jointly propose these recommendations.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
Imagine what the narrative is going to be 6 weeks from now if the Fall/Winter wave comes?
Dude the guy from Germany who developed the PCR test for SARS-Cov2 said the same thing. (Drosten) he said he wants an infection to top up his immunity. No joke.
"to ultimately lead to make this turn this virus into basically an endemic, common cold causing virus, and that’s what you want it to be"
I sometimes feel that this is what it has always been (sorry for those who had complications) but the official truth was different (seriously, is there any report of death without comorbidities? What says the death was not caused by the said comorbidities?). If the official constructivists decide that the truth should be the truth rather than whatever they had in mind for the last two years, so be it, we shall live better that way.
I ain't falling for it. Healthy skepticism or downright cynicism? What befuddles me is how SO many people in my spheres have fallen for it hook, line, + sinker. And I teach at a college. What has happened to critical thinking? It shocks me.
New Hampshire has refused federal funds to push vaccine!
https://twitter.com/FreeStateNH/status/1448337834000142341
This is video game logic.
Get a leaky vaccine, then catch a virus and get antibodies, and they ADD TOGETHER? Like, compounded?
So, by this logic, can I drink 10 15-Hour Energy shots and stay up for a full week?
Can you skip the vax and go straight to catching the virus? NO, THAT'S CRAZY TALK!!!111
The biological warfare pushers who created and patented coronavirus in order to get rich off their bio warfare vaccine are never going to stop manipulating the masses in their pursuit of power and wealth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihjNDf32_Ac
the vaccines preload you with an antibody, mayber that antibody gives you a lighter case than otherwise, given that you are low risks, higher with covid deaths this summer surge implies the reduced symptoms benefit mostly those who would have been okay anyway.
the issue that is neglected is b/t cell effects of the vaccines.
the ph 3 recipients are >12 mos enduring, the ones w/o booster should have a t cell survey by sampling theory against a control of non vaxxed natural immunity.
maybe that why they do not want the control group of natural immune.
As stupid as it sounds, it’s not wrong per se. in fact at the beginning they should have sold the vaccine as a way to cushion the blow of catching covid. Instead they falsely claimed it could prevent covid and prevent the spread. Now we are here facing vaccine mandates based on LIES.
This should have been the message from the start. Get the vaccine FOR YOURSELF and WHEN you get covid it will make it less risky to achieve natural immunity.
I hate to say it, but what Bartlett says seems more sensible than a *lot* of the "public health" fuckery we've heard to date. I mean, if you ignore that a healthy immune system has no problems with covid-19, ignore the huge adverse effects, ignore the *negative* efficacy after the first dose, ignore the failures of the vaccine to improve all-cause mortality/mordidity in societies that implement them. Yeah, if you ignore all that, then it almost makes sense - but only as compared to the evil bullshit of the Fauci/Wen axis.
Personally, I think we should be vaccinating everybody twice *in utero*. It's the only way to be sure. 😂