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"we have now reached the “if you identify as covid positive, the world must respect your self-identity” stage of the pandemic." LMAO these people are completely insane.

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With no end in sight, and they keep doubling down. From a psychological perspective, it's fascinating to watch as it unfolds. Terrifying and horrifying, but fascinating nevertheless.

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We are the ones actually living in "interesting times".

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I completely agree.

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They know that at some point, most people will become weary and just give in, which is why they are so relentless. A lie repeated enough simply becomes true. Look how “climate change” is now just an accepted thing and is suddenly echoed everywhere.

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If this were a movie it would be fascinating. The documentaries that will come out will be just like documentaries on any other mass, horrible event. People will not understand how it could have happened. I guess that’s because we think the past is in the past.

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If at first they don't frighten the bejeezus out of you, they try try again. Sigh. Fortunately, more and more people are ignoring their histrionics about the evil covid bug.

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Funny how they don't accept your identifying as vaccinated. Or immune.

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I am immune to trying to fix

Their vaxxed states of mind

Impervious to health care authority

Let the dead bury the dead

Lol

I have so many like all of us who

Know people family friends who

Got vaxxed

I brace for sadness

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And that's what it is ultimately about -- self-victimization. "Throw me a pity party 'cause I gots the long covid."

"Oh, you poor thing"

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As my grandmother would say, "Bless your heart". Ironic, given the clot shots.

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They're also skilled at working it into every conversation.

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It’s all about me

I am universe ME

WELCOME TO ME

please pity ME

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Kinda Like the way some people Drive I AM THE ONLY 1 ON The Road Welcome to Planet ME.

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Omg too funny 😂 yes they will

And somethings are better left unsaid

Weasel in to their sexual position

A name you’d never forget

Dale Carnegie missed this trick

Lol

He said the most important word

Is someone’s name ( Heidi ;-))

Positions would be impossible

To forget

Still belly laughing

Hush dear they might hear

Glad I am living on another planet away from these snowflakes.

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Same with women I know with Fibromyalgia. 🙄

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I have known some too.....

Here's the gig....bc I am not a MD just a very curious cat and distill everything down to simplistic essence bc I am a Poet mainly. All disease states are inflammation. Inflammation is a state of mind...anger. Dr Linus Pauling gets a Nobel Peace prize for Vit C on the distensibility of arteries and veins and decreasing heart disease. Also there is research that shows that MSM derivative of DMSO used for Race Horses to decrease swelling so the horses can run more often...can be used for human consumption. I take Vit C and MSM I am 67 years old and most can kick ass on most 40 year old ...no brag just fact. so when some used to say Fibromyalgia......I get IT but damnit do something that helps....because non steroidal or anything big pharma has is not does not work.

I figure the answers are simple....sooo simple most people deny nahhhh it can't be that simple.

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Where do you find the MSM? --- FYI, I won't order online, unless it's a real company with a phone # to call to order.

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I get mine at the Grist Mill here locally. You can check with any Vet supply.....or Nutritional Vitamin place. I buy the bulk powder and buy the triple O capsules make my own. They now even have MSM

tablets.

And here's why I know it works...I developed Asthma, allergies, after a flu shot in 1986. Sick for a year could not even lay down to sleep....anyway

Started taking dosages of Vit C and MSM .....short while later up running and being my normal

jok self......even started smoking tobacco but gave that up......

I will go look at some research papers or articles from OHSU Oregon:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324544

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Thanks for the info!

I've read and heard about MSM, but haven't been able to find it around here.

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This. Long covid is the same as chronic fatigue, chronic Lyme, and fibeomaylgia. Vague symptoms with no objective tests.

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Poor poor me someone notice me

A narcissist that just can’t send a look at me I am on a yacht

But certainly can offer poor me

I got a shot

Now I am chronically long Covid

Not

Uggghhh does free will ever enter

Their minds

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So many of those long covid stories have a female saying "I tested negative, but KNEW I had covid in whatever month..." It is a mental disorder beyond the roughly 10% incidence rate of the usual post viral syndrome we'd expect

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My friend Micheline knew she had long-Covid, without needing a test, because she had suffered from "Covid finger" in the past, known as chilblains in the old days.

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Can I identify as negative if my fake PCR says positive?

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In other words 'It all depends"

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Positively funny ...in a negative sarcastic fashion. To answer your question IF you feel positive about your fake long kovid, then you can also feel that positivity toward your negative testing of the fake PCR test.

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Beyond insane…they cannot even question their own insanity. I can.

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Not certain the best strategy.......BE a mirror I guess...or just a walking Testimony to your own Integrity.. At a certain age you grow to NOT care what the F people think of you. The beauty of Age is to become yourself I thing Carl Jung said? I guess at 67 i have crossed that line.

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I’ve crossed that line as well. As I’ve heard: When you’re young, you walk into a room and worry about what people think of you. When you’re older, you walk into a room and question what you think of the people in the room. In my case, so true.

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I wished I'd cross sooner my Good Buddy an Aries he has always had this opinion...It took me some 65 years to get to. Late bloomer but now going to put into 5th gear

Liberating actually nuthn to prove and I want to know what makes people tick?

Age has many advantages,...vanity becomes secondary.

Born in 1955 came to counter bill gates born same year.....Guess I best get busy .....

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You bet vanity becomes secondary! Since the CONvid bs and being forced to retire early, I haven’t worn makeup for over a year! If you told me I’d ever do that, I’d say you’re nuts-LOL! It’s so liberating…it’s a “girl” thing. Lol!

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That made me LOL laugh out loud lol :-) yeah I gave up make up after KISS ....not really

glad no make up, no high heels, no monthly events, no other bitches to fight, Men have it so much easier.... but the fact is Men get pushed out of the womb and spend all their waking moments trying to get back in ....as Wayne Dyer said..."life long curse"

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Its Liberating actually. At a point I just remain curious and I want to know what makes People Tick...???

I was born the same year as bill gates ....he is my equal...or I am his direct opposite

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OPPOSITE! You’re too much of a love bug to be in the same room as that thing.

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Thanks ! I am learning to accept compliments. Part of my I am Good Enough, I deserve better new skin.

Stay In touch Renee. Its been a blast thanks for the laughs.

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LOL ...its very funny, bg...cant even give him the satisfaction of saying his name birthday is 10/28/55

Now my best Soul Mate Brother has the same Birthday. I have known this guy for lets do math..hmmm jesus 50 Years. I did NOT come to planet Earth to take any shit from this lil creep.

He is a "thing" too. ...when you realize that these evil people are well your same age you go

dude .....this must END,. I live for the day to see Justice served. 1955 I came to bear witness to see this man get what he deserves. Figure I got 30 years to go. Got time.

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I identify as a Blue Covidian with

Chronic kovid

But I have my identity !!!!

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"no pharma product should operate under a liability abeyance. ever. and especially not vaccines."

This single policy all on its own explains a huge amount of vaccine skepticism. On the one hand, it removes incentive for corporations to ensure their products work and don't hurt people. On the other, when one finds out about this, the immediate reaction is "wtf are they hiding?"

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precisely.

"so safe it must be absolved from liability" is not much of a sales pitch.

it seems like a recipe for "when" not "if" it will be abused.

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There are so many hands...that the metaphor starts to look like the Hindu goddess Kali...

( and like the Destroyer...each hand bears a sword)

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The image of Kali with a hypodermic in each hand superimposed on the Pfizer logo would be a powerful meme.

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Doggone! But...I'd hate to do that to the Hindu culture. Creative AF tho!

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Destruction of humanity and creation of a new, hybrid uber-drone?

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Kali at least is not a maleficent deity though. unlike pHarmaCo.

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True..true...she is both the Ceation and the Destruction...

It was more of a sight metaphor.

So many hands...each capable of harm...

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I kinda figured. most people who don't know about what she represents wouldn't even be able to reference her by name.

and yeah, she sure does look scary.

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I like strong female representation...I'm biased that way 😂

Since childhood I've delved into the world's mythologies and religions.

All my cats , over the years, get diety names...even minor types ( like Japanese Kojin) .

Thank you for saying Howdy like that!

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Did you know that the image of Kali was projected on the Empire State Building in New York in 2015? https://z3news.com/w/hindu-goddess-kali-projected-empire-state-building-nyc/

“Hindu god of death and destruction. The name of Kali means black, time, death, lord of death; she is therefore called the Goddess of Time, Change, Power, and Destruction. She is known as the “Black One”, or the “Dark One”.”

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Yup!...they are hiding ALOT!

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Among the trazillion things that perplexed me about this whole z-movie we're in is the absence of drumbeats of public-interest and malpractice law firms, when they'll ordinarily start trying to sign up people who might've gotten papercuts from opening the daily mail.

Why aren't they panting at the scent of so much fresh meat? Has there been some subterranean warning about firms losing licenses if they go in certain directions, 'cause there's always something to be blackmailed over, kept in the locked drawer?

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It Has started! Aaron Siri just won a class action on behalf of Healthcare workers, and the USAirForce is being forced currently to not punish its Religious Exemption protestors at the beginning of another class action...

It IS starting

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But it's like tiny selective pockets, and the vast not-a-special-interest general public is a goldmine entirely ignored.

There's no recourse for anyone saying "I just don't want it." Why should any airman need a doctrinal reason?

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Patience, my dear Fairy, patience... even the mighty Mississippi River starts as an insignificant trickle in the woods of Minnesota. The good news is that it is starting. Soon it will build, and there will be a clamor to drop the veil of liability protection, and see what lies behind the curtain. Then the mighty torrent will grow, and soon like Old Man River, it will be a breathtaking sight to see.

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Your typing fingers to the Cosmos's ears.

My faults, the biggest among 'em is a total lack of patience. I pretend it's the persistence of that ever-youthful feeling. That inner six-year-old, she's gonna be with me to the grave.

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Ha! That lack of patience caused so, so many to get the jab - so they could travel or whatever.

Why couldn't they have waited for one year?

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They don't add common sense to the Froot Loops no more.

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I understand, but sometimes the best things in life are worth waiting for. That does not make the waiting easy, though.

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Hence my addiction to them hot strong mugs of tea. I'd be real ragged without 'em.

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God is Good and the TRUTH will set us free!

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True, universe-level Karma would be the expression "Pfizer is the new Phillip Morris".

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When some win( and Siri is amazeballs) others have a template and also hope: we can do this!

They shouldn't...but...like many veteran friends of mine said " We took all the shots, because we signed up for this". They now feel harmed by being used as wholesale guinea pigs.

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Yes, it's quite remarkable that any nation should regard its fighting force as disposable like this.

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Well, if you are trying to destroy your armed forces, what better way? Force them all to take a toxic shot, and then discharge all who refuse. Voila! you have a bunch of woke weaklings...

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I was pretty shocked when West Point rolled right over. But I ain't observed no quality in the generals' club for an awfully long time.

I ain't much of a traditional values sort of girl. But the destruction of masculinity has always seemed to me, you know, batshit crazy in the scheme of things.

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Well apparently they're all psyop warriors and drone operators now, no need for actual physical fitness.

https://youtu.be/_uNPZKJqbE8

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Well, on the other hand, them Afghani Pukhtoons remain undefeated since Kipling's time, and they got themselves one hell of a Stone Age mindset...

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Yes! No one should need a religious exemption (unless that person says something like, my G-d gave me free will to exercise as I see fit). It should be enough to say, "because I don't want to."

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Agree, I believe there has been a lot of fear, even amongst lawyers, to be the first. I'm sure another factor is the legal industry being infected with woke activists like everywhere else. I can only hope that greed and the scent of blood will eventually prevail.

As has been brought up many times I wonder when insurance companies start to get involved. In particular, imagine the "long covid disability" claims.

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"...imagine the "long covid disability" claims."

Legislatures will force them cover it just as they're forcing them to cover cutting breasts off of 14-yr. olds.

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Yeah, I think you are right. They will raise our rates and we will continue to subsidize mental illness.

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I'd love to know what the insurers were guaranteed in return.

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Maybe nothing was needed, if there's enough woke activists in insurance companies now then they are just doing "the obvious, right thing". Who care about margins, that's so 1 month ago

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$10.2M award might wake them up!

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✝️

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Land sharks tend to swim in schools Sooner or later a case theory will be developed and proceed beyond the motion to dismiss and then alll hell breaks loose and then friendly courts and venues are found. Good times follow.

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'cept they preemptively pretty much colonized all the law schools, didn't they? Gonna take a heckuva lot of reclaiming of territory before that has a chance of happening.

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Having a son who graduated law school 2 years ago, I can tell you they are completely corrupt. Third year is straight up CRT indoctrination. My once quite conservative, Hillsdale undergrad, drank deeply from the kool-aid.

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Eventually life experience may somewhat remedy that. But rough for you in the meantime.

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Check out Jeff Childers' Coffee and Covid--yesterday he had a rundown of a couple of suits--some very good news, there.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-saturday-july-30

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Do we ever need some...

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Seriously. I was thrilled to see that one of the suits is about how the so-called "accommodations" offered to people who claimed religious exemptions (i.e., sure, you can work here unjabbed BUT you've got to test weekly and mask daily)--are discrimination. That is, to treat someone practicing their religion as having a disability that needs to be 'accommodated' was wrong.

I was all YESSSSSSSS, GO LAWYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Because the accommodations offered me were why I quit my job, I was all oh, hell no.)

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Right?! First time I'm rooting for lawyers!

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Parasites don't attack eachother.

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Ain't there competition in every sphere of existence? (I thought I saw an article the other day on parasites in bugs, so maybe worms in worms in worms...

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I asked a lawyer for help with fighting inj mandates and the reply was "I can't help you I do not share your views". I sent them back some instructions on how to detox from spike protein and wished them good luck. It was Dec maybe they will have reconsidered by now.

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What kind of answer is that? The whole point of acting as a legal advocate is that her job is to represent your legal interests regardless of her personal views. Most trial lawyers who defend murderers probably do not share the view that murder is all right, but that doesn't stop them from zealously defending their clients (at $425/hour billed in 6-minute increments, postage and copy fees extra).

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I was going to write a comment saying something like that, but then I realized lawyers must often pretend that their clients are innocent. This lawyer decided to pretend that the potential client was guilty.

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I can't even calculate the number of brooms we're gonna need for cleaning out those stables.

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I vote for the Herakleian (or Herculean) option: divert a river to wash it all out.

(In some tellings of that tale, the river deposits the 30 years worth of manure from the 3 000 heads of cattle into the palace gardens of Augeas himself.)

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Well see I want the guilty forced to do it, inch by inch, hard manual labor and no change of clothes provided.

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Unfortunately, anyone who appeared to be anti-vax or supporting anti-vax got fired from their jobs. And a lot of negative publicity that may affect their ability to get future work. So we cant blame people for not wanting to represent those fighting vaccine mandates. Everyone was too shit scared to.

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Once upon a time the ACLU could have been expected to step up and file lawsuits to fight the jab mandates. In fact, all the way back in the Before Times year 2008 they produced a report discussing the dangers of public health mandates and allowing government to suppress civil rights in the guise of fighting disease. The whole document reads like a prophetic warning against exactly what has happened in the last 2½ years:

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/privacy/pemic_report.pdf

"Too often, policymakers are resorting to law enforcement and national security oriented measures that not only suppress individual rights unnecessarily, but have proven to be ineffective in stopping the spread of disease and saving lives. "

But that was then, and this is now. In the current covid mass-hysteria the ACLU now argues bizarrely that vax-mandates promote civil liberties. What happened? Is the entire country really so paralyzed or disoriented by fear and hysteria that we have summarily abandoned whatever principles we once held?

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Bad education.

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Yes, they are.

It's like a mini version of Noah's Ark, where some are advising the coming harm and majority won't listen. Now we ride our ride of unvaxxed thru a sea of death and disabilities rising 🥺

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When the ACLU came out in favor of mandates, I thought, "the capture of the left is complete." The left left me. I could say I'm disappointed, but that would be too mild. Betrayed is how I feel, by all of the so-called "progressives", who have forgotten what it actually means to be a "liberal" -- i.e., suspicious of government and corporate power, especially when coordinated. Same goes for all my civil-rights-enforcing plaintiff lawyer buddies. All captured. I've lost respect for all of them. Their convenience (and fear) trumps their principles.

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I was informed not too long ago that people who think of themselves as "classical liberals" are really libertarians trying to soften the label.

I was not amused.

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Yes, it's important to remember that being a Good German is the default position.

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I went my whole life wondering how German citizens in the 1930s and 40s just sat back and allowed persecution and destruction to happen to innocent people, then Covid came along and I saw first hand just how easy it was to shut people up for standing up for what was right. I wish I had never had that lesson. Its terrifying to think that we have learnt nothing from the horrors of the past.

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Same here. I just couldn't fathom how the Germans let that happen. Well, now I know.

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Exactly the same for me. And it's always the same class divide. The academics, first to turn on the one who won't bend his neck. And always the humble people, who have within themselves extraordinary reserves of courage.

People are really, really thrilled to have permission to let their most vile instincts out. That's the secret. The official pat on the head.

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Lawyers can be just as stupid as the next guy.

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Well for one thing, the Trial Lawyers are overwhlemingly on the Left. So a class action suit against a faceless corporation is their red meat. But here its against the narrative.

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Maybe they learned from what happened to some of the lawyers who questioned the 2020 outcomes, to not represent the victim.

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Some of those lawyers were batshit crazy. Absolute discipline and focus was needed because it was always gonna be a longshot, and they kept shooting themselves in the foot instead.

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You've got a point there.

I mean, really, the "Kracken"?

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Problem in politics is everyone plays dirty.

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I got long covid. Both versions. The first was the 6 weeks of clearing that crap out of my system and recovering physically from a natural infection ( the not-just-a-cold variety). The second one was/is the mental one when faced with the realization of that officials and their lackeys shut down society for almost 2 years, coerced people into taking dangerous and ineffective mRNA transfections at risk of losing their livelihoods, inhibited early treatment protocols, pushed masks etc...and that the majority went along with it and villified those that didn't.

That's long covid.

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So true. I had a severe case of flu years ago. It took several months to get back to 100 percent. This is nothing new to experience after an illness.

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Same here. Had the flu in 2015 that knocked me on my butt (ended up, ironically enough, needing a full cardiology work up when I developed bigeminy and then erratic heart rhythm triggered by exercise). Took a good 9 months (and some time taking beta-blockers) to finally feel "normal."

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Exactly, my ex had a cousin who must have been in her 30s who had post flu heart damage. Unfortunately she did not survive.

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Didn't they used to call it something like, "Post-Viral Syndrome"?

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Long Covid is also a euphemism for Electro-Magnetic Stress.

I wrote up a case study before Covid was ever a thing.

You might be very interested to note that the symptoms are identical to Long Covid and, what is worse, they are accumulative.

https://hive.blog/news/@francesleader/electro-magnetic-stress-a-very-real-and-increasing-health-risk

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Thank you!

The dangers of RF are devastatingly unknown by the masses and once again greed sits of the core of this poor decision

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This seems appropriate here:

Ayn Rand: “But there’s always a purpose in nonsense. Don’t bother to examine a folly—ask yourself only what it accomplishes." "The Fountainhead"

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When physicians can't figure out what is going on, they love to blame anxiety. The motivated reasoning is insane to credulously accept the amorphous symptoms of "long covid" while dismissing vaccine injuries with clear constitutional signs as the products of anxiety. The safe and effective narrative is still holding strong thanks to the unlimited power of confirmation bias. I just met up with my mortician brother-in-law on vacation and he, without knowing my stance on this stuff, immediately started talking about the crazy ne'er before seen massive clots he's been pulling out of folks in the embalming process. He's still weighing whether or not to get the booster when he's due in a couple weeks. I suppose if anything can cut through the cognitive dissonance it is your continued incisive commentary and observations. Thank you for everything you do in trying to keep the world sane.

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He's still weighing???

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Yes. I haven't talked to him at length about it, but I will do my best to ensure that he is able to make an informed decision. It seems so painfully obvious for everyone that has been consuming a steady diet of alt tech/media from the start, but the nonstop barrage of propaganda is difficult to overcome. Keep in mind, social psychologists had a hand in deliberately designing this campaign to leverage every known cognitive bias to maximize vaccine uptake. That science has come a long way in the last 15-20 years and it has been startlingly effective.

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please continue. what are some examples of public health/media/CDC/etc leveraging known cognitive biases to convince people to be jabbed?

I don't know the field, but it seems to be that "social proof" and "appeals to authority" are being leveraged very heavily by the media and government.

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In my opinion, the most powerful technique used has been the leveraging of descriptive norms. In social influence, what you should do doesn't motivate behavior nearly as much as what people around you ARE doing. This is the reason high vaccination rates are continually highlighted. The other place this is prominent in the current environment is with polling. You would think they would be worried about their lack of accuracy, but that isn't the point anymore. You're absolutely right that appeals to authority were deliberately targeted. For a comprehensive overview of the strategy from the perspective of the enemy, the brief that the Social Science in Humanitarian Action Platform (SSHAP) constructed on COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy and how to combat it/increase uptake (for the greater good of course) in informative: https://www.socialscienceinaction.org/resources/rapid-review-vaccine-hesitancy-and-building-confidence-in-covid-19-vaccination/

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Thanks. I never knew about that briefing from all the way back in Nov 2020. It covers a lot of ground. I thought I would be rolling my eyes as I read through it, but I gotta give these social scientists a lot of credit for broadly understanding and accurately predicting the public's reaction to the vaccine rollout before it even happened.

Although the briefing was written to help governments convince the public to be Covid 19 jabbed and rests on the strong assumption that these jabs would be safe and effective (which many of us doubt), much of the briefing's advice seems reasonable.

e.g. Here are two sound pieces of advice from the briefing, which, unfortunately, were not taken seriously by the powers that be in the US:

"Exercise transparency as far as possible in trial processes. Clearly communicate information and data in accessible formats. Share trial protocols and results where possible (including explanations when adverse medical events occur). Share what vaccines are made of, and how they should work."

"Avoid coercive strategies as this can backfire by damaging trust, inducing hesitancy and entrenching resolve against vaccination."

If only the Biden administration, Pfizer, state governments, corporations and universities had heeded this advice!

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Yes, a lot of it is legitimate advice, but when it is predicated on the assumption that the vaccines would be safe and effective before this could've even been reasonably established, the concomitant recommendations to control the spread of mis and disinformation puts a nefarious twist on the whole endeavor.

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I think he is bewildered by it, but doesn't want to be maligned as conspiracy theorists for asking obvious questions. I can't know for sure until I get a chance to talk to him about it in more detail. I try to keep in mind that the dominant narrative was that if you promoted vaccine hesitancy of any kind you were essentially conspiring to murder people. I think we're approaching an inflection point beyond which the moral opprobrium of discussing vaccine injuries vanishes, but until then there will be people who are afraid to even talk about their own vaccine injuries.

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This is so INCREDIBLE to me I want to accuse you of making this up, which would be really rude...but it’s the same everywhere. HOW INSANELY GOOD ARE THESE PEOPLE at propaganda!!

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