I'm so frustrated. I live in NYCity. My building is a coop with many of us residents over 65--one of the highly vaccinated age groups. Our mayor has imposed severe restrictions on unvaccinated residents: no indoor entertainment, no gyms, no tennis courts, no movies, no restaurants, no theater, no sports activities. As he says, "New York is a great city, but you don't deserve to enjoy it if you are unvaccinated." WOW. And most of this city's highly Democratic constituency are fine with these restrictions. I have friends who tell me, "It's fine if you decide to be unvaccinated, but then you have to be able to accept the public health restrictions that go with your decision." In the lobby of my building I overhear three of my neighbors cheerfully gossiping about where they got their boosters and being really pleased that they have topped up their immunity. Vaccines, boosters, mandates, passports are accepted as just a way of life. No big deal. Maybe I would feel the same way if I didn't feel so vulnerable since I have had life long hypersensitivities to drugs. Evidence based medicine hasn't served me well, so I'm definitely not ready to begin taking another lifelong drug.
Hang in there. I know exactly how you feel. I'm 71 and no jabs for me. I live in Canada in the beautiful province of British Columbia and I am going through the same thing. Vaccine Passports came into effect in October in my province. Out of 20 people in our extended family I am the only one to refuse this "vaccine". At the end of October my partner celebrated his 81st birthday. His family took him out for a lunch celebration and I had to stay home. Last weekend I was unable to go to my 12 year old grandson's hockey tournament. This isn't how I thought I would be spending my golden years! I also have a brother and a cousin who refuse to see me unless I get the shots. The rest of the family is fine with my decision.
It's this site and responses like yours that make me feel part of a community. I'm grateful for your shared experience. I'm 79. My husband was 10 years older and passed away about 4 years ago. We were both hypochondriacs, so I bet he would not accept vaccines. We both avoided flu vaccines. We didn't have children, so I don't have to worry about getting excluded. My brother visited me recently from Arizona, and we ate together at an outdoor restaurant. Lots of my friends forget that I'm unvaccinated because I seem so normal, and I don't have horns and a tail.
Yes, hang in there. Trust your gut. I’m a physician, and so-called “evidence-based” medicine isn’t all it’s been cracked up to be. I would never take one of the anti COVID agents. And, this will be the first year I will not be getting a flu shot.
Take ivermectin prophylactically. I do. I’m 68. I moved my business out of NYC to LI after 41 yrs. I moved myself to my home Upstate and work remote. I now go into NYC every 8-9 weeks and reverse commute to LI. I no longer enjoy the city. For the moment I’ll keep my co-op apt. I’ve been taking Ivermectin for 18 months. FLCCC.net tells you what you need to do and how to get Ivermectin. Remember you are living in the epicenter of Covid fear and virtue signaling.
You are clearly not thinking taking ivermectin. Save yourself the heartache. Get the jab save your life and mine. Take a look at the two folks still stuck in Iron lungs from polio. This is not a joke the jab works. I have mixed connetive tissue disease and heart failure. I got all three shots. It works.What kills me is you would rather orally take poison than get a vaccine. You will take a poison that is not proven for anything other than putting folks in the hospital. But, you will not take the jab that is working and proven..Ummmm???
All for taking the jab if that works for you. But what about ivermectin is poison? You do yourself and your argument great disservice. Ivermectin, in proper dosage, is not poisonous and heavily prescribed for over a decade. It does not have an experimental use authorization required by the FDA to be commonly administered before all tests have been concluded. You should do some research on this, you'll be surprised what you learn about ivermectin as well as other prophylactics demonized for daring to be considered as therapeutics.
I'd also recommend you do some research on hard data coming out of europe and Israel on what's happening. More and more European countries are cancelling shots for children, removing masks for school age children and rapidly changing their approaches. Get out of the US mainstream media bubble and get more up to date on what's happening around the world. The US is not a leader in producing healthy citizens.
One last thing...if you look at the latest data on predicted and excess deaths, excess deaths vs predicted are the highest ever, higher in 2021 than in 2020. Why would that be? How is it possible more Americans are dying than ever? Last year, covid was at fault, now, with majority of citizens vaccinated, why are Americans dying at record rates? Hmmm...this tells me that something has gone wrong with the health policy per the FDA and govt.
i think what kills you is that your colon has a direct bypass to your cerebellum. now, allow me to explain my (not proven) theory. ivermectin is stuff given to kill tapeworms and other worms. usually kids get it in the country, and the stuff has been used for ages to kill the worms. and also in livestock. worse it could happen is that you get the worms killed. now, since you have that direct bypass, the ivermectin would not be metabolized in the gut, but go straight through the meninge and affect the brain directly. and since your brain appears to be a fat parasitic worm, it could very well be fatal in your case. stick to the jab, which i'm sure don't have any neurological effects. oh wait.....
Susan, for all we know you are a paid "influencer". Or, perhaps you are paid to peruse the internet for sites where people are know to be against receiving coerced medical attention when they are otherwise healthy. We do know.
We do know that you think a disease for which the team who discovered it and turned it into a treatment won the Nobel Prize for it in 2015. Yes, 2015, six short years ago. That "poison" is saving thousands of people suffering from River Blindness.
What kills me is the same thing that kills you: sin. To pretend it is anything more or less is a idol worship.
But, you will not believe that God loves you more than your government and that has been proven by your complete evangelization for the government-big-pharma fusion, your idol.
How do we know the jab works? Is it because vaccinated people have fewer cases of Covid, and are less likely to be hospitalized or die? These signs of efficacy seem to be diminishing as scientists seem to now agree that vaccines now offer much less protection. Why do we need anything to save our lives? Most people don't get Covid. Most people don't die from Covid. Covid is easily cured when treated early outside of the hospital. Why is polio relevant? It's a totally different disease. I'm so happy that you didn't get adverse reactions from Covid vaccination--so many people are not so lucky. Ivermectin has been proven safe and effective for treating parasitic disease. It is used in many nursing homes in the United States for treating scabies, and is used without a prescription (that's how safe it is) for decades in India and Africa for treating disease--including Covid. Merck, the manufacturer of Ivermectin, even boasts of its safety in treating parasitic infections. I am just now listening to a fascinating lecture by Sally Mallon about germ theory. https://www.bitchute.com/video/aP92ilqhPTHI/ She states the consequences of germ theory are "Kill each germ with a toxic drug. Prevent each germ with a toxic vaccine." The Lancet in a recent paper reported 15 deaths in a nursing home--possibly from Ivermectin. Meanwhile the CDC has confirmed over 8000 deaths from toxic mRNA vaccines in the last 18 months. You got vaccinated and didn't get sick. I take Ivermectin every week, and also didn't get poisoned or sick. I guess that proves we are both right. Vaccination works! Ivermectin also works! To each his own poison.
Warfarin is rat poison yet is widely prescribed as a blood thinner. Does that make those doctors potential murderers? Quinine can be toxic yet it's used in medicine and adds flavor to my G&T. I most likely poison myself more with the G than the T. So, don't be ignorant. Ivermectin is successfully used all over the world to treat humans and animals.
I live in NYC also. It is truly appalling, all of it, but especially the enthusiasm for jabbing kids, and a perfect example of the extreme and growing degeneracy of the entire area.
Yes, I see such happiness as cable news celebrates the authorization of vaccines for younger and younger children. I'm glad that you share my outrage for exposing young children to such risks.
"In order to tame people into the desired pattern, victims must be brought to a point where they have lost their alert consciousness and mental awareness. Freedom of discussion and free intellectual exchange hinder conditioning. Feelings of terror, feelings of fear and hopelessness, of being alone, of standing with one's back to the wall, must be instilled."
From the book; The Rape of the Mind, by Joost Meerloo.
I hate to say it, but as the sorting accelerates, NYC will only get worse. I personally know almost a dozen NYC refugees who moved to Texas over the last two years. You’ll have to follow them or live in clown world.
She is everywhere. On many substacks I subscribe to. I had a good laugh the other day. Someone commented on her being on a site and said " Paula. Put your clothes on and go read a book".
Paula? She's over on Alex Berenson's substack too. I just told her she needs a non binary psychologist. Or psychiatrist. (You sort of had to have been there, LOL!)
Congratulations! Welcome aboard :) Seriously, so many people I know, that I thought were logical and smart enough to know better, have fallen into this horrible life of useless, harmful killer shots and following mandates and spewing insults at the unvaxxed.
Don't worry. We naturally unvaxxed do not discriminate or shun the politically unvaxxed. We are not a cult. Good luck and get some Ivermectin. Jimmy Dore also got Moderna and had nasty side effect that lingered for months. He's on Ivermectin now as that deals with the spike proteins great.
I wanted to urge us not to practice medicine here. Then it occurs to me that most of the medical business no longer seems to practice medicine, either. 😐
I had the same discussion with people telling me to "Stop playing doctor" and my reply is "I'll be happy to if the doctors want to go back to playing doctor".
I also add that "If they are not doing early treatment then they are not worth listening to". Always point out people like Dr John Campbell who is very pro-vax but also pro-early treatment.
I have a friend who has relatives in Australia. He is a caring individual. But he sees no problem with the Australian government's tyrannical measures to impose lockdowns in the holy grail quest for 0 Covid. When I told him the quarantine areas reminded me of concentration camps, he got very angry. "You have to understand this is in the service of preserving health!" A few days ago he informed me (with pride?) you would never be allowed to travel freely outside if you were here. He plans taking a booster soon. He also states (with pride?) that Australia is succeeding in imposing vaccine mandates, has gotten 80% vaccinated, and hopes to soon reach 90% --greater than our pathetic warp speed. He sees the vaccines as tremendously effective. HOW CAN HE BELIEVE THIS? I alternate between praying for his health, and hoping I see him repent with both Covid and adverse vaccine reactions.
I think we are all bouncing back and forth between wanting to make the ones that won't see, SEE, and also proving to the ones that are being indignant, then taken down (ah ha, see?), but then hoping the same bad things won't happen to our beloved parents, children, siblings, friends...they believe they are doing the right thing. What are we to do?
My family is the same (except my mother). My dad couldn't wait to get his booster and called vitamin D "quackery". My mother and brother came down with covid and my mum took Ivermectin and was better the next day. My brother refused the "horse medicine" and would "defeat it with his protection from the vaccine". He was sick for another week. All these people are lost. Mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and ultimately, physically. Most of them won't lift a finger when the oppression becomes full-blown persecution.
I'm glad your family recovered. Some people even are happy to get disabled from vaccines (proves vaccination works), and also happy to get Covid (would have been worse without vaccination). I'm not sure they are lost. I bet if we took control of all the media and had a constant stream of propaganda such as Covid is weakening, new early treatment cures Covid, Ivermectin, fluvoxamine, etc. are safe and effective, vitamin D a great prophylactic, with catchy slogans such as "Back to normality!" "Freedom," etc. Oh, and we have to keep publishing low or declining rates of Covid and lower rates of hospitalization. (Not sure we can promise low rates of hospitalization, though, with high rates of vaccination.)
I have friends and family there, they're not necessarily fully on board but seem reluctant to admit to the full maliciousness of the current situation. It's all happened since the lock-downs that came after May. Before that the vaccines were available but there was little uptake.
Quote attributed to, I believe, Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. He was a man who had more than a little bit of first hand experience with perhaps the worst totalitarian regime of modern times, the Soviet Union.
I recall reading that the Nazis only ever managed to fool about 40% of the German population, meaning the majority knew what they were all along, yet they managed to seize dictatorial control of that society. A credulous minority can pose a real danger to a free society.
Dennis Prager said something profound on his show the other day, he was talking about the flight attendant who kicked the 2 year old with asthma gasping for breath off the plane because he wouldn't put a mask on. It's the regular people who insist on enforcing irrational rules who are the most terrifying, especially when the arbitrary and nonsensical rules hurt another person. It is no exaggeration to say that people like that flight attendant are precisely how mass atrocities are able to occur.
Authoritarians are like mold spores, always floating around out there looking for conditions in which they can fester. A credulous, compliant society provides a Petri dish for any wannabe dictator.
The thing is, my whole life, I've never known people to be THIS compliant. People used to stand their ground a bit more. They used to agree to disagree. Maybe my job has been more of a hard-sell compared to mainstream medicine, but when patients struggle to do their hamstring stretches or drink more water, but they will go out to get an experimental medical procedure, then I really know the world is screwed!
I agree with you. Unfortunately FEAR is a great way to get compliance. And false promises about getting back to normal if you just give in. I can't believe that the vaxxed population isn't really angry for being betrayed.
Cognitive dissonance. They can't stomach the thought that they've been played for chumps and possibly screwed up the rest of their lives, so they won't even entertain the possibility that they effed up.
They’ve kicked the fight out of everyone. Jobs disappeared over seas thanks to NAFTA, poor policies in the Middle East, created wars, terrorist/9-11, being called racist, homophobes- hypocrisy abounding, creating policies that pull families apart instead of creating stronger families, diminishing the importance of religious freedom, demonizing law enforcement & military, this list can go on and on, our population has been slammed and pushed around by politicians, media and corporate giants for so long, people are afraid to stand up, cause they know they’ll get plummeted- it’s just a general sense of hopelessness.
I would say that about 95% of my patients have been jabbed. Of that, less than half were HAPPY to have it. The other half just did it coz so-and-so said they should have it (dr, govt, friend, family etc) or it was to keep their job or some other such reason. If it was truly up to them, less than half of my patients would've lined up for it. Plenty don't like what's going on, but they feel they have no CHOICE...so they had it. I'm dead-set against it and no-one is going to make me have it. No-one.
So yeah, your 40% of the German population sounds about right. I will have to ask my husband as he is a history buff!
Yup. I definitely agree with your sarcasm there, Guttermouth!
Additionally, forcing many to relocate is also part of their plan. It's like kicking an anthill -- they simply move elsewhere and many of them (not all but many) take their stinkin' political leanings with them to the previously uncontaminated regions. More power at the polls and schools and businesses and hospitals and police stations and courts and ... ad nauseum.
Plus, it reduces the over-population and empties the prime real estate in the original regions and strengthens the animosity / political power in the stay-behinds.
I moved, and I could give a crap about the stay-behinds. My vote was already worthless, at least now me and my family are happy and I don't have to deal with covid tyranny.
You've hit, I think, on two of their key concepts. Whether deliberately planned or not, vax mandates in a particular city or State of course have the effect of driving out the non-compliant, who probably are mostly political opponents anyway. Those that remain tend to be the docile sheep, perfect for a local despot to lord over. Finally, there is the convenient side effect of businesses, homes and other immobile property that may be on sale at distress prices. Guess who buys it up? To some extent, this explains the decay - renewal cycle of certain areas of large urban areas, for example South Central LA post-riots (1990s) or the gentrification of Washington D.C.
Satan, I wouldn't exactly call BLM or ANTIFA "docile" yet they both serve their liberal, socialistic Democratic masters quite well. Those two groups probably don't believe the same things as their masters, but they certainly serve them and will be amongst the "stay-behinds" to take over the high-rent "distressed" properties as if THEY were the kings.
the nazis had the billionaires like the kruppe family, they had a society that was used to being ruled. they beat the bolshevists and hitler did in the too huffy brown shirts who were the musce on the bolshevists. before the few woke up the gestapo had as much power as the fbi today....
If there is any saving grace of Federal agencies, it's that their, er, "employment policies" over many decades tend to indirectly select for more incompetence. Of course the agencies still have great powers, but they are both headed and staffed by people who are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
I'm losing hope. I have such bitterness and contempt for those who are still falling for the obvious lies. At this point, their ignorance has to be willful, or if not, then the gullibility of those who still believe is dangerous to us all
it is everywhere, academia, medical facilities, even walmart/target, you name it. Some take the jab to save their job, many believe it is the right thing to do for all. Ugh!! Each person has to decide what is best for themselves and family.
I hear you. I live in Covid cult central and it is insane here. The parents flock with their tiny children for the jab and celebrate their holiness and smartness. But this is just certain areas of the country. Many people aren’t buying this.
San Francisco, the a**hole of the country currently. 😝 I’m constantly shaking my head around here. My favorite must be the boostered with N95 makes and face shields in parks….. 🤦♀️
You can still visit parks? I thought that's where the homeless lived, often with considerable government subsidy. 🤪 No money? Need stuff? No problem, just loot a local store. If you take < $950 of merchandise, security won't even touch you. I've seen the videos.
I think the most totalitarian, by amount of population vaccinated, are in the West. Bulgaria & Romania are towards the bottom of vaxxed %s. Poland is around 50% by memory. Whereas Scandinavia, Ireland, the UK, France are much higher although obviously not as high as the claims.
I was having a senior moment trying to remember the name of European country with massive restrictions against the unvaccinated. I think it's Lithuania.
Sorry to have to break it to you, but it gets worse before it gets better. And many of us won't be here to see the phoenix rise. Such is life. Embrace every minute you get.
Do you think gullibility is related to desire? So many scams are based on promises that people would really like to believe. A cure for baldness, a sure fire way to make money, a way to restore youthful vigor. We have an infection described as "an existential threat, millions dying." Do you know anyone who has died of Covid? I know 2nd hand my friend's uncle died. I don't know anyone who died of vaccination or even got a terrible side effect. One friend injected her 12 year old daughter with vaccine, and was scared when the daughter got sick with fever for 3 days--gradually recovering. Damn! This mother also has an 8 year old daughter with heart problems who is eager to also get vaccinated. I hope she does not. I think willful ignorance (I typed willful illness and needed to correct it), is only because changing belief increases fear or makes it seem they won't get the fulfillment of desire. My dad desperately wanted to get married again after his 2nd wife (not my mother) died from stomach cancer. He found a woman who was eager to take his money. We all warned him she wasn't in love with him, but he wouldn't listen. "You just don't want me to be happy." He married her. We were right. He divorced her a month after the marriage. I strive not be be bitter or contemptuous, but when triggered, I get anguished, distressed, and even outraged. Recently I found I feel a little bit better why reading all the lies without believing them. I guess I don't really care--all I want is to avoid vaccination. That's my bottom line. I want to keep my money and my health. Vaccine passports and central bank control of currency threaten both. (Get vaccinated or we freeze your bank account!)
You (or someone) missed the third step in that logic: "Convincing the jabbed and mega boostered that it's actually logical that their jabs and boosters work so well that they have to avoid any contact with the never jabbed."
Pretty sure it was gaitio who first gave the example but I've used it a lot & don't remember. Expecting other folks vaccines to protect you is like thinking your umbrella won't work to protect you from rain unless everyone else uses one. It's so perfect, still polite and not a point most can't argue with.
There's no arguing with the True Believers. Our side gets many amusing (and, usually, very true) memes out of this. One of my favorites is: "Why must the unvaxxed be vaxxed to protect the vaxxed from catching a disease that the vaxx doesn't protect them from?" I recently had a real-life discussion with a TB who proudly claimed that the jabs are the most tested, best researched vaccines ever! 🙄
And yet people that I "hang with" (or used to hang with) are all on board with this...fully vaxxed, brag about their boosters (and how they felt awful afterwards) and continue to mask and shame those who don't. I can't anymore. I just can't.
i used to hope that too...then i started having conversations with people. even the ones who held out have suddenly caved...and for the most preposterous reasons...like....yoga. as if you cant do yoga at home. no you are right....you should totally poison yourself for yoga. good job taking a strong stand.
AU person here. This has happened to my mother. She's still to have her 2nd jab though. But her reasoning is mainly to see my sister's kids (grandkids). My Mum doesn't go to the pub or anything! My sister denied her seeing them because Dictator Dan said she should do this (effectively: no mask, no jab, no grandkids!). What a cow. I have explained that once Dictator Dan in Victoria gets his bill passed, he'll really BE Dictator Dan with ridiculous amounts of power available at a whim. Then 2 jabs won't be enough. It'll be 'Pop 'Til You Drop' and anyone who refuses a booster will barely be allowed to buy food from the supermarket.
I've at least asked my Mum to consider waiting until his crazy bill goes through (or hopefully doesn't...) because there'll be no point in her having a 2nd jab if she plans to refuse the boosters (she says it'll be just these 2 jabs and that's it, and she's NOT happy about it). But my Mum, like anyone else in her predicament, will get maybe 4-6 months of 'normality' (if you call it that...) and then it'll be right back to square one again...but this time it'll be even worse. So it's 'hop on the Crazy Train' or get right off it. No in between...
I think people just realise the hopelessness of it all, so they're caving now because they don't want to see themselves living in a tent in the middle of nowhere, all alone, away from society. They'd rather die IN society and feel like they're part of it than be a social outcast. Me? I couldn't care less about society. It's all gone to pot, anyhow!
Melbourne here. Dan has gone full-blown psychotic and I hardly recognize this city anymore. Almost everyone around me is completely brainwashed and it is extremely disturbing. I couldn't care less about society, either. It has been on the skids for years. Never getting these jabs. I'm standing on a pretty lonely hill at the moment, but at least I know others like you are out there!
I'm just glad there was a great big protest today! We need more of them right now. But it's ridiculous that so many people need to protest, for weeks on end, so that the political wankers might listen. I guess we'll see what happens in another week or so with the pandemic bill....fingers crossed that bill does NOT pass...or you'll start to think what's happening now is really quite pleasant!! :-(
I was in Melbourne November to January and again for a month April to May. Most of the bad stuff has happened since. Mad Jacinda is about to run NZ into a 'traffic light' system. She looks scared tbh but doesn't deserve an ounce of sympathy. I was supposedly interviewed for a film on her about 5 months ago, doubt that such a film will see the light of day anymore.
At least the pot is legal in many US states, including some where the climate is amenable to living in a tent (West Coast.) 😏 But yes, I agree that our societies seem to be stumbling down a path to oblivion. I'm not a believer, but there's that famous quote about the pathway that leads to destruction is broad and wide, and the gate is wide for the many who enter that way....
Hiya Dan, yep, we're all good. In fact we're selling our house and moving north to land we've already bought. We're taking 6-12 months off work and building a cool kit home. We have things to occupy us whilst everyone will be tearing their hair out next year! We kind of organised it this way in fact ;-) It's not quite 'escape' because we'll get back to work, but for now, it's our way of dealing with the insanity. And there are plenty of like-minded people up that way, some of whom I know! I've already got a dinner invite for when we move up there in 2 or so months!
You know, my Dad lives in California, but he's like my sister: totally pro-vax, all the way, baby! He and I don't get along much anymore. I fact, I'm hard pressed to find anything we DO agree on these days! He & his wife have thought about moving to Oregon. It's almost funny: you'd think about escaping Oregon and yet he'd think the State measures were just fine and dandy! People. Who needs them?! :-D
I work in outside sales, got the J&J early for “one and done” and because I thought it would help me get back to normal, visiting clients. Then I had a side effect so no boosters for me and no forced shots for anyone certainly not my kids!
At least I have figured out how to work remotely and made my numbers since we are not going back to office anymore.
Cardiac arrhythmia, they called it "lateral ischemia" and did a bunch of scans but could not find any blood clots anywhere. It went away on its own, fortunately, though I'm supposed to follow up regularly with a cardiologist. But it wasn't there before the shot, cleared up after, like an acute inflammation. It wasn't even found until three months after - I didn't even connect it to the shot at first, until I logged it through CDC vSafe, then I got a call from a helpful CDC rep who informed me it was NOT related. That's what got me thinking it might be connected...
The average USA double vaxxed & booster on the schedule dullard hasn't even waken up to "14 days to slow the spread" meaning forever. They listen not to Pink Floyd. The trust the government.
You know things are getting bad when even the Old Left (e.g. those recently purged from major media -- Greenwald et al) and now, apparently, even Progs, are sounding the alarm.
Are they? Give me a url! I get triggered listening to Noam Chomsky, Richard Wolff, Matt Taibbi, Katie Halper, Michael Moore blandly repeating media talking points about how it's our moral duty to get vaccinated.
I subscribe to the daily propaganda reports from Oregon Health Authority, and today’s email led with the headline, “It’s not every day you get your vaccine in a livestock barn.”
Can they get any more obvious that TPTB view us as sheep?! 🤣🤣🤣
It's at the local soup kitchen. Please ensure you have a confirmed 48 hour Let's Go Brandon Term Quotation (LGBTQ) negative test on your Woke Passport before entry.
The second part is wrong. In Israel out of 9.3 million people, 7.8 million were elligible (20+) and 6.7 took the first 2 doses. For the third 1.5 million said no and lost all their rights. That means that 5.2 million still "believe" the vaccine hype will save them.
Israel has announced shot #4 is coming so we'll se if they lose another million or two or if the rest say ENOUGH.
This is pharmaceutical nirvana! A gene therapy you have to take every six months for the rest of your life, paid for by a government who won’t negotiate drug prices! And, it reduces the surplus population! Triple crown!
These times remind me of a James Thurber quote "The hell bent get where they're going." I'm not interested in joining them but it's hard to avoid the lemming stampede.
Nonsense. I'm quite conservative in my beliefs, yet I smoked pot a lot and took acid many times in my youth butt tit hasn't effected me in the leased 🤩
Excellent "thought experiment" - had this discussion the other day with a colleague. If the vaxx doesn't prevent transmission, and emergency rooms are currently crowding with those who have the vaxx, and you think the vaxx protects you, shouldn't you be more afraid of being in public with those who are vaccinated vs non vaccinated with anti-bodies vs. non vaccinated but no antibodies. Maybe we should all wear certain hats so we know our correct congregation group. We can all huddle in three sections in restaurants:
1. Vaccinated with full boosters - green hats
2. Vaccinated partially - yellow hats
3. Non Vaccinated - anti-bodies from previous infection - orange hats
4. Non Vaccinated - no previous infection and will probably die in front of your eyes - red hats
5. Children - more likely to die in a car crash or from the flu, so they should be masked but kept separate unless they're illegal immigrants, then they can't be separated unless paid $450k as an illegal immigrant (note, you must be an illegal immigrant, you can't be a US citizen arrested for drunk driving and separated from your kids while you're in jail just because thems the rulezzzz man).
Now go shelter in place and whatever you do, don't resume your blue collar job transporting goods across the US. Inflation is transitory. No worries.
So, this vax mania is the First Rider of the Apocalypse.
This is a lighthearted tribe, and I like that, but these are consequential times.
The First Horseman has a crown and a bow. The Greek for “bow” is “toxon”—where we get “toxin” because arrows were often poisoned in John’s day. And “crown”? “Corona” means “crown”. The spike proteins make up the crown and they are the toxin of the vax.
It fits too closely to ignore.
Check revelation chapter 6. He is a conqueror. Amazing how successful they’ve been in getting people jabbed. Billions.
At this point the only thing that makes sense is that these vaccines are Covid + Something. I just don't know what that something is and LEAST tinfoil I get is that NIH knows of another virus that was being modified and they are trying to protect against that one too, but they can't say that because it would be an admission of guilt for Covid-19.
The reason that this doesn't make sense to you is because it is not rational behavior. It is about faith and virtue signaling, not science or reason.
Faith that man is destined to conquer nature, the stars, life, the universe and everything. So a new virus with a CFR a little higher than the flu must not be accommodated, adapted to, or lived with, it must be beaten with the newest and shiniest science we can muster. So not just any old vaccine, a new mRNA vaccine. Not Merck's old boring Ivermectin but Merck's new mutagenic
Visited a kids indoor college sporting event in North Carolina a few weekends ago
The 4 teams present and fans were all screaming at the top of their lungs
There were retirees checking masks were on as a gate to get into the stands, where one or two had them on
My sense is that this is gone in a lot of places, and going in others ....
That said, talking to a brilliant Brooklyn colleague yesterday who was sick from getting the booster. I didn't bother asking him how he rationalized needing a booster so soon, and if he'd accepted if he was not on the sunk costs trap of needing them every 6m. Feel sorry for him, and the others in NYC on this thread who feel trapped ....
No convincing necessary.
It's all threats and bullying now.
They don't give a shit whether people buy it anymore. They just want to crush dissent.
Yep I've yet to hear a table near me at a restaurant or pub discuss the effectiveness of the vaccine and that it's a great invention for the world.
I have on the other hand heard many at a table near me discussing the 'WTF is going on' version of the vaccine rollout.
I'm so frustrated. I live in NYCity. My building is a coop with many of us residents over 65--one of the highly vaccinated age groups. Our mayor has imposed severe restrictions on unvaccinated residents: no indoor entertainment, no gyms, no tennis courts, no movies, no restaurants, no theater, no sports activities. As he says, "New York is a great city, but you don't deserve to enjoy it if you are unvaccinated." WOW. And most of this city's highly Democratic constituency are fine with these restrictions. I have friends who tell me, "It's fine if you decide to be unvaccinated, but then you have to be able to accept the public health restrictions that go with your decision." In the lobby of my building I overhear three of my neighbors cheerfully gossiping about where they got their boosters and being really pleased that they have topped up their immunity. Vaccines, boosters, mandates, passports are accepted as just a way of life. No big deal. Maybe I would feel the same way if I didn't feel so vulnerable since I have had life long hypersensitivities to drugs. Evidence based medicine hasn't served me well, so I'm definitely not ready to begin taking another lifelong drug.
Hang in there. I know exactly how you feel. I'm 71 and no jabs for me. I live in Canada in the beautiful province of British Columbia and I am going through the same thing. Vaccine Passports came into effect in October in my province. Out of 20 people in our extended family I am the only one to refuse this "vaccine". At the end of October my partner celebrated his 81st birthday. His family took him out for a lunch celebration and I had to stay home. Last weekend I was unable to go to my 12 year old grandson's hockey tournament. This isn't how I thought I would be spending my golden years! I also have a brother and a cousin who refuse to see me unless I get the shots. The rest of the family is fine with my decision.
It's this site and responses like yours that make me feel part of a community. I'm grateful for your shared experience. I'm 79. My husband was 10 years older and passed away about 4 years ago. We were both hypochondriacs, so I bet he would not accept vaccines. We both avoided flu vaccines. We didn't have children, so I don't have to worry about getting excluded. My brother visited me recently from Arizona, and we ate together at an outdoor restaurant. Lots of my friends forget that I'm unvaccinated because I seem so normal, and I don't have horns and a tail.
Thank you Thank you Thank you It helps so much!
Congratulations! Don't compromise your health with these poisons. Maybe you should share the following with your friends and relatives: https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-their?r=pbsfr&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=
Yes, hang in there. Trust your gut. I’m a physician, and so-called “evidence-based” medicine isn’t all it’s been cracked up to be. I would never take one of the anti COVID agents. And, this will be the first year I will not be getting a flu shot.
Take ivermectin prophylactically. I do. I’m 68. I moved my business out of NYC to LI after 41 yrs. I moved myself to my home Upstate and work remote. I now go into NYC every 8-9 weeks and reverse commute to LI. I no longer enjoy the city. For the moment I’ll keep my co-op apt. I’ve been taking Ivermectin for 18 months. FLCCC.net tells you what you need to do and how to get Ivermectin. Remember you are living in the epicenter of Covid fear and virtue signaling.
You are clearly not thinking taking ivermectin. Save yourself the heartache. Get the jab save your life and mine. Take a look at the two folks still stuck in Iron lungs from polio. This is not a joke the jab works. I have mixed connetive tissue disease and heart failure. I got all three shots. It works.What kills me is you would rather orally take poison than get a vaccine. You will take a poison that is not proven for anything other than putting folks in the hospital. But, you will not take the jab that is working and proven..Ummmm???
All for taking the jab if that works for you. But what about ivermectin is poison? You do yourself and your argument great disservice. Ivermectin, in proper dosage, is not poisonous and heavily prescribed for over a decade. It does not have an experimental use authorization required by the FDA to be commonly administered before all tests have been concluded. You should do some research on this, you'll be surprised what you learn about ivermectin as well as other prophylactics demonized for daring to be considered as therapeutics.
I'd also recommend you do some research on hard data coming out of europe and Israel on what's happening. More and more European countries are cancelling shots for children, removing masks for school age children and rapidly changing their approaches. Get out of the US mainstream media bubble and get more up to date on what's happening around the world. The US is not a leader in producing healthy citizens.
One last thing...if you look at the latest data on predicted and excess deaths, excess deaths vs predicted are the highest ever, higher in 2021 than in 2020. Why would that be? How is it possible more Americans are dying than ever? Last year, covid was at fault, now, with majority of citizens vaccinated, why are Americans dying at record rates? Hmmm...this tells me that something has gone wrong with the health policy per the FDA and govt.
Best of luck to you and stay healthy.
i think what kills you is that your colon has a direct bypass to your cerebellum. now, allow me to explain my (not proven) theory. ivermectin is stuff given to kill tapeworms and other worms. usually kids get it in the country, and the stuff has been used for ages to kill the worms. and also in livestock. worse it could happen is that you get the worms killed. now, since you have that direct bypass, the ivermectin would not be metabolized in the gut, but go straight through the meninge and affect the brain directly. and since your brain appears to be a fat parasitic worm, it could very well be fatal in your case. stick to the jab, which i'm sure don't have any neurological effects. oh wait.....
Susan, for all we know you are a paid "influencer". Or, perhaps you are paid to peruse the internet for sites where people are know to be against receiving coerced medical attention when they are otherwise healthy. We do know.
We do know that you think a disease for which the team who discovered it and turned it into a treatment won the Nobel Prize for it in 2015. Yes, 2015, six short years ago. That "poison" is saving thousands of people suffering from River Blindness.
What kills me is the same thing that kills you: sin. To pretend it is anything more or less is a idol worship.
But, you will not believe that God loves you more than your government and that has been proven by your complete evangelization for the government-big-pharma fusion, your idol.
How do we know the jab works? Is it because vaccinated people have fewer cases of Covid, and are less likely to be hospitalized or die? These signs of efficacy seem to be diminishing as scientists seem to now agree that vaccines now offer much less protection. Why do we need anything to save our lives? Most people don't get Covid. Most people don't die from Covid. Covid is easily cured when treated early outside of the hospital. Why is polio relevant? It's a totally different disease. I'm so happy that you didn't get adverse reactions from Covid vaccination--so many people are not so lucky. Ivermectin has been proven safe and effective for treating parasitic disease. It is used in many nursing homes in the United States for treating scabies, and is used without a prescription (that's how safe it is) for decades in India and Africa for treating disease--including Covid. Merck, the manufacturer of Ivermectin, even boasts of its safety in treating parasitic infections. I am just now listening to a fascinating lecture by Sally Mallon about germ theory. https://www.bitchute.com/video/aP92ilqhPTHI/ She states the consequences of germ theory are "Kill each germ with a toxic drug. Prevent each germ with a toxic vaccine." The Lancet in a recent paper reported 15 deaths in a nursing home--possibly from Ivermectin. Meanwhile the CDC has confirmed over 8000 deaths from toxic mRNA vaccines in the last 18 months. You got vaccinated and didn't get sick. I take Ivermectin every week, and also didn't get poisoned or sick. I guess that proves we are both right. Vaccination works! Ivermectin also works! To each his own poison.
Ivermectin is poison. Retard.
Warfarin is rat poison yet is widely prescribed as a blood thinner. Does that make those doctors potential murderers? Quinine can be toxic yet it's used in medicine and adds flavor to my G&T. I most likely poison myself more with the G than the T. So, don't be ignorant. Ivermectin is successfully used all over the world to treat humans and animals.
I live in NYC also. It is truly appalling, all of it, but especially the enthusiasm for jabbing kids, and a perfect example of the extreme and growing degeneracy of the entire area.
Yes, I see such happiness as cable news celebrates the authorization of vaccines for younger and younger children. I'm glad that you share my outrage for exposing young children to such risks.
"In order to tame people into the desired pattern, victims must be brought to a point where they have lost their alert consciousness and mental awareness. Freedom of discussion and free intellectual exchange hinder conditioning. Feelings of terror, feelings of fear and hopelessness, of being alone, of standing with one's back to the wall, must be instilled."
From the book; The Rape of the Mind, by Joost Meerloo.
Seems like a good reference. I added it to my book list.
I agree with you. Stand strong. Good luck!
I hate to say it, but as the sorting accelerates, NYC will only get worse. I personally know almost a dozen NYC refugees who moved to Texas over the last two years. You’ll have to follow them or live in clown world.
Agreed. I am looking for a place in South Carolina or North Florida.
Leave. NY is completely lost.
So they ARE waking up ! Good ! (I seldom go out so glad to read some of what is going on in the crowds)
Most comply to mask edict here. But there are easy ways out of doing so.
I get paid the equivalent of two or three times the minimum wage to do nothing. It's called retirement. 🤗
Mom, you HAVE to stop.
is there a way to block a-holes from this site?
She is everywhere. On many substacks I subscribe to. I had a good laugh the other day. Someone commented on her being on a site and said " Paula. Put your clothes on and go read a book".
Paula? She's over on Alex Berenson's substack too. I just told her she needs a non binary psychologist. Or psychiatrist. (You sort of had to have been there, LOL!)
Not a paid sub so couldn't comment but read that exchange and chuckled.
Unfortunately not.
go ahead
haha! Great response!
Paula, but you said you loved ME
LOL
We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying
doubling down. its what they do best.
And people do what they say anyhow.
sadly, I don't think the vaxxed see the lies. They are on board 100%.
my moderna shot went 6 months this week, i am now unvaxxed and will stay unvaxxed.
Congratulations! Welcome aboard :) Seriously, so many people I know, that I thought were logical and smart enough to know better, have fallen into this horrible life of useless, harmful killer shots and following mandates and spewing insults at the unvaxxed.
It's like the horror film, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."
Night of the living dead, Zombie Apocalypse, Venom...
Don't worry. We naturally unvaxxed do not discriminate or shun the politically unvaxxed. We are not a cult. Good luck and get some Ivermectin. Jimmy Dore also got Moderna and had nasty side effect that lingered for months. He's on Ivermectin now as that deals with the spike proteins great.
I wanted to urge us not to practice medicine here. Then it occurs to me that most of the medical business no longer seems to practice medicine, either. 😐
I had the same discussion with people telling me to "Stop playing doctor" and my reply is "I'll be happy to if the doctors want to go back to playing doctor".
I also add that "If they are not doing early treatment then they are not worth listening to". Always point out people like Dr John Campbell who is very pro-vax but also pro-early treatment.
very sorry for that :(((
I have a friend who has relatives in Australia. He is a caring individual. But he sees no problem with the Australian government's tyrannical measures to impose lockdowns in the holy grail quest for 0 Covid. When I told him the quarantine areas reminded me of concentration camps, he got very angry. "You have to understand this is in the service of preserving health!" A few days ago he informed me (with pride?) you would never be allowed to travel freely outside if you were here. He plans taking a booster soon. He also states (with pride?) that Australia is succeeding in imposing vaccine mandates, has gotten 80% vaccinated, and hopes to soon reach 90% --greater than our pathetic warp speed. He sees the vaccines as tremendously effective. HOW CAN HE BELIEVE THIS? I alternate between praying for his health, and hoping I see him repent with both Covid and adverse vaccine reactions.
I think we are all bouncing back and forth between wanting to make the ones that won't see, SEE, and also proving to the ones that are being indignant, then taken down (ah ha, see?), but then hoping the same bad things won't happen to our beloved parents, children, siblings, friends...they believe they are doing the right thing. What are we to do?
My family is the same (except my mother). My dad couldn't wait to get his booster and called vitamin D "quackery". My mother and brother came down with covid and my mum took Ivermectin and was better the next day. My brother refused the "horse medicine" and would "defeat it with his protection from the vaccine". He was sick for another week. All these people are lost. Mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and ultimately, physically. Most of them won't lift a finger when the oppression becomes full-blown persecution.
I'm glad your family recovered. Some people even are happy to get disabled from vaccines (proves vaccination works), and also happy to get Covid (would have been worse without vaccination). I'm not sure they are lost. I bet if we took control of all the media and had a constant stream of propaganda such as Covid is weakening, new early treatment cures Covid, Ivermectin, fluvoxamine, etc. are safe and effective, vitamin D a great prophylactic, with catchy slogans such as "Back to normality!" "Freedom," etc. Oh, and we have to keep publishing low or declining rates of Covid and lower rates of hospitalization. (Not sure we can promise low rates of hospitalization, though, with high rates of vaccination.)
I recommend the brother watches Life of Brain, that might heal him.
Life of Brian too...lol - Monty Python.
Just biding our time..(pitifully with Biden) and watching to see what craziness next. You are not alone Diana!
I have friends and family there, they're not necessarily fully on board but seem reluctant to admit to the full maliciousness of the current situation. It's all happened since the lock-downs that came after May. Before that the vaccines were available but there was little uptake.
- Alexandr Solzhenitsyn
Quote attributed to, I believe, Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. He was a man who had more than a little bit of first hand experience with perhaps the worst totalitarian regime of modern times, the Soviet Union.
So many don't want to know. That's the struggle
I recall reading that the Nazis only ever managed to fool about 40% of the German population, meaning the majority knew what they were all along, yet they managed to seize dictatorial control of that society. A credulous minority can pose a real danger to a free society.
The real danger is and has always been the go-along-get-along rule-following herd.
Dennis Prager said something profound on his show the other day, he was talking about the flight attendant who kicked the 2 year old with asthma gasping for breath off the plane because he wouldn't put a mask on. It's the regular people who insist on enforcing irrational rules who are the most terrifying, especially when the arbitrary and nonsensical rules hurt another person. It is no exaggeration to say that people like that flight attendant are precisely how mass atrocities are able to occur.
Authoritarians are like mold spores, always floating around out there looking for conditions in which they can fester. A credulous, compliant society provides a Petri dish for any wannabe dictator.
The thing is, my whole life, I've never known people to be THIS compliant. People used to stand their ground a bit more. They used to agree to disagree. Maybe my job has been more of a hard-sell compared to mainstream medicine, but when patients struggle to do their hamstring stretches or drink more water, but they will go out to get an experimental medical procedure, then I really know the world is screwed!
I agree with you. Unfortunately FEAR is a great way to get compliance. And false promises about getting back to normal if you just give in. I can't believe that the vaxxed population isn't really angry for being betrayed.
Cognitive dissonance. They can't stomach the thought that they've been played for chumps and possibly screwed up the rest of their lives, so they won't even entertain the possibility that they effed up.
They’ve kicked the fight out of everyone. Jobs disappeared over seas thanks to NAFTA, poor policies in the Middle East, created wars, terrorist/9-11, being called racist, homophobes- hypocrisy abounding, creating policies that pull families apart instead of creating stronger families, diminishing the importance of religious freedom, demonizing law enforcement & military, this list can go on and on, our population has been slammed and pushed around by politicians, media and corporate giants for so long, people are afraid to stand up, cause they know they’ll get plummeted- it’s just a general sense of hopelessness.
pummeled
Cruiser - that is perfect.
It seems to be the true goal of public schooling, to foster such a vulnerable mindset.
Yes, very much so. Media as well.
https://archive.org/details/JohnTaylorGattoTheUndergroundHistoryOfAmericanEducationBook
I've always marched to the beat of my own drum; even as a kid.
I would say that about 95% of my patients have been jabbed. Of that, less than half were HAPPY to have it. The other half just did it coz so-and-so said they should have it (dr, govt, friend, family etc) or it was to keep their job or some other such reason. If it was truly up to them, less than half of my patients would've lined up for it. Plenty don't like what's going on, but they feel they have no CHOICE...so they had it. I'm dead-set against it and no-one is going to make me have it. No-one.
So yeah, your 40% of the German population sounds about right. I will have to ask my husband as he is a history buff!
Interesting insight from the front lines...thanks!
But my job, my kids' school, my vacation. Also I can't move because I don't want to.
Yup. I definitely agree with your sarcasm there, Guttermouth!
Additionally, forcing many to relocate is also part of their plan. It's like kicking an anthill -- they simply move elsewhere and many of them (not all but many) take their stinkin' political leanings with them to the previously uncontaminated regions. More power at the polls and schools and businesses and hospitals and police stations and courts and ... ad nauseum.
Plus, it reduces the over-population and empties the prime real estate in the original regions and strengthens the animosity / political power in the stay-behinds.
I moved, and I could give a crap about the stay-behinds. My vote was already worthless, at least now me and my family are happy and I don't have to deal with covid tyranny.
And I'd be happy to invite you and your family to "our" ever-so-slightly-more-sane region! Hope here is where you came.
You've hit, I think, on two of their key concepts. Whether deliberately planned or not, vax mandates in a particular city or State of course have the effect of driving out the non-compliant, who probably are mostly political opponents anyway. Those that remain tend to be the docile sheep, perfect for a local despot to lord over. Finally, there is the convenient side effect of businesses, homes and other immobile property that may be on sale at distress prices. Guess who buys it up? To some extent, this explains the decay - renewal cycle of certain areas of large urban areas, for example South Central LA post-riots (1990s) or the gentrification of Washington D.C.
Satan, I wouldn't exactly call BLM or ANTIFA "docile" yet they both serve their liberal, socialistic Democratic masters quite well. Those two groups probably don't believe the same things as their masters, but they certainly serve them and will be amongst the "stay-behinds" to take over the high-rent "distressed" properties as if THEY were the kings.
the nazis had the billionaires like the kruppe family, they had a society that was used to being ruled. they beat the bolshevists and hitler did in the too huffy brown shirts who were the musce on the bolshevists. before the few woke up the gestapo had as much power as the fbi today....
If there is any saving grace of Federal agencies, it's that their, er, "employment policies" over many decades tend to indirectly select for more incompetence. Of course the agencies still have great powers, but they are both headed and staffed by people who are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
And maybe they can also defeat attempts to take dictatorial control as well.
They will never Jab me Let’s go Brandon👊🏼
I'm losing hope. I have such bitterness and contempt for those who are still falling for the obvious lies. At this point, their ignorance has to be willful, or if not, then the gullibility of those who still believe is dangerous to us all
that's why you are here, as we all are. you must stay strong here with everyone who feels the way you do. push forward with us.
Thank you. I work in academia, and I am surrounded by those who have bought into the covid cult.
it is everywhere, academia, medical facilities, even walmart/target, you name it. Some take the jab to save their job, many believe it is the right thing to do for all. Ugh!! Each person has to decide what is best for themselves and family.
More so in academia. I'm in a small University town. The gaslighting is higher around the University.
Remember the news is almost 100% censored. SAFE AND EFFECTIVE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE.
Safe And Effective®
Unless they get their news from someplace other than the MSM, Google, Twitter, FB et al, that's all they're going to hear.
they put those chants out in prison camps
I hear you. I live in Covid cult central and it is insane here. The parents flock with their tiny children for the jab and celebrate their holiness and smartness. But this is just certain areas of the country. Many people aren’t buying this.
Where is Covid cult central located?
San Francisco, the a**hole of the country currently. 😝 I’m constantly shaking my head around here. My favorite must be the boostered with N95 makes and face shields in parks….. 🤦♀️
You can still visit parks? I thought that's where the homeless lived, often with considerable government subsidy. 🤪 No money? Need stuff? No problem, just loot a local store. If you take < $950 of merchandise, security won't even touch you. I've seen the videos.
I think Melbourne, Australia and there is a European country in Eastern Europe that is pretty totalitarian that may be even worse. :(
I think the most totalitarian, by amount of population vaccinated, are in the West. Bulgaria & Romania are towards the bottom of vaxxed %s. Poland is around 50% by memory. Whereas Scandinavia, Ireland, the UK, France are much higher although obviously not as high as the claims.
I was having a senior moment trying to remember the name of European country with massive restrictions against the unvaccinated. I think it's Lithuania.
Covid Death Cult hq? atlanta, right? ;)
"He got monkey finger
He shoot Coca-Cola
He say I know you, you know me
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free"
Sorry to have to break it to you, but it gets worse before it gets better. And many of us won't be here to see the phoenix rise. Such is life. Embrace every minute you get.
Do you think gullibility is related to desire? So many scams are based on promises that people would really like to believe. A cure for baldness, a sure fire way to make money, a way to restore youthful vigor. We have an infection described as "an existential threat, millions dying." Do you know anyone who has died of Covid? I know 2nd hand my friend's uncle died. I don't know anyone who died of vaccination or even got a terrible side effect. One friend injected her 12 year old daughter with vaccine, and was scared when the daughter got sick with fever for 3 days--gradually recovering. Damn! This mother also has an 8 year old daughter with heart problems who is eager to also get vaccinated. I hope she does not. I think willful ignorance (I typed willful illness and needed to correct it), is only because changing belief increases fear or makes it seem they won't get the fulfillment of desire. My dad desperately wanted to get married again after his 2nd wife (not my mother) died from stomach cancer. He found a woman who was eager to take his money. We all warned him she wasn't in love with him, but he wouldn't listen. "You just don't want me to be happy." He married her. We were right. He divorced her a month after the marriage. I strive not be be bitter or contemptuous, but when triggered, I get anguished, distressed, and even outraged. Recently I found I feel a little bit better why reading all the lies without believing them. I guess I don't really care--all I want is to avoid vaccination. That's my bottom line. I want to keep my money and my health. Vaccine passports and central bank control of currency threaten both. (Get vaccinated or we freeze your bank account!)
Nope. Not fallin' for it at all.
You (or someone) missed the third step in that logic: "Convincing the jabbed and mega boostered that it's actually logical that their jabs and boosters work so well that they have to avoid any contact with the never jabbed."
Pretty sure it was gaitio who first gave the example but I've used it a lot & don't remember. Expecting other folks vaccines to protect you is like thinking your umbrella won't work to protect you from rain unless everyone else uses one. It's so perfect, still polite and not a point most can't argue with.
There's no arguing with the True Believers. Our side gets many amusing (and, usually, very true) memes out of this. One of my favorites is: "Why must the unvaxxed be vaxxed to protect the vaxxed from catching a disease that the vaxx doesn't protect them from?" I recently had a real-life discussion with a TB who proudly claimed that the jabs are the most tested, best researched vaccines ever! 🙄
Stupidity is bliss.
And yet people that I "hang with" (or used to hang with) are all on board with this...fully vaxxed, brag about their boosters (and how they felt awful afterwards) and continue to mask and shame those who don't. I can't anymore. I just can't.
I don't believe that there are as many as there saying who are vaxxed. I think it's just a ploy to make us think we are few
i used to hope that too...then i started having conversations with people. even the ones who held out have suddenly caved...and for the most preposterous reasons...like....yoga. as if you cant do yoga at home. no you are right....you should totally poison yourself for yoga. good job taking a strong stand.
AU person here. This has happened to my mother. She's still to have her 2nd jab though. But her reasoning is mainly to see my sister's kids (grandkids). My Mum doesn't go to the pub or anything! My sister denied her seeing them because Dictator Dan said she should do this (effectively: no mask, no jab, no grandkids!). What a cow. I have explained that once Dictator Dan in Victoria gets his bill passed, he'll really BE Dictator Dan with ridiculous amounts of power available at a whim. Then 2 jabs won't be enough. It'll be 'Pop 'Til You Drop' and anyone who refuses a booster will barely be allowed to buy food from the supermarket.
I've at least asked my Mum to consider waiting until his crazy bill goes through (or hopefully doesn't...) because there'll be no point in her having a 2nd jab if she plans to refuse the boosters (she says it'll be just these 2 jabs and that's it, and she's NOT happy about it). But my Mum, like anyone else in her predicament, will get maybe 4-6 months of 'normality' (if you call it that...) and then it'll be right back to square one again...but this time it'll be even worse. So it's 'hop on the Crazy Train' or get right off it. No in between...
I think people just realise the hopelessness of it all, so they're caving now because they don't want to see themselves living in a tent in the middle of nowhere, all alone, away from society. They'd rather die IN society and feel like they're part of it than be a social outcast. Me? I couldn't care less about society. It's all gone to pot, anyhow!
Melbourne here. Dan has gone full-blown psychotic and I hardly recognize this city anymore. Almost everyone around me is completely brainwashed and it is extremely disturbing. I couldn't care less about society, either. It has been on the skids for years. Never getting these jabs. I'm standing on a pretty lonely hill at the moment, but at least I know others like you are out there!
I'm just glad there was a great big protest today! We need more of them right now. But it's ridiculous that so many people need to protest, for weeks on end, so that the political wankers might listen. I guess we'll see what happens in another week or so with the pandemic bill....fingers crossed that bill does NOT pass...or you'll start to think what's happening now is really quite pleasant!! :-(
I was in Melbourne November to January and again for a month April to May. Most of the bad stuff has happened since. Mad Jacinda is about to run NZ into a 'traffic light' system. She looks scared tbh but doesn't deserve an ounce of sympathy. I was supposedly interviewed for a film on her about 5 months ago, doubt that such a film will see the light of day anymore.
I say supposedly because I've not heard from the filmmaker since.
At least the pot is legal in many US states, including some where the climate is amenable to living in a tent (West Coast.) 😏 But yes, I agree that our societies seem to be stumbling down a path to oblivion. I'm not a believer, but there's that famous quote about the pathway that leads to destruction is broad and wide, and the gate is wide for the many who enter that way....
Hiya Dan, yep, we're all good. In fact we're selling our house and moving north to land we've already bought. We're taking 6-12 months off work and building a cool kit home. We have things to occupy us whilst everyone will be tearing their hair out next year! We kind of organised it this way in fact ;-) It's not quite 'escape' because we'll get back to work, but for now, it's our way of dealing with the insanity. And there are plenty of like-minded people up that way, some of whom I know! I've already got a dinner invite for when we move up there in 2 or so months!
You know, my Dad lives in California, but he's like my sister: totally pro-vax, all the way, baby! He and I don't get along much anymore. I fact, I'm hard pressed to find anything we DO agree on these days! He & his wife have thought about moving to Oregon. It's almost funny: you'd think about escaping Oregon and yet he'd think the State measures were just fine and dandy! People. Who needs them?! :-D
oh what happened to them? they had a heart attack in their yoga class...
I work in outside sales, got the J&J early for “one and done” and because I thought it would help me get back to normal, visiting clients. Then I had a side effect so no boosters for me and no forced shots for anyone certainly not my kids!
At least I have figured out how to work remotely and made my numbers since we are not going back to office anymore.
Do you mind sharing your side effect rando? My husband has tinnitus from JandJ
Cardiac arrhythmia, they called it "lateral ischemia" and did a bunch of scans but could not find any blood clots anywhere. It went away on its own, fortunately, though I'm supposed to follow up regularly with a cardiologist. But it wasn't there before the shot, cleared up after, like an acute inflammation. It wasn't even found until three months after - I didn't even connect it to the shot at first, until I logged it through CDC vSafe, then I got a call from a helpful CDC rep who informed me it was NOT related. That's what got me thinking it might be connected...
I've been thinking the same thing.
The average USA double vaxxed & booster on the schedule dullard hasn't even waken up to "14 days to slow the spread" meaning forever. They listen not to Pink Floyd. The trust the government.
I heard a progressive journalist warn, "You can't obey your way out of dictatorship."
You know things are getting bad when even the Old Left (e.g. those recently purged from major media -- Greenwald et al) and now, apparently, even Progs, are sounding the alarm.
Are they? Give me a url! I get triggered listening to Noam Chomsky, Richard Wolff, Matt Taibbi, Katie Halper, Michael Moore blandly repeating media talking points about how it's our moral duty to get vaccinated.
you can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat (shot)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaG8hHIajE
oh wow...I just watched this. so on target. let's prevent it from getting to that!
I subscribe to the daily propaganda reports from Oregon Health Authority, and today’s email led with the headline, “It’s not every day you get your vaccine in a livestock barn.”
Can they get any more obvious that TPTB view us as sheep?! 🤣🤣🤣
Hi Kitty, this is what we call Clown World. Honk Honk!
Honk Honk! Gibs!!
I'm dressed for the circus. 🤡 Where's my bread?
It's at the local soup kitchen. Please ensure you have a confirmed 48 hour Let's Go Brandon Term Quotation (LGBTQ) negative test on your Woke Passport before entry.
The fifth circuit court affirmed its stay of the OSHA employee vaccine mandate rule: https://dl.airtable.com/.attachments/db446ada300c17b1c8e3a6530561a46f/e7ff5065/BSTHoldingsvOSHAOrder.pdf
“The media are currently painting a bizarre picture.
One where the Vaccinated are protected from COVID19, but not protected from the unvaccinated.
Some people genuinely believe it as well.”
– Dan Stevens
The second part is wrong. In Israel out of 9.3 million people, 7.8 million were elligible (20+) and 6.7 took the first 2 doses. For the third 1.5 million said no and lost all their rights. That means that 5.2 million still "believe" the vaccine hype will save them.
Israel has announced shot #4 is coming so we'll se if they lose another million or two or if the rest say ENOUGH.
Sad but true.
Thanks for the numbers. Here’s where things might be headed.
1. 7.8 eligible
2. 6.7 million double jabbed (86%, 14% attrition)
3. 5.2 million booster (67%, 22% attrition)
4. Prediction 3.6 million (47%, 30% attrition).
God I hope you are wrong but yea it could happen. We don't know. It's one big experiment. We're in the control group.
Why, only people who haven’t refined their capacity for doublethink could find any difficulty following that circular illogic.
This is pharmaceutical nirvana! A gene therapy you have to take every six months for the rest of your life, paid for by a government who won’t negotiate drug prices! And, it reduces the surplus population! Triple crown!
Release the kraken!
They are telling kids they'll be 'superheroes' for getting the jab. Their super power will be growing clots and heart attacks.
These times remind me of a James Thurber quote "The hell bent get where they're going." I'm not interested in joining them but it's hard to avoid the lemming stampede.
Body surf your way to the back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3O4IOaKZqU
Haha thanks. I needed a laugh.
The jabbed are so credulous that convincing them of anything is an easy task now. Even Big Bird is telling them what to do now.
If you put it like this, someone should notice something is off !
Haha nah, it's like saying 'Heads I win, Tails you lose...'
Free Vaccines. See, not so tricky
I think the party would have to pass out plenty of weed, LSD, and mezcal served in a Klein bottle to enable grokking of this meme.
Nice reference. We do, indeed, live in a very Strange Land ... or at least in very Strange Times.
I grok (the real message) - but I never partook of "the weed" et.al.
Maybe the latter is why I don't bite on the new narrative. :)
Nonsense. I'm quite conservative in my beliefs, yet I smoked pot a lot and took acid many times in my youth butt tit hasn't effected me in the leased 🤩
🤣😂😳
I know what is a Klein bottle. I've never seen one, but if you possessed one, you would get invited to a lot of mathematician or topology parties. 🙃
A country song says it pretty clearly: "God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy!"
"Sad Little Man" by Five Times August (Official Music Video) 2021
https://youtu.be/6plsSlxOstQ
.. Top 10?
Booster mania has required a narrative change.
Lunacy
Catch-Boost-22
Not so tricky. Most of the jabbed are committed to the cult. None of the unjabbed will be convinced, though many might submit to coercion.
Look at Australia. They’ve dropped the pretense it’s about health. Get the jab or live a lonely isolated life, they say.
Excellent "thought experiment" - had this discussion the other day with a colleague. If the vaxx doesn't prevent transmission, and emergency rooms are currently crowding with those who have the vaxx, and you think the vaxx protects you, shouldn't you be more afraid of being in public with those who are vaccinated vs non vaccinated with anti-bodies vs. non vaccinated but no antibodies. Maybe we should all wear certain hats so we know our correct congregation group. We can all huddle in three sections in restaurants:
1. Vaccinated with full boosters - green hats
2. Vaccinated partially - yellow hats
3. Non Vaccinated - anti-bodies from previous infection - orange hats
4. Non Vaccinated - no previous infection and will probably die in front of your eyes - red hats
5. Children - more likely to die in a car crash or from the flu, so they should be masked but kept separate unless they're illegal immigrants, then they can't be separated unless paid $450k as an illegal immigrant (note, you must be an illegal immigrant, you can't be a US citizen arrested for drunk driving and separated from your kids while you're in jail just because thems the rulezzzz man).
Now go shelter in place and whatever you do, don't resume your blue collar job transporting goods across the US. Inflation is transitory. No worries.
Make that 5 sections, not three lol. Maybe someday we will get an edit function ;-)
My daily dose of Bad Cattitude helps keep me sane in an insane world.
So, this vax mania is the First Rider of the Apocalypse.
This is a lighthearted tribe, and I like that, but these are consequential times.
The First Horseman has a crown and a bow. The Greek for “bow” is “toxon”—where we get “toxin” because arrows were often poisoned in John’s day. And “crown”? “Corona” means “crown”. The spike proteins make up the crown and they are the toxin of the vax.
It fits too closely to ignore.
Check revelation chapter 6. He is a conqueror. Amazing how successful they’ve been in getting people jabbed. Billions.
Sorry, we aren’t stupid ✌️
At this point the only thing that makes sense is that these vaccines are Covid + Something. I just don't know what that something is and LEAST tinfoil I get is that NIH knows of another virus that was being modified and they are trying to protect against that one too, but they can't say that because it would be an admission of guilt for Covid-19.
Something to try and lighten the mood a little, even if only temporararily:
Cat light at the end of the tunnel 🐈⬛
https://twitter.com/_HelenDale/status/1459536805632557061?t=bzSubSVc_jAIiBteFk_sCQ&s=19
Definitely sharing that quote!
https://covidreason.substack.com/p/5th-cir-court-plugs-up-the-vaccine
So what states are the least covid authoritarian right now. Besides Florida and Texas?
The reason that this doesn't make sense to you is because it is not rational behavior. It is about faith and virtue signaling, not science or reason.
Faith that man is destined to conquer nature, the stars, life, the universe and everything. So a new virus with a CFR a little higher than the flu must not be accommodated, adapted to, or lived with, it must be beaten with the newest and shiniest science we can muster. So not just any old vaccine, a new mRNA vaccine. Not Merck's old boring Ivermectin but Merck's new mutagenic
meanwhile , out in the real world:
Visited a kids indoor college sporting event in North Carolina a few weekends ago
The 4 teams present and fans were all screaming at the top of their lungs
There were retirees checking masks were on as a gate to get into the stands, where one or two had them on
My sense is that this is gone in a lot of places, and going in others ....
That said, talking to a brilliant Brooklyn colleague yesterday who was sick from getting the booster. I didn't bother asking him how he rationalized needing a booster so soon, and if he'd accepted if he was not on the sunk costs trap of needing them every 6m. Feel sorry for him, and the others in NYC on this thread who feel trapped ....
PS - took the J&J jab in the past few months
That's hilarious. You just made my day.
the mrna jabs started out as a bio war defense, the temporary coverage was a feature....
https://www.darpa.mil/program/autonomous-diagnostics-to-enable-prevention-and-therapeutics
Here's an older version of that. Does it mean anything more than that Pfizer and Bill Gates have been in the military's ear (or more likely pocket)?
https://web.archive.org/web/20150810230835/http://www.darpa.mil/program/autonomous-diagnostics-to-enable-prevention-and-Therapeutics
Zactly.
I'm sorry, did you miss this party?
https://youtu.be/sSkFyNVtNh8
Yeah right. I'm sure Colbert has spent at least a microsecond listening to anything but MSM fanboys.
Is that you Bari?