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Richard Ilnicki's avatar

"Give me four years to teach the children, and the seed I will have sown will never be uprooted." Vladimir Lenin

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SimulationCommander's avatar

If tomorrow the government decided that food was "too important" to be left to the free market, we'd be starving by September.

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el gato malo's avatar

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Fernanda G's avatar

I gave feedback for our school that CA children may have a chance to compete with other kids ( globally in terms of education), if the CA board of education is hit by a meteor and an earthquake at the same time.

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Even FDR was against unions in the public sector. Unions have a tendency to protect the bad actors at the expense of the very people they are supposed to be serving.

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David Van Dam's avatar

t seems that a large proportion of the US population does not know the name, Howard Zinn - the revisionist "historian" who has authored numerous textbooks that now form the basis for the teaching of history as advocated by the American Federation of Teachers and other teachers unions. Anyone unfamiliar with his works can find out more by performing a Google search for his works (example: https://libcom.org/files/A%20People%27s%20History%20of%20the%20Unite%20-%20Howard%20Zinn.pdf). This is the new history taught today and that supported by CRT advocates.

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Mike Cranny's avatar

Thanks, excellent take on the CRT problem. When caught out, the CRT proponents deny they are doing it, blame you for not understanding what CRT teaching really is, then claim it’s really not CRT, and they are simply teaching “real” history. The idea that conservatives should sue school districts to enforce anti-discrimination laws already on the books is total BS. It’s costly, it will take too long and will allow CRT to become permanently imbedded in the public school systems. Your comment about the teacher Unions doing more to damage and cheat disadvantaged students is is exactly right. CRT also allows Unions to dodge the actual requirement to impart the necessary skills to be successful in today’s world, i.e. math, reading, science and history free from wokeness.

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Ed's avatar

crt, sj, covid 17 are all tools for subversion. fortunately, the kids who think will read and talk to honest people, the kids who do not will be the usual output of unionized aka non performing education.....

when the battle is done hang both the lawyers and teachers.

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micah6vs8's avatar

Excellent post bc. Ty

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Lisa Eckersley's avatar

Do right-to-work laws have anything to do with this?

Excellent article. Thank you for clarifying the issues.

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Tim's avatar

No to vouchers.

Vouchers will likely lead to defacto takeover of private schools by the state. Government money always comes with strings. With vouchers will come demands for control of potentially every aspect of the product and how it's provided, including requiring or at least tolerating unions and union work rules, and including curriculum.

Vouchers would distort market pricing. Every private school will raise its prices to the amount of the voucher. Why would they charge less?

End compulsory free education. There's just no reason that education should be provided by the state.

https://mises.org/library/voucher-socialism

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el gato malo's avatar

while i understand this argument and also understand the issues with creeping socialism and doctrinaire monopolization through funding (akin to what has been done to universities) i just think this is not a possible outcome at this time. there is simply no political or societal support for such a plan.

this, like so many problems in politics, leaves us in a situation where the perfect may be the enemy of the excellent.

sure, it would be better to free schools from the public remit entirely, but there is simply no way to do it in one step and the current system is a disaster and could be made multiples better.

they key will be to develop a "voucher" program that is not really vouchers at all but rather cash grants.

so long as that money goes to people and those people can then spend it howsoever they like, government meddling will be kept out. as soon as the government can, for example, set standards on which schools are "voucher eligible" i 100% agree with you. they will subvert this system.

the goal must be to create such a system to be resistant to such. there can be no standards and the right to spend this money as one's own discretion must be sacrosanct. inevitably, this will give rise to anecdotes about some family that did something that others find ridiculous or offensive but that's the price of the program. pushing that back is the key fight.

starting from "so let's end public education" is, even if correct, simply one of those sort of edge lord positions that allows one to sit smug while claiming to know "the solution" and yet never solve anything while letting the existing system fester and get worse.

so, honest question: if your goal is to engage in a program that is possible, can be be implemented politically, will be accepted by the american people, and will do the most good for US children over the next decade, how do you outperform cash grant education accounts?

would you really try to push the "abolish public education" track?

because i think that if you did, you'd wind up accomplishing nothing and 10 years from now would simply be staking out same purported the moral and public choice theory high ground while having watched 10 more years of decline occur in the schools.

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Tim's avatar

I wholeheartedly agree with you that straight cash payments with no strings would be a huge advance. I completely disagree about political viability.

The left always wins, decade after decade, because they never open the bidding with half a loaf. They cultivate their extreme left wing instead of lecturing them to be reasonable. Most “moderate” Democrats endorsed the Green New Deal, a scheme to remake society from the ground up, vastly more extremist than privatizing schools. They fill the universities with Marxists and get behind ever radical new idea.

The right just gets dragged along, decade after decade. It’s been correctly said that each generation of conservatives exists to ratify the gains made by the prior generation of progressives. They’ve been falling for the left’s good-cop-bad cop act and letting them make gains year after year. “Okay we’ll give you your massive infrastructure bill, just please don’t go full commie.”

How viable is cash payments? I’m confident it has zero chance. Governments never distribute money without strings, much less willingly weaken their system of indoctrination and their power bases. Teachers unions are a top donor. Why would they slap them in the face?

So vouchers will have strings. As such, I’m not sure it’s a step in the right direction at all.

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Sophia's avatar

The disproportionate harm done to poorer students from school closures is a feature, not a glitch. What better way to foment even more division than to make poorer students suffer more? Crimes against humanity.

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Casey's avatar

Right on, hermano. I am put in mind of a recent move, in a Cali district if I recall correctly, to end all math enrichment programs for kids gifted in math because it would mean that kids gifted in math would be treated differently than kids not gifted in math. That way, poor kids who are gifted at math do not get enrichment programs while the families of rich kids gifted at math just hire private math tutors. Gee, it's almost like they were cutting off their noses to spite their faces. Anyway, math is so boring and racist and it's not like we, as a country, face extraordinarily intense competition with countries where STEM is treated like a religion? Oh, wait a minute...

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erica steussie's avatar

Very powerful piece… bravo el gato malo 🐈

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The Wiltster's avatar

The synergy of naked self-serving incentives leading to bedfellows across the political spectrum has been something to behold. All these assholes, elbowing each other as they attempt to drink deeply at the trough of COVID hysteria...

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Wordsnail's avatar

Freedom future lays upon our will to die on this hill.

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