So if we remove ONLY those with at least FOUR (!!) comorbidities, the US death toll FROM the Chinese virus drops from 836,000 to 209,000.
Take another 10% off for those with THREE comorbidities and the death toll is roughly double the death toll from the 2018/19 seasonal influenza season, or 125,000.
So if we remove ONLY those with at least FOUR (!!) comorbidities, the US death toll FROM the Chinese virus drops from 836,000 to 209,000.
Take another 10% off for those with THREE comorbidities and the death toll is roughly double the death toll from the 2018/19 seasonal influenza season, or 125,000.
We've given the keys to the kingdom to the most evil, corrupt, incompetent among us over AT MOST 125,000 deaths.
(And if you keep removing those with comorbidities, the 2 and the 1, and look at ONLY those who died with zero comorbidities...you'll get down to around 50,000 which, Voila!, is 6% of the 836,000 total. And that 6% is what the CDC floated roughly a year or more ago. So they've known this ALL ALONG, and yet they continued to destroy America by hiding this information.
When we burn down the alphabet legacy media and salt the earth where they stood, we should do the same to the CDC. And hey, are both the CDC and CNN in Atlanta? General Sherman, where art thou?)
I wonder whether that has been part of any tests of the deceased. IOW, whether that comorbidity is unknowable. Because yeah, if that is part of blood work or whatever that is typically done on the dead, it could be a hugely important piece of info.
Yes I think I have research here on testing postmortem. In the cohorts I have seen, there were no deaths in patients with a level above 35ng/ml. And I have seen calculations indicating that the USRDA for D is off by an order of magnitude.
In my case, I take 6000iu/day, plus zinc and quercetin. I have had 3 extended exposures to cv19 cases and no symptoms. Unknown if it's the D/etc or preexisting cross-reactivity from something else.
It is D. I've been on 10,000 iu/day for three years+. Husband had covid in 2020 (November) and neither myself nor our kids (one an infant at the time) ever got covid - older kid was always on vit D and baby got it through breastmilk.
I was always stunned that the death of a apparently healthy 29 year old never got any investigation or follow-up. Maybe it was done, maybe not. But the lack of curiosity amazed me. Just like 'science' isn't interested in why some people despite considerable exposure, like sleeping with your mate, never get ill. Nope, vaccines will fix it according to 'science'. Many deluding politicos later we arrive at failure. Mass hysteria indeed, affecting our learned experts.
Excellent revision. And once all comorbidities and VitD deficients and other ailments and the PCR cycle rate set to Ct24, we'll probably be down to, say, less than 1%? Maybe 0%?
"And that 6% is what the CDC floated roughly a year or more ago."
Yes, this has been out there already, quite some time ago. I was kind of amazed that they let that slip at the time. But of course it got no traction and so it went down the memory hole.
Now take the 21,000 reported vaccine deaths from VAERS and multiply by the typical underreporting factor of ten, and we can see that vaccine deaths exceed virus deaths.
Why do we continue to play "German Roulette" by spinning the cylinder and taking another shot? By three spins, you are already on borrowed time - by 6, you'd better feel REAL lucky, punk!
Funny how you count a single influenza season but the covid deaths never reset - they only accumulate. So on a per season basis the 209k total covid deaths for almost 2 years become less than the influenza 2018/19 season.
Another fun fact: Cigarettes kill more than 8Mil per year (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tobacco) and covid has made it with all the with-vs-from-covid shenanigans to 5.5Mil in almost 2 years. Why don't we just stop smoking and get infected. it will be net positive. I mean stop smoking tobacco, we don't want to overreact here.
I would imagine that a significant portion of those killed by influenza also have comorbidities so its not a perfect comparison. But yeah, I would be somewhat surprised if it was over 50K that died mostly due to COVID.
Yeah, excellent point. It's not a great comparison. Good thing today was the first day I took it out for a spin! I shan't make that mistake again.
Perhaps the most reliable outcome from all this is the realization that none of the numbers coming from CDC are reliable. That they have been so perverted and distorted by so many influences (hey, let's pay hospitals for each covid death!) that they are largely meaningless.
Whaaaatttt? Unbelievable to think our saintly hospitals might take liberties with COVID being a cause of death just to make more money. They would never do such a thing. [wink]
When we consider that covid coincided perfectly with the roll out of 5g, and that the virus has never been isolated (computer generated models don't count), then we have to consider that covid is not caused by a virus. Which indicates that what few illnesses we are seeing are reactions to 5g and more recently, the toxic jabs.
Not only has the virus been isolated, your can purchase "live" specimens that will grow (replicate) for $2k if you have a bsl3 lab. And if you don't have a lab, for $10M or so you can pay a bsl3 lab to do grow it & experiment on it for you.
Some guy saying it has been isolated and not offering any proof doesn't count. Just because he says some influential people also claim it exists, is not showing me any virus. Show me the isolated virus. And then prove its causative.
It's still in contention. A virus can be 'cultured' in a lab, that does not prove it's been isolated from a sick patient. You can buy SARS-CoV-2 from many outlets. The fact that's it's for sale and profitable is another issue, a very dirty issue at that. But from all the research and umpteen FOI requests I've seen, not one country has been able to deliver or acknowledge a live SARS-CoV-2 virus purified from a sick patient. The 'specimen' used as a target match for all PCR tests is a computer-generated sequence. Please prove me wrong.
I agree that 5g is a confounding factor. I recently read Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg and there is no doubt that electricity is an environmental contaminant. However it does not necessarily follow that the virus doesn't exist. The flu virus appears to be activated by electrical activity, but the viral particles exist and have been studied extensively, while at the same time, contagion is not proven. One of the reasons I support Children's Health Defense is their acknowledgement of electricity as an environmental pollutant and their ongoing case against the FCC which has not updated wireless safety recommendations for 25 years
Add in the FDA for sure, and FDA officials have to be led through the streets to jeering and derision. Perhaps on a rail. Tarred and feathered (or with feathers replaced by hypodermic needles stuck in them).
So if we remove ONLY those with at least FOUR (!!) comorbidities, the US death toll FROM the Chinese virus drops from 836,000 to 209,000.
Take another 10% off for those with THREE comorbidities and the death toll is roughly double the death toll from the 2018/19 seasonal influenza season, or 125,000.
We've given the keys to the kingdom to the most evil, corrupt, incompetent among us over AT MOST 125,000 deaths.
(And if you keep removing those with comorbidities, the 2 and the 1, and look at ONLY those who died with zero comorbidities...you'll get down to around 50,000 which, Voila!, is 6% of the 836,000 total. And that 6% is what the CDC floated roughly a year or more ago. So they've known this ALL ALONG, and yet they continued to destroy America by hiding this information.
When we burn down the alphabet legacy media and salt the earth where they stood, we should do the same to the CDC. And hey, are both the CDC and CNN in Atlanta? General Sherman, where art thou?)
If you include people with vitamin D deficiency as comorbid, I would argue that the death toll drops to under 1000.
I wonder whether that has been part of any tests of the deceased. IOW, whether that comorbidity is unknowable. Because yeah, if that is part of blood work or whatever that is typically done on the dead, it could be a hugely important piece of info.
Yes I think I have research here on testing postmortem. In the cohorts I have seen, there were no deaths in patients with a level above 35ng/ml. And I have seen calculations indicating that the USRDA for D is off by an order of magnitude.
In my case, I take 6000iu/day, plus zinc and quercetin. I have had 3 extended exposures to cv19 cases and no symptoms. Unknown if it's the D/etc or preexisting cross-reactivity from something else.
It is D. I've been on 10,000 iu/day for three years+. Husband had covid in 2020 (November) and neither myself nor our kids (one an infant at the time) ever got covid - older kid was always on vit D and baby got it through breastmilk.
Good for you for being wise!
Found one:
https://e-nrp.org/DOIx.php?id=10.4162/nrp.2021.15.S1.S32
I was always stunned that the death of a apparently healthy 29 year old never got any investigation or follow-up. Maybe it was done, maybe not. But the lack of curiosity amazed me. Just like 'science' isn't interested in why some people despite considerable exposure, like sleeping with your mate, never get ill. Nope, vaccines will fix it according to 'science'. Many deluding politicos later we arrive at failure. Mass hysteria indeed, affecting our learned experts.
Good point!
Excellent revision. And once all comorbidities and VitD deficients and other ailments and the PCR cycle rate set to Ct24, we'll probably be down to, say, less than 1%? Maybe 0%?
"And that 6% is what the CDC floated roughly a year or more ago."
Yes, this has been out there already, quite some time ago. I was kind of amazed that they let that slip at the time. But of course it got no traction and so it went down the memory hole.
Now take the 21,000 reported vaccine deaths from VAERS and multiply by the typical underreporting factor of ten, and we can see that vaccine deaths exceed virus deaths.
Why do we continue to play "German Roulette" by spinning the cylinder and taking another shot? By three spins, you are already on borrowed time - by 6, you'd better feel REAL lucky, punk!
Kirsh says undercount is more like 41. But 10 is enough to speak worry for those not on the drug of politics.
Funny how you count a single influenza season but the covid deaths never reset - they only accumulate. So on a per season basis the 209k total covid deaths for almost 2 years become less than the influenza 2018/19 season.
Another fun fact: Cigarettes kill more than 8Mil per year (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tobacco) and covid has made it with all the with-vs-from-covid shenanigans to 5.5Mil in almost 2 years. Why don't we just stop smoking and get infected. it will be net positive. I mean stop smoking tobacco, we don't want to overreact here.
Year 2098 Headline: COVID has killed 98% of the population from 2019.
elGato's comment to the headline in 2098: oddly enough, the remaining 2% are all unvaxxed
Right!
Yes. And, not to mention those harmed by the jabs.
And if you don't count pneumonia with the flu, flu deaths are like in the hundreds.
When they combined them, it was done to build fear to get flu shots
Such an obvious overstatement of deaths from Day 1.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/the-covid-death-toll-is-phony
I have lots of matches. We ride at dawn!
I would imagine that a significant portion of those killed by influenza also have comorbidities so its not a perfect comparison. But yeah, I would be somewhat surprised if it was over 50K that died mostly due to COVID.
Yeah, excellent point. It's not a great comparison. Good thing today was the first day I took it out for a spin! I shan't make that mistake again.
Perhaps the most reliable outcome from all this is the realization that none of the numbers coming from CDC are reliable. That they have been so perverted and distorted by so many influences (hey, let's pay hospitals for each covid death!) that they are largely meaningless.
Whaaaatttt? Unbelievable to think our saintly hospitals might take liberties with COVID being a cause of death just to make more money. They would never do such a thing. [wink]
When we consider that covid coincided perfectly with the roll out of 5g, and that the virus has never been isolated (computer generated models don't count), then we have to consider that covid is not caused by a virus. Which indicates that what few illnesses we are seeing are reactions to 5g and more recently, the toxic jabs.
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/emfs-5g-vaccines-the-real-causes
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/solutions-on-freedom
Not only has the virus been isolated, your can purchase "live" specimens that will grow (replicate) for $2k if you have a bsl3 lab. And if you don't have a lab, for $10M or so you can pay a bsl3 lab to do grow it & experiment on it for you.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/has-the-virus-been-isolated-yes
Oh sh!t another hijacked thread.
Both of these claims are in error
Show me the virus.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/has-the-virus-been-isolated-yes
Also several million genome sequences have been mapped
Some guy saying it has been isolated and not offering any proof doesn't count. Just because he says some influential people also claim it exists, is not showing me any virus. Show me the isolated virus. And then prove its causative.
You apparently didn't follow the link. "Some guy" has been assured by leading researchers (eg vanden Bossche) that ot exists
Oh, & his article includes links to 2 labs where you can buy live specimens.
It's still in contention. A virus can be 'cultured' in a lab, that does not prove it's been isolated from a sick patient. You can buy SARS-CoV-2 from many outlets. The fact that's it's for sale and profitable is another issue, a very dirty issue at that. But from all the research and umpteen FOI requests I've seen, not one country has been able to deliver or acknowledge a live SARS-CoV-2 virus purified from a sick patient. The 'specimen' used as a target match for all PCR tests is a computer-generated sequence. Please prove me wrong.
I don't need to prove you wrong. Kirsch explains it on his article, linked a few times now.
Btw, you just changed the topic from "has the virus been isolated" to "has it been isolated from sick person in purified form."
I agree that 5g is a confounding factor. I recently read Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg and there is no doubt that electricity is an environmental contaminant. However it does not necessarily follow that the virus doesn't exist. The flu virus appears to be activated by electrical activity, but the viral particles exist and have been studied extensively, while at the same time, contagion is not proven. One of the reasons I support Children's Health Defense is their acknowledgement of electricity as an environmental pollutant and their ongoing case against the FCC which has not updated wireless safety recommendations for 25 years
Don't forget the NIH....
think it’s gonna take something stronger than salt to purify that kinda evil... just saying.
The cdc director is referring to omicron only though.
She's saying that the Omicron deaths were 75% among those with 4 or more comorbidities?
Was she not asked for the numbers for the other variants?
She skipped the question. She was asked of the 836,000 deaths how many were WITH Covid and how many were from. No answer.
Add in the FDA for sure, and FDA officials have to be led through the streets to jeering and derision. Perhaps on a rail. Tarred and feathered (or with feathers replaced by hypodermic needles stuck in them).