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Jestre's avatar

Better memory B cells, T cells, and longer lasting antibodies. It is no competition. Natural immunity is better and it is becoming clear we should have let the virus do its thing while protecting old people, promoting health, and locking up most pharmaceutical executives.

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And for those keeping score, my personal experience in primary care is as follows:

1. Patient death from covid before vaccines were available - typical high risk person in his 70s with DM, CAD, HTN, CKD

1. Friend who died in his 40s from embolic strokes starting 7d after second Pfizer vaccine (no prior health issues)

1. Friend with retinal vein occlusion after vaccination (no prior health issues)

1. Friend in his 70s that died of MI 7d after second Pfizer (prior CAD hx, certainly could be coincidental...)

1. Colleague with transverse myelitis resulting in incomplete paraplegia that developed immediately after second Pfizer vaccine

I did just watch the video in the next gato post which is completely consistent with my experiences as well as the ER numbers previously posted showing the stunning increase in CV and neuro complaints in Germany since the advent of vaccination.

I feel like I live in a parallel universe of medicine where "first do no harm" has been replaced with "injury and death of healthy young and middle aged people is an acceptable outcome from an intervention that will not benefit them".

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