Don't forget to factor in Vitamin D levels. They tend to be low in general in populations in more northern countries, but particularly low in those dark skinned who live in northern countries.
Don't forget to factor in Vitamin D levels. They tend to be low in general in populations in more northern countries, but particularly low in those dark skinned who live in northern countries.
It wouldn't be a constant throughout-vitamin D3 levels rise from sun exposure between late April and mid-October in northern latitudes. Vitamin D is fat soluble so adequate stores would last a few months until December. The peak insufficiency in vitamin D3 levels is from December until May basically.
Wouldn't that depend on where (ie, how far north?) one lives? My research into this has said sun exposure from pretty much mid June to mid September (and even only a few hours a day) produces rise in D levels.
Absolutely. I am in Montreal so I am at a lower latitude than people in the UK so I was going with my latitude of 45┬░. I think London is at 51┬░. It makes a difference of months. So for this article you are right, it would be a longer period of vitamin D3 deficiency for UK residents. https://www.grassrootshealth.net/document/sunshine-calendar/
It would explain it if a large portion of the population started on Vit D after that correlation became more wildly known. Hospitals & nursing homes change protocols, etc.
i wondered about this, especially when the virologists on This Week in Virology (TWIV) got all social justicey and started to proclaim that racial disparities in outcomes were due solely to "systemic racism" and not to other issues. in fact they actually said that the claim of lower vitamin D levels in black people was "egregious."
but i don't recall anyone ever claiming that sickle cell anemia disparities were due to systemic racism. why does that condition get a pass? probably because they can't stretch it's origins, no matter how hard they try, to include american slavery.
I don't get scientists who are supposed to be EVIDENCE BASED stick their toes into the abstract social justice realm. It's waaaay past their wheel house.
I stopped listening to TWIV because I sensed they were sympathetic to that nonsense. No time for science that doesn't stick to science and facts.
I will say this. Dr. Racaniello said in May of 2020 pouring money into vaccines was going to be a waste and that investing in anti-virals would have rendered a better return and results.
The very idea that "the science is settled" is anti-scientific. And a lot of these mantras and social justice aspects sound more like a religion, or a cult, than science.
I vote for cult. When you have "scientists" who alter/lie about data (University of East Anglia/IPCC for "global warming"), ignore data (CDC and VAERS reporting) or ghost/gaslight people who ask for accountability and honest, truthful answers - I'd say cult is a good label for these types of people.
i'm not opposed to people going "outside of their wheel house." after all that claim could be leveled at us. surely you've heard this: just shut up and trust the experts. you can't do your own research.
i still listen to TWIV although to a much lesser degree. i find them too smug for words. you'll be happy to know that Racaniello has changed his mind; he now proclaims the vaccines "miracles" of modern science and why we should flood them with unrestricted tax dollars because GOF research will enable the development of more vaccines for viruses we haven't even created (oops, i mean discovered) yet to save the world
Fun fact: People with sickle cells are less likely to contract malaria. It is thought to be a genetic variation that developed due to prevalence of malaria in many regions of Africa. The slave trade is one way that these African traits ended up in the US. Sickle cell recessive trait is very common in West African adults, but not sickle cell disease. It is speculated that most African children with sickle cell disease do not survive childhood. Black Americans with Sickle Cell have a lower life expectancy, but are more likely to survive childhood
well, that's been suggested and maybe even tried. if they can just make an air borne virus that attacks people with a certain genetic ancestry, then they could target only chinese people or whoever was your enemy du jour.
there were papers early on about how this virus attacked ACE2 receptors, and the variantion of ACE2 receptor expression by race/ethnicity made some groups more vulnerable than others. I'm not saying it's eugenics, but don't discount the possibility that things are engineered to harm some more than others. That said, ACE2 isn't the only pathway for infection, maybe just primary in the original/wild strain
Yes! And I had a sneaking suspicion that it was a plan to ruin Trump's presidency! He was actually making America great again! Couldn't let that happen.
That is exactly what I was thinking when I read the article Vitamin D has shown to be such an important factor in fighting off viruses. Pre-Jab there was not much being reported by the complicit media about alternative tx. once the jab was here the media doubled down against alternatives. The press is responsible for an immense amounts of the deaths.
And the fascinating thing about Vitamin D is its relation to skin color, i.e., fair skin in the north helps to produce Vitamin D in a relatively low sunlight environment whereas the sunny climes near the equator favor darker skin to prevent burns because there is ample sunshine for healthy Vitamin D levels.
In other words, darker skinned people living in the north are much more vulnerable to corona virus than their cousins in the south and are perhaps the most at-risk group in terms of skin color. Conversely, a fair skinned person in the with lots of sunshine would likely have very high Vitamin D levels but with the downside of being more prone to sunburn.
I don't have a link handy but Bret Weinstein and some of his podcast guest have spoken at length about the issue.
Light skin *can* absorb Vitamin D more readily in northern climstes, yes, but still, that's really for about 3 months a year where i live in Canada, and less the further north you go. There's a reason those in northern countries traditionally are fish esters - and cod liver oil drinkers! (I remember being struck, early on in Covid) about a blogger, a physician I think, talking about breakfast buffets in Sweden having cod liver oil in little cups!
The above article explains pretty much what the dark horse pod cast video states. Dr. John Campbell has a very good youtube video reviewing the article, it's only about 30 minutes.
Don't forget to factor in Vitamin D levels. They tend to be low in general in populations in more northern countries, but particularly low in those dark skinned who live in northern countries.
but this would be constant throughout.
it does not explain or even speak to the sudden change in relative rates in april 2022.
It wouldn't be a constant throughout-vitamin D3 levels rise from sun exposure between late April and mid-October in northern latitudes. Vitamin D is fat soluble so adequate stores would last a few months until December. The peak insufficiency in vitamin D3 levels is from December until May basically.
Wouldn't that depend on where (ie, how far north?) one lives? My research into this has said sun exposure from pretty much mid June to mid September (and even only a few hours a day) produces rise in D levels.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20413135/#:~:text=Between%2070%25%20and%2097%25%20of,Canadians%20have%20profoundly%20deficient%20levels.
Absolutely. I am in Montreal so I am at a lower latitude than people in the UK so I was going with my latitude of 45┬░. I think London is at 51┬░. It makes a difference of months. So for this article you are right, it would be a longer period of vitamin D3 deficiency for UK residents. https://www.grassrootshealth.net/document/sunshine-calendar/
Assuming people expose themselves sufficiently to the sun without sunscreen
This is English data so we can assume they live in England.
Thank you
Rates of death? I agree. I was only commenting on why the rates were so high in dark skinned people to begin with.
It would explain it if a large portion of the population started on Vit D after that correlation became more wildly known. Hospitals & nursing homes change protocols, etc.
it would explain the sudden change if the weather in april was inviting people to get out and be exposed to the sun.
It's worth mentioning that we had a pretty cloudy and wet spring in the UK.
i wondered about this, especially when the virologists on This Week in Virology (TWIV) got all social justicey and started to proclaim that racial disparities in outcomes were due solely to "systemic racism" and not to other issues. in fact they actually said that the claim of lower vitamin D levels in black people was "egregious."
but i don't recall anyone ever claiming that sickle cell anemia disparities were due to systemic racism. why does that condition get a pass? probably because they can't stretch it's origins, no matter how hard they try, to include american slavery.
I don't get scientists who are supposed to be EVIDENCE BASED stick their toes into the abstract social justice realm. It's waaaay past their wheel house.
I stopped listening to TWIV because I sensed they were sympathetic to that nonsense. No time for science that doesn't stick to science and facts.
I will say this. Dr. Racaniello said in May of 2020 pouring money into vaccines was going to be a waste and that investing in anti-virals would have rendered a better return and results.
He saw the likelihood of success was low.
The very idea that "the science is settled" is anti-scientific. And a lot of these mantras and social justice aspects sound more like a religion, or a cult, than science.
I vote for cult. When you have "scientists" who alter/lie about data (University of East Anglia/IPCC for "global warming"), ignore data (CDC and VAERS reporting) or ghost/gaslight people who ask for accountability and honest, truthful answers - I'd say cult is a good label for these types of people.
I stopped listening to TWIV when they said, "Tony is a great guy."
Swell, stand-up guy experimenting on babies and beagles. Clueless people.
then you probably didn't listen in when the great man did a guest slot on their podcast
omg would rather die than listen to that pos ever again
i'm not opposed to people going "outside of their wheel house." after all that claim could be leveled at us. surely you've heard this: just shut up and trust the experts. you can't do your own research.
i still listen to TWIV although to a much lesser degree. i find them too smug for words. you'll be happy to know that Racaniello has changed his mind; he now proclaims the vaccines "miracles" of modern science and why we should flood them with unrestricted tax dollars because GOF research will enable the development of more vaccines for viruses we haven't even created (oops, i mean discovered) yet to save the world
Fun fact: People with sickle cells are less likely to contract malaria. It is thought to be a genetic variation that developed due to prevalence of malaria in many regions of Africa. The slave trade is one way that these African traits ended up in the US. Sickle cell recessive trait is very common in West African adults, but not sickle cell disease. It is speculated that most African children with sickle cell disease do not survive childhood. Black Americans with Sickle Cell have a lower life expectancy, but are more likely to survive childhood
Yes I know all that but the point is no one says that the reason blacks have more sickle cell anemia than white people is because of systemic racism
Wouldn't that be something? If "scientists" could make a virus more deadly in some races but not others! Racist virus!
well, that's been suggested and maybe even tried. if they can just make an air borne virus that attacks people with a certain genetic ancestry, then they could target only chinese people or whoever was your enemy du jour.
isn't that sick?
So evil!
there were papers early on about how this virus attacked ACE2 receptors, and the variantion of ACE2 receptor expression by race/ethnicity made some groups more vulnerable than others. I'm not saying it's eugenics, but don't discount the possibility that things are engineered to harm some more than others. That said, ACE2 isn't the only pathway for infection, maybe just primary in the original/wild strain
This world is going to shit! Nothing surprises me anymore!
100% agree. I barely learned anything new during this pandemic, I was just happy to have more company in reality ;-)
Yes! And I had a sneaking suspicion that it was a plan to ruin Trump's presidency! He was actually making America great again! Couldn't let that happen.
That is exactly what I was thinking when I read the article Vitamin D has shown to be such an important factor in fighting off viruses. Pre-Jab there was not much being reported by the complicit media about alternative tx. once the jab was here the media doubled down against alternatives. The press is responsible for an immense amounts of the deaths.
And the fascinating thing about Vitamin D is its relation to skin color, i.e., fair skin in the north helps to produce Vitamin D in a relatively low sunlight environment whereas the sunny climes near the equator favor darker skin to prevent burns because there is ample sunshine for healthy Vitamin D levels.
In other words, darker skinned people living in the north are much more vulnerable to corona virus than their cousins in the south and are perhaps the most at-risk group in terms of skin color. Conversely, a fair skinned person in the with lots of sunshine would likely have very high Vitamin D levels but with the downside of being more prone to sunburn.
I don't have a link handy but Bret Weinstein and some of his podcast guest have spoken at length about the issue.
Re: that Brett Weinstein podcast, it was mentioned that 50% of the deaths in Sweden were Somali immigrants. That makes perfect sense.
Light skin *can* absorb Vitamin D more readily in northern climstes, yes, but still, that's really for about 3 months a year where i live in Canada, and less the further north you go. There's a reason those in northern countries traditionally are fish esters - and cod liver oil drinkers! (I remember being struck, early on in Covid) about a blogger, a physician I think, talking about breakfast buffets in Sweden having cod liver oil in little cups!
https://youtu.be/8LFkWiNP1wQ
YouтАЩll never think of Vitamin D the same again. :-)
more food for thought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_xA0KR-dVU
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8541492/
The above article explains pretty much what the dark horse pod cast video states. Dr. John Campbell has a very good youtube video reviewing the article, it's only about 30 minutes.
Sorry for spelling & missing caps! ЁЯШо
Oops - I didn't read this before posting my comment making the exact point.