Oh Keith: if we we're afraid of anything we'd be wearing 3 masks, latex or nitrile gloves, face shield, those surgical shoe coverings, and carrying a ruler to insure an exact 6' distance between us and the nearest human being. I'm skeptical of the jab, not scared of it. I AM scared of psychopathic humans who'd like nothing more than to hold me down and force something into my body.
Hell yeah I’m afraid of a taking a novel nonreversible drug with no long term testing and off the charts short term side effects. How is that something to be denigrated?
Here's what I tweeted in response: You spiker idiot. If it so good why do you need 3 shots and me to do the same? You are the one who is afraid otherwise you wouldn't be intentionally converting your cells to produce a known cytotoxin. Enjoy your heart and vascular damage you spiker idiot.
They're getting boosters because they're afraid the first two didn't work. It takes a special kind of cognitive dissonance to believe a third one will make everything all better.
Keith is such a disappointment. All this goes to show me that people love fascism and authoritarians as long as they agree with the political party that propels them.
he's been off the planet for years, and he was never worth a damn anyway. What has disappointed you here? He's doing the same as usual, although, at least with his mask we don't get to see the spittle flying when he goes on his deranged rants.
Indeed! But I'm too courageous to to go outside among breathing human beings to get the injection, so I'm being especially brave by staying home and having a dozen of them deliviered in a pizza box. A baker's dozen for my health!
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I only link to it for proof people are being paid to push the vax. No, I would absolutely not rely on it, or any legacy media account for the truth on hospitalization rates. Stick to boriquagato, Mathew Crawford, and others in the alternative media for the real statistics. For example, it appears in Australia, 95% of hospitalizations are among the vaccinated, meaning they are now in all likelihood being overrun with vaccine injuries and illnesses..
Your question is similar (but not identical) to the claim made in the linked article. But both are likely very deceptive. In "my" article's case: Where is the flaw in their argument? The very long time sample: January to August. What doesn't the article tell you, but you could find by checking CDC and other data? Simple: the sample period begins when almost no one was vaccinated (the vaxxes weren't even available before December, 2020), also start date captures the enormous seasonal peak of winter cases. While I didn't double-check the data, it's likely this article is a case of technically not lying, but instead telling an irrelevant truth. They would only have been slightly less silly to claim the same time period a year earlier, and say 100% were unvaxxed.
Please never forget: the truth is a scarce commodity in the media. Especially so when they have vested interests to promote or suppress certain views.
How is it that so few people, not to mention so few organizations readily imposing them, seem unwilling to challenge WHY there is such an obsession with vaccines and mandates? Can one of you smart scientist fellas out there explain in simple terms exactly what public good is expected to be accomplished by vaccine mandates, other than, um, forcing everyone to get a vaccine? With every passing day it seems more and more clear that these vaccines don’t solve the problem they purported to solve. What public health or societal benefit is proposed to be achieved by mass mandates? Why aren’t people demanding an answer to that question while corporations and hospitals and schools and airlines and vital governmental agencies are mandating vaccines for all and in the process inflicting massive harm on people? Near as I can tell, vaccinated people still become infected. They also still transmit infection to others. Even the mandate enforcers grudgingly acknowledge those facts. Sure, some small subset of vaccinated people may possibly suffer less severe outcomes if they become infected, but how does requiring everyone else to be vaccinated benefit them? Evidence seems mounting that whatever benefit may accrue to that subset is fleeting any may not provide any real gain at all, especially when factoring in the near term and longer term harms. Besides, aren’t therapeutics the medically preferred option for dealing with just these circumstances? Come to think of it, if they don’t prevent infection nor transmission, aren’t therapeutics what the “vaccines” really are? Again, what is the logic behind requiring everyone to get vaccinated if they don’t prevent you from becoming infected or from infecting others and provide no material benefit to the vast majority of those subjected to them? Imposing a therapeutic on everyone, forcing them to bear known and unknown side effects when more than 99% are not at risk seems, well, questionable at best for the policy’s stated purpose, assuming there is a stated purpose beyond simply injecting everyone. “Look, Mom, we’ve gotten everyone to wear their tin foil hats. Now what happens?”
Forcing those who question or object to such senseless policy mandates to lose their jobs, their livelihoods, their education, their ability to travel freely, dine in restaurants, attend sporting events and concerts, etc. while severely damaging our healthcare system, our education system, our military readiness, our police and fire departments, and more, seems the very definition of Machiavellian insanity. How is a vaccine mandate meaningfully different from mandating chemo treatment for everyone just in case some few may get cancer? Don’t we limit treatment to only the ill and leave the other 99%+ alone? Requiring mass treatment of those who don’t need it and don’t benefit from it doesn’t change the outcomes for those needing treatment.
It’s as though everyone was invited to join the Mickey Mouse Club. They got to wear Mickey Mouse ears and were promised treats and games and all sorts of fun. Then, they were told everyone HAD to join because it would be so much fun, and you all MUST wear the ears - ALWAYS. Then, it turned out there were no treats. No games. No fun or even any club at all. The ears are too big or too small for most. They are too heavy or too flimsy. They were made in China using materials perhaps toxic to many. A few ears may fit, but still you got no treats or fun. And don’t dare remove those ears. You MUST wear the ears ALWAYS! No matter that there are no games and no fun or treats as promised. No matter that the ears are silly and unnecessary or even painful and perhaps harmful to many. You will all wear the ears because we SAID you all must wear ears even without a club or treats or fun.
Sounds a little too Jim Jones-esque for my taste, but then again, I never was much for kool-aid. It must be an acquired taste. “Trust me, the kool-aid is delicious once you get used to it.”
My thoughts exactly. Every time the media or government talk about COVID they always say "everyone must get vaccinated". But no-one ever properly explains why. They'll run a story about how there is an outbreak at some nursing home and say 95% of staff and residents were vaccinated but then say its really important everyone gets vaccinated. Why is it no-one ever says that doesn't make any sense?
It called collectivism. They want universal collectivism. Thus, it's imperative that everyone submits and participates. And it must be a uniform response, so alternative drugs or natural immunity is rejected. It's the same spirit behind fascism and communism. As individualists, it's hard to understand. Conversely, they struggle to understand us. They throw up their arms in frustration wondering, "Why can't they play along? Why are so freakin' stubborn?" Collectivists see beauty, virtue, and hope in unity and cooperation. They see the "group"or "society" as the supreme unit. Submission of individuality for the good of the whole is the ultimate act of virtue. Fear serves to ignite their collectivist urges, thus collectivism is demanded for the sake of collectivism, even if it clearly serves only a mystical purpose. It's their knee-jerk reaction to panic. My big question - Is covid really to cause of their fear? Or is this a pre-existing anxiety that has latched itself to covid? If it is, we could have a long road ahead.
"Is covid really to cause of their fear?" Psychologist Mattias Desmet pointed out that the sort of witch hunts we're seeing now develop when society has already become very anxious. Since he puts it better, I'll give you a link to one of his short videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8i6zv5zK3I
Hospitals don't want to deal with infectious disease patients (they needed bailouts), but if someone has heart problems or a stroke because of the vax, that's good business.
Disney is the perfect analogy for the vaxx. No one is ever pronounced dead at the parks, if a guest is sick there's code announced between the cast members and over the speakers to maintain the "happiest place on Earth where nothing goes wrong" façade, etc.
#8. Social disapproval: "Social disapproval from one’s community can play an important role in preventing 'anti-social' behaviour or discouraging failure to enact pro-social behaviour"
Appendix B: APEASE evaluation grid: (2)Use media to increase sense of personal threat, (3)Use media to increase sense of responsibility to others (8)Consider use of social disapproval for failure to comply
From SAGE document "Options for increasing adherence to social distancing measures" 22nd March 2020
#2. "Improve feelings" The second step the WEF recommend public health officials implement involves propaganda and harassment using direct phone calls, discussions, and social media apps to get family and friends vaccinated
From "World Economic Forum Releases Guide on How to Coerce and Manipulate Public into Getting the Covid-19 Vaccine" titled: "3 tactics to overcome COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy"
I don't know Olbermann (nor do I wish to), but I will agree with just one of his claims. In fact, we are "afraid" -- of coercion to vaccinate everybody with medications that are innovative and largely of an untested nature, and with unproven (and evidently less than promised) safety and efficacy. Never in our lives, perhaps not in our history, did people face loss of employment, or refusal to be hired, to attend a school, or even go into restaurants and countless other everyday activities, solely because we chose to not try a questionable medicine. Why the insistence that the young, even small children, be vaccinated with what can be reasonably called an experimental product? Why are we forcing millions of people, who are statistically at very low risk of the disease, to potentially fall victim to sudden death, severe illness, or other short and long term effects?
By all means, call us any disparaging names you like. But please don't take away our civil liberties just because we don't want to get on the vaxx train. Most of us will take our chances with a virus that -- in all probability -- poses us very little risk. If we take the vaxxes, we get -- at best -- temporary protection but at a cost of serious injury or death. Early reports put the risks of the vaxxes at many multiples of traditional vaccines. The unvaxxed are no threat to the vaxxed. Your trying to force us to join the club shows that there is a deeper, unsavory agenda in play.
It's past time to ask nicely. Forget about pleading. I'm done with the "please and thank you". We all need to fight back with whatever means available. Millions of people are protesting in Europe. Try to find local rallies. Connect with freedom-loving neighbors. Boycott businesses that require the v passports or pcr tests. And get active in local politics because THIS AGENDA IS POLITICAL. I was a Democrat my whole life (57 y.o.) but the only politicians defending my rights to medical freedom are Republicans. So, I am voting for ALL Republicans for now because I've become a 1-issue voter. This is for my kids (17 & 19) who are feeling trapped. This is for the future of our democracy. We must fight to avoid turning into Australia.
Same reason I am “scared” to not drive while drunk… Do not want to take unnecessary risk! What a weird argument he is making. If the vaccine was actually effective his argument would be completely different… They have absolutely nothing to stand on.
I would say it's more manipulation than argument. One of the problems we've seen is that people who want to push masks on everyone, lockdown on everyone, vaccines on everyone have resorted to smearing and fearmongering rather than explaining their views with facts. (Of course, if they lack facts, it explains why they resort to childish but damaging behavior.)
You say they have nothing to stand on but au contraire mon ami. They have: a HIGH HORSE! It's so high and getting higher by the day! But it will be high-larious when said horse finally bucks and throws them off.
Oh Keith: if we we're afraid of anything we'd be wearing 3 masks, latex or nitrile gloves, face shield, those surgical shoe coverings, and carrying a ruler to insure an exact 6' distance between us and the nearest human being. I'm skeptical of the jab, not scared of it. I AM scared of psychopathic humans who'd like nothing more than to hold me down and force something into my body.
Well said.
Hell yeah I’m afraid of a taking a novel nonreversible drug with no long term testing and off the charts short term side effects. How is that something to be denigrated?
That is not being afraid that is being rational.
Here's what I tweeted in response: You spiker idiot. If it so good why do you need 3 shots and me to do the same? You are the one who is afraid otherwise you wouldn't be intentionally converting your cells to produce a known cytotoxin. Enjoy your heart and vascular damage you spiker idiot.
They're getting boosters because they're afraid the first two didn't work. It takes a special kind of cognitive dissonance to believe a third one will make everything all better.
They'll never admit they were wrong. A liberal rule.
It's truly sad. Here's an account of a woman dying from the booster. Of course, she went to her death cursing the unvaxxed but you know she knew what was really killing her. https://thecovidblog.com/2021/09/22/karen-croake-heisler-67-year-old-former-notre-dame-professor-says-damn-the-unvaccinated-dead-12-days-after-third-pfizer-mrna-injection/
Third time's the harm, perhaps.
🤣😂🤣😂. Love your tweeted response!!!!
Oh, yeah. I was gonna join the Russian roulette club, but I was AFRAID.
His argument basically is, “What are ya, chicken?”
It’s like high schoolers pressuring each other to try their first beer.
Yep. Keith is the poster child of bat guano crazy. But this is plain childish.
https://youtu.be/JmRnj08amO4
Keith is such a disappointment. All this goes to show me that people love fascism and authoritarians as long as they agree with the political party that propels them.
he's been off the planet for years, and he was never worth a damn anyway. What has disappointed you here? He's doing the same as usual, although, at least with his mask we don't get to see the spittle flying when he goes on his deranged rants.
We are entering the final phase of the Romans 1 curse…
…given over to a Debased, reprobate mind, unable to think
"their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened."
Yep, amen
Think bigger:
The coming of the lawless one is [...] with all wicked deception for those who are perishing...
Amen
Meanwhile, I just saw a very witty comment somewhere: If the vaccine were mosquito repellant, it would be glue.
if this vaccine were cannibal repellent, it would be steak sauce.
Oh, gosh. Bite your tongue. At this point, neither cannibals nor zombies would shock me.
It's why lobbyists get the big bucks to play games with wording and this liability free cash cow is billed as saving humanity! *smirk*
Wow. Very impressive. I’m not afraid, so I am going to run out on Monday and get the jab. Good job, Keith. Impeccable convincing logic!!! /sarc
Indeed! But I'm too courageous to to go outside among breathing human beings to get the injection, so I'm being especially brave by staying home and having a dozen of them deliviered in a pizza box. A baker's dozen for my health!
Keith Olbermann spewing hate and bile while looking like a 50-year old lumpy hausfrau someone put in a cheap suit?
Stop the presses.
YOU and YOURS are the hateful, screaming coward zombies and we will live to make you PAY. Enjoy your overlong 15 minutes, you piece of shit.
Too kind. He is one nasty, introspectively witless being.
I've long had a theory that his public appearance is an entirely crafted persona, like Ann Coulter.
For his sake I hope so.
How much did Pfizer's PR department pay him to say that?
They're paying "social media influencers" 1000 a pop, so you can be sure they're paying the big dogs a *lot* more.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2021/08/04/thousand-dollar-cash-payments-and-tiktok-influencer-army-are-part-of-the-campaign-to-get-people-vaccinated/
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In this article it states "Over 99% of Covid-19 deaths have been among the unvaccinated last month (July)."
This would imply a very, very low vaccinated death rate.
Was this statement correct?
Is it still correct?
I only link to it for proof people are being paid to push the vax. No, I would absolutely not rely on it, or any legacy media account for the truth on hospitalization rates. Stick to boriquagato, Mathew Crawford, and others in the alternative media for the real statistics. For example, it appears in Australia, 95% of hospitalizations are among the vaccinated, meaning they are now in all likelihood being overrun with vaccine injuries and illnesses..
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=substack_profile
That claim appeared widely in the press. Here's a sample article I bookmarked as an example of crazy propaganda:
https://www.foxnews.com/health/covid-19-hospitalizations-nonvaccinated
Your question is similar (but not identical) to the claim made in the linked article. But both are likely very deceptive. In "my" article's case: Where is the flaw in their argument? The very long time sample: January to August. What doesn't the article tell you, but you could find by checking CDC and other data? Simple: the sample period begins when almost no one was vaccinated (the vaxxes weren't even available before December, 2020), also start date captures the enormous seasonal peak of winter cases. While I didn't double-check the data, it's likely this article is a case of technically not lying, but instead telling an irrelevant truth. They would only have been slightly less silly to claim the same time period a year earlier, and say 100% were unvaxxed.
Please never forget: the truth is a scarce commodity in the media. Especially so when they have vested interests to promote or suppress certain views.
I hope they paid him *something*. But, alas, I am sure he's being a dumbass for free.
To be fair, he’s made a lot more money being a dumbass than I have.
Ah, he's a true believer then. He's dumber than I thought. (I'd never heard of him before.)
He was a host on MSDNC for several years, using the same jerkoff attitude you saw. Far left conspiracy theorist, worse than MadCow.
He gained prominence in media during the Iraq war and was highly critical of George W. Bush.
Actually was the sports desk guy in LA decades back
then got hired by ESPN to be a desk guy there
which got him looked-at by NYC media
which... you know the rest
Oh wow I didn't know that! Interesting. Considering how woke I hear that ESPN has become, he'd still be at home there.
Lol he's probably doing this for free.
Thanks for posting this.
How is it that so few people, not to mention so few organizations readily imposing them, seem unwilling to challenge WHY there is such an obsession with vaccines and mandates? Can one of you smart scientist fellas out there explain in simple terms exactly what public good is expected to be accomplished by vaccine mandates, other than, um, forcing everyone to get a vaccine? With every passing day it seems more and more clear that these vaccines don’t solve the problem they purported to solve. What public health or societal benefit is proposed to be achieved by mass mandates? Why aren’t people demanding an answer to that question while corporations and hospitals and schools and airlines and vital governmental agencies are mandating vaccines for all and in the process inflicting massive harm on people? Near as I can tell, vaccinated people still become infected. They also still transmit infection to others. Even the mandate enforcers grudgingly acknowledge those facts. Sure, some small subset of vaccinated people may possibly suffer less severe outcomes if they become infected, but how does requiring everyone else to be vaccinated benefit them? Evidence seems mounting that whatever benefit may accrue to that subset is fleeting any may not provide any real gain at all, especially when factoring in the near term and longer term harms. Besides, aren’t therapeutics the medically preferred option for dealing with just these circumstances? Come to think of it, if they don’t prevent infection nor transmission, aren’t therapeutics what the “vaccines” really are? Again, what is the logic behind requiring everyone to get vaccinated if they don’t prevent you from becoming infected or from infecting others and provide no material benefit to the vast majority of those subjected to them? Imposing a therapeutic on everyone, forcing them to bear known and unknown side effects when more than 99% are not at risk seems, well, questionable at best for the policy’s stated purpose, assuming there is a stated purpose beyond simply injecting everyone. “Look, Mom, we’ve gotten everyone to wear their tin foil hats. Now what happens?”
Forcing those who question or object to such senseless policy mandates to lose their jobs, their livelihoods, their education, their ability to travel freely, dine in restaurants, attend sporting events and concerts, etc. while severely damaging our healthcare system, our education system, our military readiness, our police and fire departments, and more, seems the very definition of Machiavellian insanity. How is a vaccine mandate meaningfully different from mandating chemo treatment for everyone just in case some few may get cancer? Don’t we limit treatment to only the ill and leave the other 99%+ alone? Requiring mass treatment of those who don’t need it and don’t benefit from it doesn’t change the outcomes for those needing treatment.
It’s as though everyone was invited to join the Mickey Mouse Club. They got to wear Mickey Mouse ears and were promised treats and games and all sorts of fun. Then, they were told everyone HAD to join because it would be so much fun, and you all MUST wear the ears - ALWAYS. Then, it turned out there were no treats. No games. No fun or even any club at all. The ears are too big or too small for most. They are too heavy or too flimsy. They were made in China using materials perhaps toxic to many. A few ears may fit, but still you got no treats or fun. And don’t dare remove those ears. You MUST wear the ears ALWAYS! No matter that there are no games and no fun or treats as promised. No matter that the ears are silly and unnecessary or even painful and perhaps harmful to many. You will all wear the ears because we SAID you all must wear ears even without a club or treats or fun.
Sounds a little too Jim Jones-esque for my taste, but then again, I never was much for kool-aid. It must be an acquired taste. “Trust me, the kool-aid is delicious once you get used to it.”
My thoughts exactly. Every time the media or government talk about COVID they always say "everyone must get vaccinated". But no-one ever properly explains why. They'll run a story about how there is an outbreak at some nursing home and say 95% of staff and residents were vaccinated but then say its really important everyone gets vaccinated. Why is it no-one ever says that doesn't make any sense?
It called collectivism. They want universal collectivism. Thus, it's imperative that everyone submits and participates. And it must be a uniform response, so alternative drugs or natural immunity is rejected. It's the same spirit behind fascism and communism. As individualists, it's hard to understand. Conversely, they struggle to understand us. They throw up their arms in frustration wondering, "Why can't they play along? Why are so freakin' stubborn?" Collectivists see beauty, virtue, and hope in unity and cooperation. They see the "group"or "society" as the supreme unit. Submission of individuality for the good of the whole is the ultimate act of virtue. Fear serves to ignite their collectivist urges, thus collectivism is demanded for the sake of collectivism, even if it clearly serves only a mystical purpose. It's their knee-jerk reaction to panic. My big question - Is covid really to cause of their fear? Or is this a pre-existing anxiety that has latched itself to covid? If it is, we could have a long road ahead.
"Is covid really to cause of their fear?" Psychologist Mattias Desmet pointed out that the sort of witch hunts we're seeing now develop when society has already become very anxious. Since he puts it better, I'll give you a link to one of his short videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8i6zv5zK3I
Wow. Thanks for sharing.
Hospitals don't want to deal with infectious disease patients (they needed bailouts), but if someone has heart problems or a stroke because of the vax, that's good business.
Disney is the perfect analogy for the vaxx. No one is ever pronounced dead at the parks, if a guest is sick there's code announced between the cast members and over the speakers to maintain the "happiest place on Earth where nothing goes wrong" façade, etc.
#8. Social disapproval: "Social disapproval from one’s community can play an important role in preventing 'anti-social' behaviour or discouraging failure to enact pro-social behaviour"
Appendix B: APEASE evaluation grid: (2)Use media to increase sense of personal threat, (3)Use media to increase sense of responsibility to others (8)Consider use of social disapproval for failure to comply
From SAGE document "Options for increasing adherence to social distancing measures" 22nd March 2020
#2. "Improve feelings" The second step the WEF recommend public health officials implement involves propaganda and harassment using direct phone calls, discussions, and social media apps to get family and friends vaccinated
From "World Economic Forum Releases Guide on How to Coerce and Manipulate Public into Getting the Covid-19 Vaccine" titled: "3 tactics to overcome COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy"
"Biderman's chart of coercion" https://youtu.be/dDQR8MhBigE
I don't know Olbermann (nor do I wish to), but I will agree with just one of his claims. In fact, we are "afraid" -- of coercion to vaccinate everybody with medications that are innovative and largely of an untested nature, and with unproven (and evidently less than promised) safety and efficacy. Never in our lives, perhaps not in our history, did people face loss of employment, or refusal to be hired, to attend a school, or even go into restaurants and countless other everyday activities, solely because we chose to not try a questionable medicine. Why the insistence that the young, even small children, be vaccinated with what can be reasonably called an experimental product? Why are we forcing millions of people, who are statistically at very low risk of the disease, to potentially fall victim to sudden death, severe illness, or other short and long term effects?
By all means, call us any disparaging names you like. But please don't take away our civil liberties just because we don't want to get on the vaxx train. Most of us will take our chances with a virus that -- in all probability -- poses us very little risk. If we take the vaxxes, we get -- at best -- temporary protection but at a cost of serious injury or death. Early reports put the risks of the vaxxes at many multiples of traditional vaccines. The unvaxxed are no threat to the vaxxed. Your trying to force us to join the club shows that there is a deeper, unsavory agenda in play.
It's past time to ask nicely. Forget about pleading. I'm done with the "please and thank you". We all need to fight back with whatever means available. Millions of people are protesting in Europe. Try to find local rallies. Connect with freedom-loving neighbors. Boycott businesses that require the v passports or pcr tests. And get active in local politics because THIS AGENDA IS POLITICAL. I was a Democrat my whole life (57 y.o.) but the only politicians defending my rights to medical freedom are Republicans. So, I am voting for ALL Republicans for now because I've become a 1-issue voter. This is for my kids (17 & 19) who are feeling trapped. This is for the future of our democracy. We must fight to avoid turning into Australia.
Nice response!
Same reason I am “scared” to not drive while drunk… Do not want to take unnecessary risk! What a weird argument he is making. If the vaccine was actually effective his argument would be completely different… They have absolutely nothing to stand on.
I would say it's more manipulation than argument. One of the problems we've seen is that people who want to push masks on everyone, lockdown on everyone, vaccines on everyone have resorted to smearing and fearmongering rather than explaining their views with facts. (Of course, if they lack facts, it explains why they resort to childish but damaging behavior.)
Are you scared to play hot potato with a hand grenade?? Wimp!!
Maybe if it's the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
Indeed. I eat hand grenades for breakfast!
THEEEEY'RE GRRREAT😀👍❗
You say they have nothing to stand on but au contraire mon ami. They have: a HIGH HORSE! It's so high and getting higher by the day! But it will be high-larious when said horse finally bucks and throws them off.
To my mind the most terrified are the ones blaiming everything on the unvaccinated.
Mass psychosis anyone?
https://youtu.be/09maaUaRT4M
Keith is a classic malignant narcissist and psychopath.