As a female with a degree in math, I am beyond offended. Why I love math, is that it’s very factual and logic based. This seems to be the opposite. I don’t care that “men” came up with it.
This is one of many reasons I just ran screaming from my job at a California community college. FFS, they were starting to ask the research & Planning dept to present their stats through 'the lens of diversity' - stats are stats! Enough!
How about they actually teach real math in math class? You know China does not spend their time on this stuff, which is one reason why they are overtaking us.
UofT has been the source of the very worst academics and scientists during covid in canada. I wouldn't send my kids to that university if it was he last institution standing in this country. Over my dead body.
We have this crap because universities are tax funded. If you can take money from people by force, you can fund whatever you feel like. But if you were funded voluntarily (you know, like everyone else except government), then no one would contribute to this nonsense.
In short, taxation[1] is theft, pure and simple. The less of it, the better off we all are.
[1] inflation, too, is also theft, but just better hidden
This is just another example of all the diversity hires rising to their highest level of incompetence, and celebrating themselves endlessly for it. Clown shows everyday now.
I cannot take this crap! What a joke. The people in University have gone bonkers. I am glad my kids are out of school...but feel badly for them having to coexist with such morons.
I love the people on this forum. Reading your responses I wish there could be one enormous island set aside for like-minded people. Imagine the world we would create!
I have a minor in mathematics, which made me aware that I know less than zero about mathematics. Except this, whatever this is supposed to be, is beyond even imaginary numbers. Amazing times.
I attended the 2020 Joint Mathematics Conference in Denver. There were a disturbing number of signs that Wokeness was being planted in the community over the years, but in particular I saw the precipice in that convention. A few days or weeks later, the American Mathematical Association pronounced itself Woke, in about the words you might imagine.
There is a subset of math geeks that are easier to brainwash due to not overcoming the inferiority complex and dependence ingrained through the Prussian educational system. Now they've taken control.
I'm actually interested in learning about this just for the difference of approach. I don't particularly doubt that the explanations and critiques of the present paradigm will be devoid of any serious insight. Humans tend to think that stuff we see around us happen for a reason and overrate the ability of people to design things as opposed to use things because it's just historically been useful. Aspects of computation might be so general that our current scheme is obviously one of many possible ways in which it could have developed, but to suggest that it has some direct connection to the gender, population group or personal identity of people in Mathematics is absolutely unbelievable to me. Mathematics has not been designed, rather has been adapted and repurposed for use over many millennia driven by technological needs and limitations. It's not been carefully crafted by humans, it's a population level emergent historical artifact (like Mathematical Notation and specific forms of proof writing etc, or axioms) and adherence to it bears fruit and sometimes makes imagining beyond that limited, but so does all symbolic expression of computation. I cannot understand why human endeavors have to be segregated along the same uninteresting and totally uninsightful confabulated stories.
Still I'm pro hearing stories about the world we live in, even if it may falsely give people an impression of why we are where we are.
How the hell does one "liberate mathematics"? And what the hell does gender and color have to do with it? Math just IS. Does this mean for some people that 2 + 2 does NOT equal 4? The crazies running the universities have officially jumped the shark. Its time to cancel these nuts!
Lets ban lights because they were invented by a man.
But Publius, you are an extremist for saying that. They aren't banning lights, they are just "re-imagining" lights.
Publius says: its a light. You turn it on. You can then see in the dark. What is there to "re-imagine" unless you want to stay in the dark and imagine what is in the dark room you are sitting in.
WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? THESE PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS.
"LIBERATING MATHEMATICS " ? i have seen it all now.
I’d like to see the syllabus-curious about the reading materials. I don’t necessarily have a problem with a course like this as long as the material is approached critically and isn’t taught as dogma-or as a replacement for algebra, calculus, etc. FYI, I have an Art background.
"visible minorities". This lets you know the artcile/subject is so skewed it is nearly falling over. The only minority that matters in the advancement of mathematics is the population that has an aptitude for math. Any other minority is only mentioned to push a societal agenda.
math is mean. my favorite is companies who are saying they are really focused on inclusivity and diversity and then fire people based on medical profiling. math.
When will they show us a result of "progressive math", what has changed? Are differentiable functions no longer required to be continuous? Do polynomials of order n now have k roots where k != n? Is Group Theory now the study of asymmetry?
kitten corner: liberating math
As a female with a degree in math, I am beyond offended. Why I love math, is that it’s very factual and logic based. This seems to be the opposite. I don’t care that “men” came up with it.
I'm surprised the have a pre-requisite of high-school algebra. Isn't that racist?
This is one of many reasons I just ran screaming from my job at a California community college. FFS, they were starting to ask the research & Planning dept to present their stats through 'the lens of diversity' - stats are stats! Enough!
Rest assured gatito, a feline-centric math curriculum is in the works for 2022. Re-imagined for cats, the course promises to solve the 9 lives riddle!
‘Math is racist and sexist’, sayeth the fanatic and idiot.
The beauty of math is that it is universal and logical. Mathematical truth is the same in Nigeria as it is in Florida or Japan.
It’s not surprising, though, that a woke progressive left that rejects rationality in general also hates mathematics.
And Kate Brownshirt signed a law saying high school graduates no longer need to know how to read, write, or do math 🙄 https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/08/oregon-gov-kate-brown-signs-law-removing-basic-literacy-and-math-skill-requirement-for-high-school-graduates/
How about they actually teach real math in math class? You know China does not spend their time on this stuff, which is one reason why they are overtaking us.
Limited to first year students - get ‘em in and indoctrinat ‘em early!
Note to self... when coming across a resumé for somebody with a math degree from the University of Toronto, relegate it immediately to the trash can.
I'm just waiting for the SJWs to get around to liberating us all from gravity.
I've always wanted to fly.
"Don't ask me, I'm just a girl. I mean, I identify as. birthing person menstruator. Heehee, heehee"
This is a clown world.
UofT has been the source of the very worst academics and scientists during covid in canada. I wouldn't send my kids to that university if it was he last institution standing in this country. Over my dead body.
We have this crap because universities are tax funded. If you can take money from people by force, you can fund whatever you feel like. But if you were funded voluntarily (you know, like everyone else except government), then no one would contribute to this nonsense.
In short, taxation[1] is theft, pure and simple. The less of it, the better off we all are.
[1] inflation, too, is also theft, but just better hidden
This is just another example of all the diversity hires rising to their highest level of incompetence, and celebrating themselves endlessly for it. Clown shows everyday now.
I cannot take this crap! What a joke. The people in University have gone bonkers. I am glad my kids are out of school...but feel badly for them having to coexist with such morons.
*sigh* I can't say it enough: I hate this timeline.
I love the people on this forum. Reading your responses I wish there could be one enormous island set aside for like-minded people. Imagine the world we would create!
Holy crap. I live in Toronto. Sign me up. My tax dollars are paying for that dumpster fire. I might as well get warm!
I can't wait to die in the airplane these people design.
I hear the CRA has developed a new online form ‘reimagine your taxes due’ for non men.
I have a minor in mathematics, which made me aware that I know less than zero about mathematics. Except this, whatever this is supposed to be, is beyond even imaginary numbers. Amazing times.
lol, women mathematicians. What will they dream up next? And why not? We have a feline statistician.
Why not. They're already arguing that 2 + 2 = 5 (https://www.thecollegefix.com/some-critical-theory-scholars-argue-22-can-sometimes-equal-5/).
I attended the 2020 Joint Mathematics Conference in Denver. There were a disturbing number of signs that Wokeness was being planted in the community over the years, but in particular I saw the precipice in that convention. A few days or weeks later, the American Mathematical Association pronounced itself Woke, in about the words you might imagine.
There is a subset of math geeks that are easier to brainwash due to not overcoming the inferiority complex and dependence ingrained through the Prussian educational system. Now they've taken control.
Math is math!!! It's not meant to be subjective, it's right or it's wrong!
This drivel will continue as long as parents and students will pay for it.
OMG humanity is doomed 🤦🏻♀️
I want to know who these invisible minority women are. What have they been up to?
Oh those pesky men with their traditional math.
I'm actually interested in learning about this just for the difference of approach. I don't particularly doubt that the explanations and critiques of the present paradigm will be devoid of any serious insight. Humans tend to think that stuff we see around us happen for a reason and overrate the ability of people to design things as opposed to use things because it's just historically been useful. Aspects of computation might be so general that our current scheme is obviously one of many possible ways in which it could have developed, but to suggest that it has some direct connection to the gender, population group or personal identity of people in Mathematics is absolutely unbelievable to me. Mathematics has not been designed, rather has been adapted and repurposed for use over many millennia driven by technological needs and limitations. It's not been carefully crafted by humans, it's a population level emergent historical artifact (like Mathematical Notation and specific forms of proof writing etc, or axioms) and adherence to it bears fruit and sometimes makes imagining beyond that limited, but so does all symbolic expression of computation. I cannot understand why human endeavors have to be segregated along the same uninteresting and totally uninsightful confabulated stories.
Still I'm pro hearing stories about the world we live in, even if it may falsely give people an impression of why we are where we are.
In liberating mathematics binary numbers will realize they have the freedom to become non-binary! Free at last!
Canada is really going off the deep end. I love that it requires "high school level algebra".
"visible minorities"?
They are totally marginalizing the invisible demons animating all of this!
How the hell does one "liberate mathematics"? And what the hell does gender and color have to do with it? Math just IS. Does this mean for some people that 2 + 2 does NOT equal 4? The crazies running the universities have officially jumped the shark. Its time to cancel these nuts!
2 bad cats + 3 bad cats = 18 hippopotamuses minus a giraffe.
Sorry bad cat ;)
I could not believe it so I looked it up. It is real :(
https://coursefinder.utoronto.ca/course-search/search/courseInquiry?methodToCall=start&viewId=CourseDetails-InquiryView&courseId=MAT192H1S20221
I am 100% certain that this class is not taught by a math professor. Perhaps someone from the women's studies department?
Lets ban lights because they were invented by a man.
But Publius, you are an extremist for saying that. They aren't banning lights, they are just "re-imagining" lights.
Publius says: its a light. You turn it on. You can then see in the dark. What is there to "re-imagine" unless you want to stay in the dark and imagine what is in the dark room you are sitting in.
WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? THESE PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS.
"LIBERATING MATHEMATICS " ? i have seen it all now.
Only fresh persons can take this...
I’d like to see the syllabus-curious about the reading materials. I don’t necessarily have a problem with a course like this as long as the material is approached critically and isn’t taught as dogma-or as a replacement for algebra, calculus, etc. FYI, I have an Art background.
wow.
Uni of Toronto should be Uni of Pathetic
Universities are dead, long live online tutoring.
This is what happens when 2 +2 no longer = 4 in an educational system has failed for decades.
Imagine thinking that modern Canadia might not be a joke in every endeavor. wew
Well if everything is up for debate, then everything is up for debate. Right? Hahaha
"visible minorities". This lets you know the artcile/subject is so skewed it is nearly falling over. The only minority that matters in the advancement of mathematics is the population that has an aptitude for math. Any other minority is only mentioned to push a societal agenda.
math is mean. my favorite is companies who are saying they are really focused on inclusivity and diversity and then fire people based on medical profiling. math.
When will they show us a result of "progressive math", what has changed? Are differentiable functions no longer required to be continuous? Do polynomials of order n now have k roots where k != n? Is Group Theory now the study of asymmetry?
"Oh sorry, I took indigenous diversity math so all I can tell you is that 2+2 is racist." Excellence.