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Slippery Richard's avatar

They’re really gonna start scrambling when individual doctors start being blamed for taking people off transplant lists for being unvaccinated.

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el gato malo's avatar

and when it comes to light how much the insurers paid doctors to push the covid vaxx (though bounties for hitting % of patients vaccinated targets) and how the drug companies probably paid the insurers to do this.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Honestly i think the best thing Trump can do (and it's not just with c19 - everything else) is to hold bimonthly "fireside chats" for the next 6 months where he explains to people what's going on, and how it fits into the big picture.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

What a great idea! I can see it already... the bluehaired wokalots would be screaming hysterically through their masks,.throwing their decaf skinny soy-oat lattes at the screen.

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Pi Guy's avatar

That's... very specific.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

LOLOLOL. You are one funny dude!

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Melissa Fountain's avatar

bwa-hahahaha

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Donna O's avatar

That televised cabinet meeting!!!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes

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AndyinBC's avatar

Good idea - and diametrically opposed to the "keep 'em in the dark and feed 'em shit" policies of all of our rulers since Ronnie.

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Pi Guy's avatar

I just heard this in my head in Ben Stein's voice: "Anyone? _Something_ R-O-O-M Politics. *pause* MushROOM Politics."

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Alex Rayman's avatar

I had the same kind of thought after he did Rogan: go back on the biggest podcast in the world routinely, really talk about things. Probably wouldn’t do that one so frequently, but I bet Rogan would have him back on

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Rogan already invited him back. But I like that idea too!

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bara.ex.nihilo's avatar

I prefer the Oval Office setting to keep the optics of neutrality over favoritism.

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Brett Hyland's avatar

Greenfire side-chats.

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AJoy's avatar

That’s what Dennis Prager does 💕

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TokyoJoe's avatar

Lol - he could do a virtual pat on the head and say there there as they freak out. Oh if only…..

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eva writes stuff's avatar

X Spaces? Maybe with a different cabinet member each week? Or Rogan. That was epic!

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

Absolutely. I have been advocating for this as I think it would be a big step toward restoring power to the people (cue inspirational music).

This really could work. I have seen such projects inspire people to become involved with civic matters rather than just be recipients of dubious information. One mayor that I know of held such gatherings, which served to inform both the government and the people. And post-Sandy Hook, the Obama Administration convened nationwide round table discussions of mental health. This was a most under-appreciated effort, as those who engaged seemed to feel better for having done so.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

That's exactly what I'm thinking. He doesn't even need to make it political. Just the facts.

Someone needs to make sure they're threading this all together so it's easy for people to follow the broad strokes.

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taxpayer's avatar

Hasn't the payments to doctors already "come to light?" For instance, https://vaxopedia.org/2024/05/13/were-doctors-bribed-to-give-covid-vaccines/

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Kay's avatar

Most people still don’t know.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Or don't want to know

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AndyinBC's avatar

Exactly!

Which ties back to Bad Kitty's observation re individual's perceptions of themselves, of who and what they are - if they have to confront the opinions they expressed, or the actions they may have undertaken during the vaccine hysteria at the height of the scamdemic.

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Lauri Maniccia's avatar

Most people are unaware of MOST of reality.

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Graphite's avatar

I'm not sure that is the best link to use - he seems to be trying to debunk the idea!

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taxpayer's avatar

A valid point. I guess I figured that anyone who reads thru it critically would understand what's going on. I have great respect for Massie and McCullough, and I guess I assumed others do too. The post never defines "the difference between a bribe and an incentive."

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Ann Glover's avatar

Yup, you're right. Looks like your common or garden "fact check" with the usual obfuscations and fiddling with definitions. An incentive is a bribe, as far as I'm concerned. And always is when it comes to medicine.

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Robird's avatar

This story is bullshit. Never happened.

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AT's avatar

I don't have all the details but I can tell you my brother is a family doctor and he got--according to him--a "huge bonus" right around this time, which he offered as an explanation for why he made some big purchases. He is a vaxtard, lives far away, (and constantly sick now) so we don't discuss the topic any more.

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MrsS's avatar

This has been happening for at least 20 years with the childhood vaccine schedule and parents don’t seem to mind. Why would this matter now?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

They just assume that the CDC guidelines are mandates for going to school.

Total grift. And unethical to say the least.

I was a victim of this when we had our kids. I didn't even think about it.

Lesson learned.

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Momcat's avatar

You can't take your baby home from the hospital if they don't get a help b shot... a baby that has no risk of her b unless her mother is a heavy drug user, a baby that has about a year's worth of her mother's immune system when born. Don't want it, they'll CPS on you.

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Scott's avatar

Might depend on the state. My kid received no shots.

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April Smith's avatar

That is NOT true. You have to sign a consent form. It's an optional shot as are all of them.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

They're buttholes and don't tell you that. Most 28 year olds who put there kids in school don't think about it and just nod

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IceSkater40's avatar

This is state dependent. I think New York is one of the hardest on this one.

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MrsS's avatar

Yeah, you can. I lived in California and none of my kids had the shot.

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Julinthecrown's avatar

We HAD been indoctrinated to think 'well, the government said so'. No mas.

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MrsS's avatar
Feb 27Edited

My new state of Iowa was proposing a bill to alert parents they could say no. I don't think it passed, but I love that people are thinking about it.

And yes, it should be criminal. And even if you think you know what you want to do, the docs push it so hard you start to feel like you're wrong. My oldest two had a few shots. My son got whooping cough at 18 months (only shot which he was actually up to date) and the old school doc told me "Oh yeah, that vaccine doesn't really work." That's when I stopped doing anything.

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

I don't know if it is all total grift, mostly because I am incapable of locating with precision the date, time, and place on which the government's credibility forever bit the dust.

At one time the CDC's word was good. Reliable. Now it is difficult to trust them to tell you what day of the week it is. You would want to check for yourself.

It may have been, by and large, a combination of lassitude and mission creep.

The polio vaccines were considered miraculous. And others followed on. And then there were more. And more. And for the longest while there did not seem to be any consequences so folks lined up and like good citizens got the shots and the vaccines and the this and the that because who wanted to be the neighborhood Luddite?

And now it is slowly dawning on people that maybe more is less.

Real science is needed and that is quite difficult to conduct when you are working with human health and emergent diseases. But that is no reason to default to treatment that is supposed to be prevention, but is, undeniably, treatment in its own right.

Hoping for the best for an overhaul with all the 'health' thinkers.

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Francisco d’Anconia's avatar

They don’t know

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Dr Linda's avatar

They trusted. The medical profession is one that I will not trust

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Pi Guy's avatar

And that's scary because we need them to be better.

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SadieJay's avatar

My grandkids have very few shots between all 7 of them. And my daughter-in-law is a school nurse. Parents come in ready to raise hell about the 'vaccine' schedule and she quickly and quietly hands them an exemption form. It makes them speechless. I worry about my active duty kids in the military too.

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kittynana's avatar

@Francisco- I've been complaining for years ever since my now 24 yr old granddaughter was getting her shots. I was blown away by the schedule. And now SHE has kids and I have a 3 yr old grandson. I have a feeling I, as a parent, wouldn't allow it.

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Dave Slough's avatar

So you good with babies that are 12 months old getting 27 vaccines

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MrsS's avatar

If this comment was to me, no. Of course not.

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Grandma Bear's avatar

And perhaps the drug companies got the money to pay the insurers from some opaque government agency.

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Guido's avatar

Well, I feel the important data is not big pharma offering payouts, but our "health care professionals" taking it.

Many doctors may be pompous assholes, but it goes without saying they are not stupid. They may be ignorant, like any mortal, but not stupid. Accepting such large sums of cash clearly under the table indicates some high-level mass citizen-fuckery taking place.

I can't believe they expect "bonuses" or "tips" for simply fulfilling their Hippocratic Oath responsibilities.

-They know. They know everything is going to change for them. Kind'a ironic that the vile persecution they wanted foisted on us is going to completely submerge them. They will not know the peace they once took for granted with their elevated societal status.

They are, and most certainly will be, scared shitless. Deservedly so.

Onward, Christian soldiers!

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

Does it go without saying that they are not stupid? Many is the physician that I have met that I concluded I would have preferred to encounter while under anesthesia.

Compounding the problem is everyone treating MDs as if they are geniuses -- the M.Deity syndrome.

No. They make mistakes.

But! Today's medicine is metric bound and liability policed. Test results one smidgen higher or lower than 'average' require medication without consideration of all the other activities of the body.

There is a wonderful documentary -- I believe it is called "Rounds" -- that shows older physicians instructing medical students. The older physicians do wild things like listening to the patient, touching the patient, and asking questions. Shocking. Then, if they need to know more, they look at the tests. The medical students swoon in confusion. The older doctors get the diagnoses right more often than not and they seem to be able to hear trouble coming with impressive accuracy.

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Robird's avatar

I have no recollection of this being an insurance driven effort; the Federal Government was the source of all the pressure to administer the mRNA technology. No incentive that I was informed of by insurers. Speaking as a CMO of a healthcare entity. The threat was decertification by CMS. Plain and simple coercion.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Or, like robots, giving Remdesivir and ventilating patients in hospitals.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. Have you seen all these studies that definitively demonstrate that taking vit d or getting it through sunshine had far better efficacy than the non-vaxx vaxx?

Its rather astounding.

The only treatment necessary was literally to go outside and "play".

Isn't it curious that they made that verboten?

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

And now they're dimming the sun. So... no outdoors, no sunshine, no carbon, no life and getting shot up by the deathvax. What are they trying to achieve? Total annihilation?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

If they had their way. But there's a global peasant rebellion that's just now getting traction

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Graphite's avatar

The peasants are revolting! hahaha

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SadieJay's avatar

I have been out here handing out free pitch forks and giving a tour by torchlight. And when they don't see it at the end of the tour, it is WHOOPS upside their head.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

You're packing the wrong tools.

I'm talking blow torches and pliers

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CMCM's avatar

Throughout history, eventually the peasants revolt!

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suannee's avatar

Navyo Ericsen - Not total, just their preferred number of earthly inhabitants.

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David Rinker's avatar

Si

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Pi Guy's avatar

But Vitamin D is cheap and easy to use. Where's the graft in that?

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The BarefootHealer's avatar

The fact that you're paying ANYTHING for it in the first place is the graft.

Its basically like sticking cooking oil in a ferrari. Its an oil. It will lubricate your engine, but so NOT going to do the job as its needed and it will stuff your engine!

Sure the supplement is a lipid, it will go everywhere that a lipid can. Even places its not supposed to- bit like the LNP's in the C19 shots.🤨

The vit D from the sun- goes specifically to VitD receptors, in specific zones, after its been made in a unique format, at specific circadian times.

Anyone who says Vit D supps are legit as good as- is stupid or grifting.

#follownone #mistakeswereNOTmade #getlocalised

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Barekicks's avatar

Some of us live in places where it is impossible to absorb any UV light from the sun for at least six months of the year. Yes I eat oily fish etc. but I absolutely need supplements because I am not genetically adapted to live at such a high latitude.

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The BarefootHealer's avatar

"...some of us live in places where it is impossible to absorb any UV light from the sun..."😐🤔🤨

Unless you live underground, that's not true. Especially in the cold regions (above the 54th parallel).

You literally have an inbuilt system in your body specifically evolved to allow you to absorb MORE ultra violet light, and retain it for longer, the leptinmelanocortin pathway, activated by pro-opiomelanocortin (POMC).

In other words it makes you more sensitive to making your own vitamin d internally.🤔

But if you ingest vitD supps, you tell your body not to make it (because it likes to keep things balanced) and then that signals your body to downregulate your leptinmelanocortin pathway, meaning ultimately, the body may no longer be able to switch it back on in response to environmental sensors (mitochondria), after long term use.

Plus, just like HDL and LDL are simply markers for cholesterol being moved around your body, serum vitD levels are merely an indicator of how it is being transported. Not necessarily how much you have, or how well your body is using it, in the right places.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

What the hell is the difference between grift and graft?

I'm not sure I know

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Pi Guy's avatar

I think I like this distintion. They overlap a little bit Graft seems to have a political bent. A Grifter is more like a Card Sharp.

Then again, Columbia School of Journalism pub. https://www.cjr.org/language_corner/grift-graft-etymology.php#:~:text=As%20M%2DW%20says%20in%20its,sense%20of%20the%20word%20graft.%E2%80%9D

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

An internal debate that has vexxed me for some months now. Still no satisfactory answer to date. Grift is suggestive of confidence games, and graft evocative of bribery or corruption. I suspect the two are as inbred as the mountain folks of West Virginia, though. Hard to have one without the other.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

LOLOLOL.

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The BarefootHealer's avatar

Thats because we literally generate energy from the sun in our mitochondria, to the point where we make 70% of our energy requirements from it and food makes up the other 30%. If, and thats a big IF, you're not nNative blue light toxic. 🤨 Makes sense now doesnt it?😉🤔😯

Makes sense why they were going so hard on Africa now too?.🤔

#follownone #mistakeswereNOTmade #getlocalised

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AJoy's avatar
Feb 26Edited

Oh and stay away from all those vitamins and supplements being pushed on you as the answer! They are filled with crud, sludge and manufactured with chemical solvents and mostly come from India and China. Big $cam.

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The BarefootHealer's avatar

Yep, the manufacturing of supplements is vastly ludicrous and mostly unregulated. So much so its called "little Pharma", within the industry itself.

Unless you are sick or debilitated in some way, you don't need to use supplements for things that your body makes, or eventually your body will stop making them correctly! The body will operate as efficiently (lowest quantum energy) as it can. If you do pretend arm curls (supplement) for it, it will use the energy elsewhere AND still not work efficiently.

IF you are in an active disease state, then very few supplements may help to get you back to natural efficiency, in conjunction with active light medicine.

In short- not ALL supplements are evil, but mostly you don't need them anyway.

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Barekicks's avatar

But this just isn't true... if you are deficient or have difficulty absorbing particular nutrients then supplementation can help. You shouldn't do it randomly, though, it should be based on getting a blood test and looking at specific markers.

Also there is a whole field of research that looks at whether therapeutic doses of vitamins/supplements can be used as part of a treatment package for certain diseases. And yes, often times they can but again, you need to know what you're doing.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Exactly.

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Bill Quick's avatar

Nope. Not curious at all.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yeah pretty obvious, right?

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SadieJay's avatar

I knew it from the beginning. From the effing beginning. When we drove across country and were driving past Manatee Hospital and the parking lot was EMPTY. It was sus until that moment then it became a cemented fact. Those Mike Foxtrots were ALL lying. If everyone is sick and dying? Where are the damn cars in the parking lots? Docduhs? Nurses? There were WAY more people in on this scam than we can ever imagine. Right down to the hospital janitor. Spill it!

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Bill Quick's avatar

Remember when they moved one of the Navy's two huge hospital ships into NY harbor, and then never used it?

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kittynana's avatar

@Nancy- I have two high school friends who were immediately ventilated in 2021. I have SO MANY TIMES wanted to say "You weren't saved. You were nearly killed!" The one keeps getting boosters because "You can't be too careful" (insert eyeroll here _____) but the other is furious and knows now how he was lied to. Yes, both were jabbed. I also suspect they have proclivities that may have contributed to difficulty breathing (smoking for one, drinking for another). Another high school friend's son is a dr at the CDC. "Oh, we only listen to him." Well, guess what, Mom- your kid was lied to, too.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

My son-in-law lost his Dad. He received Remdesivir and in 24 hours he was in compete renal failure. He took two rounds of dialysis but then decided to let go and “go home to be with the Lord.” I will always wonder if he had stayed home and requested O2 treatments there if he could have survived. I believe he would have. There are countless stories like mine.

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kittynana's avatar

@Nancy- that's awful

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Dragon News's avatar

He works for the CDC. He lied too.

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kittynana's avatar

@Natli- who does? Did I miss something?

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George Williams Unsupervised's avatar

My niece was diagnosed with cancer. The surgery centers in my area as well as the doctors forced her to choose: vaccination or no treatment. She agonized over this decision but, rightly to my mind, chose to risk the vaccine over the certainty of cancer. She's cancer free now. She's also one of the lucky ones without apparent vaccine injury (unlike three of my kids, two who willingly took the jab and boosters and one who was forced by his wife, all of whom had moderate to very severe reactions). I don't support revenge. However, fully support real consequences to those who profited and who coerced others into this terrible Hobson's Choice. Never hate, never forget.

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Lynda H's avatar

I am very glad your niece's experience was positive. I too know a lady who had multiple jabs, got cancer, and is now in the all-clear. But my dear husband refused the shots, got cancer (still searching for answers there), had surgery and was given the 'all clear!' - and a transfusion of vaxxed blood. The cancer roared back and he died 20 months later.

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George Williams Unsupervised's avatar

I am so sorry you lost your husband. The instances of rare cancers and "turbo cancers" of those jabbed are legion, especially in young adults. Hard stuff, here. God bless you, your husband, and family. I wish you peace in his memory.

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

Never hate, never forget.

I like that. Works better than forgive, don't forget and many other nostrums that I find leave me in a disagreeable state.

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George Williams Unsupervised's avatar

I didn't intend to imply that forgiveness isn't part of the formula. It is too easy and too damaging to choose hate. Forgiveness doesn't let the other guy off, it simply let's me release the need to be angry, sad, or captured by the other person's acts. We are all ultimately responsible for our actions, both intentional and unintentional.

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Sheila Secrist's avatar

Oh I hope so! I really really hope so.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes.

You can turn sheep into fox's, real quick, at the jury of a goose's trial when money's involved.

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Pi Guy's avatar

I feel like Rodents are underrepresented in this parable.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

bring back P-Nut. poor guy got caught up in a Ruby Ridge Rodent fiasco

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CMCM's avatar
Feb 28Edited

We have an adorable juvenile squirrel who has taken up residence near our house so he can raid the bird feeder every day. We decided to call him Peanut.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Government is the solution for half of the population, which needs taxpayer funds to survive. Mittens was attacked for saying that. I knew an “expert scientist” from Yale who mandated the jab for his wedding, but he will ignore this new science from his alma mater.

Keep pushing the window.

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el gato malo's avatar

perhaps more sinister, it's not really a solution for them, it's a problem they have mistaken for one.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. Exactly.

The best problem solvers are those that recognize the default position is that doing nothing may be the best solution.

These people don't have the mental acuity to solve problems because they've never solved problems themselves - they've just been told how to "solve" them.

But what would these people have without problems?; just the big scary unknown. They're not really looking for solutions, rather just problem-pinning

This is because they have been coddled, so they don't even realize they are the creators of their experience, and most problems they have must be met from within. The overlords manipulate this because they know there's no solution for their "problem" - just temporary distractions. So they give them "wooden clogs" to go stamp out fires.

They're living a soap opera, where real people pretend to be fake people with manufactured problems, being watched by other real people living a soap opera, to forget their real problems.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I heard recently on an interview that AI is to 'relieve the burden of thought', as for most obedient people, thinking hurts - such as problem solving.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

If it was easy...everyone would do it.

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Bill Quick's avatar

Somebody call the cops. I just stole that!

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Pi Guy's avatar

It's the Hard that makes it Great. https://theatreave.com/blogs/news/it-s-supposed-to-be

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Tim R's avatar

A giant Munchausen by Proxy!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. Exactly.

Or just one giant "yeast infection". That's basically today's Left

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Miss DP's avatar

Your last paragraph! Wow. Great summation.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Thx!

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Freedom Fox's avatar

"The Circulation of Elites"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elites

Vilfredo Pareto's theory on governance. Pareto has many theories beyond the 80-20 Rule known by economists. Many involving Efficiency, Optimization, the Mind and Society. He taught young Benito Mussolini as he was forming his ideas about the world he sought to lead.

The Circulation of Elites is what we are witnessing as we see powerful TrumpHaters become Trump Supporters, flip-flop on issues like gender, climate, vaccines, masks, Ukraine, all of it. They have no loyalty to ideologies or people. Only to their status in proximity to power. Marxist linguist Noam Chomsky described the same phenomenon in Manufacture of Consent, corporate managers preaching the wonders of capitalism easily becoming commissars preaching the virtue of communism. As long as it's the same elite position their values are flexible. Olympic gymnast flexible.

Vilfredo Pareto has a lot to learn from when seeking to understand the forces trying to perfect humanity, make us efficient and optimal, eliminate choice and "Inefficient Freedom" from the equation:

Damned Efficient Slavery’ vs. ‘Inefficient Freedom’

SAN FRANCISCO (AP), January 4th, 1958

https://archive.org/details/dailycolonist0158uvic_1/mode/2up?view=theater

Only by fully understanding their motivations are we able to thoroughly defeat them once and for all. Rather than allow them to rule us however the winds are blowing.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Ha

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Kind of like why you shouldn’t feed the ducks. The ducks also don’t know any better.

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

The unwillingness of the medical profession to connect the dots is baffling and disturbing. Only increases my already alarming loss of confidence and respect for them.

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LEA7's avatar

Agreed, and will avoid allopathic care - period.

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Pi Guy's avatar

I noticed that my PCP docs used to wear regular people clothes, nicely dressed. Maybe some white coats but not mine.

Then COVID hit and they all started wearing scrubs and masks and gloves - and they still do, except 50-50 on masks. But still, a lot of masks.

It's like they had to just do what THE Medical Profession™ does. I mean, they are THE Science™ and stuff.

But they're - we're? - part of a large hospital network system guild thingcand I assume that, once the lights went up, they just had to do the dance. Or else they'd probably be what is now known as DOGEed.

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Maria's avatar

Yes, the lack of critical thinking is huge in the medical profession. It's funny, regarding the scrups, I think sometimes is a matter of status. As an european-born living in Florida, it still shocks me to see people in their scrubs in the supermarkets, restaurants, the street... even the surgery cap sometimes. I studied veterinarian medicine back in Spain. If I would have dared to wear my scrubs in the faculty restaurant I would have been expelled, and this was the restaurant serving only veterinarian students, not a normal restaurant, but, it was totally forbidden to wear the scrubs outside the surgery room, the visit rooms and the necropsy/anatomy laboratories. Has the scrub being worn in a heart surgery previously visited an starbucks? I hope not, but, can we be sure? When I realized this was not forbidden by the medical profession in USA I lost all faith in them. They just want to show everybody they are doctors/nurses/medical professionals, not realizing they also show they lack of hygiene and profesionalism.

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Dave Slough's avatar

My doctor said he’s not a biologist and does what the medical establishment says to do

But he now know Covid shots are bad news

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jim's avatar
Feb 26Edited

All it takes to be a doctor is the willingness and ability to pass 8 years worth of college classes. And with the internet and AI any resourceful 20 something can pretty much fake it til they make it, for any college degree. That white coat they wear has lost a lot of its luster these last few years.

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David Rinker's avatar

Question: What do you call someone who graduates at the bottom of their class? Answer: Doctor.

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kertch's avatar

I disagree. They are a step above lawyers. My motto is: Law School is the last resort for unemployable liberal arts majors.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

They all do what they’re told. That’s why they are doctors in the first place. They aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. It’s why most of them went into medicine in the first place. They learned early on that if you do this, you will get this result. So they did what their teachers told them, and they got the result they told they would get, until one day they were applying for fellowships.

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LEA7's avatar

Yes, but the RSV vax now has FDA warnings for Guillain Barre syndrome. My doctor today says the cvd vax is “crap”, but he was unaware of the newest guidance. Not inspiring…

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SF Bay Area's avatar

‘Government is the solution for half of the population’

This is the real issue. I call them the land of misfit toys. I wouldn’t hire any of them, and no one else will either. That’s why they vote to have a government in place that will completely provide for everything they need in life.

I believe we must address how we handle this segment of our population. Without a solution, we’ll remain just one election cycle away from more grift and fraud by the next wave of communist-leaning politicians who occupy the White House.

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SAMO's avatar

Should people lose the right to vote if dependent on government to support them?

I am beginning to think so.

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kertch's avatar

Dependents should not have the right to vote. If you're not responsible enough to provide for yourself, how can you choose a responsible government?

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Maria's avatar

Yep, many philosophers have defended this. If you don't contribute you cannot decide. You could even go further.... if you live from the State (public salaries) you cannot decide on it due to conflict of interests.

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Katie Andraski's avatar

I wonder if a flat tax would solve that so everyone pays for the privilege of living here. Half of Americans don’t pay taxes.

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Pi Guy's avatar

There is some value in having some skin in the game but I think the answer is to stop giving out the money.

Or scale it way back. DOGE might be just the Guy.

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AndyinBC's avatar

If, "stop giving out the money", is the answer - then, "Cui bono?", must be the question.

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Pi Guy's avatar

It sure is.

And I love it when you speak French!

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kertch's avatar

Wait, what's Sonny Bono's sister have to do with it?

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SAMO's avatar
Mar 3Edited

Some people and circumstances may want to give a leg up - but that money should be temporary, NOT a lifestyle. And certainly not a lifestyle from generation to generation. Your career or job should not be learning how to game the system for your livelihood. Which is what it's turned into.

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Mitch's avatar

It would definitely help with the perennial problem of democracies voting for their own financial destruction, eventually setting themselves up for dictators.

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kertch's avatar

Even with the slashing of government, we have a large percentage of the population with no productive job skills, and this is just as true for the white-collar apparatchik as the urban welfare recipient. We've outsourced productive industries and reemployed people as non-productive paper pushers. Does the DEI officer make the employees more productive? the company more profitable? the world a better place? Or does it just make people angrier, everything more complex, and our work less efficient? The answer is pretty obvious.

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Sue Don Nim's avatar

Make work jobs for women. Feminism has been the most destructive social program ever devised, both societally and economically.

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Bettina's avatar

I think unless you are retired or in receipt of disability benefit, you should only be able to vote if you pay tax. Anyone employed by the government or receiving benefits should be disqualified from voting on the basis of conflict of interest.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Only people who work at least 30 hours a week, file taxes, and are gainfully employed should get to vote. If you meet those criteria, you shouldn’t pay any taxes and should qualify for government benefits—call it a worker’s stipend. Everyone else? No entitlements, no exceptions. This riffs on Milton Friedman’s negative income tax, a twist on universal basic income. Instead of mailing every breathing soul a check, you target it: only employed folks below a set income threshold get it. Step one, though—scrap the minimum wage.

The stipend would guarantee a baseline—say, $20 an hour equivalent for your time. In struggling, underdeveloped areas, it could scale up to $25 or $30 an hour. Here’s the kicker: employers in those places might even charge workers to take jobs—think apprenticeships or training gigs—because the government check more than covers it. People would still come out ahead.

Minimum wage sounds noble, but it’s a hidden tax on the poor. It jacks up costs, kills entry-level jobs, and locks low-skill workers out of the market. Ditch it, replace it with this stipend, and watch people flood into “undesirable” jobs—janitors, farmhands, whatever—because the pay’s effectively sorted. In dead-end towns, you’d spark work instead of welfare. Friedman saw it: don’t hand out fish, rig the system so people can fish and eat.

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robren72's avatar

So...people who are disabled shouldn't be allowed to vote? Or mothers who stay home with their children? I think this is a slippery slope- remember, not that long ago, only male landowners could vote. I'd hate to end up back there.

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Sue Don Nim's avatar

Universal suffrage was the biggest mistake the world ever made.

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robren72's avatar

Please explain...

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MLHVM's avatar

If only........

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Mitch's avatar

Our educational institutions are numerically swollen via government subsidized student loans, have lax academic standards and are politically overheated. They're incubators for a surplus of graduates that are only fit to be bureaucrats and activists.

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New Scott's avatar

“Lax academic standards” is an understatement

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kit kat's avatar

How about if you file a tax return you get a voucher to vote

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

May i submit this to the court as evidence of your post:

https://redstate.com/beckynoble/2025/02/25/democrats-continue-to-not-get-it-poll-says-75-percent-think-biden-migrant-invasion-was-an-accident-n2185997

Just astonishing. I still have a buddy that's sticking by this canard.

The problem isn't that the D's are unethical, corrupt, criminal, lying dirtbags.

The problem is that their supporters don't care.

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Rikard's avatar

Government is the final solution for 50% of the population, more like it.

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AndyinBC's avatar

The term "final solution" has a somewhat negative context.

But, with all of the recent revelations, about governments around the world, perhaps it is appropriate.

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Pi Guy's avatar

Don't be Immanentizimg the Eschaton, Andy!

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AndyinBC's avatar

Dayum - had to look that one up.

In my twisted little mind, "Eschaton" is the name of the SF trilogy by Frederik Pohl in the late 90's.

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Pi Guy's avatar

Knowing completely useless things is pretty much the greatest service I provide.

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AndyinBC's avatar

Given that I have been accused of a similar willingness to share tidbits from my vast store of irrelevancies, perhaps we could do a joint venture. I'm sure that, (up to a month ago), government funding was available.

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Rick Danz's avatar

The govt being the solution for the entire population is exactly what the Marxist bastards want and what they are angling for. Going to be extremely difficult rooting them out. It will be like eradicating scotch broom, the seeds of which are near impregnable and can lie in the ground in suspended animation for decades.

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Brett Richards's avatar

I was particularly amused when the New York Times declared this newly recognized vaccine injury syndrome is “rare”.

How would they know this exactly?

I didn’t get the vaccine primarily because I was relatively young, in outstanding physical condition, and not mentally retarded although also because I resented being ordered to get a vaccine by someone who probably thought I needed a spanish flu vaccine, and that the Kaiser must be defeated at all costs.

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SnowInTheWind's avatar

Same, for exactly the same reasons except the 'young' part.

I'm old enough to remember the media-generated hysteria about the Swine Flu in 1976. It was the same as with Covid, but the pushers weren't as powerful then. It went on all summer and into the fall of my senior year in college. There was serious talk about kicking us malingerers out of college if we didn't get the vaccine. Then one day I came back to the student house where I lived, and it was all quiet. Nothing about it on the news, and nobody was talking about it. Apparently we had a functional FDA back then, which yanked the vax after 25 people had died from it. Final score: about half the country vaccinated against Swine Flu; one person perhaps dead of the Swine Flu; at least 53 people dead of the vax. I think 60 Minutes eventually ran an episode on it, but most of the crap media that had been chittering condescendingly about it for months just went silent and memory-holed the whole affair.

The Covid play was deja vu on steroids, and instantly recognizable.

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Bill Quick's avatar

I didn't get the vaccine because of right from the outset it was obvious the whole thing was a dangerous scam. The fact that all the Pharms peddling that stuff were exempted from liability made it obvious.

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TRM's avatar

I always laugh when I hear people say "The vax saved millions" because only 180,000 were ever at risk. The CDC admitted that the IFR was 0.3% in May of 2020. That is 3 times the seasonal influenza+pneumonia IFR and that takes out 50-60k (max) so at most 180k were at risk.

How can the vax save millions when only 180k were at risk?

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

And the IFR was tiered, increasing with age, but that didn't stop the censorship of social media.

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JustAPoster's avatar

Was it though or is it that the rate of death is tiered and it followed that? I remember a paper from a grad student out of Johns Hopkins which seemed to show that covid just followed the normal mortality rate. The paper was quickly retracted but it questioned the pandemic as the number of deaths they looked at didn't seem out of line with the normal death rate. People said that they hadn't tallied in certain deaths which may have been the case but that bit I found interesting. You would get a similar situation where it looks like IFR is increasing with age if you have a test that just lights up some percent of time. You test everyone who died to see if they had covid and voila it will match the death rate. Not suggesting this is the case but have others looked at death rate by age vs covid IFR by age to see if they match?

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Barekicks's avatar

Yes, this was always an easy calculation to make.

I guess according to retards like Apoorna there were new cohorts of susceptible individuals magically appearing as time went on (despite the virus also becoming less severe -- another fact contradicting their claims which these people can never explain).

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Lauri Maniccia's avatar

The thing is, there was no pandemic. How could the bio-weapon "make the pandemic worse", when there was no pandemic? They killed and maimed, to be certain, but to say there was even a pandemic is bullshit. Plain and simple. You must know this! You are far too intelligent to think otherwise. Other than that, love your work! Really! Great humor and writing. Peace, love and freedom✌️❤️

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Juliaah's avatar

The ‘purported pandemic’ ?

There WAS a pandemic of sorts though, and it was infectious…but it didn’t deal in illness (except mental illness), it dealt in fear and shame

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Susan Daniels's avatar

It was the yearly flu.

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Candy's avatar

I think they are referring to the mass delusion

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SF Bay Area's avatar

El Gato knows there wasn’t a pandemic.

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Martha's avatar

Then why does El Gato repeat the fiction that Covid was created in a lab? MN908947 from the Drosten paper is a string of bits for a fake PCR test. It's not a virus and was never capable of causing disease. There's no evidence that any coronavirus or flu virus exists, was ever isolated from a sick patient, or shown to cause any disease. I haven't seen that spelled out here.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

"in silico" gain of fiction

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Barekicks's avatar

There were real waves of illness; whether or not this meets the definition of pandemic depends on one's definition.

That doesn't mean that what most people refer to as "the pandemic" wasn't largely a manufactured simulation and socio-political construct.

But I'm getting tired of the "no virus" crowd.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Approximately 10% of Americans aged 20 and older are classified as morbidly obese, with a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 40 or higher. As you aptly put it, these individuals are living daily in ‘waves of illness,’ caught in a relentless tide of health challenges. For them, each day balances on a fragile precipice—where even something as minor as a hangnail could push them perilously close to death’s door.

It’s mind-blowing that nearly 45% of American adults now clock in with a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 30 or higher, firmly in obese territory. Yet, the left keeps peddling this fantasy that we should celebrate it, insisting ‘healthy at any size’ holds water—conveniently ignoring the grim stats and the brutal realities of living with that weight. Take a look at how many are dying right now while battling the flu, and tell me this isn’t a crisis being sugarcoated.

Obesity Connection: Obesity (BMI ≥ 30) is a known risk factor for severe flu outcomes. Among hospitalized adults with flu in the 2024-2025 season, obesity is one of the most commonly reported underlying conditions (alongside hypertension and cardiovascular disease), affecting over 50% of those cases where data is available. Exact numbers of obese individuals dying with flu aren’t broken out in real-time stats, but the overlap is significant.

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Perplexity's avatar

I'm hoping RFK can help straighten out some of our food supply, which will at least put a dent in that. We largely (pun intended) eat garbage in the US.

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TNK's avatar

Worst "bioweapon" ever. If we suppose there was a GOF virus that spread around the world (there wasn't and it didn't), the fearsome "bioweapon" gave some folks a cold and occasionally killed some folks already teetering. Boy, that's some scary stuff there kids! So many "Covid contrarians", who rightly distrust everything the government, media, and the medical agencies tell them, STILL buy the GOF limited hangout. The Overton window hasn't shifted THAT far for some I guess.

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Francisco d’Anconia's avatar

Yeah they failed at that too. Their bioweapon wasn’t deadly enough to push everyone to get the vax.

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Bill Quick's avatar

Well, it did cure the seasonal flu for at least a year...

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Perplexity's avatar

There could have been two IL illnesses, one the usual seasonal flu, and the other "COVID". The PCR tests were neither specific enough, nor uniformly performed (cycles, etc. varied). They tested the PCR tests against various inanimate objects and got "positive" results, so why wouldn't influenza also test as "COVID" positive using these unreliable procedures?

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Lauri Maniccia's avatar

They simply replaced the flu with COVID

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Lauri Maniccia's avatar

Yep. Magically fucking gone!! It's a miracle!!

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kertch's avatar

Who says that the government can actually make an effective GOF bioweapon, and that maybe we got hit by a failed beta version?

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Rikard's avatar

Here's some paranoia-fuel:

The problem for a prospective save-the-planet-via-mass murder-overlord is that diseases don't discriminate enough. What to do? Just releasing your Morticoccus or Captain Trips or whatever won't do you any good if you too can be infected.

But releasing it in two parts, in the form of vaccines against some other ailment?

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kertch's avatar

Well even the old movie "poison & antidote" trope is mostly fiction. The only thing that's close is opioid/Narcan or Anaphylaxis/Epinephrine, and these need to be applied just right, so it's impossible to apply secretly. Targeted murder/genocide seems to be the only proven method - so far.

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Rikard's avatar

Oh I know it's Bond-villain levels of credibility to my speculation.

But as a nefarious plot it kind of works:

Introduce new virus. Use new vaccine as vector for a dangerous component.

Wait 5 years.

Introduce another virus. Have second vaccine. Both vaccines amplify the danger and probability of side-effects to an escalating degree.

The diseases are simply there to get an excuse to have people take the shots, over and over again, compounding the danger every time.

Since the Blofeld in this scenario could simply /not/ take the shot, it works a lot better than a disease engineered to be a killer á la Moonraker.

Kind of how environmental toxins present in food, water and clothing and cell phones and [...] all compound each others' toxicity.

But the logistics and paper trail, and the actual bio-chemistry, that's where it breaks apart. I don't doubt for a second that there are plenty of oligarchs and politicians in the West, that would happily attempt an Endlösung to save the climate or whatever - just look at Canada's version of Aktion T4.

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Lauri Maniccia's avatar

Oh I think they fucked up on many levels. I believe many were blessed due to their haste. There are several theories that I have heard. First the DOD had the pharm companies rush to produce mass quantities, that the batches and the "quality" were....inadequate... To produce whatever the initial consequences were meant to be. The second thing was the implementation of the shots themselves. That before each injection the air was suppose to be aspirated out of the needle, so as to disperse the "chip" into the arm, where it was meant to remain stationary. As I write this, it seems they are absurd ideas. But who knows??

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kertch's avatar

One thing I noticed at the beginning of the pandemic, there was a big concern about making sure that the vaccines stayed at very low temperature, or they would lose effectiveness. Hospitals and clinics were concerned because few had the necessary freezers. Suddenly, with no explanation or further discussion, this problem just "disappeared". Molecular destabilization or the thermal degradation of delicate organic molecules isn't a problem that just disappears.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

Gain of Function is not a conquest of the natural world it is a petrie dish model with power that extends a short distance for a few hours outside the ideal growing conditions in these labs. What has been most carefully guarded is that this is how all the mRNA Transfections were made.. it was never anything like a vaccine except in PR which continues. . pandemic from sole source & identical everywhere is remake of Cat in the Hat episode w pink snow.. Search Gryphon for stockpile vaccines decisions & my favorite "however" notes models cannot predict human immune response and "wild type virus" yet proceed with models unteathered from reality.

https://web.archive.org/web/20161206155142/http://www.gryphonscientific.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Risk-and-Benefit-Analysis-of-Gain-of-Function-Research-Final-Report.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20150822064507/https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/references/gibco-cell-culture-basics/transfection-basics.html

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Eidein's avatar

There was definitely a pandemic, if I might be pedantic.

A 'pandemic' is the set of social and public health responses to a disease outbreak. Unless you're trying to tell me that nobody ever shut down anything, there was a pandemic. It was premised on lies and bullshit. But there absolutely was a pandemic.

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Lauri Maniccia's avatar

A pandemic refers to an outbreak of a communicable disease. There may have been mass poisoning, and mass delusion. Propaganda to be certain, but there was no communicable outbreak of disease. Simply didn't happen.

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Barekicks's avatar

There was disease but it's unclear through what methods it spread. It clearly wasn't a case of chain transmission. It may have circulated in the atmosphere.

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Lauri Maniccia's avatar

The entire idea of contamination or spread, seems unclear to me. The more I research, the less I believe in viruses at all. At this point, all I know, is that I don't know shit. What ever the general consensus is, I'll be looking the opposite way for truths.

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Bill Devin's avatar

That was their best play of all; convincing the gullible and fearful that there was a unique and deadly virus in our midst, while anyone observing the impact of it in their own community could see it was just a normal cold/ flu.

I admit, even i held my community in higher regard than being likely to fall for that.

But, there lies another lesson from covid: don't overestimate the general gullibillity and fearfulness of a pampered society.

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Suzie's avatar

The entire DOGE Project seems to be distilling people into two categories.

One group largely consists of those who hold the belief that the government is some sort of giant benevolent creature, all wise and all powerful, that is always working for the good of the country.

The second group contains those who believe, that it has become a creature that has gone off the rails, much too big and bloated, and largely unaccountable to the actual American voter.

The revelations of waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money uncovered just thus far by the DOGE Project appear to overwhelmingly support the second group’s overall belief. It is an almost whole of government apparatus, that has been running amuck, spending taxpayer money like drunken sailors with literally zero oversight, and that considers itself accountable to no one.

Government - not just the US government- but all government, by its very nature, is not your friend.

Left to its own devices it will only seek to amass more and more power and control.

Our Founders wrote the entire Constitution for the sole purpose of constraining the government, but our own government has more than strayed from those constraints for decades upon decades.

The Congress itself, has long abdicated it’s ONE JOB: writing the laws, to an unconstitutional administrative bureaucracy that does what it wants, when it wants, without answering to anyone, creating its own rules, laws and regulations, even going so far as to be judge and jury over those rules and regulations. None of that is anywhere in the Constitution.

It’s way more than past time that our government was brought back to work within its originally intended, and very limited Constitutional scope and size.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

If you mean only a tiny amount of people think a video like Olbermann telling anyone that will listen ‘we are scared’, then yes, maybe only a tiny amount of people still look at that video and think it was justified. But if you think only a tiny amount of people think lockdowns, masks, and the jab were not only necessary but saved lives, I beg to differ with you. Perhaps it’s because I live in the Bay Area, but from my experience, almost no one other than some of my close friends who are Trump supporters know the whole Covid-19 thing was a grift. The overwhelmingly majority of Californians think nothing bad happened other than a pandemic. If I say Panicdemic, they won’t even listen to the next word out of my mouth.

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CK's avatar

It’s basically the exact opposite where I live in Florida.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

I think I’d notice a difference if I weren’t in the Bay Area. Places like Placer County, Orange County, most rural areas, the central coast, and parts of the I-80 corridor in central California are probably much closer to your demographics.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

I live in Sacramento, a couple miles east of the Capitol building. It was crazy here, but up in Placer County (where my parents live) and El Dorado County, sanity existed.

Every time I go down to the Bay Area, I'm still amazed at all of the masks. I was walking along the bay in Crissy Filed in January, laughing at groups of people masked up, walking their dogs, out in some of the best fresh air in the Bay Area. Ran a 5k in Golden Gate Park the next day and was shocked at the number of people who had masks with them.

My brother lives in Milpitas and he is a mask aficionado. The only time that insanity ends is when those folks pass away. I asked him at Xmas if he was going to be buried with a mask so that he would have one in the afterlife, like some sort of pandemic Pharoah. He was not happy.

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AndyinBC's avatar

I suspect that rural/urban dichotomy was evident in most of the world. The only masks we, saw in our very rural area, were on visitors, and government workers at their places of employment.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

It’s insane.

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Ash's avatar

Perhaps it just depends where exactly you are -- I spent three days in Oakland this month, downtown and the waterfront, and I don't think I saw a single mask.

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Pelopidas's avatar

Dear Mr. Gato, when you apply to Bezos to head his editorial board you may use me as a reference. You’re welcome. 😉

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Pi Guy's avatar

well, the yankees can wear mustaches now. maybe it's time for an all-lower case editor at the wapo.

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Tonya's avatar

"the drugs that were shipped were not the same ones in the trials"

Add to that, the drugs that were given FDA approval (not just EUA) were never available to the public.

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Susan Daniels's avatar

I was under the impression that there were never trials done before the EUA.

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Tonya's avatar

According to the FDA and the manufacturers, there were. And I have read accounts from people who participated in them, including those who were dropped from the trials so that their unfavorable data would not be included.

You may be thinking of the fact that they skipped some key steps along the way, like phase 2 trials that supposedly ran concurrently with phase 3.

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Tonya's avatar

Here is Pfizer's application for EUA, with results of trials.

https://www.fda.gov/media/144246/download

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David Dresden's avatar

The lab leaky theory is another Psy-Op. IMO the whole thing was a scam. It was the flu rebranded.

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Kay's avatar

The spike protein created in that lab is very real and has massive harmful effects. I never had to detox from the flu, but people who had not been vaccinated and had covid, even an extremely mild case, detoxed if taking NAC. Without some kind of detox, aftereffects of covid linger.

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George Wines's avatar

I started taking NAC about a year ago and have definitely felt and seen the difference cognitively. I got covid in August 2022 and never got the vax. My brain was in a fog, I now realize, for a good year and a half. I can actually remember things again.

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cltwilson1's avatar

When I got "covid" in the fall of '21, I had never felt flu symptoms like that before. The headache was strangely different, body aches that felt I was being crushed, and I lost my sense of smell. That was a first. Had to be GoF.

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kittynana's avatar

@clt (WIlson is my last name, too): I NEVER had chills like that in my life. Days. Husband, too (and he was shotted up. Got just as sick as I did). NEVER. Had it again in December and got them again but not quite as bad or for nearly as long.

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Barekicks's avatar

I agree. My mother had the original illness in March 2020 and it was unlike any illness she'd ever had. She's a retired teacher with a robust immune system and she was knocked out for 2 weeks. Didn't feel normal for 4. Hair was falling out for several months after.

When I had two bouts of omicron in 2022 it was 3 days of odd symptoms each time, which had never before accompanied a head cold. A friend of mine completely lost her sense of taste and smell for 6 weeks but had zero other symptoms.

To me this doesn't prove GoF per se but it proves that something out of the norm was circulating and that the illness was real.

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Perplexity's avatar

In Feb 2020, I caught a nasty illness which was vaguely IL, but significantly different from anything I'd ever had in my 60+ preceding years. I believe my PA saved my life when I came to her with a horrible cough, so much drainage that I had to sleep on my stomach to avoid sever choking, loss of smell and taste, the strangest "aches and pains" I'd ever had before. My PA was not your standard allopathic, checklist driven medic. She said I had a virus, atypical pneumonia in both lungs, and asked me if I preferred going to the hospital or treating at home. I chose home, thankfully, as many who went to the hospital here died.

My PA told me the usual virus advie (rest, fluids, C,zinc). She also prescribed for me an inhaler in case of sever broncho-spasms, 7 day titre-down dose of prednisone, and 2 courses of azithromycin to take back-to-back.

NOONE is going to convince that I had normal 'flu' or 'cold'. I have had many serious bouts of pneumonia from childhood onward, as well as 'flu' many times. This was very different.

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IceSkater40's avatar

I’ve had flu and I’ve had Covid. They are very different from each other. I don’t actually think the majority of what happened was a scam. I think public health got scared and once the training wheels came off the rest fed itself with out of control politicians and uneducated mouthpieces. The decisions made by politicians and doctors were bad. But that doesn’t erase that there was a virus that went around. It was the over the top response that was the problem.

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Perplexity's avatar

I have had both, and I agree, IceSkater40 .

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Martha's avatar

And what is this thing you call the "flu"? I trust Mike Stone @viroliegy that there is no virus behind that constellation of symptoms either. (full disclosure, I've had flu symptoms for the last 2 weeks. but I'm not blaming it on an invisible, transmissible pathogen)

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BFH3's avatar

Bezos... Libertarian and Free Markets.... Bwahahahahahahahaha...

He drives the clown car filled with all the other tech billionaires who are playing nice and waiting the current admin out until things are back in their favor...

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Tootslilfighter's avatar

Great piece! Things are happening so fast and in the right direction finally, it’s like the sun came out after a long dreary winter and spring is right around the corner. My stance on the experimental jabs wasn’t particularly intellectually rigorous but actually fear of needles based. Who said fear wasn’t a valid position? It certainly saved my bacon. I’m waiting for the day when the reality sets in for the sheeple and their rage consumes them. The entire thing was just like a Twilight Zone episode and I’m really grateful for this new day that is finally dawning.

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Laura Garcia's avatar

Careful though that you don’t let Musk and the tech broligarchy become the pied pipers that lead us into the digital prison. Action, reaction, solution has always been their game…..caveat emptor as to their long term solution.

They, the fin/tech oligarchs, love power over people. They are not interested in principles….don’t forget that. And I believe ultimately they do want to be in control….of us, because they think they know best.

Technology does little to add to the actual quality of my life….but I can count a number of ways that their progressive innovation detracts from humanity. But they refuse to acknowledge or consider that….pure hubris. And make no mistake, they do not live by the same rules or with the same technological malfeasance in their lives. They are above it.

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Barekicks's avatar

Yeah musk is a techno-utopian libertarian type who is happy to employ incredibly invasive innovations if he thinks they will make society more efficient or productive. I say buyer beware.

He only stood up to the trans stuff because it ensnared one of his kids. Without that personal experience it would be yet another blind spot and he'd be all-in on transition as a worthy undertaking to help humans transcend their bodily limitations.

Remember this is a guy who boasts about taking Ozempic/Mounjaro for weight-loss, thinks driverless cars are the future, wants to use brain implants to help people control action through thought (but this could easily be flipped), and believes there will be a Mars colony within a few decades.

He is not someone you want deciding the future of humanity.

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Susan Daniels's avatar

Do I hear "wolf" in the distance?

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Laura Garcia's avatar

Not sure I understand? Please clarify.

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The Green Hornet's avatar

Open the window? Nah, blow it apart.

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el gato malo's avatar

the overton window cannot be blown apart.

to do so would be to make all topics and all viewpoints socially acceptable. this seems neither possible nor desirable.

it's really about getting the window to be in the correct place.

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Rikard's avatar

Don't you get the feeling that since 2000, it's the "Overton periscope" rather than window, that we've been fighting for control over?

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AndyinBC's avatar

There's a meme in that concept!

Now if only I could draw...

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AndyinBC's avatar

For what definition of "correct"?

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Pi Guy's avatar

Feels like this should be an easy one but, alas, no.

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Rikard's avatar

An Overton-lighthouse?

Or Overton Panopticon watchtower?

Overton mountain top?

Something like that, where you can get a full 1060 degree rotation going.

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Pi Guy's avatar

Overton Panopticon is a little dark, methinks.

I like it.

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golftdibrad's avatar

And remove the wall where the window was.

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neener's avatar

In this day and age, how can anyone NOT see that government IS the problem? I guess there really are a lot of stupid people. An old mule trainer once told me, "You can educate ignorance, but you can't do nothing for stupid!"

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TRM's avatar

This is what our "Chief Public Health Officer" in Soviet Canuckistan was up to before COVID. Really inspires confidence doesn't it?

https://donaldbest.ca/bombshell-foi-emails-will-theresa-tam-finally-face-a-reckoning/

For three years, Canadian officials used Inuit children as guinea pigs for an experimental RSV Palivizumab vaccine* injections program – without parental consent and without the knowledge or involvement of the Inuit population.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Firing squad

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JustAPoster's avatar

Similar to Fauci subjecting foster kids to AIDS drugs without consent. The may very well hire these people from some weird public health cult where sacrifices to the public health gods are required.

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cltwilson1's avatar

🤯

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