I remember sadly the day that the folks in the U.K. were talked out of their firearms, and then the folks in Canada, and then the folks in Australia, and each time (I worked for a large company with lots of folks from other countries) I’d ask them how they would resist if their government turned against them, and each time I received responses like “what are you, nuts? That could never happen today. Only crazy people want guns.” Yeah, like the crazy people running your government. Those folks I talked to back then are mighty silent these days. Mainly because it’s illegal for them to speak out now.
In Canada you can own guns. You need to take the Canadian Firearms Safety course, pass it and then apply for a PAL (possession and acquisition license). This will allow you to own "non-restricted" guns, such as shotguns and hunting rifles. I have a PAL. I'm a hunter. If you want handguns there is another course that you have to take for restricted weapons. To get your PAL you need to apply to the RCMP (the Mounties) who do a background check on you. It takes anywhere from a month to three months to get the PAL. There is a fee for the course and the PAL.
So basically you can own the guns they allow you to own if you jump through many hoops and pay a lot of money. And of course they track those that have them meticulously so that they know where to go first to disarm people.
It’s does help to have coin but not necessary. For competitive shooting hell yes. We shoot~35-40k between my wife and I. Got an automated reloading press to keep up. One hell of an addictive hobby.
In Australia you can own guns. The process is much the same as John Hemingway just outlined for Canada. I find comments like 'This wouldn't be happening if Australia still had their guns' a little problematic. The fact is that I would need significantly more provocation than what we currently have before I would be 'willing' to shoot another human being, who is likely only doing his/her best to survive, just like me. Sitting on my front verandah, 50km from town, brandishing my .270 doesn't do anything to further the cause & I doubt it causes anyone to take me seriously. Guns aren't the answer at this point in time. The majority of people I know own guns. If I needed a gun to feel safe then I probably still wouldn't feel safe WITH the gun.
Let me put it to you like this-in America there are more privately owned firearms (only counting legally owned ones) than ALL the militaries of ALL The countries that make up the UN COMBINED.
We are the largest fighting force on planet earth. Believe-If Americans didn’t have the firepower we do, if they had managed to disarm us prior to this covid madness, the whole world would look like the worst parts of Australia do now. They haven’t moved against us as aggressively-nor others as aggressively, because they know if they stir up the American civilian army they cannot hope to win.
Believe. Our guns keep us, and many others, safe. They’re still trying to boil the frog slowly as it were-but they can’t make the kind of clutch moves they must here to enact full tyranny because of the firepower waiting for them. If only 10% activate that is 30 million guns on the ground for patriots.
The only thing that's been holding back the fascists in the United States from doing away with our Constitutional protections is the knowledge that our society is incredibly well armed, and that legal gun owners are very law abiding.
If you look at the outsized response of our wonderful elected representatives to the Jan 6 stupidity, literally walling off the capitol and bringing in hordes of armed National Guard to "protect" them, then you will understand that the american fascists are quite aware of just how well armed the American citizenry actually is.
What would you do if they came at you with a syringe of something that might kill your or your kids? Forced in on you if you want to keep participating in a society that you essentially pay for with your taxes? Or stopped you from going outside to gather food for your family? Or forcing you out of a job that is necessary to keep the roof over your families heads? Or held you in a locked room with no windows, no cell phone for an extended period of time with 1 meal a day and no water? Just curious.
Or like Dr Mel Bruchet, a gentle doctor whose only crime was publicly revealing large numbers of stillbirths at his hospital? Taken into custody by 6 Royal Canadian Officers and turned over to a psych facility, declared to have dementia (had previously been speaking quite rationally at vaccine mandate freedom rallies) and given the choice of taking an Oral psych drug or be injected with same, and said drug was not approved for 81 year old and had been proven to cause strokes.
This is just too far past where everyone in Canada needs to say no...and here in the US. Can we get the underground railroad started again? El Gato Malo's kitten suggested...
This is horrible. As El Gato said, we need to have an Underground Railroad for those seeking to escape the tyranny in Canada. Or a secret rescue mission for someone like Dr. Bruchet
Unfortunately, most people think that it’s just not yet the right time to resist. They keep thinking it until they’re being prodded into the “showers”. I assure you that the time to resist was *before* they started putting your neighbors into COVID camps.
We've never 'had guns' here in the UK, it's never been part of our culture. There's some ownership here, eg farmers and game hunters, but that's it. Probably why we don't suffer with mass shootings https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
Mainly teenage boys do. We have a big problem with gang violence. It's hard to kill a lot of people with knives though, not quite the same coverage as gun, and you have to get *really* close.
Not only did the government talk you out of your guns, they somehow talked you out of remembering that you had them. Your own government bragged about taking 200k handguns from the public in the 1990s.
Handguns were banned after a school massacre in 1996. Guess how many school shootings we've had since? It's legal to own rifles and shotguns, but as I said, it's not in our culture and hence why we have so very few gun deaths. I'm not in any way suggesting you in America give up your guns as I know how entrenched they are in your culture. However, you have to objectively agree that hundreds of thousands of people died before their time due to bullet injuries.
North London can be an interesting place. I know of UK estate areas (subsidized complexes) where the police need an armed patrol (such patrols are quite rare, a very big deal) to enter. But indeed the psychos are better managed in the UK. Less concern over people entering mental hospitals.
I live in canada. It's a cesspool. why do they call him " antivax" dad? The JCIV out of the UK does not recommend vaccinating healthy children. Love how these news outlets think the science is settled.
In 2021 we had planned a ski trip to Canada, but had to switch to a US resort since it was closed to US travelers. Now, I have permanently removed Canada from our travel list. I don't want to inadvertently get caught in the Gulag.
this last Shutdown in Ontario was my last straw, my patience is gone - there is zero end to this psychosis and they are starting to say that publicly now so Im out as soon as I can find this railway gato is referring to.
I'm at a different headspace. The water needs to get HOT before most of the frogs around here go "somethings not right?!?!".
I'm full on board with the truck mandate. Shut the economy down and Let THE BASTARDS STARVE.
I can see the accelerationists point sometimes. The slow motion slide to totalitarianism will get us there eventually, people around these parts are idiots. Crank the heat up to max and see who boils and who wakes the #### up.
I think when kids really start dying from this shit or are permanently injured will be the turning point. I have to believe they will not be able to shut up angry parents.
Even in TN if one parent is against and the other is for, it only takes consent from one parent. Only if you have sole custody can you protect your child. Courts side with the pro vaxxer every time
I wish Rob that there was a place that protected children from mainstream medicine but I have not found it. Courts side with established vax mandates for school and daycare, antivax parents are up shitcreek. This has been the case for the 25 years I've been a parent and antivax most of that time. Something that was twisted up before the pandemic and which we will still have to unravel.
I crossed the land border from Canada into the U.S. on December 27th. US border agent looked at our passport. We were asked where we were going, how long we were staying and did we have any citrus fruit, then welcomed us into the U.S.. Took maybe 3 minutes. Turns out we weren't trapped.
I started searching on November 8th when the border reopened and found a couple dozen comments on twitter of people crossing no problem and know of a few friends of my siblings who've crossed no problem. Only today did I hear of one couple turned back, but they simply tried a 2nd time and crossed. My sister and brother in law should be crossing in a week's time. I don't expect they'll have any trouble. Hoping for the best. At any rate, I experienced no issue and that US border agent was friendly. If you decide on crossing I expect you'll have no problem but I definitely wish you the best of luck if you decide to try it.
That's amazing! would definitely be simpler and less expensive than finding a group to fly in private plane hehe. I'm wondering if some border points are easier to go through than other. are you from quebec by any chance?
I was going to comment that I would gladly hide them both, but I too am in Commiefornia and have no idea how things are going to go. Thank God my boys are young men and all but one is out of the state. Unfortunately the military required those 2 to get the vax, and the 3rd son in state may have to try the religious exemption since vet clinics fall under “healthcare” category.
I cannot believe that it continues after they admitted that the moronic, i mean omicron evades the clot shots. I am sorry for your sons. I hope he can get an exemption. I am ready to throw my kids in the car and drive the moment I get a whiff of BS. One family that we are friends with is currently dealing with a daughter who had a vaccine injury that has caused bells palsy. I had no idea that if you treated it fast enough most can make a full recovery. It shakes you to your core knowing that these injuries and deaths are REAL.
I don't know. I tried to plant the Florida seed but my inlaws freaked out. Shockingly they are more open to Texas, but I don't think my wife nor them really want to leave. I don't get it and it is killing me.
I'm thinking Missouri myself. I'm concerned what's going to happen to Florida with mass migration there. They'll eventually have to close their borders... and then what? Not sure if my concerns are valid yet.
I think concern with Florida is valid. It is a massive battleground state. The D's act like they have to get it back at all costs. All Costs. DeSantis is awesome but what if he leaves? No state feels safe to the insanity of the Left.
Florida has gone Red, we added 274k Republican voters in 2021, lost about 52 k Dem voters, either they changed parties or left. We are gaining about 1000 people daily. It’s a little crazy.
I lived in Quebec until I left in 1978. I was born in 1950 during the Duplessis Era. That time has been referred to as LA Grande Noirceur ( the great darkness). One of the biggest scandals in the 1950's was the Duplessis Orphans. Over 20 thousand orphans were reclassified as mentally ill. By doing this Quebec recieved additional subsidies from Ottawa because it was a higher rate than the one for orphans. This was done with the cooperation of the provincial government, the Catholic Church and the Quebec College of Physcians. It's a horrifying story but a cautionary tale. Particularly the collaboration of the College of Physicians. Fast forward to today. Do we really trust our College of Physicians any more?
Another rabbit hole for your enjoyment.In British Columbia our Minister of Health is Adrian Dix. He served as chief of staff to Premier Glen Clark from 1996 to 1999. He was dismissed for back dating a memo to protect Clark from conflict of interest charges. Huge casino scandal. Governments sure protect and promote their own. So we have a health minister that had no problem lying back then. Why would I ever trust him. I guess people have short memories.
Absolutely. And this time they aren't using the FLQ to terrorize their population. Another dark chapter in their history. I remember when Justin Trudeau's father, Pierre Trudeau,was our Prime Minister and sent tanks and the military into Quebec to quell the uprising.. We were effectively under martial law. I refer you to the October Crisis.
I think more and more we come to understand how absolutely essential our Second Amendment is to our freedom and to our ability to fend off tyranny. If Canada or Germany or Australia had a 2A, their despots might not be so quick to indulge their tyrannical-porn fantasies.
Federalism is surely an essential element as well.
THAT is, ultimately, why there's "American exceptionalism" and no other.
I'm considering heading to the border crossing the migrants are using to get into Canada. I'll retrace their steps heading south. Don't plan on stopping until I reach Florida.
I don't but might be worth a try. Our entire political and health system is tyrannical and getting worse by the day. Canadians are so compliant and trusting most don't even question what's happening. That's what worries me.
This is not a joke. I think we are going to need this soon. I'm extremely thankful my husband and I are both citizens of other countries and we are planning to leave. Very worried about the Canadians who don't have that option.
Michael Jackson is committing a true act of love for his daughter. So, Michael if you are reading this there is a place in Washington State just north of the old mining town of Molson where a US forest service road comes within 75 meters of a accessible road in British Columbia. The land between them is not fenced and there are no buildings in the area. Between the two roads is flat land and could easily driven over in any automobile. Right now there is likely snow cover but in six weeks it should be passable. You can find this point on Google Earth. Best of luck to you, sir. You are indeed a good father.
The thought of my neighbors in Canada being locked into their county - unable to leave makes me sick to my stomach. Communism. I hope there’s an underground secret escape for them. Good luck my neighbors. ❤️
If anyone knows of ways to leave Canada If Unvaxxed i would love to know.
I know private flights are still Doable but would need to find groups to fill the plane ( bc price is per flight so you divide that cost if you can fill the seats)
There's also a way to drive to St Pier and Miquelon French island and leave from there but i think that option is closing soon.
Hey Freddy D, see my post somewhere in this thread. If we let the unvaxxed come in from the south we will surely let them come in from the north, right? What is fair is fair!
A reminder though that each such case is complicated. He seems simultaneously to be a father trying to protect his child from an unnecessary and potentially dangerous medical intervention, and someone motivated to do so partially from Christian cultist beliefs rather than entirely from a rational evaluation of the data.
There are many heartbreaking types of cases in that realm.
Doesn't matter his reasoning. He has or should have the right to make that decision for his child as long as it's not endangering their life which in this case it manifestly is not.
Because a father believed the shots were deadly (which most of us do) and that as a responsible Christian, following God, he was supposed to protect his child, you infer from that that he was a “Christian cultist”?
If a Christian chooses to follow Christ and then does not follow Christ when calls to.... I believe people call that a hypocrite. I should know.
I remember when I derided Christians for their faith, ridiculed THEM as hypocrites and then when they proved true to what they believed was TRUTH? Finally realized if they didn’t preach Christ was the only way, THAT was the hypocrisy. If this man believes the Bible is true and is called to be a protective father, he should do what God calls him to.
I’m not prepared to defend him more because we’re all hypocrites at some level, but I don’t see your point. It seems to me he acted far more rationally than most have.
I think you might have been referring to the term “apostate”? Following Christ and then denying Christ when called to make a choice? Maybe I am reading your comment wrong. If so, I apologize.
Good thought. “Apostate” v “hypocrite” Possibly, i’ll have to philosophically think about it but I’m a word geek. I think “Apostate” carries a more powerful connotation with it, Even to the point of mental decision making that “hypocrite” does not. Hypocrite implies an almost unthinking or, better, default descent into an un-Christlike consciousness where the hypocrite thinks like and loved the world because they have not chosen to love God more. Apostate implies, to me at least, a deliberate decision to negate the God world view as preached by and lived by Jesus. And depicted in the morality and teachings of the Bible. And even a complete, thoughtful rejection of God. It is a totally deliberate position. On the contrary, I’m thinking hypocrisy in my context.
However, those like Trudeau, Fauci and Gates and Soros and Schwab and Biden exhibit apostasy.
I like to remind people that I do not villify people mindlessly like many on Twtr do to our side. I.e. e.g. the false attacks on Dr McCullough, Bhakdi, Malone etc. Trudeau is obvious, he doesn’t even TRY to hide his hatred. Would probably wear the badge of apostate proudly. Fauci deliberately twists facts. Biden (amongst other egregious actions) deliberately defends his son’s immoral actions and goes to church at the same time, Gates killed children in Africa with oral polio and has his hands in EVERY aspect of this plandemic as do Soros and Schwab.
This is HEARTBREAKING. People who want to protect their children are being made into outlaws. This reminds me of how home-birth midwives and pregnant women are treated in my area. It also reminds me of how all the heroic medical providers (who oppose mandatory injections and who are willing to provide early treatment for covid), as well as the police and firefighters and other public servants who *actually* care about protecting people and protecting freedom and morality are now "BAD", and are being chased out of those professions. People who have the guts to stand up for what is right are being criminalized and purged and humiliated and impoverished. It's like the whole world is now one big narcissistic family system, scapegoating the child that is purest of heart.
I faced this situation and many other parents are as well. I just read a court order where the father is banned from seeing his daughter unless he is vaccinated, in the news today. This is no joke. Prime minister Trutard just made an appeal to children 5-11yrs directly to get vaccinated. He literally put the responsibility on them, bypassing the parents.
Madness. Utter madness. Pandemic panic charade exposed and beginning to end even by some of the worst offenders - SCOTUS striking down OSHA mandates, NBA ending COVID surveillance, data exposing danger and ineffectiveness of vaccines, masks, etc., even Bourla and CDC admitting ineffectiveness of vaccines, yet there remain Neanderthals insisting on mandates, testing, masks, travel and restaurant and school and others restrictions. It’s like the guys continually pulling the alarm and yelling fire after the campfire has been extinguished and the campers have packed up and gone home.
I like your positivity but as I and others point out, this is a strategic and feigned retreat. A feigned retreat is, as I learned just yesterday from another post, is a military strategy much like a draw back or feint in boxing or fencing where you draw back or barely and deliberately present a weak side in order to lure the unsuspecting opposing force or person in.
This is not real. Do NOT believe the lie.
However, it may provide s moderate breach in some people’s psychological defenses. Let us all use the reprieve.
I give as clear examples that within the last 14 DAYS both Fauci and Bourla have stated things that sound right and sound wrong.
On the more positive front, a few EU countries and UK may be pulling back from extremist lockdowns and masking etc. but I feel their “niceties” are just another lie to draw people in.
It's not just Canada. A few months back a judge inserted himself into a custody re-negotiation and when found out the dad (or mom?) wasn't vaxxed denied visitation. There was never a mention of the jab , the judge just took it upon himself to ask. USA
I heard that in Cyprus, children must be vaccinated to go to school, and that they don't have a home-school option. Children's Protective Services are threatening to take these children away from their families and relocate them to homes which will promise to vaccinate them. I have friends in Cyprus and need to validate this horrific news! (Mary Holland, of Children's Health Defense, said she heard this from desperate friends there.)
If he was smart, he flew to Mexico then walked across the US border. That way, he could stay in the US as long as he wants, get free food and medical care, legal assistance, free college for his daughter, vote in our elections and never worry about being deported...
Oh that’s be funny. I’m in Texas, id love to see that. Watch Biden’s face as Canadians force their way into USA from the south and we call him to account to treat them with the same “compassion” he showed the Haitians and others.
On the good side, maybe if we ever need blood free from covid we can ask the refugees to donate. Biden didn’t require them to vax so maybe.....?
I looked up on how the vaccine-free can travel from Canada, since we are no longer allowed to board trains or planes. The best I found was to get a private plane (not charter), and fly out from Canada to an airport outside which does not require proof of clot shots. Does it make sense? I am curious to know if anyone has experience on escaping from The Gulag. A small jet (5-7 pax) from Toronto to Miami costs about $24k (just a quote on a website), not sure if it is CAD or USD. Looking for ideas...
Get to Stewart, BC and then cross the border to Hyder, AK.
Last I heard (a few months ago) the border there was completely open - it runs through town and the residents are basically bi-national. The Canadians come over to the U.S. side to buy guns and ammo, and the Americans head the other way for poutine.
Everyone can free flow in thru the southern border. Illegals, criminals, drug runners, future Covid spreaders, future undocumented Dem voters, drains on cities etc with no vax necessary. But let the good people cross thru the north, papers please, shot please. Lord, the hypocrisy.
Ugh, custody battles are the worst, even without disputes about the child's medical care. Poor guy. Poor kid. Praying for them both. And may the child's mother see the light and the courts go easy on this guy.
Boys and girls, be very careful with whom you choose (or don't choose) to procreate.
I remember sadly the day that the folks in the U.K. were talked out of their firearms, and then the folks in Canada, and then the folks in Australia, and each time (I worked for a large company with lots of folks from other countries) I’d ask them how they would resist if their government turned against them, and each time I received responses like “what are you, nuts? That could never happen today. Only crazy people want guns.” Yeah, like the crazy people running your government. Those folks I talked to back then are mighty silent these days. Mainly because it’s illegal for them to speak out now.
I still gots my guns. (canada) for now anyway.
Good luck and I’m proud of you Mike. I’m locked and loaded. Cautious.
I’d be one of those fucking idiots. Fired today. Won’t take the shot, neither will my son. We will find work elsewhere but FUCK EM ALL.
In Canada you can own guns. You need to take the Canadian Firearms Safety course, pass it and then apply for a PAL (possession and acquisition license). This will allow you to own "non-restricted" guns, such as shotguns and hunting rifles. I have a PAL. I'm a hunter. If you want handguns there is another course that you have to take for restricted weapons. To get your PAL you need to apply to the RCMP (the Mounties) who do a background check on you. It takes anywhere from a month to three months to get the PAL. There is a fee for the course and the PAL.
So basically you can own the guns they allow you to own if you jump through many hoops and pay a lot of money. And of course they track those that have them meticulously so that they know where to go first to disarm people.
It’s does help to have coin but not necessary. For competitive shooting hell yes. We shoot~35-40k between my wife and I. Got an automated reloading press to keep up. One hell of an addictive hobby.
Sounds exactly like Chicago.
kinda, It's not the USA, but then it isn't exactly disarmed.
Which you can’t get u less you’re vaccinated now. I looked into it 6 months ago, you can’t write the exam.
In Canada? If it’s inside a building depends if they want the pass. Our club does PAL f rPAL no vax required.
Interesting. I did not know that. Hmmmmmm
In Australia you can own guns. The process is much the same as John Hemingway just outlined for Canada. I find comments like 'This wouldn't be happening if Australia still had their guns' a little problematic. The fact is that I would need significantly more provocation than what we currently have before I would be 'willing' to shoot another human being, who is likely only doing his/her best to survive, just like me. Sitting on my front verandah, 50km from town, brandishing my .270 doesn't do anything to further the cause & I doubt it causes anyone to take me seriously. Guns aren't the answer at this point in time. The majority of people I know own guns. If I needed a gun to feel safe then I probably still wouldn't feel safe WITH the gun.
Let me put it to you like this-in America there are more privately owned firearms (only counting legally owned ones) than ALL the militaries of ALL The countries that make up the UN COMBINED.
We are the largest fighting force on planet earth. Believe-If Americans didn’t have the firepower we do, if they had managed to disarm us prior to this covid madness, the whole world would look like the worst parts of Australia do now. They haven’t moved against us as aggressively-nor others as aggressively, because they know if they stir up the American civilian army they cannot hope to win.
Believe. Our guns keep us, and many others, safe. They’re still trying to boil the frog slowly as it were-but they can’t make the kind of clutch moves they must here to enact full tyranny because of the firepower waiting for them. If only 10% activate that is 30 million guns on the ground for patriots.
I’m ready. Standing by. Legally and peacefully.
Yonder Obowelmao, ascending the hill. the.......bitter clingers'!!
SWEET
Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only thing that's been holding back the fascists in the United States from doing away with our Constitutional protections is the knowledge that our society is incredibly well armed, and that legal gun owners are very law abiding.
If you look at the outsized response of our wonderful elected representatives to the Jan 6 stupidity, literally walling off the capitol and bringing in hordes of armed National Guard to "protect" them, then you will understand that the american fascists are quite aware of just how well armed the American citizenry actually is.
No need to start shooting.
What would you do if they came at you with a syringe of something that might kill your or your kids? Forced in on you if you want to keep participating in a society that you essentially pay for with your taxes? Or stopped you from going outside to gather food for your family? Or forcing you out of a job that is necessary to keep the roof over your families heads? Or held you in a locked room with no windows, no cell phone for an extended period of time with 1 meal a day and no water? Just curious.
Or like Dr Mel Bruchet, a gentle doctor whose only crime was publicly revealing large numbers of stillbirths at his hospital? Taken into custody by 6 Royal Canadian Officers and turned over to a psych facility, declared to have dementia (had previously been speaking quite rationally at vaccine mandate freedom rallies) and given the choice of taking an Oral psych drug or be injected with same, and said drug was not approved for 81 year old and had been proven to cause strokes.
This is just too far past where everyone in Canada needs to say no...and here in the US. Can we get the underground railroad started again? El Gato Malo's kitten suggested...
This is horrible. As El Gato said, we need to have an Underground Railroad for those seeking to escape the tyranny in Canada. Or a secret rescue mission for someone like Dr. Bruchet
Unfortunately, most people think that it’s just not yet the right time to resist. They keep thinking it until they’re being prodded into the “showers”. I assure you that the time to resist was *before* they started putting your neighbors into COVID camps.
What’s most needed for protection these days is a backbone. Sadly, it appears most of them have already been confiscated.
I've shot revolver matches with a few shooters from Australia. (pre covid)
We've never 'had guns' here in the UK, it's never been part of our culture. There's some ownership here, eg farmers and game hunters, but that's it. Probably why we don't suffer with mass shootings https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
Brits like the knife
Mainly teenage boys do. We have a big problem with gang violence. It's hard to kill a lot of people with knives though, not quite the same coverage as gun, and you have to get *really* close.
Not only did the government talk you out of your guns, they somehow talked you out of remembering that you had them. Your own government bragged about taking 200k handguns from the public in the 1990s.
Handguns were banned after a school massacre in 1996. Guess how many school shootings we've had since? It's legal to own rifles and shotguns, but as I said, it's not in our culture and hence why we have so very few gun deaths. I'm not in any way suggesting you in America give up your guns as I know how entrenched they are in your culture. However, you have to objectively agree that hundreds of thousands of people died before their time due to bullet injuries.
North London can be an interesting place. I know of UK estate areas (subsidized complexes) where the police need an armed patrol (such patrols are quite rare, a very big deal) to enter. But indeed the psychos are better managed in the UK. Less concern over people entering mental hospitals.
I live in canada. It's a cesspool. why do they call him " antivax" dad? The JCIV out of the UK does not recommend vaccinating healthy children. Love how these news outlets think the science is settled.
Don’t be silly, nobody at these outlets is thinking.
Our media is evil.
They don’t think the science is settled but as long as some “scientists” share their view that’s enough for them.
In 2021 we had planned a ski trip to Canada, but had to switch to a US resort since it was closed to US travelers. Now, I have permanently removed Canada from our travel list. I don't want to inadvertently get caught in the Gulag.
I live in a border state and NO WAY am I crossing that border. Maybe never again.
As far as that stuff, it's probably safer to travel to North Korea at this point ...
More likely that North Korea is coming to you :-)
LOL. Getting there by leaps and bounds.
I don’t blame you
Canada is so fucked up right now, it's frightening. And it's almost there's nothing we can do besides moving south.
this last Shutdown in Ontario was my last straw, my patience is gone - there is zero end to this psychosis and they are starting to say that publicly now so Im out as soon as I can find this railway gato is referring to.
I'm at a different headspace. The water needs to get HOT before most of the frogs around here go "somethings not right?!?!".
I'm full on board with the truck mandate. Shut the economy down and Let THE BASTARDS STARVE.
I can see the accelerationists point sometimes. The slow motion slide to totalitarianism will get us there eventually, people around these parts are idiots. Crank the heat up to max and see who boils and who wakes the #### up.
Rant over.
I’d rather watch that fire from
The outside not in it
Doug Casey moved to Uruguay years ago so he could "watch the collapse on TV". He was so right.
Not sure I'd want to be in any South American country right now.
true. but it's not like I can go anywhere. besides those of us eyes wide open need to awaken others. i do what I can at my biz.
It's a good rant. I'm right there with you.
I think when kids really start dying from this shit or are permanently injured will be the turning point. I have to believe they will not be able to shut up angry parents.
They’ve already died. And been permanently injured.
In Canada the majority of them are in TO - it’s a despised hell hole by all that don’t live in it for good reason
Suburb of TO here 😑
I feel you.. from quebec..
So no big box stores for you! Legualt is barking mad.
no big store, no liquor or weed store too, even for delivery.. Possible Unvaxxed tax
WHAT??????? How the #### are they going to know when it's delivered? He truly is bonkers.
They will make delivery people scan our qr codes lol. Dont worry its for our safety
Hugs Freddy
They’ll have to make it as far south as Tennessee to reach a Free State.
No, they just have to make it to North Dakota or Montana.
True enough. I was just playing off the idea of the Underground Railroad, which ran from the Deep South.
Even in TN if one parent is against and the other is for, it only takes consent from one parent. Only if you have sole custody can you protect your child. Courts side with the pro vaxxer every time
OK. Florida, then.
I wish Rob that there was a place that protected children from mainstream medicine but I have not found it. Courts side with established vax mandates for school and daycare, antivax parents are up shitcreek. This has been the case for the 25 years I've been a parent and antivax most of that time. Something that was twisted up before the pandemic and which we will still have to unravel.
TN is being infiltrated by idiots from Chicago. I’m really worried for TN
Look at how they label him, an antivax dad. Similar to a "dangerous runaway slave." This is crazy 🥴🥴
Your recognition of how this is similar to usage of "dangerous runaway slave" hit me right in the soft part of my history brain. Well done!
Hit me too, like when I watched "Roots," for the first time 😳
Have you seen 12 Years a Slave? Incredibly powerful film.
I haven't. I will jot that one down. Building up a nice list🏋️🏋️
Im in Ontario - anyone know how to move to the USA? Not for me.......for a friend.....honest. To Texas, Florida.....I....they.....like both ideas
Just read a blog where people in Oklahoma welcome every vaxx refugee from NY so I think they will gladly accept Canadians too
You can try ! Oklahomans are nice folks IMO.
Going back to 1979 hanging out with Canadians in Watertown, NY. Smoking on the river in a paddle boat. Good times, no restrictions.
ahh. sunsets on Lake Ontario... such memories...
Wait! All those private boats going along the shores of the Lake (crossing borders) "Over Water Railroad"?
Would love to find a way too. can't leave canada since nov 30th as well.
I crossed the land border from Canada into the U.S. on December 27th. US border agent looked at our passport. We were asked where we were going, how long we were staying and did we have any citrus fruit, then welcomed us into the U.S.. Took maybe 3 minutes. Turns out we weren't trapped.
Woo do you know of any other people just going through like you did? I need to give this a try !
I started searching on November 8th when the border reopened and found a couple dozen comments on twitter of people crossing no problem and know of a few friends of my siblings who've crossed no problem. Only today did I hear of one couple turned back, but they simply tried a 2nd time and crossed. My sister and brother in law should be crossing in a week's time. I don't expect they'll have any trouble. Hoping for the best. At any rate, I experienced no issue and that US border agent was friendly. If you decide on crossing I expect you'll have no problem but I definitely wish you the best of luck if you decide to try it.
That's amazing! would definitely be simpler and less expensive than finding a group to fly in private plane hehe. I'm wondering if some border points are easier to go through than other. are you from quebec by any chance?
Where are they crossing? Hopefully, Detroit. Michiganders are super friendly and helpful!!
I could become him shortly living here in the Communist State of California. Godspeed Dad!
I was going to comment that I would gladly hide them both, but I too am in Commiefornia and have no idea how things are going to go. Thank God my boys are young men and all but one is out of the state. Unfortunately the military required those 2 to get the vax, and the 3rd son in state may have to try the religious exemption since vet clinics fall under “healthcare” category.
I cannot believe that it continues after they admitted that the moronic, i mean omicron evades the clot shots. I am sorry for your sons. I hope he can get an exemption. I am ready to throw my kids in the car and drive the moment I get a whiff of BS. One family that we are friends with is currently dealing with a daughter who had a vaccine injury that has caused bells palsy. I had no idea that if you treated it fast enough most can make a full recovery. It shakes you to your core knowing that these injuries and deaths are REAL.
To where will you go, do you think? I'm in same boat.
I don't know. I tried to plant the Florida seed but my inlaws freaked out. Shockingly they are more open to Texas, but I don't think my wife nor them really want to leave. I don't get it and it is killing me.
I'm thinking Missouri myself. I'm concerned what's going to happen to Florida with mass migration there. They'll eventually have to close their borders... and then what? Not sure if my concerns are valid yet.
I think concern with Florida is valid. It is a massive battleground state. The D's act like they have to get it back at all costs. All Costs. DeSantis is awesome but what if he leaves? No state feels safe to the insanity of the Left.
Florida has gone Red, we added 274k Republican voters in 2021, lost about 52 k Dem voters, either they changed parties or left. We are gaining about 1000 people daily. It’s a little crazy.
It’s a mob scene here! And housing is through the roof, even the rentals raising rent because of demand. Crazy.
This is so sad and the US is no better. When parents split over the vax issue, courts support the pro vax parent every time.
Canada is in deep! I had no idea this could happen so quickly and so completely.
Quebec is leading the charge!
I lived in Quebec until I left in 1978. I was born in 1950 during the Duplessis Era. That time has been referred to as LA Grande Noirceur ( the great darkness). One of the biggest scandals in the 1950's was the Duplessis Orphans. Over 20 thousand orphans were reclassified as mentally ill. By doing this Quebec recieved additional subsidies from Ottawa because it was a higher rate than the one for orphans. This was done with the cooperation of the provincial government, the Catholic Church and the Quebec College of Physcians. It's a horrifying story but a cautionary tale. Particularly the collaboration of the College of Physicians. Fast forward to today. Do we really trust our College of Physicians any more?
Read this substack written in response to a group of activists opposed to Joe Rogan/Malone interview. https://wholistic.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-to-the-doctors-trying?r=7cfw0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Thank u
Thank u for that historical tidbit. I'll look it up. Love stuff like that.
Another rabbit hole for your enjoyment.In British Columbia our Minister of Health is Adrian Dix. He served as chief of staff to Premier Glen Clark from 1996 to 1999. He was dismissed for back dating a memo to protect Clark from conflict of interest charges. Huge casino scandal. Governments sure protect and promote their own. So we have a health minister that had no problem lying back then. Why would I ever trust him. I guess people have short memories.
Good stuff 👍
Absolutely. And this time they aren't using the FLQ to terrorize their population. Another dark chapter in their history. I remember when Justin Trudeau's father, Pierre Trudeau,was our Prime Minister and sent tanks and the military into Quebec to quell the uprising.. We were effectively under martial law. I refer you to the October Crisis.
Seriously? Maybe being right of centre I have a different outlook….
I think more and more we come to understand how absolutely essential our Second Amendment is to our freedom and to our ability to fend off tyranny. If Canada or Germany or Australia had a 2A, their despots might not be so quick to indulge their tyrannical-porn fantasies.
Federalism is surely an essential element as well.
THAT is, ultimately, why there's "American exceptionalism" and no other.
Hero
I'm considering heading to the border crossing the migrants are using to get into Canada. I'll retrace their steps heading south. Don't plan on stopping until I reach Florida.
Talk about putting the Underground Railroad into a different context!
Do you know if it works both way (To enter USA from canada) or just from US to CA?
I don't but might be worth a try. Our entire political and health system is tyrannical and getting worse by the day. Canadians are so compliant and trusting most don't even question what's happening. That's what worries me.
The compliance is the saddest part in my opinion. Critical thinking is almost nowhere to be found.
Isn't our education system grand?
Go Dad Go! Canada leadership and media have gone full-on Totalitarian!
This is not a joke. I think we are going to need this soon. I'm extremely thankful my husband and I are both citizens of other countries and we are planning to leave. Very worried about the Canadians who don't have that option.
Already left
This is quite the thriller. He’s bad, you know it. Just beat it.
But can he Moonwalk?
Only the man in the mirror knows.
It certainly sounds like he's living off the wall.
You could ask Billie Jean.
Godspeed, my man.
He can go to Roxham Road in Quebec where the police are allowing illegal aliens to stream in unmolested. Easy way to get into the states!
Michael Jackson is committing a true act of love for his daughter. So, Michael if you are reading this there is a place in Washington State just north of the old mining town of Molson where a US forest service road comes within 75 meters of a accessible road in British Columbia. The land between them is not fenced and there are no buildings in the area. Between the two roads is flat land and could easily driven over in any automobile. Right now there is likely snow cover but in six weeks it should be passable. You can find this point on Google Earth. Best of luck to you, sir. You are indeed a good father.
But try to get out of that state as fast as you can. Run from Inslee.
The thought of my neighbors in Canada being locked into their county - unable to leave makes me sick to my stomach. Communism. I hope there’s an underground secret escape for them. Good luck my neighbors. ❤️
This is outrageous!!! I cannot belive that we are living to see this in 21st century. Hope he makes it to US
If anyone knows of ways to leave Canada If Unvaxxed i would love to know.
I know private flights are still Doable but would need to find groups to fill the plane ( bc price is per flight so you divide that cost if you can fill the seats)
There's also a way to drive to St Pier and Miquelon French island and leave from there but i think that option is closing soon.
Hey Freddy D, see my post somewhere in this thread. If we let the unvaxxed come in from the south we will surely let them come in from the north, right? What is fair is fair!
A reminder though that each such case is complicated. He seems simultaneously to be a father trying to protect his child from an unnecessary and potentially dangerous medical intervention, and someone motivated to do so partially from Christian cultist beliefs rather than entirely from a rational evaluation of the data.
There are many heartbreaking types of cases in that realm.
Doesn't matter his reasoning. He has or should have the right to make that decision for his child as long as it's not endangering their life which in this case it manifestly is not.
Because a father believed the shots were deadly (which most of us do) and that as a responsible Christian, following God, he was supposed to protect his child, you infer from that that he was a “Christian cultist”?
If a Christian chooses to follow Christ and then does not follow Christ when calls to.... I believe people call that a hypocrite. I should know.
I remember when I derided Christians for their faith, ridiculed THEM as hypocrites and then when they proved true to what they believed was TRUTH? Finally realized if they didn’t preach Christ was the only way, THAT was the hypocrisy. If this man believes the Bible is true and is called to be a protective father, he should do what God calls him to.
I’m not prepared to defend him more because we’re all hypocrites at some level, but I don’t see your point. It seems to me he acted far more rationally than most have.
I think you might have been referring to the term “apostate”? Following Christ and then denying Christ when called to make a choice? Maybe I am reading your comment wrong. If so, I apologize.
Good thought. “Apostate” v “hypocrite” Possibly, i’ll have to philosophically think about it but I’m a word geek. I think “Apostate” carries a more powerful connotation with it, Even to the point of mental decision making that “hypocrite” does not. Hypocrite implies an almost unthinking or, better, default descent into an un-Christlike consciousness where the hypocrite thinks like and loved the world because they have not chosen to love God more. Apostate implies, to me at least, a deliberate decision to negate the God world view as preached by and lived by Jesus. And depicted in the morality and teachings of the Bible. And even a complete, thoughtful rejection of God. It is a totally deliberate position. On the contrary, I’m thinking hypocrisy in my context.
However, those like Trudeau, Fauci and Gates and Soros and Schwab and Biden exhibit apostasy.
I like to remind people that I do not villify people mindlessly like many on Twtr do to our side. I.e. e.g. the false attacks on Dr McCullough, Bhakdi, Malone etc. Trudeau is obvious, he doesn’t even TRY to hide his hatred. Would probably wear the badge of apostate proudly. Fauci deliberately twists facts. Biden (amongst other egregious actions) deliberately defends his son’s immoral actions and goes to church at the same time, Gates killed children in Africa with oral polio and has his hands in EVERY aspect of this plandemic as do Soros and Schwab.
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This is HEARTBREAKING. People who want to protect their children are being made into outlaws. This reminds me of how home-birth midwives and pregnant women are treated in my area. It also reminds me of how all the heroic medical providers (who oppose mandatory injections and who are willing to provide early treatment for covid), as well as the police and firefighters and other public servants who *actually* care about protecting people and protecting freedom and morality are now "BAD", and are being chased out of those professions. People who have the guts to stand up for what is right are being criminalized and purged and humiliated and impoverished. It's like the whole world is now one big narcissistic family system, scapegoating the child that is purest of heart.
really so sad that trying to keep your child healthy is a considered a crime.
canada running close to 1950 moscow for freedom!
I faced this situation and many other parents are as well. I just read a court order where the father is banned from seeing his daughter unless he is vaccinated, in the news today. This is no joke. Prime minister Trutard just made an appeal to children 5-11yrs directly to get vaccinated. He literally put the responsibility on them, bypassing the parents.
Madness. Utter madness. Pandemic panic charade exposed and beginning to end even by some of the worst offenders - SCOTUS striking down OSHA mandates, NBA ending COVID surveillance, data exposing danger and ineffectiveness of vaccines, masks, etc., even Bourla and CDC admitting ineffectiveness of vaccines, yet there remain Neanderthals insisting on mandates, testing, masks, travel and restaurant and school and others restrictions. It’s like the guys continually pulling the alarm and yelling fire after the campfire has been extinguished and the campers have packed up and gone home.
I like your positivity but as I and others point out, this is a strategic and feigned retreat. A feigned retreat is, as I learned just yesterday from another post, is a military strategy much like a draw back or feint in boxing or fencing where you draw back or barely and deliberately present a weak side in order to lure the unsuspecting opposing force or person in.
This is not real. Do NOT believe the lie.
However, it may provide s moderate breach in some people’s psychological defenses. Let us all use the reprieve.
I give as clear examples that within the last 14 DAYS both Fauci and Bourla have stated things that sound right and sound wrong.
On the more positive front, a few EU countries and UK may be pulling back from extremist lockdowns and masking etc. but I feel their “niceties” are just another lie to draw people in.
It's not just Canada. A few months back a judge inserted himself into a custody re-negotiation and when found out the dad (or mom?) wasn't vaxxed denied visitation. There was never a mention of the jab , the judge just took it upon himself to ask. USA
Wow this guy is a SMOOTH CRIMINAL.
I see what you did there.
Go Michael Jackson--all of our best wishes and hopes for your success go out to you!!!
Our young men also used to escape northward to avoid conscription during the Vietnam war. We're in the upside down world.
I heard that in Cyprus, children must be vaccinated to go to school, and that they don't have a home-school option. Children's Protective Services are threatening to take these children away from their families and relocate them to homes which will promise to vaccinate them. I have friends in Cyprus and need to validate this horrific news! (Mary Holland, of Children's Health Defense, said she heard this from desperate friends there.)
I hope he manages to keep his daughter safe.
...and his name is Michael Jackson?
Is this some sort of Reality Show we are living through?
Oh Micron! Our home is now vax land!
True regime love in all of them command.
With glowing arms we see athletes fall,
The True North trapped and mauled!
From far and wide,
Oh Micron, they stand on us for fee.
God free our land from terror not for me!
Oh Micron, they stand on us for fee.
Oh Micron, they stand on us for fee.
What did I just read- that’s horrifying. This poor man!
prayin for both
If he was smart, he flew to Mexico then walked across the US border. That way, he could stay in the US as long as he wants, get free food and medical care, legal assistance, free college for his daughter, vote in our elections and never worry about being deported...
Oh that’s be funny. I’m in Texas, id love to see that. Watch Biden’s face as Canadians force their way into USA from the south and we call him to account to treat them with the same “compassion” he showed the Haitians and others.
On the good side, maybe if we ever need blood free from covid we can ask the refugees to donate. Biden didn’t require them to vax so maybe.....?
I'd help.
My bag is packed I’m ready. FUCK THIS SHIT.
I looked up on how the vaccine-free can travel from Canada, since we are no longer allowed to board trains or planes. The best I found was to get a private plane (not charter), and fly out from Canada to an airport outside which does not require proof of clot shots. Does it make sense? I am curious to know if anyone has experience on escaping from The Gulag. A small jet (5-7 pax) from Toronto to Miami costs about $24k (just a quote on a website), not sure if it is CAD or USD. Looking for ideas...
Get to Stewart, BC and then cross the border to Hyder, AK.
Last I heard (a few months ago) the border there was completely open - it runs through town and the residents are basically bi-national. The Canadians come over to the U.S. side to buy guns and ammo, and the Americans head the other way for poutine.
From Hyder you can charter a boat or seaplane.
Everyone can free flow in thru the southern border. Illegals, criminals, drug runners, future Covid spreaders, future undocumented Dem voters, drains on cities etc with no vax necessary. But let the good people cross thru the north, papers please, shot please. Lord, the hypocrisy.
Hope everyone is watching vivafrei.
Here is the "Parental rights subjugated to Covid mania"
https://rumble.com/vsjmxl-parental-rights-subjugated-to-covid-mania.html
Ugh, custody battles are the worst, even without disputes about the child's medical care. Poor guy. Poor kid. Praying for them both. And may the child's mother see the light and the courts go easy on this guy.
Boys and girls, be very careful with whom you choose (or don't choose) to procreate.
I personally know people that have done this , right now
wow. this is sickkkkk
CALL OUT THE DOGS. PUT OUT AN APB. IT’S PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE.
I might be joining him. Rolling out the shots for kids in Japan this March.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/01/20/national/pfizer-vaccine-ok-children/?utm_source=pianoDNU&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=72&pnespid=_u7AlJpZ7LDfp.Dppk_37ORM5AkY_XFrgx11H0Jt7UCVYD_eamG2z66yzYf_4Ekp6nnMIA
Hey el gato malo- I signed up for an annual subscription, my card was banged but now I don't get any of your new posts.
Please check as I got them all fine up until I paid for the privilege. This is a 3rd party post I'm commenting on.
Thanks!