So if we remove ONLY those with at least FOUR (!!) comorbidities, the US death toll FROM the Chinese virus drops from 836,000 to 209,000.
Take another 10% off for those with THREE comorbidities and the death toll is roughly double the death toll from the 2018/19 seasonal influenza season, or 125,000.
We've given the keys to the kingdom to the most evil, corrupt, incompetent among us over AT MOST 125,000 deaths.
(And if you keep removing those with comorbidities, the 2 and the 1, and look at ONLY those who died with zero comorbidities...you'll get down to around 50,000 which, Voila!, is 6% of the 836,000 total. And that 6% is what the CDC floated roughly a year or more ago. So they've known this ALL ALONG, and yet they continued to destroy America by hiding this information.
When we burn down the alphabet legacy media and salt the earth where they stood, we should do the same to the CDC. And hey, are both the CDC and CNN in Atlanta? General Sherman, where art thou?)
I wonder whether that has been part of any tests of the deceased. IOW, whether that comorbidity is unknowable. Because yeah, if that is part of blood work or whatever that is typically done on the dead, it could be a hugely important piece of info.
Yes I think I have research here on testing postmortem. In the cohorts I have seen, there were no deaths in patients with a level above 35ng/ml. And I have seen calculations indicating that the USRDA for D is off by an order of magnitude.
In my case, I take 6000iu/day, plus zinc and quercetin. I have had 3 extended exposures to cv19 cases and no symptoms. Unknown if it's the D/etc or preexisting cross-reactivity from something else.
It is D. I've been on 10,000 iu/day for three years+. Husband had covid in 2020 (November) and neither myself nor our kids (one an infant at the time) ever got covid - older kid was always on vit D and baby got it through breastmilk.
I was always stunned that the death of a apparently healthy 29 year old never got any investigation or follow-up. Maybe it was done, maybe not. But the lack of curiosity amazed me. Just like 'science' isn't interested in why some people despite considerable exposure, like sleeping with your mate, never get ill. Nope, vaccines will fix it according to 'science'. Many deluding politicos later we arrive at failure. Mass hysteria indeed, affecting our learned experts.
Excellent revision. And once all comorbidities and VitD deficients and other ailments and the PCR cycle rate set to Ct24, we'll probably be down to, say, less than 1%? Maybe 0%?
"And that 6% is what the CDC floated roughly a year or more ago."
Yes, this has been out there already, quite some time ago. I was kind of amazed that they let that slip at the time. But of course it got no traction and so it went down the memory hole.
Now take the 21,000 reported vaccine deaths from VAERS and multiply by the typical underreporting factor of ten, and we can see that vaccine deaths exceed virus deaths.
Why do we continue to play "German Roulette" by spinning the cylinder and taking another shot? By three spins, you are already on borrowed time - by 6, you'd better feel REAL lucky, punk!
Funny how you count a single influenza season but the covid deaths never reset - they only accumulate. So on a per season basis the 209k total covid deaths for almost 2 years become less than the influenza 2018/19 season.
Another fun fact: Cigarettes kill more than 8Mil per year (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tobacco) and covid has made it with all the with-vs-from-covid shenanigans to 5.5Mil in almost 2 years. Why don't we just stop smoking and get infected. it will be net positive. I mean stop smoking tobacco, we don't want to overreact here.
I would imagine that a significant portion of those killed by influenza also have comorbidities so its not a perfect comparison. But yeah, I would be somewhat surprised if it was over 50K that died mostly due to COVID.
Yeah, excellent point. It's not a great comparison. Good thing today was the first day I took it out for a spin! I shan't make that mistake again.
Perhaps the most reliable outcome from all this is the realization that none of the numbers coming from CDC are reliable. That they have been so perverted and distorted by so many influences (hey, let's pay hospitals for each covid death!) that they are largely meaningless.
Whaaaatttt? Unbelievable to think our saintly hospitals might take liberties with COVID being a cause of death just to make more money. They would never do such a thing. [wink]
When we consider that covid coincided perfectly with the roll out of 5g, and that the virus has never been isolated (computer generated models don't count), then we have to consider that covid is not caused by a virus. Which indicates that what few illnesses we are seeing are reactions to 5g and more recently, the toxic jabs.
Not only has the virus been isolated, your can purchase "live" specimens that will grow (replicate) for $2k if you have a bsl3 lab. And if you don't have a lab, for $10M or so you can pay a bsl3 lab to do grow it & experiment on it for you.
Some guy saying it has been isolated and not offering any proof doesn't count. Just because he says some influential people also claim it exists, is not showing me any virus. Show me the isolated virus. And then prove its causative.
Add in the FDA for sure, and FDA officials have to be led through the streets to jeering and derision. Perhaps on a rail. Tarred and feathered (or with feathers replaced by hypodermic needles stuck in them).
Took some time to ponder why family and friends seem oblivious to the things I know. They seem happy and content living in the world as they find it. Me, neither happy nor content, I have stayed immersed in the news, and mainly the alt news where I found truth based on my knowledge through education. It is apparent they scoot along daily, doing whatever they are told from the sources they trust, like the Today Show, Good morning America, Fauci, Biden, NBC Evening News, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO, HuffPost, etc. They read nothing, they know nothing about the deaths and disabilities from the injections. In fact, they know nothing about the medical product being injected into their bodies. They live life in a fog of ignorance and are happy to be followers. Or lemmings. And I am old enough to remember being instructed to think twice before following the crowd - Me, "But everyone else is doing it!" Mom says, "IF everyone jumped off a cliff, would you too?" So, all I can think is that those going along with 'CDC Says' were never told to think twice and were encouraged to keep their head down and move along. Wear that mask, take a test, get that shot, get another shot, keep that mask on, take a test, get another shot, get a microchip.....and hate and revile anyone who doesn't.
Exactly what I thought. How can people just let themselves be injected with that stuff? How can they go along with a narrative that is been repeated over and over again until you doze off. And you know when all say the same thing, word for word, that it is a lie ! Otherwise they would formulate it different every time ! But no they let themselves be soothed. As to sorry, I wonder, I don't expect it, and I don't expect to take any former friends back.
I can identify with the puzzlement of how people can blindly go along. I keep reminding myself of something a friend said who is as informed as we are: they have access to the same information we do.
It is their choice to remain ignorant or in many cases in a delusional psychosis.
I'm not sure they hear or see anything outside of the steady drumbeat of The Narrative. Probably on the same level I cannot stomach Fauci's voice, Biden's face, anyone on CNN. We live on different planes of reality and the two never intersect.
I doubt they will ever say I've been blind but now I see. They simple end the conversation in a blunt & angry manner, maybe they scream in some of their parrot preaching by MSM
Well you see, you found S-Stack and became more informed. And only because the propaganda machine drove you here to receive some substantiated, credible misinformation. Please inform your leaders https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-governing-body so they too might become enlightned. Our infomat needs others to discover some alternate info. I don't think those stuck on the MSM will be told but they will discover.
Truth! the most shocking thing about all of this is to witness the masses just blithely going along. I see the masked at the store and they're so confident, so content, they are protected and doing the right thing (in their minds) where I'm just vibrating with the need to scream TAKE OFF THE DAMNED MASK!
I am very confused... and suspicious. This Rochelle Walensky is making some statements in the last few days that I cannot "fit" with her. First her criticism of Sotomayor and now this. What is she up to?
my best guess is that she realized she's being set up as the fall gal for failed policy.
collins is retiring, and teflon tony is untouchable.
so she's the sacrificial lamb.
and perhaps she's going off script because there is no longer any reason to play "good solider" and she'd at least like to speak some truth before they take her out back...
She'll get taken out through a cushy job with a nice salary & lifelong benefits. It'll hurt (a little bit) cause she loses the power but > Not a bad gig if you can get it!
gato is right, Tony has proven to be untouchable. Perhaps that will change this week if Project Veritas releases a real bombshell, but somebody who has survived torturing orphans and puppies can survive anything.
Fauci is an eager and willing puppet of the Deep State but he serves his masters well which is why he's never been held accountable. Even if they get rid of him, the replacement will be equally evil and corrupt.
He's not an eager and willing puppet. Hillary's speech on charting a new path in global health really did bring him to tears. He wouldn't just make that up.
It's interesting, nary a peep from the Faucian corner regarding Kennedy's prosecutorial takedown. Part of me wonders if it was "allowed" to feed the dissenters. Certainly those who bought the book became a database for one of the alphabet agencies. Big Pharma money still supporting some of those "on our side."
Finding it hard to take anything at face value these days. Once seen, cannot be unseen.
Agree with Bad Cat and others on Shaman Fauci. There is no way, NONE, that he will get any negative feedback for anything he has done. (One could argue if he deserves his own custom orange jumpsuit, but...) As to how he obtained or developed this "deflector shield" I am at a loss. But, he has one and it is completely impenetrable.
If she is making statements that seem sensible and true to us, Ivan, you can bet your last money that there is a reason for it. And that reason is unrelated to her desire to provide truthful science to the masses!
There are folks who think Biden and co. are about to claim victory over Covid. The jabs and boosters got the job done, dontcha know. I kept my promise. They and their media pals will gaslight all about the disgraceful and destructive aspects of his policies. We never did that, etc. Then again, the beat could go on as is and the delayed State of the Union may be about Build Back Better passing.
I'm inclined to buy JuQu's speculation. "They" don't need to throw anyone under the bus. They just need to free themselves of the COVID albatross. There's an election to be won in November, and if there's no progress on returning to normal, the "wrong party" will win.
Remember that Walensky started by making sensible statement for about a week (after replacing the previous CDC head that said something sensible, IIRC), then she must have had "the talk" and she started parrotting the zombie lines. Maybe there's a little bit of human left in her (like in Annikin Skywalker and the Emperor's grip is fading)?
I think she is being used to blaze the u-turn that the administration is about to make in covid policy. If they tell her to say it first, they can be seen to be "following the science."
Revising my original comment, apparently she was talking about those who died vaccinated. That sounds more like Rochelle. She makes a big deal about the comorbidities of those who are dying after vaccination. She does not care that it was also the case before "vaccines" were used.
Nothing can be ruled out. Could be anything from New Year's resolutions to diversity of substack subscriptions (might she be one of the 20k subscribers here?)
Geez! So Wallensky can say something many of us were saying TWO DAMNED YEARS AGO, and seem to be stating a "new" fact? And on top of that, the number is actually closer to 90%, but it might have been lowered due to the negative effects of mass vaccination, actually. Today's Conspiracy Theory == Tomorrow's Announcement from the Orthodoxy.
I seem to remember that Deborah Birx (aka the Scarf Lady) also began to distinguish between "with" and "from" for a brief time, and then she too pivoted to the Party Line.
I think the DNC hasn't yet decided whether to ride the "mission accomplished" horse or the "DEFCON 1" horse in the 2022 elections. They seem to be trying out both options.
The polling on Covid response is miserable. The Dems awaking from their mass formation know they need to find a way out of this to minimize the red wave in November.
Well me too for right now. We must keep in mind that the Rs can do this too. We need to become independent voters who vote issues, not team jersey wearers.
States' rights need to be strengthened. Federal responsibilities need to be reduced to Constitutional levels. The Federal gov needs to be removed from state, county, city activities. Once they give the states some of their own money back the Feds think they own you.
Totally agree. I think it should also be possible to vote for people in other states. Right now, only a handful of people stood up for the people. Most of all senator Johnson, I am glad he is running again and wish I could vote for him. Paul. DeSantis. They still promote the jabs, but let people free (which I think is the right thing to do, but people should be better informed about ALL jabs)
My guess is that things are really about to go so bad there will be no hiding it.
I just received a letter from my health insurance company, who is one of the big ones in NY and CT.
It contained this passage:
Telehealth Visit
If you are experiencing symptoms of COVID-19, such as fever or shortness of breath, book a Telehealth Visit online with a doctor.
Book Online
Get Vaccinated
Right now, getting your COVID-19 vaccine and booster is the single best thing you and your family can do to stay protected.
Learn More About Vaccination
Do not delay emergency care if you are experiencing signs of heart attack, stroke or another health concern that may require immediate attention. Dial 9-1-1 or visit your local emergency department if you are experiencing signs of an emergency, including trouble breathing, persistent pain or pressure in the chest, new confusion or inability to wake up, or bluish lips or face."
Nothing above or below in the complete letter changes any of this.
This is literal insanity, clear definition of Covid symptoms, clear instructions that the vaccine is Safe and Effective™ and then, oh, by the way, it's going to cause heart attacks and strokes at such high numbers even we can't pretend otherwise anymore.
To urge you to take a drug that makes your body produce spike proteins when you already have the symptoms of your body being under attack from spike proteins ... this is either madness or malpractice or both.
Tony admitted this early on, before he decided it was advantageous to pretend otherwise:
"It’s so clear that the overwhelming weight of serious disease and mortality is on those who are elderly and those with a serious comorbidity: heart disease, chronic lung disease, diabetes, obesity, respiratory difficulties," said Anthony Fauci, M.D., director of the National Institutes of Health's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
"There will be outliers, as we’ve seen with influenza, [a person] who is young and healthy who winds up getting COVID-19, [gets] seriously ill and dies," Fauci said in a taped interview with Howard Bauchner, M.D., editor of the Journal of the American Medical Association. "But if you look at the weight of the data the risk group is very, very clear." (March, 2020)
It only takes a few months for a conspiracy theory to turn into the official narrative, comrade. My recent post details how you should follow the science aka oligarch sponsored secular religion.
I listened to the entire Walinski interview. The interviewer seemed more upset by the loosening of the quarantine time than the fact that the healthy have been locked in for two years for something the mostly effects the very sick. So her young and healthy children have been in prison and had their IQ and immune system racked and she is not worried about that, but is PO'ed that the quarantine isn't longer. Cooockooo.
In the region I live (4.4million pop), only 150 souls have died allegedly of covid in the past 2yrs+ without at least one comorbidity. Most have 4 or 5. 3000+ have died overall and avg age is 78. We are fortunate our area tracks these stats. Despite these 150 probably all being past the avg due date of 74yrs, I wonder how many could have been saved with early therapeutics and avoidance of the hospital(remdesivir/intubation) thinning the number closer to 0. What a farce.
I worry that our countries "leaders" are trying to reduce the number of persons that died from covid so that they can claim all of the mitigation measures were successful. Originally models (don't laugh) stated 1.4M would die of COVID if preventative measures did not occur, which was the rationale for the lockdowns. If we get to 1M dead plus all the other easily calculated costs of lockdowns (overdoses and suicide increases) bring it close to 1.4M then all of the lockdowns and destruction of our societal norms and restriction on government will have been for nothing.
If instead they can claim, really only 300K died and most were going to die anyways they will start to claim that the lockdowns and freedom killing were worth it and should be done again for the next virus de jour.
UNVACCINATED (PureBloods) people can contract and transmit the Cough IT 1984 Wuhan Bio Weapon Virus
PureBlood Response....Wuhan Tony, Willie the Vaccinator, et al insist that I get a safe and effective LabRatInjection for the virus with over a 99% survival rate. I choose my immune system thanks. Now, if it was the...........Ebola,Virus?
Vaccinated Response..I'll take the LRI thanks, you do you, I'll do me, Respect!
Vaccinated Puritan Response..Go get vaccinated you effin awhole, how many effin people have to die because of your selfishness, you stupid, effin awhole, I hope you all effin die!
###ALL POINTS BULLETIN### ALL POINTS BULLETIN###ALL POINTS BULLETIN###
VACCINATED people can contract and transmit the Cough IT 1984 Wuhan Bio Weapon Virus
Puritan Correct Response..Oh man(head bowed in shame), I've got Cough IT 1984 egg all over my face! And to think I was the one saying ' follow the science' all this time, I feel terrible! I offer my most heartfelt and sincerest apologies to all the people that I have directed my profound and ignorant hate at/to! Let's work together and leave this Plandemic behind once and for all. I am truly sorry!!
PURITAN ACTUAL RESPONSE..Go get vaccinated you effin awhole, how many effin people have to die because of your selfishness, you stupid, effin awhole, I hope you all effin die!
So, now that they are scrambling for more positive messaging surrounding the vaccines they are going to try to use what we have been saying all along regarding the realities of this virus.
I can’t wait until the CDC endorses the Great Barrington Declaration as the best way to balance societal needs and Omicron spread :)
Funny (well no, but...) thing: Bob Saget died in his sleep a month after his booster shot (per Daily Mail). Now, his two sisters died in young mid-adulthood: one from a brain aneurism and the other from scleroderma, an auto-immune disease. So, non-healthcare professional though I may be, I'd say there's a strong family history of genetic issues that our Wonder Shot might perhaps not be entirely safe to administer in the presence of. And I'll bet no physician advising regarding or administering the vax to Saget ever asked about family history, or anything, really...
Your Personal Panic Merchants of Perpetual Misery (we all know them) have adopted the old, "In for a penny, in for a pound" concept and merged it with "Sunk cost fallacy" to create a Forever Covid Reality. Masking toddlers, discussions of a second round of boosters (maybe more, please!!), advocating banning the unvaxxed from society, those jackals won't stop, they've finally found their purpose.
I've cut them all out of my life, I suggest you do the same. Move on without them, their lives stopped in April 2020 and they are trying to hold you back from living yours.
Coulld it be that (1) Ms Walensky is being set up as the fall-lady and will shortly be replaced, with someone with better spin talent (a better liar!), and (2) She is queueing up the MSM (Gutter Press) to start introducing the magical reducion in the number of 'actual' covid deaths, and the abject scam that was the PCR test. Not necessarily in that order BTW!!!
Just an FYI. 12 studies below keep us contemporary with the science, show us that the pandemic is over, OMICRON is a mild cold, and the vaccines continue to fail disastrously; we are creating super shedders! https://palexander.substack.com/p/breaking-news-while-vaccines-fail?
Wasn't there some noise a couple weeks ago about Menge...er, Fauxi retiring? Maybe part of a pivot via replacement, have her appear "reasonable" & "honest."
Well said gatito. I've been saying this for nearly 2 years now and am glad the CDC is finally listening to me.
We had a similar problem in the 80s & 90s with AIDS. Another Fauci fiasco. Regardless of actual cause of death, anyone with a positive hiv test was counted as an "aids death" this was especially bad in Africa where they didn't even test for HIV but used WHOs Bangui definition.
"For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death."
I think Kermit has it wrong. If your friend made an honest speculation about a possible outcome and you rejected it out of hand, yes an apology or at least acknowledgement that their guess was right is in order.
But I can make guesses until the cows come home, and crow about that one guess I got right: doesn't mean I know Jack about sh*t. Only that I finally through sheer quantity lucked out.
Like playing all the numbers on the roulette at the same time and claiming to "have figured out the system" because one of them came up.
Let me make a predicition: there'll be an earthquake in Japan before year's end. There'll be a tornado in the US blamed on climate change. Electricity crisis in Europe will continue to escalate and blame be more and more focused on Putin as a pretext for an armed response to russian interventionism in it's bordering nations.
All of these /will/ happen, beciause they are vague enough about specific details that they can, semantically, be adapted to fit what actually happens.
Of curse, none of the above is a problem. I'm not a CEO of a harm-aceutical company, nor a politician or bureaucrat. I can predict whatever and it only affects me.
Problem is when it's people like US president Harris and her owners and cronies getting it tits up.
It's amazing... I seem to remember hearing this from "conspiracy theorists" in 2020. I can almost feel these people in my lap from 2000 miles away there's so much back peddling going on.
gato malo has good taste in music, gatito. i think we need to share this song with ALL of the people in charge of this mess... before we take them to court that is.
So if we remove ONLY those with at least FOUR (!!) comorbidities, the US death toll FROM the Chinese virus drops from 836,000 to 209,000.
Take another 10% off for those with THREE comorbidities and the death toll is roughly double the death toll from the 2018/19 seasonal influenza season, or 125,000.
We've given the keys to the kingdom to the most evil, corrupt, incompetent among us over AT MOST 125,000 deaths.
(And if you keep removing those with comorbidities, the 2 and the 1, and look at ONLY those who died with zero comorbidities...you'll get down to around 50,000 which, Voila!, is 6% of the 836,000 total. And that 6% is what the CDC floated roughly a year or more ago. So they've known this ALL ALONG, and yet they continued to destroy America by hiding this information.
When we burn down the alphabet legacy media and salt the earth where they stood, we should do the same to the CDC. And hey, are both the CDC and CNN in Atlanta? General Sherman, where art thou?)
If you include people with vitamin D deficiency as comorbid, I would argue that the death toll drops to under 1000.
I wonder whether that has been part of any tests of the deceased. IOW, whether that comorbidity is unknowable. Because yeah, if that is part of blood work or whatever that is typically done on the dead, it could be a hugely important piece of info.
Yes I think I have research here on testing postmortem. In the cohorts I have seen, there were no deaths in patients with a level above 35ng/ml. And I have seen calculations indicating that the USRDA for D is off by an order of magnitude.
In my case, I take 6000iu/day, plus zinc and quercetin. I have had 3 extended exposures to cv19 cases and no symptoms. Unknown if it's the D/etc or preexisting cross-reactivity from something else.
It is D. I've been on 10,000 iu/day for three years+. Husband had covid in 2020 (November) and neither myself nor our kids (one an infant at the time) ever got covid - older kid was always on vit D and baby got it through breastmilk.
Good for you for being wise!
Found one:
https://e-nrp.org/DOIx.php?id=10.4162/nrp.2021.15.S1.S32
I was always stunned that the death of a apparently healthy 29 year old never got any investigation or follow-up. Maybe it was done, maybe not. But the lack of curiosity amazed me. Just like 'science' isn't interested in why some people despite considerable exposure, like sleeping with your mate, never get ill. Nope, vaccines will fix it according to 'science'. Many deluding politicos later we arrive at failure. Mass hysteria indeed, affecting our learned experts.
Good point!
Excellent revision. And once all comorbidities and VitD deficients and other ailments and the PCR cycle rate set to Ct24, we'll probably be down to, say, less than 1%? Maybe 0%?
"And that 6% is what the CDC floated roughly a year or more ago."
Yes, this has been out there already, quite some time ago. I was kind of amazed that they let that slip at the time. But of course it got no traction and so it went down the memory hole.
Now take the 21,000 reported vaccine deaths from VAERS and multiply by the typical underreporting factor of ten, and we can see that vaccine deaths exceed virus deaths.
Why do we continue to play "German Roulette" by spinning the cylinder and taking another shot? By three spins, you are already on borrowed time - by 6, you'd better feel REAL lucky, punk!
Kirsh says undercount is more like 41. But 10 is enough to speak worry for those not on the drug of politics.
Funny how you count a single influenza season but the covid deaths never reset - they only accumulate. So on a per season basis the 209k total covid deaths for almost 2 years become less than the influenza 2018/19 season.
Another fun fact: Cigarettes kill more than 8Mil per year (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tobacco) and covid has made it with all the with-vs-from-covid shenanigans to 5.5Mil in almost 2 years. Why don't we just stop smoking and get infected. it will be net positive. I mean stop smoking tobacco, we don't want to overreact here.
Year 2098 Headline: COVID has killed 98% of the population from 2019.
elGato's comment to the headline in 2098: oddly enough, the remaining 2% are all unvaxxed
Right!
Yes. And, not to mention those harmed by the jabs.
And if you don't count pneumonia with the flu, flu deaths are like in the hundreds.
When they combined them, it was done to build fear to get flu shots
Such an obvious overstatement of deaths from Day 1.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/the-covid-death-toll-is-phony
I have lots of matches. We ride at dawn!
I would imagine that a significant portion of those killed by influenza also have comorbidities so its not a perfect comparison. But yeah, I would be somewhat surprised if it was over 50K that died mostly due to COVID.
Yeah, excellent point. It's not a great comparison. Good thing today was the first day I took it out for a spin! I shan't make that mistake again.
Perhaps the most reliable outcome from all this is the realization that none of the numbers coming from CDC are reliable. That they have been so perverted and distorted by so many influences (hey, let's pay hospitals for each covid death!) that they are largely meaningless.
Whaaaatttt? Unbelievable to think our saintly hospitals might take liberties with COVID being a cause of death just to make more money. They would never do such a thing. [wink]
When we consider that covid coincided perfectly with the roll out of 5g, and that the virus has never been isolated (computer generated models don't count), then we have to consider that covid is not caused by a virus. Which indicates that what few illnesses we are seeing are reactions to 5g and more recently, the toxic jabs.
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/emfs-5g-vaccines-the-real-causes
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/solutions-on-freedom
Not only has the virus been isolated, your can purchase "live" specimens that will grow (replicate) for $2k if you have a bsl3 lab. And if you don't have a lab, for $10M or so you can pay a bsl3 lab to do grow it & experiment on it for you.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/has-the-virus-been-isolated-yes
Oh sh!t another hijacked thread.
Both of these claims are in error
Show me the virus.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/has-the-virus-been-isolated-yes
Also several million genome sequences have been mapped
Some guy saying it has been isolated and not offering any proof doesn't count. Just because he says some influential people also claim it exists, is not showing me any virus. Show me the isolated virus. And then prove its causative.
You apparently didn't follow the link. "Some guy" has been assured by leading researchers (eg vanden Bossche) that ot exists
Oh, & his article includes links to 2 labs where you can buy live specimens.
Don't forget the NIH....
think it’s gonna take something stronger than salt to purify that kinda evil... just saying.
The cdc director is referring to omicron only though.
She's saying that the Omicron deaths were 75% among those with 4 or more comorbidities?
Was she not asked for the numbers for the other variants?
She skipped the question. She was asked of the 836,000 deaths how many were WITH Covid and how many were from. No answer.
Add in the FDA for sure, and FDA officials have to be led through the streets to jeering and derision. Perhaps on a rail. Tarred and feathered (or with feathers replaced by hypodermic needles stuck in them).
Took some time to ponder why family and friends seem oblivious to the things I know. They seem happy and content living in the world as they find it. Me, neither happy nor content, I have stayed immersed in the news, and mainly the alt news where I found truth based on my knowledge through education. It is apparent they scoot along daily, doing whatever they are told from the sources they trust, like the Today Show, Good morning America, Fauci, Biden, NBC Evening News, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO, HuffPost, etc. They read nothing, they know nothing about the deaths and disabilities from the injections. In fact, they know nothing about the medical product being injected into their bodies. They live life in a fog of ignorance and are happy to be followers. Or lemmings. And I am old enough to remember being instructed to think twice before following the crowd - Me, "But everyone else is doing it!" Mom says, "IF everyone jumped off a cliff, would you too?" So, all I can think is that those going along with 'CDC Says' were never told to think twice and were encouraged to keep their head down and move along. Wear that mask, take a test, get that shot, get another shot, keep that mask on, take a test, get another shot, get a microchip.....and hate and revile anyone who doesn't.
If I had a nickel or even a penny for every time I said to myself or someone else, "F! People are stupid!" this last year, I'd own a Lambo.
Exactly what I thought. How can people just let themselves be injected with that stuff? How can they go along with a narrative that is been repeated over and over again until you doze off. And you know when all say the same thing, word for word, that it is a lie ! Otherwise they would formulate it different every time ! But no they let themselves be soothed. As to sorry, I wonder, I don't expect it, and I don't expect to take any former friends back.
Ah, yes. The old days, when our parents taught us to think for ourselves. Because they knew that was an important aspect of parenting.
Ignorance is bliss
When I was young I was told "Don't ever lose your ignorance because you'll never get it back." I regret not fully understanding that until recently.
Along that line, King Solomon noted "With much knowledge comes much grief."
Ignorance is bliss…it’s also deadly
I can identify with the puzzlement of how people can blindly go along. I keep reminding myself of something a friend said who is as informed as we are: they have access to the same information we do.
It is their choice to remain ignorant or in many cases in a delusional psychosis.
I'm not sure they hear or see anything outside of the steady drumbeat of The Narrative. Probably on the same level I cannot stomach Fauci's voice, Biden's face, anyone on CNN. We live on different planes of reality and the two never intersect.
Malone's mass hysteria at work.
I doubt they will ever say I've been blind but now I see. They simple end the conversation in a blunt & angry manner, maybe they scream in some of their parrot preaching by MSM
They only will see if you ask questions. They then learn to examine their beliefs.
Sadly, I have tried that numerous times & it doesn't work but thanks for the advice.
Well you see, you found S-Stack and became more informed. And only because the propaganda machine drove you here to receive some substantiated, credible misinformation. Please inform your leaders https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-governing-body so they too might become enlightned. Our infomat needs others to discover some alternate info. I don't think those stuck on the MSM will be told but they will discover.
Truth! the most shocking thing about all of this is to witness the masses just blithely going along. I see the masked at the store and they're so confident, so content, they are protected and doing the right thing (in their minds) where I'm just vibrating with the need to scream TAKE OFF THE DAMNED MASK!
Amen! Glad there is someone else holding themselves back from screaming this at people.
Good ol’ Mom !
I am very confused... and suspicious. This Rochelle Walensky is making some statements in the last few days that I cannot "fit" with her. First her criticism of Sotomayor and now this. What is she up to?
my best guess is that she realized she's being set up as the fall gal for failed policy.
collins is retiring, and teflon tony is untouchable.
so she's the sacrificial lamb.
and perhaps she's going off script because there is no longer any reason to play "good solider" and she'd at least like to speak some truth before they take her out back...
pure speculation on my part though...
She'll get taken out through a cushy job with a nice salary & lifelong benefits. It'll hurt (a little bit) cause she loses the power but > Not a bad gig if you can get it!
All you gotta do is sell your soul.
Just your soul…huh
One of the big Pharma companies will give her a 7 figure consulting job.
"Before they take her out back." Too funny. Tony Soprano just called, and said, "Somebody call Silvio."
Oh cat poop! I was so hoping it would be Tony.
gato is right, Tony has proven to be untouchable. Perhaps that will change this week if Project Veritas releases a real bombshell, but somebody who has survived torturing orphans and puppies can survive anything.
Fauci is an eager and willing puppet of the Deep State but he serves his masters well which is why he's never been held accountable. Even if they get rid of him, the replacement will be equally evil and corrupt.
He's not an eager and willing puppet. Hillary's speech on charting a new path in global health really did bring him to tears. He wouldn't just make that up.
It's interesting, nary a peep from the Faucian corner regarding Kennedy's prosecutorial takedown. Part of me wonders if it was "allowed" to feed the dissenters. Certainly those who bought the book became a database for one of the alphabet agencies. Big Pharma money still supporting some of those "on our side."
Finding it hard to take anything at face value these days. Once seen, cannot be unseen.
Agree with Bad Cat and others on Shaman Fauci. There is no way, NONE, that he will get any negative feedback for anything he has done. (One could argue if he deserves his own custom orange jumpsuit, but...) As to how he obtained or developed this "deflector shield" I am at a loss. But, he has one and it is completely impenetrable.
Double cat poop !!
gato, do you think that her statements have anything to do with Aaron Siri's recent victory over the FDA?
Jeff Childers thinks so! https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-monday-january-caf
Great point!
No honor among criminals.
Yes, speculation, but certainly plausible.
Imagine feeling THAT realization…😳
If she is making statements that seem sensible and true to us, Ivan, you can bet your last money that there is a reason for it. And that reason is unrelated to her desire to provide truthful science to the masses!
Yes... that is why I am suspicious. What is she up to? Although the Cat's hypothesis above is plausible.
There are folks who think Biden and co. are about to claim victory over Covid. The jabs and boosters got the job done, dontcha know. I kept my promise. They and their media pals will gaslight all about the disgraceful and destructive aspects of his policies. We never did that, etc. Then again, the beat could go on as is and the delayed State of the Union may be about Build Back Better passing.
I'm inclined to buy JuQu's speculation. "They" don't need to throw anyone under the bus. They just need to free themselves of the COVID albatross. There's an election to be won in November, and if there's no progress on returning to normal, the "wrong party" will win.
Leaders are trying to gently change the tune, turn the elephant without ever admitting error. Lower levels are still marching ahead because the new dogma (now in progress) seeps down slowly. This https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/spontaneous-order-in-complex-systems/ is an early take. The messaging change telegraphed by JAMA https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2787944 where humility is mentioned.
Remember that Walensky started by making sensible statement for about a week (after replacing the previous CDC head that said something sensible, IIRC), then she must have had "the talk" and she started parrotting the zombie lines. Maybe there's a little bit of human left in her (like in Annikin Skywalker and the Emperor's grip is fading)?
She’s a white supremacist now. Obviously they got to her too.
I think she is being used to blaze the u-turn that the administration is about to make in covid policy. If they tell her to say it first, they can be seen to be "following the science."
It may be broader than just Walensky. Jeff Childers talked about this in general in his Coffee & Covid substack today: https://bit.ly/3Gf488k
A lot of signs point to Dem pivoting to claim victory -- and, laughably, credit -- over Omie, ending the Pandemic© jit for Brandon's March SOTU.
Revising my original comment, apparently she was talking about those who died vaccinated. That sounds more like Rochelle. She makes a big deal about the comorbidities of those who are dying after vaccination. She does not care that it was also the case before "vaccines" were used.
the fda just realized that the cdc are genocidal maniacs
Funniest statement of the day!!
Nothing can be ruled out. Could be anything from New Year's resolutions to diversity of substack subscriptions (might she be one of the 20k subscribers here?)
Been feeling suspicious too !
Yep. That's what I'm wondering.
Geez! So Wallensky can say something many of us were saying TWO DAMNED YEARS AGO, and seem to be stating a "new" fact? And on top of that, the number is actually closer to 90%, but it might have been lowered due to the negative effects of mass vaccination, actually. Today's Conspiracy Theory == Tomorrow's Announcement from the Orthodoxy.
Didn't she also say something about the difference between being hospitalized 'with covid' or 'because of covid'.
I seem to remember that Deborah Birx (aka the Scarf Lady) also began to distinguish between "with" and "from" for a brief time, and then she too pivoted to the Party Line.
I think the DNC hasn't yet decided whether to ride the "mission accomplished" horse or the "DEFCON 1" horse in the 2022 elections. They seem to be trying out both options.
The bad news. Psychopaths do not apologize. They tell you that you didn't phrase the question correctly.
The polling on Covid response is miserable. The Dems awaking from their mass formation know they need to find a way out of this to minimize the red wave in November.
They can be sure they lost me. I am voting Republican now
Well me too for right now. We must keep in mind that the Rs can do this too. We need to become independent voters who vote issues, not team jersey wearers.
States' rights need to be strengthened. Federal responsibilities need to be reduced to Constitutional levels. The Federal gov needs to be removed from state, county, city activities. Once they give the states some of their own money back the Feds think they own you.
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Totally agree. I think it should also be possible to vote for people in other states. Right now, only a handful of people stood up for the people. Most of all senator Johnson, I am glad he is running again and wish I could vote for him. Paul. DeSantis. They still promote the jabs, but let people free (which I think is the right thing to do, but people should be better informed about ALL jabs)
Remember the 10th Amendment. Interstate voting just plays into the Dems' so-called Voters Rights Bill, which federalizes the election process.
ah i had not thought of that. And of course it is illegal. Luckily we have a decent governor too. And if really needed we can always go to Florida!
It could also backfire, with all the big blue cities in the big blue states voting in red state elections.
‘I am completely opposed to any kind of mandates.’
I’ll need to see that too
That is the only reason we are seeing a sudden turn about!
Well pobre gatito, I fact checked your little pictures, and it appears that frogs cannot play the banjo. Therefore, all your content is suspect!
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"Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia."
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Bingo.
Walensky v. Sotomayor: Dawn of Justice?
My guess is that things are really about to go so bad there will be no hiding it.
I just received a letter from my health insurance company, who is one of the big ones in NY and CT.
It contained this passage:
Telehealth Visit
If you are experiencing symptoms of COVID-19, such as fever or shortness of breath, book a Telehealth Visit online with a doctor.
Book Online
Get Vaccinated
Right now, getting your COVID-19 vaccine and booster is the single best thing you and your family can do to stay protected.
Learn More About Vaccination
Do not delay emergency care if you are experiencing signs of heart attack, stroke or another health concern that may require immediate attention. Dial 9-1-1 or visit your local emergency department if you are experiencing signs of an emergency, including trouble breathing, persistent pain or pressure in the chest, new confusion or inability to wake up, or bluish lips or face."
Nothing above or below in the complete letter changes any of this.
This is literal insanity, clear definition of Covid symptoms, clear instructions that the vaccine is Safe and Effective™ and then, oh, by the way, it's going to cause heart attacks and strokes at such high numbers even we can't pretend otherwise anymore.
This is Nuremberg Trials level of butchery.
To urge you to take a drug that makes your body produce spike proteins when you already have the symptoms of your body being under attack from spike proteins ... this is either madness or malpractice or both.
Tony admitted this early on, before he decided it was advantageous to pretend otherwise:
"It’s so clear that the overwhelming weight of serious disease and mortality is on those who are elderly and those with a serious comorbidity: heart disease, chronic lung disease, diabetes, obesity, respiratory difficulties," said Anthony Fauci, M.D., director of the National Institutes of Health's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
"There will be outliers, as we’ve seen with influenza, [a person] who is young and healthy who winds up getting COVID-19, [gets] seriously ill and dies," Fauci said in a taped interview with Howard Bauchner, M.D., editor of the Journal of the American Medical Association. "But if you look at the weight of the data the risk group is very, very clear." (March, 2020)
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/practices/fauci-offers-update-coronavirus-to-jama-for-clinicans
This thing is unravelling at record pace ..
It only takes a few months for a conspiracy theory to turn into the official narrative, comrade. My recent post details how you should follow the science aka oligarch sponsored secular religion.
Yes. Covid is now an unmanageable natural event. Let’s start forgetting about it and focus on the 1/6 “insurrection.”
Walensky is a Covid denier?
There’s definitely no question now that the narrative is changing. Wow. I still had some doubt until this video.
I hope this implies a silent admission by the regime that they took things too far, as opposed to Walensky going rogue.
Q: What is the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth?
A: About 6 months.
I listened to the entire Walinski interview. The interviewer seemed more upset by the loosening of the quarantine time than the fact that the healthy have been locked in for two years for something the mostly effects the very sick. So her young and healthy children have been in prison and had their IQ and immune system racked and she is not worried about that, but is PO'ed that the quarantine isn't longer. Cooockooo.
In the region I live (4.4million pop), only 150 souls have died allegedly of covid in the past 2yrs+ without at least one comorbidity. Most have 4 or 5. 3000+ have died overall and avg age is 78. We are fortunate our area tracks these stats. Despite these 150 probably all being past the avg due date of 74yrs, I wonder how many could have been saved with early therapeutics and avoidance of the hospital(remdesivir/intubation) thinning the number closer to 0. What a farce.
conspiracy theory = spoiler alert
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How soon until the CDC then revises the Covid Death Count from 859,000 to 214,750? First, she's still lying because IN ONLY 6% OF DEATHS COVID IS THE ONLY CAUSE MENTIONED (citation here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf).
But let's just go with 75% of people had eight toes already in the grave. Will they revise the number?
Bueller...
Bueller...
Bueller...
Good link, thanks.
Interesting to note the number of rows taken up by the condition they call
"Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning, and other adverse events".
All Cause Mortality is the only really interesting number in all of this.
Yes, and Ben Marten's US Mortality Monitoring provides some good visualizations and context:
https://www.usmortality.com/historical
Note that US age-adjusted all-cause mortality for 2020 was lower than all five years 1999–2003.
I worry that our countries "leaders" are trying to reduce the number of persons that died from covid so that they can claim all of the mitigation measures were successful. Originally models (don't laugh) stated 1.4M would die of COVID if preventative measures did not occur, which was the rationale for the lockdowns. If we get to 1M dead plus all the other easily calculated costs of lockdowns (overdoses and suicide increases) bring it close to 1.4M then all of the lockdowns and destruction of our societal norms and restriction on government will have been for nothing.
If instead they can claim, really only 300K died and most were going to die anyways they will start to claim that the lockdowns and freedom killing were worth it and should be done again for the next virus de jour.
I hope she does “natural immunity“ next!
New song (to the “Sponge Bob Square Pants” tune)
Are you ready? I can’t hear you!
Ohhhhhh, who lives in a fright world and wants you there too?
(Co-vid Freak-outs!)
And if you decline, they will smear you with poo! (Co-vid Freak-outs!)
If “Science-y” nonsense is something you wish, (Co-vid Freak-outs)
Then take up the jab and go flop like a fish! (Co-vid Freak-outs)
Repeat “Co-vid Freak outs” multiple times and end with maniacal laughter.
What do you think? Keep my day job? Oh yeah—can’t—MANDATES.
(Obviously have too much time on my hands…..)
Love me some SpongeBob/Covid combo
An apology we all deserve... But that we'll never get.
UNVACCINATED (PureBloods) people can contract and transmit the Cough IT 1984 Wuhan Bio Weapon Virus
PureBlood Response....Wuhan Tony, Willie the Vaccinator, et al insist that I get a safe and effective LabRatInjection for the virus with over a 99% survival rate. I choose my immune system thanks. Now, if it was the...........Ebola,Virus?
Vaccinated Response..I'll take the LRI thanks, you do you, I'll do me, Respect!
Vaccinated Puritan Response..Go get vaccinated you effin awhole, how many effin people have to die because of your selfishness, you stupid, effin awhole, I hope you all effin die!
###ALL POINTS BULLETIN### ALL POINTS BULLETIN###ALL POINTS BULLETIN###
VACCINATED people can contract and transmit the Cough IT 1984 Wuhan Bio Weapon Virus
Puritan Correct Response..Oh man(head bowed in shame), I've got Cough IT 1984 egg all over my face! And to think I was the one saying ' follow the science' all this time, I feel terrible! I offer my most heartfelt and sincerest apologies to all the people that I have directed my profound and ignorant hate at/to! Let's work together and leave this Plandemic behind once and for all. I am truly sorry!!
PURITAN ACTUAL RESPONSE..Go get vaccinated you effin awhole, how many effin people have to die because of your selfishness, you stupid, effin awhole, I hope you all effin die!
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-monday-january-caf?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo1MDU2ODczOCwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDY4ODU2ODQsIl8iOiI3bEpnWSIsImlhdCI6MTY0MTgzNDU1NywiZXhwIjoxNjQxODM4MTU3LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNDYzNDA5Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.2RQ6jws3PBUTdG4JTdiZtkCv0X0axBie_CkT8OVLXSY
So, now that they are scrambling for more positive messaging surrounding the vaccines they are going to try to use what we have been saying all along regarding the realities of this virus.
I can’t wait until the CDC endorses the Great Barrington Declaration as the best way to balance societal needs and Omicron spread :)
Funny (well no, but...) thing: Bob Saget died in his sleep a month after his booster shot (per Daily Mail). Now, his two sisters died in young mid-adulthood: one from a brain aneurism and the other from scleroderma, an auto-immune disease. So, non-healthcare professional though I may be, I'd say there's a strong family history of genetic issues that our Wonder Shot might perhaps not be entirely safe to administer in the presence of. And I'll bet no physician advising regarding or administering the vax to Saget ever asked about family history, or anything, really...
This non-healthcare professional seconds your assessment.
Don't wait on that apology, it will never come.
Your Personal Panic Merchants of Perpetual Misery (we all know them) have adopted the old, "In for a penny, in for a pound" concept and merged it with "Sunk cost fallacy" to create a Forever Covid Reality. Masking toddlers, discussions of a second round of boosters (maybe more, please!!), advocating banning the unvaxxed from society, those jackals won't stop, they've finally found their purpose.
I've cut them all out of my life, I suggest you do the same. Move on without them, their lives stopped in April 2020 and they are trying to hold you back from living yours.
Powerful words! Thank you !
Coulld it be that (1) Ms Walensky is being set up as the fall-lady and will shortly be replaced, with someone with better spin talent (a better liar!), and (2) She is queueing up the MSM (Gutter Press) to start introducing the magical reducion in the number of 'actual' covid deaths, and the abject scam that was the PCR test. Not necessarily in that order BTW!!!
Just an FYI. 12 studies below keep us contemporary with the science, show us that the pandemic is over, OMICRON is a mild cold, and the vaccines continue to fail disastrously; we are creating super shedders! https://palexander.substack.com/p/breaking-news-while-vaccines-fail?
And what about the people who died because life saving drugs were withheld?
Was it late spring 2020 when Team Reality that was preaching this?
Wasn't there some noise a couple weeks ago about Menge...er, Fauxi retiring? Maybe part of a pivot via replacement, have her appear "reasonable" & "honest."
Mr Haney and Joe Isuzu strike out again.
YES! One thousand times yes.
Well said gatito. I've been saying this for nearly 2 years now and am glad the CDC is finally listening to me.
We had a similar problem in the 80s & 90s with AIDS. Another Fauci fiasco. Regardless of actual cause of death, anyone with a positive hiv test was counted as an "aids death" this was especially bad in Africa where they didn't even test for HIV but used WHOs Bangui definition.
Bueno ver otro borincano Aqui. Yo soy Cariduro
I wonder why the narrative is changing? I suppose they want to emerge as anti vaccine if Trump runs again?
Even in this admission, Walensky is still lying.
"For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death."
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR0nz36pTfb8BZPwtxJ49-s8lHV7lQ1eQSmk0r06QueL6Eem4pWSzJz9Ouc#Comorbidities
Did you see Bourla's comments from yesterday? Why are they now admitting reality?
https://dossier.substack.com/p/shock-video-pfizer-ceo-says-current
Meanwhile back in the kitchen….
https://youtu.be/_zgoENmeddA
I think Kermit has it wrong. If your friend made an honest speculation about a possible outcome and you rejected it out of hand, yes an apology or at least acknowledgement that their guess was right is in order.
But I can make guesses until the cows come home, and crow about that one guess I got right: doesn't mean I know Jack about sh*t. Only that I finally through sheer quantity lucked out.
Like playing all the numbers on the roulette at the same time and claiming to "have figured out the system" because one of them came up.
Let me make a predicition: there'll be an earthquake in Japan before year's end. There'll be a tornado in the US blamed on climate change. Electricity crisis in Europe will continue to escalate and blame be more and more focused on Putin as a pretext for an armed response to russian interventionism in it's bordering nations.
All of these /will/ happen, beciause they are vague enough about specific details that they can, semantically, be adapted to fit what actually happens.
Of curse, none of the above is a problem. I'm not a CEO of a harm-aceutical company, nor a politician or bureaucrat. I can predict whatever and it only affects me.
Problem is when it's people like US president Harris and her owners and cronies getting it tits up.
It's amazing... I seem to remember hearing this from "conspiracy theorists" in 2020. I can almost feel these people in my lap from 2000 miles away there's so much back peddling going on.
Everyone start practicing this…..
https://youtu.be/CtGxusvUT3k
Eugyppius echoes many of the same thoughts as this one. Many (not all) nations are backing off (some) of their mandates.
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/wendepunkt
https://www.facebook.com/1054955717/posts/10223720610697334/?d=n
Shock video: Pfizer CEO says current COVID shots 'don't have the safety profile' they once hoped for
https://dossier.substack.com/p/shock-video-pfizer-ceo-says-current?
Just out of curiosity I wonder how Bob Saget died? Bet you don't hear too much going forward.
What question was she answering?
What question was she answering?
gato malo has good taste in music, gatito. i think we need to share this song with ALL of the people in charge of this mess... before we take them to court that is.