I can’t even laugh because I believe the picture on the right is what’s actually coming. And soon. People are starting to wake up but we’re fighting formidable opposing forces and two years of momentum.
History is written by the winners. They've lost many times. That they came back via Scandanavia & Brittany is not only reversible but the only way that it's going to play out. This time though a genuine pox on both their houses.
Who, Nazis? The people you are referring to did not come back they were always there. Read Revilo Oliver and how they operated during and after the war. Nazis lost and have stayed lost.
I have a couple of good friends in France right now. Not good. I'd been wanting to go live there for a month or two again just for fun, but not now, no way, that's for sure.
it's hard to tell, really, what's what where. i am guilty of generalizing, i suppose. perhaps more so those who are survivors of abuse or those who carry intergenerational trauma understand this more, regardless of gender....either way, i am to the point of laughing out loud when the panic button is pushed once again with yet a new variant. it seems this is never going to end! someone's making too much money to let it go easily....
Australians who test positive for C19 or have had contact with someone who tested positive are quarantined in camps. I used to think of Australians as tough, independent people but to allow this to happen has changed my mind. I think of Americans as tough, independent people...
Actual, from what I've read, Australians don't have to test positive to be incarcerated. It's people who have had "close contact" with people who test positive. So positive person plus everyone who lives with them, regardless of status, & anyone else they deem had "close contact."
Sorry, but that is what a quarantine is. The only way to stop a viral disease such as Covid is to isolate the sick, quarantine those who had contact with them and let everyone else go about their normal lives. Quarantining is a not the real issue here. They real issue is that Covid doses not warrant mass quarantines. Doubtful it warrants any quarantines.
Because that's worked so well to date? You can't stop an easily spread aerosolized respiratory virus by quarantining everybody, let alone with lockdowns .
Btw, I have no memory of forced measles quarantine camps. When I had measles, I stayed home in bed til better. My immune mother stayed home. My immune father & sisters went to work & school. My close contact classmates went to school unless/u til sick.
And 50 years later I didn't need a measles vax to work in hospital because my antibody titers were still high.
Yes, for Ebola and others it does. However, quarantines are not necessary for most diseases and not effective once the virus has entered a community. They can be effective in keeping a disease out but not at stopping it once it enters a community.
My point is, I think focusing on the details of quarantining people is not hitting the bullseye. The focus should be, IMHO, that these quarantines or unnecessary. To me, it sounds similar to the “antivaxxer” label we have been saddled with. Most who are against this vaccine are not against vaccines in general, but we have multiple reasons to be against THIS vaccine. I am not against quarantines for diseases that require them and situations that call for them. Covid, however, is not one of them and it is too late even if it was.
Quarantines work somewhat for droplet spread viruses. They do not work for aerosolized.
And never in history have we incarcerated the healthy.
Covid was never a disease that could be controlled. The 11/19 taped live c-span vid of Fauci & co discussing the need for a flu or corona pandemic emergency to use emergency approval avoid 8-10 years of long term safety trials for mrna vaxes proves exactly what was behind all their "recommendations" & fear mongering.
I was never anti-vax before. I will never allow or accept any injection from any of them again.
Sure we have. Ships with certain diseases aboard were required to anchor at designation anchorages and fly the yellow quarantine flag. That did not mean that every single soul aboard was sick, but that ships being confined spaces heathy persons were quarantined along with the sick as they were likely exposed to the disease. Ellis island was a quarantine facility. All arriving 3rd class passengers were automatically quarantined on the island. Those who displayed symptoms of disease were sent back to their home countries.
While I love the movie “Titanic” as it showcased the ship before she sank, there was no way the two main characters could have met. By US immigration law, ships were constructed in such a way to physically isolate 3rd class passengers AND the crew that served them from the rest of the ship. Once one boarded the 3rd class section there was no access to any other part of the ship for passengers nor crew. When ships arrived in the US, 3rd class passengers went into quarantine. Quarantines are the restriction of the healthy. Isolation is the restriction and treatment of the sick.
However, this disease does not call for a quarantine. I am not anti vax but am being pushed in that direction. The medical community has done much to earn the scorn of the general public. Never one to just blindly trust doctors, at this point though it is hard to trust them on anything.
There was a possibility to control covid by completely shutting borders except for returning citizens and enforcing an appropriate quarantine on those who returned. But that chance was denied by China first trying to keep it secret, then lying and saying it was not transmitted person to person and allowing international travel while prohibiting domestic travel. Once the disease got in, you are right, there was not and is not any way to control it.
I am not sure from reading your comment if you are refering to the historial events but the yellow q flag doesn't mean disease anymore. It just means that you have arrived in a new country and haven't gone through customs yet.
FYI: I have worked as a deckie on a superyacht so I do have experience.
Yes, I was referring to historical instances before radio when signal flags and lanterns where the only way to communicate with the shore. Well, I guess a hailer too but you’d have to be a lot closer than quarantine would allow.
The diamond princess was quarantined but pierside.
BTW, is a quarantine flag even used these days. I have some knowledge of how things were in the sail era but next to none now. Well, outside the engine room that is.
There isn't really a quarantine flag anymore. The all yellow q flag (i.e. the old quarantine flag) means the opposite that my ship is healthy and please let me in.
Tsk Tsk Tsk. Did you not get the memo? They have changed the definition of “vaccine”. So these “vaccines” ARE vaccines…under the new definition.
About a year ago I ran across and old article pin the first patient upon which gene therapy was tried. He died. As a result, anything related to or associated with the term “gene therapy” sent people runny away screaming. But the mad scientists do not care about their test subjects so they have come up with a new method to market their madness.
We have had 5 waves of Covid and 4 light lockdowns. Th government here has said point blank that they would like to make it illegal to no wear a mask and all the other measure that The US and other countries have untaken despite lacking the legal authority to do so. So the Japanese government only issues Emergency Declarations under which all the countermeasure are recommended. You know the drill; masks, social distancing, all gatherings cancelled, beaches closed, flowers cut so that people will not leave home to see them, business closures and reduced operating hours and occupancy when the recommendation to close is rescinded, all online lessons for secondary education. The list is long but madness drives it. We have had reservations for campsites cancelled due to covid.
The latest Emergency declaration was lifted on Nov. 1st yet everyone is still wearing masks everywhere. Not me, but damned near everyone else. Many businesses and public venues still have seating taped off to enforce social distancing. Classes are mostly still all online. Those that are not have the students spread out to enforce social distancing and enforce masking policy and have the windows all opened. How in the hell they expect students to learn a foreign language when they can not see the teachers face, hear the correct pronunciation nor practice with classmates is beyond me. I refuse to wear a mask or face shield so the school is must displeased that they have to set up the classroom for remote learning once a week. We fought over their demand that I wear a mask in my own home for online classes. Doubt they’ll be asking me back next school year.
Just for Ss and Gs, I’ll hunt up a medical school’s Covid restrictions for their employees and students. Damned terrifying that such nonsense comes from a medical school. Will post that as soon as I track it down. Have it saved somewhere.
Ok, well, that is absolute horse turds! I teach two days per week at a university in BC, and although I did the blahdecovidblah at the outset (because ‘required’ to do so), I have not said anything to them since. Instead, I encourage them to question ‘why?’ Is that not the point of education? Especially at the university level? To engage thought and encourage critical thinking?
Found it! This was originally in Japanese and has been edited a bit after being machine translated, so it is a bit rough. The greatest impact is the regulations for Daily life, meaning away from work and at home.
Head of Hospital,
Chairman of The Committee on Measures against Infection Prevention
New Lifestyle Standards for Faculty and Staff,
Xxxxxxxxx Hospital, xxxxxxxx University School of Medicine
(At-work)
1. Wearing a mask (nonwoven fabric) (prevention of droplet infection)
( A ) Faculty and staff are required to wear masks in indoor common places such as on-site classrooms, corridors, toilets, and hospitals. Always wear a mask other than when eating, drinking, blowing your nose, brushing your teeth, or smoking. Cover both the mouth and nose.
Grounds: Medical school students are required to wear masks when they enter the main building (at the student's own expense). Patients are asked to wear masks in the hospital (patients are preparing themselves).
( B ) Do not touch the surface of the mask. If it is to be touched, hand hygiene must be performed before and after.
( C ) Use a different mask for commuting and another for work.
2. Prevention of contact infection
( A ) Avoid contact with others other than medical care and medical examinations.
( B ) Do not touch your eyes or mouth with your hands. When touching cannot be avoided, carry out proper hand hygiene is made.
3. About hand hygiene
( A ) Hand hygiene is carried out with alcohol, such as quick-drying hand sanitizers in principle (wash hands with soap when there are reactions to alcohol or when dirt is visible). When treating patients in the hospital, carry hand sanitizer with you at all times.
( B ) WHO guidelines for hand hygiene timing (1) before touching the patient (2) before clean / sterile work (3) when there is a possibility of exposure to body fluids (4) after touching the patient (5) after touching any items around the patient.
Hand hygiene should also be carried out before breaks, before and after meals, before and after using the toilet, when entering the hospital from the medical office and when entering the hospital, before and after touching common objects (keyboard, mouse, touch panel, etc.).
4. About meals
( A ) Meals are to be consumed alone. Do not eat or drink in groups of two or more people (defined here as 会食).
( B ) Do not have conversations during meals.
( C ) Ensure at least 1 m of distance between people and try to avoid sitting face to face as much as possible.
( D ) Do not get or give people meals.
( E ) Don't use tableware.
( F ) Hydration is carried out in the staff room, etc., and not in the patient areas such as the corridors.
5. About meetings
( A ) Encourage web conferencing.
( B ) When holding a meeting, keep the distance between people.
( C ) Improve ventilation and provide sufficient ventilation.
( D ) The meeting should be held in a short time.
6. About the break
( A ) During breaks, the room should be ventilated (about once every 30 minutes). ( B ) Conversations should not be carried out without being masked.
( C ) Do not have long conversations.
( D ) Perform hand hygiene before taking a break.
( E ) Select an individual responsible for implementing staff room rules to ensure they are carried out before and after use.
7. Conversations on the university and in the hospital
( A ) Do not talk in narrow passages or corridors.
( B ) Do not have loud conversations.
( C ) Don't talk while walking.
8. About conferences
( A ) Do not keep the station dense.
( B ) Improve colds and provide sufficient ventilation.
( C ) The implementation time is short.
New Lifestyle Standards for Faculty and Staff, xxxxxxxxx Hospital, xxxxxxxxxxx University School of Medicine
(Daily Life)
1. About physical condition management
( A ) When there is poor physical condition such as fever, cold symptom, taste disorder, etc., do not commute, and confirm the correspondence to the affiliation. If the cause of fever is unknown, you will be staying at home until 4 days after fever according to the rules of University Headquarters.
( B ) The temperature is performed before going to work, and it records it.
( C ) If there are symptoms such as fever, cold symptom, taste disorder, etc. in the family, and PCR test needs to be carried out and the member must wait for the result and the correspondence is confirmed before the faculty/staff member can return to work.
2. Commuting and transportation use
( A ) When using public transportation, wear a mask and ensure proper social distancing protocols.
( B ) Refrain from conversations on public transportation such as buses and trains as much as possible.
( C ) Overseas travel must comply with University regulations.
3. About meals
( A ) Do not eat or drink (defined here as a 会食) in groups of two or more people other than with your family members.
( B ) Do not have conversations while eating out.
( C ) Do not talk as much as possible when eating at home.
4. Lifestyle
( A ) Avoid snuggling. Maintain social distance.
( B ) Don't have long conversations with others. (wear a mask)
( C ) Hand hygiene should be performed before and after meals, before work, and after returning home after touching items touched by others.
( D ) Wear a mask in the family depending on the situation.
( E ) Avoid situations where more than one person exercises indoors.
5. Ceremonial occasions
( A ) Check the prevalent situation in your area of residence or place of attendance, and consider participating remotely if moving or staying is a risk.
6. Participation in travel and events
( A ) When traveling, check the trendy situation of the residential area and the planned travel destination, and stop traveling if travel or stay is a risk. Don't have meals with others at the destination.
( B ) Participation in large-scale events such as sports watching confirms the epidemic situation in the residential area and the place of scheduled attendance, and if movement or participation becomes a risk, participation is postponed. Avoid having meals in the presence of others when participating.
7. Returning home
( A ) The minimum necessary for returning home is to be made.
( B ) Do not have meals with others when returning home.
wow...just...wow. that is truly insane! extremely dehumanizing as well. 'avoid snuggling' in your personal life? are they serious? 'do not have meals with others when returning home?' excuse the expression, but holy fuck! who thinks this shit up? i am surprised that they even let you go outside without being covered from head to toe in bubble wrap. how exactly did human beings survive this long?
If they are this panicked, then how can we hope that those who rely on them for medical information to not be panicked? How do we hope to get the truth out among such people?
Now, my household family does not even think of following these measures. We participated in a 12 k hike yesterday, though my wife and kids and all other participants I saw did wear masks, I did not even put mine on at all. But I can not share any of this with anyone connected with work and am a bit concerned about my face showing up on TV unmasked. New Years is the big event over here. last New Years we gathered at the in laws as in years past, EXCEPT, masks were required until meal time. One of my brother’s-in Law and his wife did not attend out of fear of Covid. Same when my parents in law come over for my kid’s birthday. They wore their masks until we all sat down to eat. There is zero indication that this madness will ever end.
No need to excuse any expressions, I say the same and worse on an almost daily basis.
Yep, but Japan is not alone in this regard. Asking “why” gets you in trouble on campus in the US and kicked of social media. I could not find the one schools restrictions, not where I though it was. Stopped by my in box while shifting to another possible location. Wait till you read it.
Can you provide a source consistent with what you're saying? I'm not challenging you or jumping ugly, I'm just wondering whether you can provide a link to debunk the alleged sensationalizing.
I did, and I posted the link from one of them. But I'm wondering what are *your* sources of information? I mean, I live in Puerto Rico, but I certainly don't know everything that's going on here merely because I live here.
That's not what my sister's friend, a runner, said when she got back from a trip to Australia for an ultra-marathon several months ago. She was there for several weeks, including two weeks of quarantine upon her arrival. (And it was strict quarantine; she was locked into her hotel room and not allowed to leave it.) She and her teammates were transported to and from the airport and to and from the marathon start and finish points by ARMY SOLDIERS.
That is exactly what our quarantines are like for the whole country - for the past 18 months or so. So the NT example is similar.
We have maniacal State Premiers (government heads of the regions) - it’s like they are dosed up with something to be so hitleresque.
Lockdowns and job loss mandates are rife - we are definitely under attack from the inside.
It’s VERY hard for many.
BUT none of us are being rounded up and forcefully jabbed etc etc that these sensationalism reports are saying. (And ‘the resistance’ is growing week by week.)
NO!!!!! This is absolutely not true - this is an immensely small incident in a remote area (due to quarantine - whether it's draconian/heavy handed or not is another question, but I don't have enough details, so can't comment).
I realise this disinformation is making the rounds - it sure doesn't help any of us (except those who get off on super-drama).
Australians certainly aren't the 'tough, independent' types of old - but you bet we are revolting in millions in all sorts of ways. The absolutely immoral, draconian 'no jab, no job' policy has been rolling out over the months and now 'they' have really pissed us off - so the protester numbers (both unvaxxed and vaxxed) are up in arms (signs and banners at this point, but we'd find enough guns if it came to it). Even quite a few of 'the sheep' are growing a little bit of a brain and realising this isn't what they were told.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT WORLD - "we'll get these bastards" (<- a typical rough Aussie 'saying')
So, you are saying IT IS TRUE that Australians are being interned in quarantine camps for COVID and contact, just not everywhere in Australia. Well, I truly hope you do "get these bastards".
There is one small old mining area turned quarantine camp (in a remote state of Aust) - established when covid started/months ago for quarantine - which is being used for a TINY number of Indigenous people who are testing positive. And I don't believe the vast majority (a few dozen people over the months) have complained at all. Just all of a sudden it's blown up to be something ridiculous.
(And I'm totally anti-convid so I'm not sticking up for draconian treatment - I'm sticking up for TRUTH.)
"Two Northern Territory communities in Australia, Binjari and Rockhole, have imposed strict lockdowns after nine new positive coronavirus cases were registered. The military has been called in to bring positive cases and close contacts to a quarantine center.
On Sunday, Chief Minister of the Northern Territory Michael Gunner said that a 78-year-old woman was treated at the Royal Darwin Hospital. The area’s remaining eight cases and 38 close contacts have been transferred to the Howard Springs quarantine center.
Currently, there are two mandatory supervised quarantine facilities in the Northern Territory. The Centre for National Resilience in Howard Springs, Darwin, and Alice Springs Quarantine Facility, Alice Springs."
So it's limited, yes. But for how long? Is this just a trial balloon? If they'll do this for such scant numbers that don't affect the greater AU population, would they not do it for the population centers?
Jules, in mid-February 2019 I saw a viral twitter vid of 2 Aussie women fighting over toilet paper in a supermarket with clearly empty shelves.
Here in the US our shelves were full and it was only 2 women in 1 store. Still, I bought an extra large package with my weekly run. 2 weeks later, our shelves were stripped bare.
What's "regrettably" happening to a "tiny" group of people has a way of spreading. They seem to be trying things out on the more defenseless, remote people & areas 1st, so I watch & prepare.
I've also seen video of some kind of police beating the crap out if Australians for straying outside of their permitted zones, or not properly wearing a mask, etc. Sure, the guy on the ground was just 1 person, but the rifle butt pounded repeatedly into his torso was more than a little overkill. We speculated then over whether they had brought in military/police from another country.
Last year it came out that Trudeau hosted Chinese military in Canada to train to fight in cold weather. At the time I feared to train for US invasion. Based on what I've seen on video in other countries, I'm wondering now if it is to subjugate Canadian citizens.
I identified what I posted as rumour. You have confirmed it is true. For the last 2 years, rumours have had an uncanny way of coming true.
I wish we could get at our American psychopaths. Also the Brit's (pfizer), Austrian (or German?) Klaus Schwab, and all his "proteges" (eg Jacinda Adern, Macron, & that gawdawful Leana Wen, to name 3), & China's Xi, And our famous immigrant from Hungary, Soros.
In the meantime, preparing for vax mandates I am scheduled for NRA gun training in January. 68 years old & ready to learn a new skill & go down fighting. Better that than let the globalists kill me a piece at a time.
Let's hope the theories aren't true. Then again, we see what Austria and Germany are doing, and we know what the psychopaths here in America have been doing since Day One. So I hope not all of you surrendered your firearms to the authorities.
the minister (or whatever his title) said so himself that they are transporting the 'vermin' (my word) to quarantine camps. It always starts small then expands (and expands) later after the hypnotized accept the first few cases.
South Koreans testing positive are also picked up by police to be quarantined . You just don’t hear about it but it’s happening and also the government is contact tracing everyone who has exposed to that person via their cell phone .
When you willingly give up your guns to the government (y'know, the OTHER guys with guns) for the illusion of safety - and do so with such historical myopia that you cannot even see your fingertips - well, this is what happens.
Rumor from Northern Territory, police are forcibly injecting Aborigine people. Just saw video of elder begging her people to contact her, to get video & let her know what is happening. She mentions a fee specific cities or locations.
No "the Aboriginal people" are not. Maybe an individual said something - while another is saying she's really happy with her quarters. Sensationalism hurts us all - whichever 'side' it's on.
David Cole makes a formal plea for international help. “They are committing Genocide, they are sending military in, they are using foreign police officers.”
The girl on the left is Victoria Climbié, who was tortured and murdered by her great aunt, and her great-aunt’s boyfriend. I would suggest not using this picture to make a joke, as it is in poor taste.
Yes, I remember that case from the mid-90s. I lived in north London in the same borough whose useless social workers left Victoria to die at the hands of her aunt and the aunt's boyfriend. A real tragedy and I agree - in extremely poor taste.
I still personally don't know anyone who's died in the past 20 months. Not from covid. And not from the jab. Still waiting for the shoe to drop. I know of at least one co-worker who's gonna vax her 10-year-old son. *shudder* I hope he's not the first one in my circle.
Why try to solve big problems when you can solve insignificant non problems instead. Though I suppose I'll take this kind of training over training on how to take away more of our freedoms.
I can’t even laugh because I believe the picture on the right is what’s actually coming. And soon. People are starting to wake up but we’re fighting formidable opposing forces and two years of momentum.
if they were formidable they'd have snuffed us out
that they haven't suggests to me that we can still win, easily
wake tf up people
We don't yet know how many who've been jabbed are walking time bombs.
Don't underestimate them. They are extremely dangerous and have not been beat in some thousands of years. The only thing keeping us alive is God.
if the situation was hopeless, the propaganda would not be necessary.
I didn't say it was hopeless.
History is written by the winners. They've lost many times. That they came back via Scandanavia & Brittany is not only reversible but the only way that it's going to play out. This time though a genuine pox on both their houses.
Who, Nazis? The people you are referring to did not come back they were always there. Read Revilo Oliver and how they operated during and after the war. Nazis lost and have stayed lost.
Romans.
Soz, just realized where that term comes from...
All we have to do is exhale...unmasked...in their general direction and their minds will short circuit.
Throw in a cough or sneeze & watch their heads explode 😂
So tempting to try this in a crowded store sometime soon...
I'll bring the pepper. ;)
too funny, you all!!
This picture drove into my mind a couple of days ago too. Luckily I live in a fairly safe place, I am glad I am not anywhere in Europe now.
I have a couple of good friends in France right now. Not good. I'd been wanting to go live there for a month or two again just for fun, but not now, no way, that's for sure.
We haven't had a witchcraft hysteria for awhile now.....
in some ways...i think women understand this more so than do men........
Maybe it's just where I live, but most of the paranoid people I see are women, not men.
it's hard to tell, really, what's what where. i am guilty of generalizing, i suppose. perhaps more so those who are survivors of abuse or those who carry intergenerational trauma understand this more, regardless of gender....either way, i am to the point of laughing out loud when the panic button is pushed once again with yet a new variant. it seems this is never going to end! someone's making too much money to let it go easily....
Thats why we have a 2nd Amendment.
exactly
Australians who test positive for C19 or have had contact with someone who tested positive are quarantined in camps. I used to think of Australians as tough, independent people but to allow this to happen has changed my mind. I think of Americans as tough, independent people...
Actual, from what I've read, Australians don't have to test positive to be incarcerated. It's people who have had "close contact" with people who test positive. So positive person plus everyone who lives with them, regardless of status, & anyone else they deem had "close contact."
Next, if you saw someone on TV who tested positive...
Right, I forgot that part. Thanks.
Sorry, but that is what a quarantine is. The only way to stop a viral disease such as Covid is to isolate the sick, quarantine those who had contact with them and let everyone else go about their normal lives. Quarantining is a not the real issue here. They real issue is that Covid doses not warrant mass quarantines. Doubtful it warrants any quarantines.
Because that's worked so well to date? You can't stop an easily spread aerosolized respiratory virus by quarantining everybody, let alone with lockdowns .
Btw, I have no memory of forced measles quarantine camps. When I had measles, I stayed home in bed til better. My immune mother stayed home. My immune father & sisters went to work & school. My close contact classmates went to school unless/u til sick.
And 50 years later I didn't need a measles vax to work in hospital because my antibody titers were still high.
Yes, for Ebola and others it does. However, quarantines are not necessary for most diseases and not effective once the virus has entered a community. They can be effective in keeping a disease out but not at stopping it once it enters a community.
My point is, I think focusing on the details of quarantining people is not hitting the bullseye. The focus should be, IMHO, that these quarantines or unnecessary. To me, it sounds similar to the “antivaxxer” label we have been saddled with. Most who are against this vaccine are not against vaccines in general, but we have multiple reasons to be against THIS vaccine. I am not against quarantines for diseases that require them and situations that call for them. Covid, however, is not one of them and it is too late even if it was.
Quarantines work somewhat for droplet spread viruses. They do not work for aerosolized.
And never in history have we incarcerated the healthy.
Covid was never a disease that could be controlled. The 11/19 taped live c-span vid of Fauci & co discussing the need for a flu or corona pandemic emergency to use emergency approval avoid 8-10 years of long term safety trials for mrna vaxes proves exactly what was behind all their "recommendations" & fear mongering.
I was never anti-vax before. I will never allow or accept any injection from any of them again.
Sure we have. Ships with certain diseases aboard were required to anchor at designation anchorages and fly the yellow quarantine flag. That did not mean that every single soul aboard was sick, but that ships being confined spaces heathy persons were quarantined along with the sick as they were likely exposed to the disease. Ellis island was a quarantine facility. All arriving 3rd class passengers were automatically quarantined on the island. Those who displayed symptoms of disease were sent back to their home countries.
While I love the movie “Titanic” as it showcased the ship before she sank, there was no way the two main characters could have met. By US immigration law, ships were constructed in such a way to physically isolate 3rd class passengers AND the crew that served them from the rest of the ship. Once one boarded the 3rd class section there was no access to any other part of the ship for passengers nor crew. When ships arrived in the US, 3rd class passengers went into quarantine. Quarantines are the restriction of the healthy. Isolation is the restriction and treatment of the sick.
However, this disease does not call for a quarantine. I am not anti vax but am being pushed in that direction. The medical community has done much to earn the scorn of the general public. Never one to just blindly trust doctors, at this point though it is hard to trust them on anything.
There was a possibility to control covid by completely shutting borders except for returning citizens and enforcing an appropriate quarantine on those who returned. But that chance was denied by China first trying to keep it secret, then lying and saying it was not transmitted person to person and allowing international travel while prohibiting domestic travel. Once the disease got in, you are right, there was not and is not any way to control it.
I am not sure from reading your comment if you are refering to the historial events but the yellow q flag doesn't mean disease anymore. It just means that you have arrived in a new country and haven't gone through customs yet.
FYI: I have worked as a deckie on a superyacht so I do have experience.
Yes, I was referring to historical instances before radio when signal flags and lanterns where the only way to communicate with the shore. Well, I guess a hailer too but you’d have to be a lot closer than quarantine would allow.
The diamond princess was quarantined but pierside.
BTW, is a quarantine flag even used these days. I have some knowledge of how things were in the sail era but next to none now. Well, outside the engine room that is.
There isn't really a quarantine flag anymore. The all yellow q flag (i.e. the old quarantine flag) means the opposite that my ship is healthy and please let me in.
There are international signal flags (https://www.boatsafe.com/international-code-signaling-flags/) but I have only see A, B and Q in use. I would use radio communications for most of the situations instead.
Note: These "vaccines" are not vaccines. They are "gene therapy," as Pfizer's own FDA application referred to them.
Tsk Tsk Tsk. Did you not get the memo? They have changed the definition of “vaccine”. So these “vaccines” ARE vaccines…under the new definition.
About a year ago I ran across and old article pin the first patient upon which gene therapy was tried. He died. As a result, anything related to or associated with the term “gene therapy” sent people runny away screaming. But the mad scientists do not care about their test subjects so they have come up with a new method to market their madness.
exactly, so what's it all for? Control!!!
That’s what all this is about. There is absolutely no justification for any of this.
hm. true enough. but what is going on in japan? i'm curious.
We have had 5 waves of Covid and 4 light lockdowns. Th government here has said point blank that they would like to make it illegal to no wear a mask and all the other measure that The US and other countries have untaken despite lacking the legal authority to do so. So the Japanese government only issues Emergency Declarations under which all the countermeasure are recommended. You know the drill; masks, social distancing, all gatherings cancelled, beaches closed, flowers cut so that people will not leave home to see them, business closures and reduced operating hours and occupancy when the recommendation to close is rescinded, all online lessons for secondary education. The list is long but madness drives it. We have had reservations for campsites cancelled due to covid.
The latest Emergency declaration was lifted on Nov. 1st yet everyone is still wearing masks everywhere. Not me, but damned near everyone else. Many businesses and public venues still have seating taped off to enforce social distancing. Classes are mostly still all online. Those that are not have the students spread out to enforce social distancing and enforce masking policy and have the windows all opened. How in the hell they expect students to learn a foreign language when they can not see the teachers face, hear the correct pronunciation nor practice with classmates is beyond me. I refuse to wear a mask or face shield so the school is must displeased that they have to set up the classroom for remote learning once a week. We fought over their demand that I wear a mask in my own home for online classes. Doubt they’ll be asking me back next school year.
Just for Ss and Gs, I’ll hunt up a medical school’s Covid restrictions for their employees and students. Damned terrifying that such nonsense comes from a medical school. Will post that as soon as I track it down. Have it saved somewhere.
Ok, well, that is absolute horse turds! I teach two days per week at a university in BC, and although I did the blahdecovidblah at the outset (because ‘required’ to do so), I have not said anything to them since. Instead, I encourage them to question ‘why?’ Is that not the point of education? Especially at the university level? To engage thought and encourage critical thinking?
Found it! This was originally in Japanese and has been edited a bit after being machine translated, so it is a bit rough. The greatest impact is the regulations for Daily life, meaning away from work and at home.
Head of Hospital,
Chairman of The Committee on Measures against Infection Prevention
New Lifestyle Standards for Faculty and Staff,
Xxxxxxxxx Hospital, xxxxxxxx University School of Medicine
(At-work)
1. Wearing a mask (nonwoven fabric) (prevention of droplet infection)
( A ) Faculty and staff are required to wear masks in indoor common places such as on-site classrooms, corridors, toilets, and hospitals. Always wear a mask other than when eating, drinking, blowing your nose, brushing your teeth, or smoking. Cover both the mouth and nose.
Grounds: Medical school students are required to wear masks when they enter the main building (at the student's own expense). Patients are asked to wear masks in the hospital (patients are preparing themselves).
( B ) Do not touch the surface of the mask. If it is to be touched, hand hygiene must be performed before and after.
( C ) Use a different mask for commuting and another for work.
2. Prevention of contact infection
( A ) Avoid contact with others other than medical care and medical examinations.
( B ) Do not touch your eyes or mouth with your hands. When touching cannot be avoided, carry out proper hand hygiene is made.
3. About hand hygiene
( A ) Hand hygiene is carried out with alcohol, such as quick-drying hand sanitizers in principle (wash hands with soap when there are reactions to alcohol or when dirt is visible). When treating patients in the hospital, carry hand sanitizer with you at all times.
( B ) WHO guidelines for hand hygiene timing (1) before touching the patient (2) before clean / sterile work (3) when there is a possibility of exposure to body fluids (4) after touching the patient (5) after touching any items around the patient.
Hand hygiene should also be carried out before breaks, before and after meals, before and after using the toilet, when entering the hospital from the medical office and when entering the hospital, before and after touching common objects (keyboard, mouse, touch panel, etc.).
4. About meals
( A ) Meals are to be consumed alone. Do not eat or drink in groups of two or more people (defined here as 会食).
( B ) Do not have conversations during meals.
( C ) Ensure at least 1 m of distance between people and try to avoid sitting face to face as much as possible.
( D ) Do not get or give people meals.
( E ) Don't use tableware.
( F ) Hydration is carried out in the staff room, etc., and not in the patient areas such as the corridors.
5. About meetings
( A ) Encourage web conferencing.
( B ) When holding a meeting, keep the distance between people.
( C ) Improve ventilation and provide sufficient ventilation.
( D ) The meeting should be held in a short time.
6. About the break
( A ) During breaks, the room should be ventilated (about once every 30 minutes). ( B ) Conversations should not be carried out without being masked.
( C ) Do not have long conversations.
( D ) Perform hand hygiene before taking a break.
( E ) Select an individual responsible for implementing staff room rules to ensure they are carried out before and after use.
7. Conversations on the university and in the hospital
( A ) Do not talk in narrow passages or corridors.
( B ) Do not have loud conversations.
( C ) Don't talk while walking.
8. About conferences
( A ) Do not keep the station dense.
( B ) Improve colds and provide sufficient ventilation.
( C ) The implementation time is short.
New Lifestyle Standards for Faculty and Staff, xxxxxxxxx Hospital, xxxxxxxxxxx University School of Medicine
(Daily Life)
1. About physical condition management
( A ) When there is poor physical condition such as fever, cold symptom, taste disorder, etc., do not commute, and confirm the correspondence to the affiliation. If the cause of fever is unknown, you will be staying at home until 4 days after fever according to the rules of University Headquarters.
( B ) The temperature is performed before going to work, and it records it.
( C ) If there are symptoms such as fever, cold symptom, taste disorder, etc. in the family, and PCR test needs to be carried out and the member must wait for the result and the correspondence is confirmed before the faculty/staff member can return to work.
2. Commuting and transportation use
( A ) When using public transportation, wear a mask and ensure proper social distancing protocols.
( B ) Refrain from conversations on public transportation such as buses and trains as much as possible.
( C ) Overseas travel must comply with University regulations.
3. About meals
( A ) Do not eat or drink (defined here as a 会食) in groups of two or more people other than with your family members.
( B ) Do not have conversations while eating out.
( C ) Do not talk as much as possible when eating at home.
4. Lifestyle
( A ) Avoid snuggling. Maintain social distance.
( B ) Don't have long conversations with others. (wear a mask)
( C ) Hand hygiene should be performed before and after meals, before work, and after returning home after touching items touched by others.
( D ) Wear a mask in the family depending on the situation.
( E ) Avoid situations where more than one person exercises indoors.
5. Ceremonial occasions
( A ) Check the prevalent situation in your area of residence or place of attendance, and consider participating remotely if moving or staying is a risk.
6. Participation in travel and events
( A ) When traveling, check the trendy situation of the residential area and the planned travel destination, and stop traveling if travel or stay is a risk. Don't have meals with others at the destination.
( B ) Participation in large-scale events such as sports watching confirms the epidemic situation in the residential area and the place of scheduled attendance, and if movement or participation becomes a risk, participation is postponed. Avoid having meals in the presence of others when participating.
7. Returning home
( A ) The minimum necessary for returning home is to be made.
( B ) Do not have meals with others when returning home.
wow...just...wow. that is truly insane! extremely dehumanizing as well. 'avoid snuggling' in your personal life? are they serious? 'do not have meals with others when returning home?' excuse the expression, but holy fuck! who thinks this shit up? i am surprised that they even let you go outside without being covered from head to toe in bubble wrap. how exactly did human beings survive this long?
AND, this is from a medical school hospital.
If they are this panicked, then how can we hope that those who rely on them for medical information to not be panicked? How do we hope to get the truth out among such people?
Now, my household family does not even think of following these measures. We participated in a 12 k hike yesterday, though my wife and kids and all other participants I saw did wear masks, I did not even put mine on at all. But I can not share any of this with anyone connected with work and am a bit concerned about my face showing up on TV unmasked. New Years is the big event over here. last New Years we gathered at the in laws as in years past, EXCEPT, masks were required until meal time. One of my brother’s-in Law and his wife did not attend out of fear of Covid. Same when my parents in law come over for my kid’s birthday. They wore their masks until we all sat down to eat. There is zero indication that this madness will ever end.
No need to excuse any expressions, I say the same and worse on an almost daily basis.
Yep, but Japan is not alone in this regard. Asking “why” gets you in trouble on campus in the US and kicked of social media. I could not find the one schools restrictions, not where I though it was. Stopped by my in box while shifting to another possible location. Wait till you read it.
PLEASE STOP. Your source is sensationalising something very small. Us Australians are NOT under some sort of horrific military anything.
Can you provide a source consistent with what you're saying? I'm not challenging you or jumping ugly, I'm just wondering whether you can provide a link to debunk the alleged sensationalizing.
I live here. I know. Check out any other information about Australia than the sensationalised one being referenced.
I did, and I posted the link from one of them. But I'm wondering what are *your* sources of information? I mean, I live in Puerto Rico, but I certainly don't know everything that's going on here merely because I live here.
That's not what my sister's friend, a runner, said when she got back from a trip to Australia for an ultra-marathon several months ago. She was there for several weeks, including two weeks of quarantine upon her arrival. (And it was strict quarantine; she was locked into her hotel room and not allowed to leave it.) She and her teammates were transported to and from the airport and to and from the marathon start and finish points by ARMY SOLDIERS.
That is exactly what our quarantines are like for the whole country - for the past 18 months or so. So the NT example is similar.
We have maniacal State Premiers (government heads of the regions) - it’s like they are dosed up with something to be so hitleresque.
Lockdowns and job loss mandates are rife - we are definitely under attack from the inside.
It’s VERY hard for many.
BUT none of us are being rounded up and forcefully jabbed etc etc that these sensationalism reports are saying. (And ‘the resistance’ is growing week by week.)
NO!!!!! This is absolutely not true - this is an immensely small incident in a remote area (due to quarantine - whether it's draconian/heavy handed or not is another question, but I don't have enough details, so can't comment).
I realise this disinformation is making the rounds - it sure doesn't help any of us (except those who get off on super-drama).
Australians certainly aren't the 'tough, independent' types of old - but you bet we are revolting in millions in all sorts of ways. The absolutely immoral, draconian 'no jab, no job' policy has been rolling out over the months and now 'they' have really pissed us off - so the protester numbers (both unvaxxed and vaxxed) are up in arms (signs and banners at this point, but we'd find enough guns if it came to it). Even quite a few of 'the sheep' are growing a little bit of a brain and realising this isn't what they were told.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT WORLD - "we'll get these bastards" (<- a typical rough Aussie 'saying')
So, you are saying IT IS TRUE that Australians are being interned in quarantine camps for COVID and contact, just not everywhere in Australia. Well, I truly hope you do "get these bastards".
There is one small old mining area turned quarantine camp (in a remote state of Aust) - established when covid started/months ago for quarantine - which is being used for a TINY number of Indigenous people who are testing positive. And I don't believe the vast majority (a few dozen people over the months) have complained at all. Just all of a sudden it's blown up to be something ridiculous.
(And I'm totally anti-convid so I'm not sticking up for draconian treatment - I'm sticking up for TRUTH.)
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Martin Niemöller
Quarantined (imprisoned) for "testing positive" -- with a test that produces 97% false positives.
Thank you Jules. Conspiracy theories are only useful if they lead to the truth.
Here us another person making this claim...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1462740215571918849
Here's what I've found:
"Two Northern Territory communities in Australia, Binjari and Rockhole, have imposed strict lockdowns after nine new positive coronavirus cases were registered. The military has been called in to bring positive cases and close contacts to a quarantine center.
On Sunday, Chief Minister of the Northern Territory Michael Gunner said that a 78-year-old woman was treated at the Royal Darwin Hospital. The area’s remaining eight cases and 38 close contacts have been transferred to the Howard Springs quarantine center.
Currently, there are two mandatory supervised quarantine facilities in the Northern Territory. The Centre for National Resilience in Howard Springs, Darwin, and Alice Springs Quarantine Facility, Alice Springs."
So it's limited, yes. But for how long? Is this just a trial balloon? If they'll do this for such scant numbers that don't affect the greater AU population, would they not do it for the population centers?
https://bit.ly/3nOLVrt
This is a typical way of 'helping' the Indigenous people. Regrettably that's a whole other story other than convid.
Unless the worst conspiracy theories are true - 'they' won't be treating the rest of us like that. We aren't all cowering in the corner.
If the USA would do something about it's psychopaths this would all be over.
Jules, in mid-February 2019 I saw a viral twitter vid of 2 Aussie women fighting over toilet paper in a supermarket with clearly empty shelves.
Here in the US our shelves were full and it was only 2 women in 1 store. Still, I bought an extra large package with my weekly run. 2 weeks later, our shelves were stripped bare.
What's "regrettably" happening to a "tiny" group of people has a way of spreading. They seem to be trying things out on the more defenseless, remote people & areas 1st, so I watch & prepare.
I've also seen video of some kind of police beating the crap out if Australians for straying outside of their permitted zones, or not properly wearing a mask, etc. Sure, the guy on the ground was just 1 person, but the rifle butt pounded repeatedly into his torso was more than a little overkill. We speculated then over whether they had brought in military/police from another country.
Last year it came out that Trudeau hosted Chinese military in Canada to train to fight in cold weather. At the time I feared to train for US invasion. Based on what I've seen on video in other countries, I'm wondering now if it is to subjugate Canadian citizens.
I identified what I posted as rumour. You have confirmed it is true. For the last 2 years, rumours have had an uncanny way of coming true.
I wish we could get at our American psychopaths. Also the Brit's (pfizer), Austrian (or German?) Klaus Schwab, and all his "proteges" (eg Jacinda Adern, Macron, & that gawdawful Leana Wen, to name 3), & China's Xi, And our famous immigrant from Hungary, Soros.
In the meantime, preparing for vax mandates I am scheduled for NRA gun training in January. 68 years old & ready to learn a new skill & go down fighting. Better that than let the globalists kill me a piece at a time.
Odd indeed what you report about Chinese military training in Canada. China has freezing cold northern regions.
Exactly.
Let's hope the theories aren't true. Then again, we see what Austria and Germany are doing, and we know what the psychopaths here in America have been doing since Day One. So I hope not all of you surrendered your firearms to the authorities.
they will do it in the USA too...bet you a $1000 dollars (even more if I had it) haha
the minister (or whatever his title) said so himself that they are transporting the 'vermin' (my word) to quarantine camps. It always starts small then expands (and expands) later after the hypnotized accept the first few cases.
"Centre for National Resilience"? That definitely wins an Orwell Award for calling things the opposite of what they are.
I hope what you are saying is true. I wish you the best. I’m all for you. Stay strong!!!!
South Koreans testing positive are also picked up by police to be quarantined . You just don’t hear about it but it’s happening and also the government is contact tracing everyone who has exposed to that person via their cell phone .
When you willingly give up your guns to the government (y'know, the OTHER guys with guns) for the illusion of safety - and do so with such historical myopia that you cannot even see your fingertips - well, this is what happens.
Depends on the State, it seems.
...and that depends on the people.
putting people in 'camps' worries me tremendously
Rumor from Northern Territory, police are forcibly injecting Aborigine people. Just saw video of elder begging her people to contact her, to get video & let her know what is happening. She mentions a fee specific cities or locations.
Yes, the Aboriginal people are begging the international community for help: https://lockdownnews.com.au/2021/11/25/urgent-aboriginal-people-make-plea-for-international-help/
I don't know if it's just me, but that link for lockdownnews.com.au is not loading. Might the Australian authorities have shut the site down?
Hmmmm. This works for me: https://lockdownnews.com.au/2021/11/25/urgent-aboriginal-people-make-plea-for-international-help/
It works for me now. Not sure what the problem was on Wednesday.
Not just you. I just tried twice. My 1st thought is THEY've blocked access!
I'm blocked as well. I used my VPN and tried through multiple jurisdictions. (US, Canada, France)
USA, Brazil, Mexico, Netherlands. No luck.
Yeah, I've done it both with and without my VPN connected, and no luck either time.
Got in. Not sure how. Was actually trying to go someplace else...
No "the Aboriginal people" are not. Maybe an individual said something - while another is saying she's really happy with her quarters. Sensationalism hurts us all - whichever 'side' it's on.
So these people are lying, then? https://lockdownnews.com.au/2021/11/25/urgent-aboriginal-people-make-plea-for-international-help/
Ok, I just got in. No idea how! Here is a message from the little blue twit:
https://twitter.com/UK__Citizen/status/1463439160782561283
And here is a meesage from lockdown.com:
David Cole makes a formal plea for international help. “They are committing Genocide, they are sending military in, they are using foreign police officers.”
THEY ARE NOT. Please stop spreading ONE person's misinformation.
Yes, only "rumor" - more disinformation that hurts us all :/
Bin your phone and contact tracing and TV and life returns to normal.
So much better than "normal"! Kill your TV and the spell is broken.
The girl on the left is Victoria Climbié, who was tortured and murdered by her great aunt, and her great-aunt’s boyfriend. I would suggest not using this picture to make a joke, as it is in poor taste.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Victoria_Climbié
I believe it's the BBC you should be directing your comment to -- it's their post in the screenshot.
They are not using the image to make a joke.
I don't think this was meant to be a joke!
Yes, I remember that case from the mid-90s. I lived in north London in the same borough whose useless social workers left Victoria to die at the hands of her aunt and the aunt's boyfriend. A real tragedy and I agree - in extremely poor taste.
I still personally don't know anyone who's died in the past 20 months. Not from covid. And not from the jab. Still waiting for the shoe to drop. I know of at least one co-worker who's gonna vax her 10-year-old son. *shudder* I hope he's not the first one in my circle.
Why try to solve big problems when you can solve insignificant non problems instead. Though I suppose I'll take this kind of training over training on how to take away more of our freedoms.
And the Church is right there standing with Brandon