As I have posted on several sites already, we were thaught that pregnant women and lactating women do NOT take any drugs at all, Nothing. No aspirin, no benadryl, nothing at all. Certainly barely tested injections of chemicals known to be hazardous, should be totally out of the question. Any doctor telling a pregnant woman to take drugs or injections should loose their licence. This was known 50 years ago and it still stands.
I know I was completely paranoid with my first pregnancy - didn't even eat chocolate. I definitely lightened up by my 6th, though, and must confess to taking ibuprofen during the first two trimesters for the treatment of crippling migraines.
In pregnancy, if you don't absolutely direly need the drug, you don't take it.
Pregnancy is an arduous undertaking. It's hard physical work with costs to the mother's body, but in a wanted pregnancy they're worth it. In this more than almost any other situation I can think of, better to endure a little discomfort or distress than take a risk of enormous consequences.
Which I believe is totally consistent with what I said.
I'm not suggesting taking all the drugs. I simply suggested that there might be some that, on net, the mother should continue if it's in the best interest of mother and child.
A problem I think these days in particular is the lack of time the average physician has to really listen to, counsel and seek alternative options for patients in every clinical situation. Much easier to prescribe stuff claimed to be "safe."
And if a pregnant woman needs her job, needs to save sick and maternity leave days, etc. etc., and can't take time off she'd be best advised to when feeling unwell or exhausted, there's much more pressure to take drugs because time and rest aren't easily accessed options. So of course if a woman is for example feeling anxious or depressed because she's overwhelmed by unavoidable stress, the physician may prescribe drugs to get her through even though those are really not the best clinical decision.
Everything depends on definition of terms and of practical real-life options and those often work against actual wise use.
I myself dislike pain a lot, for example, but sometimes enduring some of it is better long-term than taking an analgesic. I don't believe in unnecessary suffering but I also think too many women these days don't recognize that nothing in life is free and pregnancy is something that must be paid for, one way or another.
Again - I have not inferred or implied that mothers should be stuffing themselves with drugs. Merely that the health or even life of the mother, and subsequently the child, might depend upon their treatment.
Yes, of course. In life general advice must always be modified for the actual individual patient. Sometimes it's the least bad option rather than a good vs. bad choice.
I loved being pregnant because it was such a miraculous wanted state of being, but I spent all of it looking like a lizard. Nothing like all that gestating baby boy testosterone to destroy mommy's springtime complexion.
But for what was termed an elderly primigravida who worked full-time until predicted due date (at which point my OBGYN suggested it was time to take maternity leave and avoid any chance of going into labor on the NYC subway), I felt great.
Yes! This is one of many tactics used by the "Medical/Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex" to turn the bloodstream into a "drugstream" for new cash-streams.
Isn't it curious that a diagnosis or risk of a disease becomes so much easier and prevalent (and standardized) when a new drug/vaccine is launched?
This is the greatest achievement of the Medical/Pharma Industrial Complex":
To diminish individual care by reduction of healthcare to an aperture that can only capture care through the lense of general public healthcare.
Through this myopic lense, healthcare becomes vulnerable to being captured.
Hmmm....it's almost as if general public healthcare is defined by The Complex in order to eliminate individual care. Very similar to the common good fallacy.
That is the current driving force of The Complex:
A system where a physician does not have to think when a diagnosis comes rolling through as the sidecar of a new drug/vaccine - same thing with diagnostics referrals, i.e., MRI's, etc., etc.
Funny that billing doesn't require thinking either and that insurance is a driver of diagnosis. The only thinking required is what is billable.
Why do you think the first thing you do when you visit a doctor is to fill out forms with insurance information?
Excellent points! MD's went from being detectives and advocates for the individual to being chart readers following "the Standard of Care" today. Sadly my black lab gets more intimate and individualized attention from his vet than I get from any doctors, although I have to be vigilant with Vets also with their "vaccinate first" m.o.
The relative risk reminds me of the studies done on statins- if one out of 2 participants did well, it was seen as a 50% improvement, without taking into consideration the other 98 participants that did not. Incredible.
Like they say, the devil is in the details. Yet so many say that, and never go into detail! It takes a little thing called thinking...which requires a mental sweat.
I was prescribed statins years ago. My heart was healthy and the doc advised them due to family history and slightly elevated cholesterol. Tried them all and couldn't abide them....nausea and joint pain. I found that statins were in a class of drugs that I am allergic to. I am almost 81 and seem to have done fine without them. I don't really blame the doc, they get overwhelmed with what seems to be the protocol of the day. The same thing occurred with the Wuhan vaxes. Overwhelming pressure and threats to doctors for not toeing the line. When it comes to the politicized medical industry today, I have become an angry and cynical old coot.
Yes the cholesterol and diet sciences are bad and beyond corrupt. I get CAC scores on my heart / arteries every few years as a check point. If out of control going to have issues eventually. When my dad finally did at age 80+, machine could not register, stents would not work, quadruple bypass surgery shortly after.
Widowmaker is a good summary movie/video with Ivor Cummins
We now know (and have for years) that statins do nothing to prevent a first heart attack in most people. Pharma keeps lowering the cholesterol limits without any evidence of improved outcomes, except for their bottom lines.
My mother was prescribed DES when pregnant with me in the late 1960s. For those not familiar with this, DES was manufactured and marketed by Abbott Labs beginning in the 1940s to prevent miscarriage. In reality, it was never any more effective than a placebo and Abbott knew this early on but they continued to market it and make money from it. Turns out, DES was a teratogen, causing a rare reproductive cancer in some of the daughters of the women who took it when pregnant with those daughters. This was discovered in the early 1970s. What this meant for me was early and repeated screenings for cancer (all good there by the grace of God), many decades of worry, extra exams during pregnancy and a complete distrust of drug companies. As for this RSV vaccine, it’s just another bad idea. To the extent possible, pregnant women should avoid putting anything into their bodies for which long term outcomes are not known. This has been the standard rule for a long time.
I have heard that there are signals that they used other thing. I only have two comments:
- If using other vaccine instead of saline in order to hide adverse reactions is common practice in vaccinology, it would make sense that they have used the same trick.
- A guy that got injured in the Pfiser trials in Argentina managed to get some info from the military hospital that was in control of the trials. In that documentation they state that saline was to be bought as saline.
At the expense of beating a dead horse here, we really need to look at the rest of the CDC schedule, and stop assuming that Vaccine Science™️ wasn’t corrupted.. before Covid...
I mean, before covid it was recommended that a human get 69 doses prior to their 18th birthday. In case that wasn’t generally known.
Several years ago there was a particularly nasty RSV season. Our children’s hospital was completely overrrun, even with double rooming patients we had zero beds left, we had to take over parts of the neighboring adult hospital, it was nuts. When there was a code in a patient in the adult hospital we had to run from the children’s ICU across the bleeping block, through all sorts of tunnels/doors to make it to the poor kid in the adult bed. So, so many suffering children, such crazy long/hard hours, madness.
Did the local paper feature this devastating plague on the front page? Did the city lock down? Heck, we didn’t even get a story on A5, and life never paused for a moment.
It was that experience probably more than any other that showed me early on what an insane scam Covid was regarding kids. Unlike Covid, RSV is really truly dangerous to lots and lots of littles! It makes no sense - zero, nada - to panic in schools/daycares over Covid after years and years of ignoring RSV. Ugh, so maddening.
Anyway, a truly safe and effective RSV vaccine would be wonderful! Too bad I now trust an online kitten fetishist infinitely more than the FDA on whether such a vaccine truly exists…
The aim of developing the RSV vaxx is not to prevent illness nor prevent transmission. The goal is to get the FDA and CDC to add it to the roster of recommended vaccines so that it will be given universally and in perpetuity to all pregnant women. I’m sure they are looking to add a similar vaxx to the childhood vaccine schedule. This has nothing whatsoever to do with improving health outcomes in children. The health of the children is entirely irrelevant to the people pushing these things.
Twice in the past month my colleagues have provided anesthesia to parturients that had babies break through the placenta. They had emergency cesareans and when the uterus was incised the OBs stared in disbelief, "Where is the baby?" In the peritoneum, of course! One baby survived, the other did not. Heavily juiced with mRNA technology in case you were wondering. These placental abnormalities are extremely worrisome. Wonder what kind of wonders we will find with this poison down the line?
Speaking of drug design, five years from now all of western civilization will be taking Eli Lilly's weight loss drug, Mounjaro. No doubt it is perfectly safe and effective. We won't need to worry about RSV and excipients. We will be skinny and own nothing!
If it’s like the other one, once you take it, you are on it for good. I hear once you get off of it, you gain the weight back and sometimes more than you had to start. No thanks
Yup. My friend on it complains she’s not losing weight and she is experiencing the known side effects, that she never asked about, looked up nor her doc ever told her about. Sigh🙄
I’m sure my friend will be fine. I’m just hoping diabetics can get what helps them but there are lifestyle and diet changes that will do the same thing without pharmaceuticals and the attendant side effects. Type 2 and pre diabetes of course. . I get it though. I never say anything but when friends mention their Rx I look them up just in case they are recommended for me in the future.
All of these weight loss drugs are great when it comes to losing weight but the second you stop the drug you gain it all back so, of course, you restart the drug. Rinse and repeat. Big Pharma has gained another permanent customer.
re #6--this a main point in Turtles All the Way Down book. virtually all children's vax's use these odd "placebos". as though there is shortage of saline the world. it is always another vaccine or experimental vax minus the virus. as though nothing but the active ingredient could cause safety issues. this is just plain scientific fraud.
I haven’t even read Turtles All the Way Down, or Dissolving Illusions. And I think... so coming from the perspective of having only read the “milder” material on this, and finding the sources myself and at least breaking the “beyond a reasonable doubt” threshold... I think that says something too. Like, the data is f*cked enough without having to have it laid out in front of me.
I took the time to dig, years ago, vaccine by vaccine. There’s just too much doubt.
I found too much corruption, too much silencing, too much “consensus” without question... and then here’s the kicker...
When COVID happened, i predicted every friggin step of the way, every research scam, every media spin, every policy attempt...? Why, because it. WASN’T NEW. It was the same games. The same studies. The same cohorts. The same methods. The same spins. The same lockstep policies. The same incentives.
Deep dives like this make me question putting any vax in my kids ever again. I am printing all of these, and when the docs give me push back in the office when I decline I will politely hand them the mile high pile of articles like this I have accumulated over the last 3 years. We all know most of these doctors could care less about these studies and only care about the bottom dollar/what they are being told by "the experts.
You are correct. In pharmacy school, I was stunned to learn that the young doctors we trained with had one single quarter of formal training in pharmacology. We pharmacists had 5 years of nothing but drugs, drugs, drugs. They could prescribe, we could not. Silly world we live in.
Yeah. I wish Gato would dive into them all. Just starting with Hep B. That one is insane enough to keep one digging. By the time one gets to the Gardasil one it’s a pretty easy call.
fwiw, i find the evidence for some vaccines quite compelling. MMR for example. but i also think adding a 3rd dose of it to the pediatric schedule is indefensible profiteering and net negative expected value for kids.
flu vaccines are awful gardasil is worse.
in general, i'd be pretty skeptical of anything added to the schedule since 1986.
Same. Though aluminum compounds aren’t safe and a known issue but the industry has zero interests in providing s safer product. Also compare Danish vs USA schedule. Why more doses of dtap prevnar etc? Are American kids bad vax responders? Also one mmr after 18-23 months tends to illicit lasting titers. We did one and titers at age 5, no further shots needed. Now chickenpox I’ve had 4 (first 2 for green card) and foolishly got more after no antibodies. Still zero antibodies. HepB at birth? Are we kidding? Problems galore.
Hep B. I assume the OP means its addition to the childhood schedule, to neonates. Guess how many babies they evaluated for how long to move this from an adult vaccine to a neonatal one, and determine it safe and effective? I’ve asked several pharmaceutical analysts (used to evaluating drug studies) and they guess thousands and months.
Nope and nope. Look it up. It’s on the label. Utterly shocking.
Hep B... if I can recall correctly (sitting in a parking lot right now, and the last time I really dove into this was years ago lol) about 98% of childhood cases are vertical transmission (from mother to infant). Whether this can be attributed to childhood vaxx is another debate here but just keeping that in mind.... and most mother to infant transmission I believe can also be tied to IV drug use... some debate here but also worth picking apart.
Then, to top it off, the Heb B vaxx at birth, again I believe and someone correct me if I’m wrong, doubles the risk of ICU admission for newborn fever.
And as a cherry on top, I’m pretty sure the study that got that one approved for infant administration was about as good as the the ones that got covid approved for kids.
There are people who’ve done a LOT of work on each vaccine and the risk of contracting, the risk of complications, and the risk of death, along with the general downward trend in disease (again the contraction, complication, death outcome) leading up to the introduction of said vaccines.
While I didn’t start off as a “right wing anti-vaxx nut,” I slowly and methodically got here, mostly solely based on the blatant corruption of data and the spin of conclusions.
I’m just a lowly mom with two somewhat useless associate degrees, so don’t take my word for it. There are a lot of folks in my boat waiting for someone who clearly has the chops for this to take it on and dive deep off the shoulders of giants who have spent their lives on this but have been ignored - that’s why we are here. 🙂
Honestly I think it’s because more Hepatitis B is spread through medical care and in hospitals than medical professionals wanted to admit and if you vaccinate newborns then you can’t accidentally infect them with Hep B during later medical procedures. It’s the only explanation I can come up with for the recommended timing (I would love to see a study measuring immune response as I’m guessing it’s mostly nonexistent at a day old.)
I know one reason they recommended making it a universal childhood vaccine is because it turns out people with high risk lifestyles who benefited most from the vaccine weren’t doing the responsible thing and getting vaccinated. But that doesn’t explain the timing of the vaccines compared to others.
Yeah. I used to hear that most countries didn’t give it until 6 months, but the last time I looked for that data I couldn’t find it. All I updated find was WHO recommendations... and as we are quickly learning, they seem corrupt to the core..
Even Dr Sears. His book was rather milquetoast, and he has said repeatedly it was literally just so that he could get it published so people would stop and think.
His other material like his deep dives are something else entirely. It is most certainly where I have been able to learn the most, and he is very good at laying out exactly where his data comes from so you can go look yourselves.
He doesn’t really take a stance, per se, but what he has to say is most certainly eye opening enough to make one look.
I was pro-vax until the Covid Vax. Once appraised of the completely upside down risk/ reward profile, the lies, and fraud, I began to wonder, “What about all the other vaccines?” After reading “Turtles All the Way Down”, I shouldn’t have been shocked that not even one vax on the childhood schedule was tested against a clean placebo. Everyone in the Gov/ Pharma complex engaged in these atrocities deserves hard time.
I am wondering if anyone has done any studies on the link between aggressive vaccination schedules and the rise of autoimmune diseases. One would think that with all the vaccines out there for just about everything under the sun, there wouldn't be as many people who are immunocompromised, that this would be a rare thing. But no. When I hear about how many vaccinations babies and kids are subjected to, I wonder, are we not giving their immune systems time to develop naturally? My God, my 9-month-old kitten only received three vaccines and a booster, yet I am hearing that babies and little kids can get upwards of 50 shots before entering school! Something isn't right. I don't think our immune system can handle such an onslaught.
Yeah it has actually been done. There are definitely studies, but I can’t speak to the validity because at this point I am burned out on them. Like I hardly want to know anymore.
I can tell you my immune system broke after the Anthrax series. And now I can’t eat anything. Correlation? Causation? Who cares, the VA doesn’t lol. They make it impossible to prove, so it’s impossible to study by design.
People want to know. Manufacturers and Policy Makers don’t. It’s quite a cash crop and I’ll just leave it there.
Vaccine placebos are never saline. They are another vaccine, or a shot with the adjuvants without the pathogen... at least if I recall correctly (it’s been years). Easy way to hide adverse events caused by adjuvants.
As I have posted on several sites already, we were thaught that pregnant women and lactating women do NOT take any drugs at all, Nothing. No aspirin, no benadryl, nothing at all. Certainly barely tested injections of chemicals known to be hazardous, should be totally out of the question. Any doctor telling a pregnant woman to take drugs or injections should loose their licence. This was known 50 years ago and it still stands.
I know I was completely paranoid with my first pregnancy - didn't even eat chocolate. I definitely lightened up by my 6th, though, and must confess to taking ibuprofen during the first two trimesters for the treatment of crippling migraines.
I took quite a bit of Tylenol during my first pregnancy...
Cutting out all drugs is not the proper response to some drugs being ineffective or harmful.
I suspect the well-being of the child would be at greater risk if the mother's physical, or maybe especially, emotional health risks go unmitigated.
It's probably best for the child to have a healthy, sane mother for most of the rest of their life.
In pregnancy, if you don't absolutely direly need the drug, you don't take it.
Pregnancy is an arduous undertaking. It's hard physical work with costs to the mother's body, but in a wanted pregnancy they're worth it. In this more than almost any other situation I can think of, better to endure a little discomfort or distress than take a risk of enormous consequences.
Which I believe is totally consistent with what I said.
I'm not suggesting taking all the drugs. I simply suggested that there might be some that, on net, the mother should continue if it's in the best interest of mother and child.
A problem I think these days in particular is the lack of time the average physician has to really listen to, counsel and seek alternative options for patients in every clinical situation. Much easier to prescribe stuff claimed to be "safe."
And if a pregnant woman needs her job, needs to save sick and maternity leave days, etc. etc., and can't take time off she'd be best advised to when feeling unwell or exhausted, there's much more pressure to take drugs because time and rest aren't easily accessed options. So of course if a woman is for example feeling anxious or depressed because she's overwhelmed by unavoidable stress, the physician may prescribe drugs to get her through even though those are really not the best clinical decision.
Everything depends on definition of terms and of practical real-life options and those often work against actual wise use.
I myself dislike pain a lot, for example, but sometimes enduring some of it is better long-term than taking an analgesic. I don't believe in unnecessary suffering but I also think too many women these days don't recognize that nothing in life is free and pregnancy is something that must be paid for, one way or another.
Again - I have not inferred or implied that mothers should be stuffing themselves with drugs. Merely that the health or even life of the mother, and subsequently the child, might depend upon their treatment.
"Everything depends on definition of terms and of practical real-life options and *those often work against actual wise use.*"
I suspect there are cases where it's wise if the health or well-being of the mother is at risk which would put the child at risk.
Yes, of course. In life general advice must always be modified for the actual individual patient. Sometimes it's the least bad option rather than a good vs. bad choice.
Delivery is an arduous undertaking but pregnancy was wonderful! My hair, nails, complexion, health, everything was wonderful! I loved being pregnant!
I loved being pregnant because it was such a miraculous wanted state of being, but I spent all of it looking like a lizard. Nothing like all that gestating baby boy testosterone to destroy mommy's springtime complexion.
But for what was termed an elderly primigravida who worked full-time until predicted due date (at which point my OBGYN suggested it was time to take maternity leave and avoid any chance of going into labor on the NYC subway), I felt great.
I loved every minute of pregnancy, but my husband supported our family, I didn't work until my kids were older & in school. Why did you wait?
I realized what I wanted most in the world just in the nick of time.
Bingo.
No one says stop taking insulin, right?
It is logic and common sense.
my mom smoked like a chimney and drank gallons of coffee. yet, here I am, still kicking.
but you're right, no drugs period when pregnant... remember thalidomide?
Yes. It was awful. These people are now about my age. I wonder how many wasted away in institutions.
I’m sure the relentless TV ad campaign will admonish pregnant women to get the RSV vaccine to show they care about their unborn child.
Yes! This is one of many tactics used by the "Medical/Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex" to turn the bloodstream into a "drugstream" for new cash-streams.
Isn't it curious that a diagnosis or risk of a disease becomes so much easier and prevalent (and standardized) when a new drug/vaccine is launched?
This is the greatest achievement of the Medical/Pharma Industrial Complex":
To diminish individual care by reduction of healthcare to an aperture that can only capture care through the lense of general public healthcare.
Through this myopic lense, healthcare becomes vulnerable to being captured.
Hmmm....it's almost as if general public healthcare is defined by The Complex in order to eliminate individual care. Very similar to the common good fallacy.
That is the current driving force of The Complex:
A system where a physician does not have to think when a diagnosis comes rolling through as the sidecar of a new drug/vaccine - same thing with diagnostics referrals, i.e., MRI's, etc., etc.
Funny that billing doesn't require thinking either and that insurance is a driver of diagnosis. The only thinking required is what is billable.
Why do you think the first thing you do when you visit a doctor is to fill out forms with insurance information?
Excellent points! MD's went from being detectives and advocates for the individual to being chart readers following "the Standard of Care" today. Sadly my black lab gets more intimate and individualized attention from his vet than I get from any doctors, although I have to be vigilant with Vets also with their "vaccinate first" m.o.
So true. The irony of it all is that very few pet owners would allow their pets to be experimented on with a dodgy drug platform.
Yet many did it to themselves without much thought.
For the fascist totalitarian Great Resetters, next best thing to an abortion.
Or to prejudice women (via multiple medical “requirements”) into choosing not to bear children themselves.
Oh, GUILT! What a manipulative, effective marketing ploy!
The relative risk reminds me of the studies done on statins- if one out of 2 participants did well, it was seen as a 50% improvement, without taking into consideration the other 98 participants that did not. Incredible.
https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/how-electricity-created-heart-disease
yes, that's a classic example of a massive moneymaker drug with no meaningful benefits.
i fear it was something of a roadmap the industry locked onto.
Like they say, the devil is in the details. Yet so many say that, and never go into detail! It takes a little thing called thinking...which requires a mental sweat.
I was prescribed statins years ago. My heart was healthy and the doc advised them due to family history and slightly elevated cholesterol. Tried them all and couldn't abide them....nausea and joint pain. I found that statins were in a class of drugs that I am allergic to. I am almost 81 and seem to have done fine without them. I don't really blame the doc, they get overwhelmed with what seems to be the protocol of the day. The same thing occurred with the Wuhan vaxes. Overwhelming pressure and threats to doctors for not toeing the line. When it comes to the politicized medical industry today, I have become an angry and cynical old coot.
Yes the cholesterol and diet sciences are bad and beyond corrupt. I get CAC scores on my heart / arteries every few years as a check point. If out of control going to have issues eventually. When my dad finally did at age 80+, machine could not register, stents would not work, quadruple bypass surgery shortly after.
Widowmaker is a good summary movie/video with Ivor Cummins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSPcuGjstN4
We now know (and have for years) that statins do nothing to prevent a first heart attack in most people. Pharma keeps lowering the cholesterol limits without any evidence of improved outcomes, except for their bottom lines.
Great article, as well as many others in your substack. Thanks for posting this link.
Thank you so much Kat! I appreciate your kind feedback and support. What struck you the most as an "aha" moment about this article?
Exactly
My mother was prescribed DES when pregnant with me in the late 1960s. For those not familiar with this, DES was manufactured and marketed by Abbott Labs beginning in the 1940s to prevent miscarriage. In reality, it was never any more effective than a placebo and Abbott knew this early on but they continued to market it and make money from it. Turns out, DES was a teratogen, causing a rare reproductive cancer in some of the daughters of the women who took it when pregnant with those daughters. This was discovered in the early 1970s. What this meant for me was early and repeated screenings for cancer (all good there by the grace of God), many decades of worry, extra exams during pregnancy and a complete distrust of drug companies. As for this RSV vaccine, it’s just another bad idea. To the extent possible, pregnant women should avoid putting anything into their bodies for which long term outcomes are not known. This has been the standard rule for a long time.
It is well documented [1] that placebo is never saline in vaccine trials, it is always other vaccine. I wonder what they used for the clotshots.
If you compare the safety of jumping from a 3rd floor against jumping from a 3rd floor, your safety signal will look pretty decent.
[1] Turtles all the way down
That’s not strictly true: it is the case for those on the childhood vaccine schedules though. The book is clear on this.
I wonder what they used in the control groups for the Covid jabs, too. Does anyone know?
Astra Zeneca used meningococcal vaccine. Chock full of nasty adverse effects.
I have heard that there are signals that they used other thing. I only have two comments:
- If using other vaccine instead of saline in order to hide adverse reactions is common practice in vaccinology, it would make sense that they have used the same trick.
- A guy that got injured in the Pfiser trials in Argentina managed to get some info from the military hospital that was in control of the trials. In that documentation they state that saline was to be bought as saline.
At the expense of beating a dead horse here, we really need to look at the rest of the CDC schedule, and stop assuming that Vaccine Science™️ wasn’t corrupted.. before Covid...
I mean, before covid it was recommended that a human get 69 doses prior to their 18th birthday. In case that wasn’t generally known.
Several years ago there was a particularly nasty RSV season. Our children’s hospital was completely overrrun, even with double rooming patients we had zero beds left, we had to take over parts of the neighboring adult hospital, it was nuts. When there was a code in a patient in the adult hospital we had to run from the children’s ICU across the bleeping block, through all sorts of tunnels/doors to make it to the poor kid in the adult bed. So, so many suffering children, such crazy long/hard hours, madness.
Did the local paper feature this devastating plague on the front page? Did the city lock down? Heck, we didn’t even get a story on A5, and life never paused for a moment.
It was that experience probably more than any other that showed me early on what an insane scam Covid was regarding kids. Unlike Covid, RSV is really truly dangerous to lots and lots of littles! It makes no sense - zero, nada - to panic in schools/daycares over Covid after years and years of ignoring RSV. Ugh, so maddening.
Anyway, a truly safe and effective RSV vaccine would be wonderful! Too bad I now trust an online kitten fetishist infinitely more than the FDA on whether such a vaccine truly exists…
Gaty.substack.com
The aim of developing the RSV vaxx is not to prevent illness nor prevent transmission. The goal is to get the FDA and CDC to add it to the roster of recommended vaccines so that it will be given universally and in perpetuity to all pregnant women. I’m sure they are looking to add a similar vaxx to the childhood vaccine schedule. This has nothing whatsoever to do with improving health outcomes in children. The health of the children is entirely irrelevant to the people pushing these things.
It's so obvious that the model is to make new additions to the schedule unobvious to young parents that put their kids in school.
That's the "beauty" of it.
Twice in the past month my colleagues have provided anesthesia to parturients that had babies break through the placenta. They had emergency cesareans and when the uterus was incised the OBs stared in disbelief, "Where is the baby?" In the peritoneum, of course! One baby survived, the other did not. Heavily juiced with mRNA technology in case you were wondering. These placental abnormalities are extremely worrisome. Wonder what kind of wonders we will find with this poison down the line?
It’s kind of disconcerting the surgeons didn’t notice the hole in the uterus and the lack of a fetus prior to making the incision in the uterus...
Heartbreaking, and so strange! Yet we're supposed to believe that everything's perfectly normal.
I cannot even imagine this...in the peritoneum??🤯
Speaking of drug design, five years from now all of western civilization will be taking Eli Lilly's weight loss drug, Mounjaro. No doubt it is perfectly safe and effective. We won't need to worry about RSV and excipients. We will be skinny and own nothing!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ozempic-mounjaro-weight-loss-drug-wegovy-eli-lilly-66f2906
If it’s like the other one, once you take it, you are on it for good. I hear once you get off of it, you gain the weight back and sometimes more than you had to start. No thanks
Yup. My friend on it complains she’s not losing weight and she is experiencing the known side effects, that she never asked about, looked up nor her doc ever told her about. Sigh🙄
Most of these drugs work by slowing down your digestive system. I'm sure this won't cause any long term health problems to your digestion.... /s
I’m sure my friend will be fine. I’m just hoping diabetics can get what helps them but there are lifestyle and diet changes that will do the same thing without pharmaceuticals and the attendant side effects. Type 2 and pre diabetes of course. . I get it though. I never say anything but when friends mention their Rx I look them up just in case they are recommended for me in the future.
Better living through chemistry!
Better put "better" in quotes
Then there's the potential pancreatic cancer risk with it. Serious weight loss then,though!
All of these weight loss drugs are great when it comes to losing weight but the second you stop the drug you gain it all back so, of course, you restart the drug. Rinse and repeat. Big Pharma has gained another permanent customer.
re #6--this a main point in Turtles All the Way Down book. virtually all children's vax's use these odd "placebos". as though there is shortage of saline the world. it is always another vaccine or experimental vax minus the virus. as though nothing but the active ingredient could cause safety issues. this is just plain scientific fraud.
I haven’t even read Turtles All the Way Down, or Dissolving Illusions. And I think... so coming from the perspective of having only read the “milder” material on this, and finding the sources myself and at least breaking the “beyond a reasonable doubt” threshold... I think that says something too. Like, the data is f*cked enough without having to have it laid out in front of me.
I took the time to dig, years ago, vaccine by vaccine. There’s just too much doubt.
I found too much corruption, too much silencing, too much “consensus” without question... and then here’s the kicker...
When COVID happened, i predicted every friggin step of the way, every research scam, every media spin, every policy attempt...? Why, because it. WASN’T NEW. It was the same games. The same studies. The same cohorts. The same methods. The same spins. The same lockstep policies. The same incentives.
That, I think, is the larger confirmation.
Deep dives like this make me question putting any vax in my kids ever again. I am printing all of these, and when the docs give me push back in the office when I decline I will politely hand them the mile high pile of articles like this I have accumulated over the last 3 years. We all know most of these doctors could care less about these studies and only care about the bottom dollar/what they are being told by "the experts.
Most of the Doctors only do what the drug company rep tells them.
You are correct. In pharmacy school, I was stunned to learn that the young doctors we trained with had one single quarter of formal training in pharmacology. We pharmacists had 5 years of nothing but drugs, drugs, drugs. They could prescribe, we could not. Silly world we live in.
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Good luck finding a doctor who is actually able and willing to speak about anything other than what the AAP and CDC recommend
Yeah. I wish Gato would dive into them all. Just starting with Hep B. That one is insane enough to keep one digging. By the time one gets to the Gardasil one it’s a pretty easy call.
this one is always a bit of a third rail.
fwiw, i find the evidence for some vaccines quite compelling. MMR for example. but i also think adding a 3rd dose of it to the pediatric schedule is indefensible profiteering and net negative expected value for kids.
flu vaccines are awful gardasil is worse.
in general, i'd be pretty skeptical of anything added to the schedule since 1986.
i have not looked at hep C.
what's the issue there?
Same. Though aluminum compounds aren’t safe and a known issue but the industry has zero interests in providing s safer product. Also compare Danish vs USA schedule. Why more doses of dtap prevnar etc? Are American kids bad vax responders? Also one mmr after 18-23 months tends to illicit lasting titers. We did one and titers at age 5, no further shots needed. Now chickenpox I’ve had 4 (first 2 for green card) and foolishly got more after no antibodies. Still zero antibodies. HepB at birth? Are we kidding? Problems galore.
Hep B. I assume the OP means its addition to the childhood schedule, to neonates. Guess how many babies they evaluated for how long to move this from an adult vaccine to a neonatal one, and determine it safe and effective? I’ve asked several pharmaceutical analysts (used to evaluating drug studies) and they guess thousands and months.
Nope and nope. Look it up. It’s on the label. Utterly shocking.
You are exactly correct. Yes that is what I meant. And yeah... it’s quite something isn’t it?
Hep B... if I can recall correctly (sitting in a parking lot right now, and the last time I really dove into this was years ago lol) about 98% of childhood cases are vertical transmission (from mother to infant). Whether this can be attributed to childhood vaxx is another debate here but just keeping that in mind.... and most mother to infant transmission I believe can also be tied to IV drug use... some debate here but also worth picking apart.
Then, to top it off, the Heb B vaxx at birth, again I believe and someone correct me if I’m wrong, doubles the risk of ICU admission for newborn fever.
And as a cherry on top, I’m pretty sure the study that got that one approved for infant administration was about as good as the the ones that got covid approved for kids.
There are people who’ve done a LOT of work on each vaccine and the risk of contracting, the risk of complications, and the risk of death, along with the general downward trend in disease (again the contraction, complication, death outcome) leading up to the introduction of said vaccines.
While I didn’t start off as a “right wing anti-vaxx nut,” I slowly and methodically got here, mostly solely based on the blatant corruption of data and the spin of conclusions.
I’m just a lowly mom with two somewhat useless associate degrees, so don’t take my word for it. There are a lot of folks in my boat waiting for someone who clearly has the chops for this to take it on and dive deep off the shoulders of giants who have spent their lives on this but have been ignored - that’s why we are here. 🙂
I can’t see why a baby needs a vax for a mainly sexually-transmitted disease
Honestly I think it’s because more Hepatitis B is spread through medical care and in hospitals than medical professionals wanted to admit and if you vaccinate newborns then you can’t accidentally infect them with Hep B during later medical procedures. It’s the only explanation I can come up with for the recommended timing (I would love to see a study measuring immune response as I’m guessing it’s mostly nonexistent at a day old.)
I know one reason they recommended making it a universal childhood vaccine is because it turns out people with high risk lifestyles who benefited most from the vaccine weren’t doing the responsible thing and getting vaccinated. But that doesn’t explain the timing of the vaccines compared to others.
Yeah. I used to hear that most countries didn’t give it until 6 months, but the last time I looked for that data I couldn’t find it. All I updated find was WHO recommendations... and as we are quickly learning, they seem corrupt to the core..
Typos sorry
Check out A Midwestern Doctors stack for breakdowns of most vaccs.
Even Dr Sears. His book was rather milquetoast, and he has said repeatedly it was literally just so that he could get it published so people would stop and think.
His other material like his deep dives are something else entirely. It is most certainly where I have been able to learn the most, and he is very good at laying out exactly where his data comes from so you can go look yourselves.
He doesn’t really take a stance, per se, but what he has to say is most certainly eye opening enough to make one look.
I was pro-vax until the Covid Vax. Once appraised of the completely upside down risk/ reward profile, the lies, and fraud, I began to wonder, “What about all the other vaccines?” After reading “Turtles All the Way Down”, I shouldn’t have been shocked that not even one vax on the childhood schedule was tested against a clean placebo. Everyone in the Gov/ Pharma complex engaged in these atrocities deserves hard time.
I am wondering if anyone has done any studies on the link between aggressive vaccination schedules and the rise of autoimmune diseases. One would think that with all the vaccines out there for just about everything under the sun, there wouldn't be as many people who are immunocompromised, that this would be a rare thing. But no. When I hear about how many vaccinations babies and kids are subjected to, I wonder, are we not giving their immune systems time to develop naturally? My God, my 9-month-old kitten only received three vaccines and a booster, yet I am hearing that babies and little kids can get upwards of 50 shots before entering school! Something isn't right. I don't think our immune system can handle such an onslaught.
the current schedule looks excessive to me, but i suspect the spike in autoimmune is driven more by "hygiene hypothesis" and bad diet.
Yeah it has actually been done. There are definitely studies, but I can’t speak to the validity because at this point I am burned out on them. Like I hardly want to know anymore.
I can tell you my immune system broke after the Anthrax series. And now I can’t eat anything. Correlation? Causation? Who cares, the VA doesn’t lol. They make it impossible to prove, so it’s impossible to study by design.
People want to know. Manufacturers and Policy Makers don’t. It’s quite a cash crop and I’ll just leave it there.
Great stuff, as usual.
I’m going with the heuristic: if it’s manufactured by Pfizer, pass on it.
Good catch on the makeup of the placebo. The bastards.
Vaccine placebos are never saline. They are another vaccine, or a shot with the adjuvants without the pathogen... at least if I recall correctly (it’s been years). Easy way to hide adverse events caused by adjuvants.
There might be some that are saline. It’s just possible I haven’t seen them so I might be out of line.
Lol sometimes that info is hard to find