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As you pointed out before, the numbers are junk most of the time, but I also wonder if we're seeing an increase in all-cause mortality, meaning the unvaccinated are dying of COVID but the vaccinated are dying of other things at a higher rate? I watched a video on BitChute by a doctor who said, as you point out, the vaccine drops the immune system like a rock, but that not only has implications for catching COVID but allowing latent viruses to get out of control or even latent cancers. Add in the blood clotting factor caused by the spike proteins (and the vaccine is *only* the spike proteins) and inflammation in organs, and you could see an all-cause rise in mortality, so, yes, the vaccine might keep you from dying of COVID only to have something else get out of control because of the immune system drop and kill you. So the vaccine is a plague on the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, and we're all screwed, and I'd like to pop Fauci's little head right off his shoulders.

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I also have heard of anecdotal reports of increased cancer cases in vaccinated group, in media and from talking to a physician. I know of two people whose previously undetected cancer manifested as an aggressive stage soon after vaccination (one person died within 2 weeks of vaccination with J&J). If this trend is true, it would make sense considering the 2-3 week immune suppression that could facilitate rapid progression of underlying cancer.

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BINGO we have a winner. Special note about the Financial Times chart which Twitter users are using to call people who question the vaccines "mentally deranged" etc. As Gato very specifically notes, the chart is purposely started after the run from the foxhole to the bunker has been completed. Absolute filth in regard for the truth.

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This is highly interesting to me as my father who has rheumatoid arthritis was vaccinated in March/April and now has stage 4 lung cancer. Even though every year previously they xrayed his lungs and that came back clear.

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I'm very sorry to hear that. My sympathies.

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Thank you.

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Keep his records. All of them. I believe a Nuremberg 2.0 type trial is coming to bear. You might not be able to get them easily. Have him request them now so you've got them. Maybe he can request the records through his DOD and have that in his file, ensuring they go to you. I'm so sorry this is happening to your father and family. Sadly, we are now required to be the vigilant ones, rather than the entities these poisons have come from. I hope they'll be able to keep his cancer at bay.

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He passed in December. The VA in Florida probably has the records. Not sure my mother would be willing to request them. Thanks for your reply

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I'm so sorry. I know the grieving going on right now. It's a hard road to travel.

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Listen to Dr. Ryan Cole; the fallout of post vax deaths is truly stunning. These ill conceived, toxic mRNA gene therapies, which may, after the two week death zone post administration, may well lower your risk of dying of Covid, absolutely skyrocket your risk of dying from cancer, heart attack, stroke, diabetes, autoimmune dysfunction, and a host of other problems.

Look at the DOD data presented by attorneys Tom Renz and (Todd Callenden?) before the records were altered---we have a 1000% increase in multiple death categories in the vaccinated troops, heading towards a 5000% increase, according to their information from whistleblowers.

There is NO doubt that vaccinating into the middle of a pandemic with leaky vaccines creates a catastrophe. This is basic epidemiology, and frankly anyone with a decent high school or college education from back in the days I was in school, (1970s) would know so.

And, this new technology is sending those toxic little nano lipid particles into most of your vital organs with trojan horse mRNA instructions to force your own cells to manufacture the highly toxic spike protien from the Wuhan, computer uploaded by the CCP!

Good Grief, Charlie Brown, what could go wrong with that idea?

Your heart tissue starts manufacturing toxic spike protiens, your immune system attacks your heart. Myocarditis. Heart Attack. Death. Watching the footballers die on the field or be carried off of it clutching their chests has been painful.

I could go straight down the list of all the shocking post vax, known, expected, and now playing out across the formerly "Free World" injuries post experimental, forced, coerced, propagandized, indemnified, and socially shamed shots of gene therapy toxicity.

And finally, the bio distribution studies show that this nasty little scientific creation has an affinity for the ovaries and the testicles.

All those malleable and naive millilenials lined up like sheep and jumped. What will their fertility, already crashing before 2021, look like in the next decade?

And, if this spike protien and it's genetic instructions combine with our human DNA permanently, what will the children of those who succeed at having them, look like?

My daughter, at 26, took the forced vax to stay socially current and not harassed at work. I am frightened at the prospect of grandkids whose DNA is programmed by Pfizer.

God protect us. Humans just aren't all that smart.

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Two people I knew died suddenly from cancer. One just 45.

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Actually, Dr. Ryan Cole (Wyoming) has openly stated that cancer lab results are up by over 20%. He was removed from youtube and other media.

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I think he claimed 20X (2,000%), not 20%.

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Idaho, actually. A good scientist. Persecuted, even here.

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A friend reported to me that 2 people in her circles have come down with multiple myloma. One of them was young, like late thirties.

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It’s a common pharma problem—win the battle but lose the war. Lots of drugs use the surrogate end point as proof it works but don’t look at all cause mortality. Cancer drugs especially.

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Surrogate end markers. The scourge of missing valid end points. There is already a push to use antibody response as the surrogate end marker for vaccine efficacy. Like that'll turn out fantastic.

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it is a common for profit, wag the fda pharma problem.

my experience in weapon testing: fda is worse than dod, and fda has a revolving door just as the pentagon alums....

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I am so pleased that these brilliant people on substack are now speaking up for Mortality and Morbidity as being the correct endpoints for ANY trial...not infection.

Bravo! Please keep repeating this..because our excess mortality and mobidity stats are FRIGHTENING.

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Graphene hydroxide. Cuts like a razor. Endothelium goes bye bye

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Why is that in there?

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because these "vaxxines" are bio-weapons

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Dr Andreas Noack was killed asking the same question. https://seemorerocks.is/german-whistleblower-dr-andreas-noack-was-murdered/

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You are right they will never tell the truth! here is why! https://twitter.com/JessClarke007/status/1428041586332557316 https://archive.ph/KQAGn

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I am pretty sure you are describing Dr Ryan Cole of Cole diagnostics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SPKRIVJHcc

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Get in line for the head-popping.

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I'm afraid I agree with your theory. I've been worried about this for months...based on instinct rather than data or theory. After shutting down the world in 2020 because asymptomatic granny killers were spreading contagion and hurting us all, they have created legions of asymptomatic granny killers through their "vaxx the world" campaign. Ironically, many grannies may have become granny killers.

I am more worried and more cautious this year...despite a less virulent strain and more community immunity. I never put much faith in the vaxxines.

So, I recommend that all unvaxxed (and vaxxed) familiarize themselves with prevention and early treatment protocols, create a C19 go-pack, get some ivermectin and HCQ...if you can, and find out where mAbs are given in your area and by what criteria. Also, connect with a PCP who will work with you to stay out of the hospital.

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All of these doctors have treated C19 patients with great success from the beginning of the pandemic. There is significant cross-over in their treatment protocols. There are other protocols as well. Pierre Kory and Peter McCullough both testified before Congress last year.

Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, MD

https://vladimirzelenkomd.com

Dr. Peter McCullough, MD

https://aapsonline.org/mccullough-protocol-3-page.pdf

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If you are looking for a source of Vitamin D3, Vitamin C, Zinc, Quercetin, or EGCG, I recommend the following site.

https://www.koshervitamins.com

You can also find NAC (N-acetyl-L-cysteine) on this site. I've read that the FDA was threatening to pull NAC off the shelves last year and reclassify it as a drug after decades OTC. You can no longer find it on Amazon. NAC is a precursor to glutathione, which is made by the body. It is thought to help with energy stores in fighting infection.

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Rainbow Light has multiple formulations of Vitamin D3 gummies. I've taken them for years. Kids love them...even grown up kids.

https://www.rainbowlight.com/our-product/gummy-vitamins.html?format=657

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I have not been able to secure HCQ. According to Dr. Zelenko...Vitamin D3, Vitamin C, Zinc, and Quercetin work synergistically to drive zinc into the cells and interfere with viral replication. He was looking for alternatives for HCQ after NY State and Cuomo cut off access.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd3JYN443oA

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Ivermectin is on most of the protocols that I've seen, including the ones linked above. There is great demand for it despite the horse dewormer PR psy-op. Many pharmacies refuse to fill prescriptions. Many doctors refuse to consider it. Most hospitals refuse to administer it. Just last week, news broke about a Vietnam veteran in Texas who died in hospital after a judge denied his family's request to order the hospital to administer ivermectin. This man had a prescription for ivermectin from the VA but had not had a chance to fill it before he was admitted to the hospital. If this can happen in Texas, those of us in blue states are screwed.

I've been on a waiting list to get a tele-health appointment for Ivermectin prophylaxis and early treatment for a couple months now. A couple weeks back, they sent an email letting me know I was still on the list.

I made an appointment...and paid for it...with another outfit. They took payment and acknowledged my appointment. I'm supposed to talk to the doctor on Sept 20...so far, crickets. We'll see.

A friend of mine was able to get a script filled with this outfit, but it came after she had recovered.

https://www.pushhealth.com/service-request/ivermectin/1683?state=Pennsylvania&fbclid=IwAR20zhs6q_dYLAyYm0dMd_nBFRr600Jn7rr-BsEnTZpo9m8zU4K6B3BFw48

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I recommend you get an at home fingertip pulse-oximeter. Remember all the talk about "happy hypoxics" last year. I also recommend you get a baseline oxygen level before you get sick. Pick the best finger (my left ring finger works best). Remove nail polish or moisturizer, which can interfere. These at-home devices are not state of the art, but they can help.

I bought this one on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Innovo-Fingertip-Oximeter-Plethysmograph-Perfusion/dp/B07YVGZPRZ/ref=sr_1_7?crid=38HSIAQRCNJL6&dchild=1&keywords=pulse+oximeter+fingertip&qid=1631820342&sprefix=pulse+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-7

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If you can afford it...and you think you're high risk...get an oxygen concentrator. I've been tempted many times over the past year. They're very expensive.

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IMO, the goal is to stay out of the hospital. Once admitted, you and your family have no control. Most hospitals have treatment protocols that include Remdesivir, which even the WHO does not recommend.

Aside from exercising appropriate caution wrt big crowds and crowded small spaces, I recommend all people...unvaxxed and vaxxed...consider preventative nasal washes/sprays and mouthwashes to cut down on viral load or wipe out early exposure.

I just started using XLear nasal wash and nasal spray. The nasal wash contains Xylitol, Sodium Chloride, Sodium Bicarbonate. The nasal spray contains Purified Water, Xylitol, Saline, Grapefruit Seed Extract. You can find it on Amazon and iHerb, but the inventory is spotty.

An article about XLear, grapefruit seed extract, and the SCV2 virus...

https://www.aestheticsadvisor.com/2021/09/xlear-nasal-spray-covid-19-study.html

The actual study preprint...

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.02.408575v3.full

The FLCCC early treatment protocol recommends a commercial 1 % povidone-iodine nasal spray. I have not found a product that fits this description in the US. It may be available in other countries. Personally, I'm a little worried about using this kind of solution longterm as it may affect thyroid function and injure the mucosal tissue. I would consider this if I had a confirmed infection. They have a recipe for a home-brew in the protocol.

Here's some information about nasal washes/sprays and C19...

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.16.21262044v1

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2775984

And, fyi, I've been to the dentist a few times during the pandemic. My dentist requires everyone to use a peroxyl mouthwash open entering. I believe this is recommended by the ADA. I'm not aware of any outbreaks connected to a dental practice, which is remarkable.

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As an aside...for years, I've struggled with rhinitis. I have no discernible allergies. First, I was a Neo-Synephrine junkie. (I just checked; they still make it). Next, it was CoricidinD. Then, I turned to rx steroid sprays. Then, rx Patanase...which was very expensive even with insurance and, well, let's just say it didn't help...it hurt. What can I say, I'm a delicate flower.

Both of my children had allergies and asthma, so I was introduced to "the nasal wash". I confess, I was horrified. The doctor recommended the squeeze bottle for children because it is easier to use. Since my kids would only use a nasal wash when congested, I'm not sure it did much good...although it was a great source of amusement for them. I did get a bottle and try for myself. It brought back memories of being tossed about in the waves at the Jersey Shore right before being slammed into the sand...not good memories.

A few years back, in desperation, I tried a neti pot...a much more pleasant experience. It won't hurt. It might help. And your sinuses will be sparkling clean. FYI, never...never...use tap water...never. Never.

My $0.02. I hope it helps.

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The constant post nasal drip and stuffy nose may be a benefit. We dont know. I mean that mucous has all sorts of immune stuff in it. Including antibodies. It may be protective? But hey - I like alot of what you have said. I'm a physician and I was able to secure Ivermectin and HCQ before all the controls went into place. My IVM dose is probably too low. A bit of advice -- try going to a mom and pop pharmacy - or a herbal pharmacy. They will frequently make preparations and may have some IVM.

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Dr. Kory, Dr. Marek discuss compounding ...saying yes it's as good. Not if a compound pharm in china or such though. India or US, they say aok. Friends of mine just had covid, used their compound Iver, and are aok. Not all compound pharm will do it. One very popular one in my area, is saying "they can't get it". Bullshit. Another 5 miles away can. They lost a ton of customers, news travels fast.

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Yes, a "compounding pharmacy" may be able to get around prohibitions.

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Can you give those of us also using IVM a little more on why you think you you are underdosing? .2mg per kilo seems to be the basic standard?

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May I ask your dose and frequency? I have the 1% liquid injectable that I obtained from a feed store. My understanding of dose is 1cc per 50kg body weight.

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Go to Barnhardt.biz for dosing with the 1% injectable. There is a ton of information and protocols as well.

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Thx, I was wondering.

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I just follow the FLCCC (Dr Kory) protocol.

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Oh and the ENT physicians in our hospital were using a nasal irrigant of 1% betadine in all of their surgical cases during the covid outbreak. They petitioned the hospital for use with all covid patients but were denied.

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Yes, I just received a bottle today (10%) so I mixed it with saline and put it in a nasal spray bottle - it seemed to help. The article I posted today (Mercola's article) had an indepth description of the study. Also Dr. McCullough said recently that it is going to be part of his group's protocol for treatment.

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Thank you!

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I am unvaxxed, working every day with total vaxxed adults. They are now coming down with unspecified influenza and what the UK is terming the cold from hell (sorry my quotation mark key is dead). upo to 4 weeks they are sick, and couging and sneezing and their lungs hurt. But they test negative for covid.

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I've read about the "cold from hell". I wonder when we'll know what impact these jabs are having on innate and adaptive immunity. I think it will get worse with each "booster", but the sheep are lining up. :(

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Well I think Ive caught the cold from hell, despite high Vit D blood levels, prophylactic ivemectin, etc. Unless it was something on the tip of the PCR swab yesterday. (mandated testing for me). I also wanted to say cmpalmer75 that I too have thought that these vaxxed are now asymptomatic carriers, and I lost a best friend over voicing this thought. But doent it make sense? The shot reduces symptoms, but doesnt stop transmission...voila- walking asymptomatic spreaders? Anyway loved your comment.

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Hope you're feeling better soon. :)

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Just to let you know, turned out I had a piece of fluff stuck in my nose from the damn swab that was jabbed up there for the pcr test. In less than 24 hours I must've sneezed it out and was just fine. Still neg PCR.

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Yikes. That sounds awful. Glad you got it out. I purchased at home antigen test kits to avoid the PCR tests. Do they have them where you are? You can control where the swab goes. My daughter, who works with children, has been sick three times inside five months. There's definitely a lot of non-C19 viral stuff floating about. Hope you're feeling better soon.

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Excellent list. For the *quinine/HCL drugs, Cinchona bark powder is a possible substitute, though I understand one has to be very cautious about dosage. I bought some on ebay some time ago, and it's still available.

I've bought NAC from Pure Bulk before, they still have it up for sale, and a large variety of supplements and vitamins, pill makers, etc.

https://purebulk.com/products/n-acetyl-l-cysteine-nac

Xylitol sinus spray and ear drops are shown to reduce occurrence of ear infections in children, so it's a good bet it's a good preventative all around for kids and adults. Xylitol syrup is also shown to prevent tooth decay in children. Do yourself a favor and make your own. I've been using my own homemade xylitol spray for sinus conditions for a long time. Recipes are easy to find, it's just sterile water, xylitol, and baking soda for spray, xylitol, water, and an optional flavoring for syrup. Imagine getting a spoon full of liquid candy to prevent cavities when we were kids! I think using a neti pot with plain saline is probably better than nothing. I sometimes use it after being around crowds. I don't do neurotic sanitation rituals, just vitamins B & D and I haven't had a cold since this all started.

I don't recall where I found the link to this Indian pharmacy

https://www.medicinesdropshipper.com/antiparasitic-drugs.html

I seem to recall it was at one time up on the America's Frontline Doctor's website (I could be mistaken), though their page doesn't currently list internet retailers.

America's Frontline Doctors, where to get Ivermectin

https://covid19criticalcare.com/guide-for-this-website/how-to-get-ivermectin/

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Very good write up. I am doing exactly the same thing. I also have olive leaf extract, black seed oil and elderberry in my supplement mix as well. All to reduce inflammation or help keep your cells healthy and strong.

If you make the povidone iodine with saline at 20:1 ratio, it’s great for when I know I’ll be in crowds.

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thanks. a friend who is into herbal medicine suggests Chaga Mushroom Tea (Skataggen). all this will help with flu and colds. and the zelenko protocol if you need to fight it.

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Thank you I cut/pasted your comment. I too am ON it regarding treatment. I used the FLCCC site in May, chose a doc on the How to get Iverm list, at that time no prob getting it from my local CVS. FLCCC covid19criticalcare.com has a Pharmacy tab now, due to Pharmageton post Joe Rogan's success with it a month ago. It's possible to get it folks.

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Unfortunately not in Canada!

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Customs in your jurisdiction is your problem, and I didn’t run a QC on what I received, but FWIW. I haven’t died yet, so, it must work.🤗

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Thanks! I'm in the States now so it is easier to find.

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LOTS cheaper than FLCCC net. Order the max amt for friends or those in need.

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Is it legal into the U.S. without a prescription?

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Quercetin, Zinc, learn what you need to be/stay your healthiest ever. Apple a day.. Quercetin is in the skin! All kinds of good facts to learn. D super impo and your weight. AND try try to get Iverm .. somehow. Mailed?

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I hate to recommend this, but it does work at a last resort:

https://www.1800petmeds.com/Bimectin+Paste-prod12160.html

Veterinary Ivermectin can be obtained at nearly any farm store. Just make sure it is Ivermectin only with no other active ingredients. The nominal dosage per bodyweight is identical to equine usage, but FLCCC recommends a dose that would be one tube in 5 days, 250lb dose per day if infected.

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The liquid injectable is also available at feed stores. Get the 1% kind. 1cc per 50kg body weight. Its bitter, so mix with water or juice.

https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

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I wish. has disappeared from my farm store it is not available for the regular price anymore on Amazon...too bad, I think it works and it tasted fine..like apples.

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Thanks, but no way to mail - we seem to be in a black hole. A friend of mine was able to order it from a pharmacy in India (through an Indian friend) but it was stopped at our border. However, I do take quercetin, zinc, and NAC every day, so not suffering :-)

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I hate to recommend this, but it does work as a last resort if infected:

https://www.1800petmeds.com/Bimectin+Paste-prod12160.html

Veterinary Ivermectin can be obtained at nearly any farm store. Just make sure it is Ivermectin only with no other active ingredients. The nominal dosage per bodyweight is identical to equine usage, but FLCCC recommends a dose that would be one tube in 5 days, 250lb dose per day if infected.

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I counld NOT have witten a better comment....'nuff said.

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Great job presenting fantastic advice. Can’t go wrong with any of this. I have ordered IVM and also some multi drug packs for covid from offshore sources. Ordered more than one shipment at significant expense to hopefully avoid interception at customs. I was not afraid last year but this winter looks to be shaping up to be far more dangerous. We must all prepare.

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We can't get ivermectin in the UK (unless you pay £200 for a private consult with a private doctor in the Channel island). This link was published on a lockdown sceptic thread - online pharmacy in Canada I believe: https://www.reliablerxpharmacy.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Ivermectin

Sone one I know ordered some from India from here: https://www.ziverdokit.store/product-page/ziverdo-kit

and it arrived fine but without a box. The manufacturer reference/Indian health regulator number checked out but obviously it's can be worrying to have to order medication from anywhere on the internet.

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I ordered ivm from ziverdo about the beginning of August. Got it in about 6 weeks. Also there is another site buy-pharma.md however I have mot purchased anything from them so can’t vouch for it. I would prefer not to take the “horse paste” but in a worst case scenario probably would. Also I use Himalayan sea salt for a mouthwash/gargle and nasal spray. I have no data on this its just anecdotal info from my own experience. It also clears poison ivy up really well 😂

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Thanks. Definitely worried about ordering outside the country without a script.

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Trump suggested using disinfectant but was laughed at for it. Hydrogen peroxide is a disinfectant.

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Yes, I saw it. You can download the article as a PDF to your desktop, but I don't think the links work.

The first paper I linked above wrt recommends the conventional saline wash with no special additions. You can find most of the products in Walgreens, CVS, etc. And remember...never, never...never...use tap water for nasal wash. Never.

https://www.neilmed.com/usa/index.php

I have Dr. Brownstein's book. He does not recommend the people use nebulized H2O2 without a doctors supervision. He's very clear about it. The last thing you want to do is introduce pathogens via nebulizer deep into the lungs, especially if you are already ill. Finding a doctor who will help with this is another story.

This study just came out in preprint. They claim that nebulized hypertonic saline solution is effective against SCV2 virus.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8281484/

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Where would you get hypertonic saline solutions?

Re nebulizing H202 (Food Grade), I've been doing it for almost a year - and I know a number of others who do as well. We use the exact prescription that Dr. Mercola/Dr. Brownstein recommended. I use it before and after being out with other people. Just another way to keep the viral load in the nose down. Also have ordered some xlear which is also highly recommended.

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I have the same problem - something's got to help. Looking forward to getting the Xlear.

Yes, this looks like something I used as the saline part of the H202 formula, so only added 1/4 tsp to one of those packs. It has really helped my nose and my lungs. (It's currently unavailable as are most things that look like they will be of help with 'C'.

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Thanks, I got the Xlear and used it this winter and still use it occasionally. It totally cleared up my sinus problems (10 year problem) and it was a quick goto after being in a crowded situation.

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I am using it prior to my pcr test.

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tx!!

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Great info. Thanks!

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I see three problems if this is true;

-too many politicans have pinned their entire careers on vaccination.

-corrupt medical practitioners fudging the numbers to get the outcomes they desire

- all the billions of dollars tied-up in the vaccine programmes.

I doubt there will ever be an honest reckoning. Too much money and power tied-up in it all.

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Sorry, but still don't see how one can be convinced vaxes have reduced deaths in at risk groups. While we can be grateful to England for the PHE vaxed/unvaxxed data, it's clear that this data is riven with potential confounders and is not nearly detailed enough.

Still, if for argument's sake one accepts 'reduced deaths' as a fact, does this mean 'reduced C19 deaths' or does it mean 'reduced all-cause deaths'? If it's not all-cause deaths, particularly among the elderly and at risk, then the entire vax argument becomes moot. (As it does for many medical interventions in the vulnerable or elderly.)

Personally, I believe that the 'vax everyone, even the kids' movement is looking more and more like a frantic effort to muddy the waters and destroy all possible control groups, for all possible outcomes, before the ultimate reckoning.

This vax 'em all movement, combined with the rampant unreliability of US health data, will probably force serious researchers to look at countries other than the US to ultimately understand what happened during the past two years, and to figure out why it happened.

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From everything I've read, the "vaccines reduce deaths" is that they have a small but measurable effect in reducing death from covid.

They are pretty clearly increasing all cause deaths, despite that very temporary claim to the contrary last winter.

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There is no doubt in my mind that the push is on to eliminate all control groups.

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Good way to eliminate the control group scumbag hesitators (*sarcasm). Because its not their vax status they really hate, it's their critical thinking and innate resistance to lemming-like behavior. Can't have that if you are trying to turn the world into a globalist socialist hell-hole. I would say one other possibly workable hypothesis is testing artifacts. As this phenomenon of vax causing increases in cases/hosps/deaths becomes more and more plausible, watch them come out and try to blame it on false positives. Wouldn't that be ironic.

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This is an eminently testable hypothesis that can be explored by examining regulatory T-cell responses (or other immune tolerance responses) following vaccination. To date, I can find no evidence that anyone has done this, but I would hope that it will happen in the near future, and the results will be illuminating.

Tolerance is not an on/off phenomenon but rather a wide spectrum ranging from the complete immune acceptance of most of our own proteins to the extreme reactogenicity of a serious peanut or bee sting allergy. Tolerance mechanisms can coexist with immunity mechanisms, such that tolerance begins to become apparent as the level of neutralizing antibodies declines. And to be clear, I am not hypothesizing that the genetic Covid-19 vaccines function by virtue of inducing tolerance. It has been well-demonstrated that they induce a strong neutralizing antibody response. I am instead suggesting that they may *also* be inducing partial tolerance, and that this effect may help to explain strong protection against severe (immune overreaction) disease, high rates of illness transmission in high-vax areas, and possibly also significant declines in immunity after 4-6 months despite continuing high antibody levels.

If indeed the genetic Covid-19 vaccines are inducing partial tolerance, we can make certain predictions:

1. Genetic vaccines will be extremely effective at preventing severe disease, but much less effective in terms of preventing infection. (True)

2. As vaccine immunity wanes, protection against cytokine-storm-type severe disease will be maintained. (Seems to be true)

3. As vaccine immunity wanes, vaccinated people will increasingly carry and spread the virus, and population-level viral prevalence will rise in areas with a high uptake of genetic vaccines. (True) Vaccinated people will be more likely to be asymptomatic carriers. (True, https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext)

4. This will lead to a significant wave of illness transmission which will disproportionately affect unvaccinated people (who are not protected against severe disease). (True right now across the US and much of the world)

5. Booster shots will further increase tolerance, leading to an increased level of disease prevalence across the population. (True in Israel)

6. As immunity wanes and new antibody-resistant variants emerge, vaccinated people will be more vulnerable to long-term/chronic infection with high viral loads. Due to the protective effects of tolerance this will likely manifest not as typical severe Covid-19 illness (pneumonia, ventilators, cytokine storms, multiorgan failure) but rather as spike protein toxicity. So we should watch for an increase in clotting, strokes, heart attacks, myocarditis, neurological problems, etc. Vaccinated patients dying of these conditions may not be tested for Covid-19 and so likely will not be counted as covid deaths, and the myth of vaccine efficacy may persist based on the original definition of “preventing severe Covid-19 disease” even as we experience a wave of mysterious illness and death. Furthermore, vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to other infections due to regulatory-T-cell mediated general immune suppression. Should ADE develop, with non-neutralizing antibodies facilitating enhanced infection or direct infection of immune cells, tolerance could well lead to further exacerbation. However tolerance could also provide protection against cytokine storm-type reactions and accelerate the evolution of SARS-CoV2 into an endemic human pathogen, so the long-term effect of tolerance is uncertain.

7. Contrary to the shrill claims of the fearful, vaccinated people will present a much greater danger than unvaccinated people in terms of asymptomatic transmission and evolution of new variants.

8. There are likely to be significant differences between the vaccines. In particular, the two-shot series would be expected to induce greater tolerance, and possibly also greater tolerance will be evident in countries with a shorter interval between the two shots. Countries that utilized inactivated-virus vaccines are probably less likely to see tolerance effects, although they may still encounter ADE or other problems down the road.

This hypothesis presents a scenario of vaccine failure that first appears as success (because tolerance prevents severe disease), that explains the trends currently observed (unexpectedly high illness rates in high-vax areas), and that potentially portends a troubling future without invoking the still-hypothetical ADE.

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Hm... Tolerance is still not wholesale immunocompromise. I don't see how even with spike tolerance you get to viremia without inflammation from the cellular destruction; plus there's immunogenic N proteins etc. There's so many other signals besides the spike protein. It should still lead to pneumonia. Not sure if that makes it same problem or worse; can't make it better.

Moreover, while I totally agree with your framing of the blended immune response, I don't think it leads to boosters causing the blend to *shift* in favor of tolerance. The cycle of ramped-up antibodies, gradually recovering cellular immunity (after being depleted to clean up mRNA-generated spike), then infection, just goes on forever.

You have convinced me of one thing - for the unvaccinated, there could essentially no longer be "waves" of higher exposure to SC2.

But I'm not worried about that making us sick more in annual rates (maybe just a one-time elevation throughout autumn). Problem is, respiratory viruses are supposed to be seasonal. Now you have me worried that the real tolerance threat will be among the unvaccinated, whose immune response just switches off at a certain point due to literally constant exposure (that's on top of the scary possibility of the vaccinated somehow expressing spike, and what kind of immune response that is generating).

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"Hm... Tolerance is still not wholesale immunocompromise. I don't see how even with spike tolerance you get to viremia without inflammation from the cellular destruction; plus there's immunogenic N proteins etc. There's so many other signals besides the spike protein. It should still lead to pneumonia. Not sure if that makes it same problem or worse; can't make it better."

That's a good point. Tolerance should not prevent illness. However if it blocks the ADE-like cytokine storm that is characteristic of severe Covid-19 we might see a clinically-different presentation of severe illness - vascular damage or some other symptom might become critical before the appearance of pneumonia and low O2 saturation.

"Moreover, while I totally agree with your framing of the blended immune response, I don't think it leads to boosters causing the blend to *shift* in favor of tolerance. The cycle of ramped-up antibodies, gradually recovering cellular immunity (after being depleted to clean up mRNA-generated spike), then infection, just goes on forever."

That depends on how rapidly tolerance decays relative to antibody declines - and/or whether tolerance reaches a level at which it can no longer be "boosted." A perpetual cycle as you suggest seems equally plausible.

"Now you have me worried that the real tolerance threat will be among the unvaccinated, whose immune response just switches off at a certain point due to literally constant exposure."

As long as the virus still causes an adaptive immune response (i.e. against N protein) in the vaccinated and is eventually cleared, there should still be waves - although the temporal dynamics of the waves might change. Also I'm not convinced that constant exposure to an infectious virus to which one has immunity is likely to induce tolerance and loss of immunity. To my knowledge this didn't happen e.g. to doctors who spent their careers treating acute Tb or polio patients with constant high-level exposure.

Thanks for engaging with this hypothesis. I've had a sense lately that even the "alternative" sources are missing something important, but I don't have the audience to be heard, and I'm far from sure I'm correct either.

I came across this from another comment here:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/idaho-doctor-reports-a-20-times-increase-of-cancer-in-vaccinated-patients/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated

Here's a scary thought: This is exactly the sort of thing that might result from an genetic vaccine-induced tolerance response. If millions of cells suddenly have an altered proteome - expressing spike protein and generating an auto-attack immune response - then the immune tolerance mechanisms are going to send a message to the killer CD8 cells: "Stop killing cells with altered proteomes." Which could easily lead to a situation in which cancer cells slip past the immune system. We'll have to see if other doctors start reporting a similar uptick in cancers.

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That's a good point - not just doctors but all of us are constantly harboring "pathogenic" bacteria, that are easily kept in check as long as there is good microbiome health, and constantly reencountering polio and other enteroviruses.

Since SARS-CoV-2 also replicates in the gut, it is simultaneously being overseen by our most sophisticated "immune lab."

I still worry. My neanderthal immunology default is always, "Mess with the natural pattern, mess up the immune response."

Cancer via tolerance, or cellular immunity exhaustion - either seems mistakable for the other in the short term. Tolerance could imply a much worse long term result, though - perpetual cancer formation, system wide.

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IMO ADE is not the thing to worry about. it is ADH

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What is ADH?

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antibody dependent hypersensitivty

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All predicted by Geert vd Bossche, jj Couey, Dan Sirotkin, Walter Chesnut

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I need to catch Covid quickly before it gets even more deadly.

Anyway, this is even more frightening:

CDC shows excess death week ending Aug 21 is 13,512. Worldometers shows US Covid deaths during that week at 7,495.

Why 6,017 non-Covid excess deaths? Are they vaccinated people who died of Covid but they assume died of other causes because they were vaccinated? Are they vaccinated people dying of stuff caused or exacerbated by the vaccine?

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I’m with you. I want naturally acquired immunity. I can’t bring myself to intentionally expose myself to an ill friend or family member. ( like people did in the past to expose kids to chicken pox ) But for some reason, I have no antibodies yet and I get tested every two weeks by PCR so my stepchild can come visit his unvaccinated step-mom. I’m a nurse practitioner who won’t get vaccinated so I’m not working right now. ( colorado has healthcare worker mandate). ☹️

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Stay strong Jools. My wife and I both got the coof Dec'21. While we had that kind of relieved feeling, having been exposed multiple times previously - and glad to have natural immunity now (no jabs either), the experience came with a handful of atypical and disquieting 'symptoms'.

The problem with catching it "naturally" is that there is still plenty of reason to believe the bug is quite unnatural and thus presents all matters of things that are not easily isolated or understood.

The last few years have been fraught with all kinds of spiritual, emotional, psychological, and physical noise. Myriad inputs, almost all of which putting negative pressures onto our general well-being.

So, while I am not necessarily of the "long covid" sect, our experience with the illness presented some strange and lingering effects that are either related to all that other noise, part of the wicked constellation of bioweapon after-effects, or some combo.

My point is that we just don't know the costs associated with the acquisition of 'natural immunity'. It might be that being pureblood AND somehow not contracting the virus is still the best combo going. All we can do is continue to take complete ownership of our health and well-being and avoid the sickness in all its variants, biological, social, political, etc. as best we can.

As for CO, my roots are in the mountain west and I am deeply saddened by how far these lands have been converged into the prog death cult. For me, the long march of Progress was as predictable as the fraud of Covid, but sadly like Covid it will likely take a great suffering to awaken those under its spell - and then of course it will be too late for many. Godspeed.

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Maybe you have T cell immunity which would kill off the virus before you even develop antibodies.

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| I need to catch Covid quickly before it gets even more deadly.

Been thinking the same thing!

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I asked this question above, but COVID drops the immune system and compromises certain immune-system cells, cells which keep viruses and cancers at bay. It also causes severe inflammation and clotting issues. So what you could be seeing is people who may have bought protection from COVID at the cost of allowing some other illness to overrun their bodies. They don't die of COVID but they die of the vaccine, only it isn't officially connected because doctors aren't looking for a connection.

A video form BitChute. I know nothing about the doctor, but it makes a horrific kind of sense, especially if you're seeing excess deaths that aren't from COVID. https://www.bitchute.com/video/jm2euik7MlCV/?fbclid=IwAR0bdouOTMIJRyZifWXib0One-nYHQhUes_8qwSis0uuSwp8m5PjgbWdzpc

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My understanding is that this doctor is very credible. He recently popped on over to Puerto Rico along with Robert Malone, Pierre Kory, and a few other big guns to sign the San Juan Declaration (you can read about it here: https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/the-san-juan-declaration-and-a-new). The declaration is meant to help fight the corruption regarding the pandemic.

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Dr. Ryan Cole of Cole Diagnostics in Idaho. He's triple board certified and Mayo trained.

https://independentdocsid.com/RyanColeMD

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another video of Dr. Ryan Cole confirming what has just been said about increased cases of cancer - apparently he runs a large testing company and is discussing the statistics he is seeing

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/idaho-doctor-reports-a-20-times-increase-of-cancer-in-vaccinated-patients/

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This has been an issue since the start of the pandemic. Excess deaths get recorded before Covid deaths do, so there is a 'lag period' whereby it seems there are "unexplained" deaths, but chances are those will get rolled into the Covid death count once they've been characterized accordingly.

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The hypothesis makes sense. The assumption that there is more asymptomatic spread now. Begs a question: Will natural infection confer long lasting immunity, even against future variants targeted towards the leaky virus? If this is true, and we're rapidly infecting everybody.. then this will self resolve soon. Sure would be nice to know if I've had it and not known it.

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That is the question. I got exposed early on, couple weeks of symptoms, but not all that bad. But in my experience this does not confer total immunity. I believe I have been exposed numerous times since, same symptoms but severity and duration of symptoms much reduced. I like to think of these minor episodes as my SC2 wild-type booster. I also eat well, exercise regularly, high D3 intake, copious amounts of red wine and garlic. So far so good. Just went through my wild_type Delta variant booster episode. Lasted maybe 4 days, minor symptoms. Had my doc do a d-dimer out of curiosity, normal. I believe there is hope for even middle aged folk like myself, just stay healthy, and away from the hospitals. Keep Calm and Carry On.

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I too experienced almost exactly what you did. But the first time was definitely the scariest as I had no idea what was going on. That was back in Aug of 2019 so I also think this thing has been around way longer than they say. Like you I work out 4x a week and eat well/get all vitamins and minerals needed/make it a point to eat lots of garlic/onions, turmeric, D, magnesium, zinc, etc. Sidenote: why has this all of a sudden become un-hip? When you harp on the importance of diet and exercise, people now look at you like you're insane. As it turns out, you truly are what you eat, and sadly, most people in the U.S. abuse their bodies daily and then wonder why they're sick all the time. Literally, the stuff that people eat is actual poison. I too experienced a flare-up with the Delta variant but as you said, don't panic, breathe deeply, utilize thousands of years of natural remedies and keep it moving.

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Someone on the "bad bluebird" site posted this in a reply. The regular antibody test is faulty as antibodies fade, but they can test your t-cells it looks like. People who went through the Spanish flu had t-cell memory of the flu 100 years later. So this seems like the more accurate route. https://www.t-detect.com

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It won't resolve if they keep rolling out vaccine mandates. This will become a neverending nightmare until people's spirits are so crushed they will beg for more shots, just so it "all goes away." We just saw this as it began to wane, mandates were lifted, and now all of a sudden people are wearing masks again? Just like that? The whole thing is completely absurd.

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i just want to know how to support your work. can't see here on substack where i can send any kitty kibble, treats, or toys. patreon? even bad kitties deserve to have a can left out now and then, considering the excellent rodent cleanup job you're doing.

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Great idea!

Also - can someone perhaps start a GiveSendGo page where money is collected as a prize for the first person/team to disprove El Gato Malo's hypothesis?

Sort of like the "run windows on mac" challenge from 2006*? Will also perhaps get more attention to this very worthwhile movement for good? Pretty sure there are pro-vax people who would be itching to prove this wrong if there's a chance to win some money and dunk on the anti-mandatory vax people? I'll be willing to give the first €100?

*=It was when Houston shipping broker Colin Nederkoorn decided to formalize the challenge. He offered what started off as a $100 reward and solicited donations to up the ante for the first demonstration of Windows running on a new Mac. Eventually nearly US$14,000 was donated to OnMac.net.

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What would make this even more insidious is proposed mandate conditions where the vaccinated are not regularly tested. Already in many areas the unvaccinated are tested disproportionately to the vaccinated. In my area in-classroom workers are tested 4x per month vs. 1x for the vaccinated.

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This is precisely what Dr. Bossche predicted would happen, with mass C19 vaccination, in his open letter to WHO in March of this year. "Vaccination" = increased and more virulent variants affecting younger populations.

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Some of the vaxxed have prior immunity, so, sure, the jabs “work great” for them.

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Naughty Kitty, to propose such a thing! The problem is we are not seeing excess mortality spikes in Euromomo for UK or Israel or at least not much in the latter. The US on the other hand is right back to last summer as you show.

Hypothesis: they're killing people in the hospitals still. Mechanism.

1. seasonal covid illness hits about the same time as last year.

2. whether of or with, people report to hospital with respiratory illness … mostly old and infirm in lockstep with rising summer epidemic.

3. hospitals refuse to treat until patient is so ill they are ready for their vent.

4. vent blows out patient's lungs and kills them, hospital collects medicare bonus $$

5. excess mortality spikes.

6. summer epidemic wanes, hospital visits wane, venting wanes, mortality declines.

7. Rinse and repeat this winter.

If you do not put in murderous hospital care as a risk variable, you cannot explain patterns in deaths at least not entirely.

Yes, we are murdering people … by administrative policy. Stop blaming the little people, vacced or not.

Naughty Kitty!

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Vent and remdesivir, extremely toxic drug which has exorbitant rates of kidney failure. Kidneys fail, then what happens? Lungs fill with fluid. Compounding the problem is using AI diagnosis rather than human in many cases. I can’t link to the article but read one recently about how this AI diagnostics is “imperfect but still learning). Being in most hospitals increases your odds of dying dramatically. From the officially sanctioned treatments. And early treatment and effective treatment like on the FLCCC site is simultaneously being denied patients. I’m sure the extra money for COVID deaths to hospitals has nothing to do with their murderous protocols.

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I think you’re right. I’ve been worrying about this possibility for a while now. The question is, what on earth can we possibly do about it? Society is already in danger of crumbling due to the pressure on the vaccinated to shun the unvaccinated. Now that we are the minority, how on earth could we avoid vaccinated people and I can only imagine the further division that would cause. If some entity wanted to destroy our civilization I can’t imagine a more insidious way to go about it. God help us all.

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It’s time for the vaccinated to stand up for the right principles of non-discrimination and bodily sovereignty. We have to stand together. Because yes, this is a coordinated assault on humanity a la The Great Reset.

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Geert Vanden Bosshe has been warning about this for at least 8 months, https://youtu.be/BNyAovuUxro

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