You have done GREAT WORK to show this pattern. More "vaccine", more illness and misery.
At this point in the pandemic, infections and severe illnesses are driven by REinfections, not by new infections, and reinfections are mostly confined to the vaccinated.
Sadly, large demographic changes will soon occur due to Covid becoming like AIDS, a repeat or chronic illness in the vaxed that is taking down their already damaged immunity.
The smart vaccinated people need to consider moving to low vaxx areas, to be protected by a wall of unvaccinated people with actual immunity still working.
"The smart vaccinated people need to consider moving to low vaxx areas, to be protected by a wall of unvaccinated people with actual immunity still working."
if these theses pan out, it's FAR too late for that in the US.
Interesting how Africa, with very little access to mRNA vaccines is very much Covid-19 free. Could it be the Ivermectin that so many Africans take prophylactically/weekly to prevent malaria and other diseases ? OF COURSE NOT !
It’s the demographic. Young population. Very few elderly people in poor health which is the happy hunting ground for CoV 2. The same is to be seen in other poor Countries - and they don’t have care homes to act as CoVid slaughter houses.
If only we understood this, all the lockdown/mask/vaccine nonsense would not have happened or continue.
When covid first hit Africa the 'young population demographics' compared to westernized nations was touted as the answer for why there was so little incidence. When comparison was done between regions within Africa that included IVM in their prophylactic protocol (for treatment of other diseases) vs those regions within Africa that did not include IVM the data showed a substantial difference. Was this due to IVM treatment? (The areas that provided IVM had low rates of covid while the areas that didn't had high rates) Perhaps yes, or perhaps there is another confounding variable - but there was no difference in 'young population demographics' between the areas - so this can be excluded as a possible explanation.
That’s a good link. I forget about him. He was soooo marginalized if I understand what happened way back when. But he’s still relevant to this fight. Probably more so now than before when he was “only” trying to raise the alarm on other vaxxes that kill less than 200 per year. Now we’ve got 24,000 per year and counting.....
Many many people have postulated same and it almost certainly is a factor, BUt the debunkers are right on one thing, Africa has huge confounding variables, hard to prove why c19 is low in those areas. Eg Sunlight and open air, influence vitamin D levels.
Melanin in the skin reduces sunshine caused Vit D so Africans should have higher CoVid shouldn’t it?
But: Europe, USA higher (real) cases and deaths and and these mostly (90%) with average age around 82 plus one or more medical conditions. It is clear it is a virus of the elderly, it is clear the elderly population in Africa is a small fraction compared to Europe, USA.
The factor that makes CoV 2 a killer isn’t present in Africa.
Exactly, many confounding variables. While I accept your science related to Black Africans, not all are totally dark skinned. Plus I still say Americans are in doors so much we’ve been proven to be Vitamin D deficient in most cases. I wonder what would happen if we tested the black Africans in Africa? What their D levels are?
Absolutely Nicole ! Funny how there's no news coverage of that is't it ? the Mennonites are non-mRNA vaxxed and have little to none Covid-19 episodes. So... their example as a test group... sure seems to support that the repeated infections and deaths among the triple vaxxed reflects back on the mRNA 'gene therapies'... mistakenly called 'vaccines'. Thanks for bringing the Amish up.
Yes and that shouldn't affect the unshotted as we have a working immune system which will handle whatever comes along just fine. The reinfections for the shotted, who are filling up the hospitals will never be our concern or problem other than the fascist edicts resulting from that insanity.
Wow. Really? Pretty myopic. Many of us have loved ones who had to take the shots or were duped at first. Then there's the fact that so many chronically sick people and kids will need care. Families will lose breadwinners, fertility will be crushed, this has societal ramifications even for those of us who did not inject ourselves. It should be taken off the market, not just voluntary.
Actually, the unvaccinated have a problem as well. It's shedding and transmission. The vaxxed are shedding & transmitting the spike protein and the nanotech items. Bad news for all. And anyone who exchanges fluids (kissing, intercourse) with a vaxxed person has that crap inside them big time (sharing fluids). Maybe soon, it will be recognized that it's the mRNA vaccines that are the real problem. Not the stupid virus !
Is there any hard evidence for shedding and that it's an actual risk for the unvaxxed? There's lots of anecdotal claims but I've yet to see any actual hard evidence it's a real threat. Plus it's not contagious and can't cause replication, unlike the actual concept of "shedding" from those vaccinated with a live virus vaccine.
Taking in small quantities of spikes from vaxxed people likely does have some very small risk. It's comparable to taking up any other toxin in a miniscule quantity that our bodies routinely clear. We aren't turning our cells into spike factories (like the vaxxed) nor are we having viral replication (like the infected). So it's inherently self limiting.
We need to keep some perspective here or we risk ending up like those in hazmat suits paralyzed in fear of the virus. Yes, don't take an experimental novel genetic therapy for a virus with a minimal risk. But also don't live in fear of those who did based on some theoretical possibility of shedding with no hard proof.
Agreed. I’m dreading going through another booster shedding season. I avoid the recently vaccinated as much as I can but I have no choice at the gym where they shed like crazy.
Fortunately the unvaccinated immune system is not fixated on one bit of protein so can quickly adapt. The issue is not infection - we all get infected with umpteen pathogens on a routine basis and never notice if our immune systems are working as they should. When the immune system is loaded down with CoV 2 mRNA baggage, then the infection becomes disease.
This is why unvaccinated hospitalisations and deaths are way down, not because they are nit being infected, but because they can easily neutralise the infection. Prior exposure to the whole virus probably helps too.
Another issue is that increased transmissibility via the vaxxed is bad for everyone. We will all get exposed more and mutations happen quicker, meaning we can catch it again once it mutates enough.
I'd be careful here. If there is such a thing as "herd immunity", there perhaps also is the inverse of that: An overall abnormally high viral load overbearing an immune system that has evolved to work fine within a crowd of a majority of people with reasonably functioning immune systems - which then is no longer the case here.
The blood donor surveillance data from the UK Health Security Agency revealed that the vaxxed do not have antibodies to the nucleocapsid at the same level as they do to the spike protein, and the anti-spike antibodies are probably recalled vaxx antibodies that are not effective against new variants. The aggregate data has been rising slowly over the past few months, but the numbers remain low in the older age cohorts. Unfortunately, the vaxxed may need to endure several infections before they have something resembling durable protection..
I am saying this in a way that is actually as a huge fan of the state though I do not live there...West Virginia has a fairly "low" vax rate, relatively speaking. I visit there often, and love going. Friendly people, living normally.
I wonder what could be done to mitigate. My spouse is in medicine in CA and thus boostered. Probably will be forced to have another by September the way Newsom sounds. I had one of the poison injections before quitting my job. Oddly enough we have yet to catch it despite me being out and about maskless, same for the unvaccinated kids.
Mitigate: follow same protocols as with c19 itself. Cf FLCCC protocol. Especially anything that is supposed to mitigate vascular, cardio, intestine, sexual and brain health. Many many nutraceuticals. I like Dr Huber’s substack also. No offense to Dr Bruce Patterson (Doctor to many vaccine injured and seems like a nice guy) but I don’t trust doctors who throw Pharma at problems without at least first trying nutraceuticals that will cause subsequent side effects. ALL things, natural and big Pharma CAN have side effects but it’s extremely rare for a natural to harm in a way that is permanent or harsh, usually you just discontinue. So I’d trust Dr Huber (naturopath, check her very intelligent substack) before I’d trust Patterson.
On my end I am in control group, never had c19.
I’ve used 70 nutraceuticals, many for joint issues but many seem to have anti inflammatory properties which help with most concerns. For c19 and mitigation, I would recommend melatonin in high doses (1 mg per kilogram, yes it’s a huge amount, but even small amounts are helpful, cf Ray Sahelians (MD) blog, raysahelian.com for melatonin facts, he’s got a good site on jabs too. And Mercola had great info on the cellular impact of melatonin. Also turmeric I.e. Curcurmin (sahelian and mercola also), NAC (Mercola and FLCCC), vitamin D, vitamin C, quercetin, DGL (deglycerinized licorice, I think Mercola and Shallenberger, another naturopathic doc have published the links to why it helps), anything with Rosemarinic acid (internet search should have the pubmed article I found on that), CoQ10 for hearth health, dandelion leaf (which I haven’t used but have heard it can be a c19 fighter), any mushrooms for immune strengthening, zinc of course (Mercola had a great recent article about amount of zinc and fact it can deplete copper(esp if too much), selenium, EGCG.
I’m sure I left out something.... check FLCCC, website, especially if your husband is skeptical of naturopaths, they are MDs. Mercola is too.
Oh, zinc must always be taken with one or more of: quercetin, EGCG, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, because these are zinc ionophores. However ivermectin and quercetin have some sort or interaction issue, FLCCC posted it, those two shouldn’t be taken together.
I also personally believe in Zyflamend, a very expensive product but available many places. Look up, all natural.
Oh, that must be so hard, my heart goes out to you... My partner and I differ on a huge number of issues, great and small, but I am daily thankful that he, at 78, is onboard with me on this. We would both choose death before the vax, we both take supplements, etc. Have you pointed out to your spouse that even milk has Vit. D added to it?
Med school taught him supplements are quackeries and you get enough from diet and sun. He spends very little time outside; way too little for meaningful D levels. My guess is he’s at or below 20. You can’t lead the horse to the water…. Sigh.
My hubby follows his kidney doc who tells him Vit D is bad for kidneys. This doc is in her kidney silo. I show him studies that even with mild kidney issue good levels of D over 40–60 plus does not harm and is helpful for prevention of disease but he won’t budge on any recommendations from me—I’m 74 yo healthy as a horse had a mild 3 day Covid and unvaxxed. He got JJ. But won’t get a booster anyway.
Love Zyflamend, works great for my arthritis, but just too pricey. I go with turmeric and black pepper. Also butcher's broom, saunas, and anti-inflammatory diet. My sister was Mercola's biggest devotee but then denounced him when he came out against the vaccines. Interesting how she was so much smarter than he was.
Mercola has long been anti vax so he was an easy target for the other side. At least he seems to have plenty of money. I doubt it’s hurt him a great deal. I personally find him a wealth (no pun intended) of info especially at explaining the mechanism of action of various nutraceuticals.
It's incomprehensible to me that my sister, a nurse married to a nurse, who followed Mercola religiously for years and held her MS at bay by following his suggestions, and who would not even vaccinate her kids against polio, etc., much to our family's dismay, should throw him under the bus because she got sucked into the Fauci machine. Just baffling. Brainwashed, is all I can think.
I doubted it too when I read it but found it only in one place, FLCCC. Whoever writes or maintains their basic info (Kory?) linked to something they implied was Paul Mariks Own research or something he himself had discovered. It wasn’t dangerous, the research simply showed quercetin made ivermectin not work or vice versa. If it’s not there anymore maybe the original findings were wrong?
Don't know about that, but I do check the vaccine records when I see high grade cervical cytology cases. Nearly always vaxxed. FYI, I expect to see a push to vaccinate everyone to "prevent" oropharyngeal cancers. ENT docs have mentioned this in tumor conferences lately.
Shingles are age-related too. I got a relatively mild case in Jan. 2020 at 70. (Vitamin C 16,000 mg./daily evenly divided doses at onset; no lingering aftereffects).
I wouldn't touch Gardasil with a 200ft barge pole!! A woman's got a greater chance of dying from the 'vaccine' than from cervical cancer (now remind me, what is this 'vaccine' meant to be used for? Oh, it's meant to stop cervical cancer, that's right).
And when it uses the Meningococcal injection as a 'placebo', well, the only reason Gardasil looked good was 'coz more people died in the 'placebo' group than the Gardasil group!! The joys of an aluminium-containing 'placebo'. Stay far away from this one if you know what's good for you.
How can they, "Gardasil" was withdrawn in the US . This is just quick google: " While the other two vaccines - the original Gardasil and Cervarix - are still used around the world, BOTH HAVE BEEN VOLUNTARILY DISCONTINUED IN THE US
(for reasons other than those related to safety or efficacy) 20 Sept 2021.
I know there is more to it, did more research a year ago but, can't remember the sources.
Btw, as you probably know, there are many meds that are "not allowed" to sell let's say in the US but, are sold and use in many countries.
Thank you for this sentence. My 90 YO mother who I BEGGED to not get these shots just revealed to me that she did, 1st shot Nov 2021. And for the last 2-3 months having issues with her Rheumatoid Arthritis acting up in an odd way - effecting her cornea. No other changes in her joints, etc. She has a "melting cornea". Yes, she is 90. But of course I wonder... did "spike" increase/exacerbate this cornea problem? My guess is yes, but I'm a pessimist.
the type 1 ifn effect the vaccine has on uc is interesting (https://doi.org/10.1093/ibd/izac031). ive only looked at diabetes a little bit, would be interesting to explore if other autoimmune conditions are similar pathway. the other interesting idea might be cause the vaccine is based on wuhan strain if wuhan strain is specific to type 1 ifn and if delta and other strains vary by ifn preference. just thinking out loud not making any claims.
My relative said that none of them got COVID, so he is a firm believer in the jab. But in the next sentence stated that he was recently diagnosed with type 1 diabetes out of the blue 🥴. He was triple vaxed.
Yes. People often miss what's right in front of them!! Sometimes I don't know whether I want to laugh or cry!
But it's quite awful how all these health problems that people have lurking under the surface are being brought out by the covid injections. Imagine what the health system (if anyone still wants to call it that!) is going to be like in a few years, let alone 6 months: Utterly. Crippled.
Unfortunately a lot of people seem to be more than willing to accept the idea that The Virus, or its latest variant, is to blame for every illness since 2020. Their authority figures tell them it's Covid, (and those selfish people who refuse to get injected), and, by their silence on the subject, insinuate "the science" would never consider the mRNA concoction.
Heaven forbid that people have any sort of self-responsibility ha ha ha! It's so much better to blame someone/something/anything else rather than search for and read the actual Science instead of the drivel the media & govts push on everyone.
16 years as a health professional has taught me that most people do seem to have some idea as to what they're doing wrong, but 90% of the time they're too darned lazy to do much about it. So as Igor has insinuated, it's really no surprise that humanity is in this pickle right now...!!
I got COVID, followed the FLCCC and Fleming protocols and it was basically nothing. Two restless nights was it, and that could have been cured with some NyQuil.
@Curtis- husband, shotted with 2 Modernas, and I, no shots, both got it last November. Both real sick but did not need hospitalization. We used DayQuil and NyQuil, drank broth and ate Jello because neither of us was really hungry, slept a lot. We got over it although I'm suspecting I have lingering....things.....can't quite put my finger on it. Taste still not 100% and I've had a sore throat and swollen glands for a few months now. No, I haven't been to my doctor because he treated me as if I got what I deserved when I had Covid because I refused to be vaccinated. Funny, he had nothing to say about husband who had been treated for a blistering transient rash then myocarditis a few months before we got sick. Gee. It's as if he didn't want to admit I was correct about the 'vaccines'.
I had a slight fever one evening and a runny nose for a couple of days. But lost taste and smell. That was January before jabs started around me. I had an antibody test the next October and had good report. I will never get those evil things. I’ve been around vaxxed and boostered who got Covid but I have not. Some of my friends are experiencing worrying symptoms. One has raging autoimmune hepatitis that requires medicine that causes diabetes so she is on daily insulin shots now. Several others with odd blood reports. One with chronic lymphatic leukemia. My sister has one sinus infection after another now. Ear infections. Chest infections. A mess. I despair.
The virus itself, therefore the vaccine spike protein has extensive mimicry with certain diabetes linked/insulin proteins. Plus a lot more. I have forecasted the rise of diabetes almost 2 years ago. Have some posts about it.
I was reading a paper on the bloods of a (small) number of subjects injected (in China) and after the jabs quite a few things went amiss in a number of bodily systems, but over time, the only seemingly permanent change seemed to be that the markers for diabetes were increased. My hubby got the link from a post by Steve Kirsch (which you would therefore know about, but for other readers not on his substack, here's the link):
If this study could be replicated on a larger scale it sounds like widespread diabetes is going to be a 'thing' (among others...). I would just expect Type 2, not Type 1, that's all. But if there are going to be heaps more adult Type 1 diabetes diagnoses, then something deeply disturbing is going on. Well, let me clarify: something deeply disturbing IS already going on! It's just going to get a whole lot worse.
According to some, Covid-19 was just a excuse to create hysteria so that all the hysterical folks would clamor for these mRNA 'gene therapies'. It sure seems as if Covid was a scare tactic and the never used on Humans before mRNA technology was the 'destination'. Sadly, those who are double and triple mRNA 'vaxxed' are not doing so well health wise. And some claim that recent studies show that the mRNA 'vaxxes' DO alter our DNA. If true... a Brave New World is upon us.
mRNA vaccines have been used in humans, at least in clinical trials, for over a decade, but as delivery devices for cancer immunotherapy, where the risk/benefit analysis is pretty well-defined.
To be clear... mRNA 'gene therapies' are not 'Vaccines'. They are patented as 'gene therapies' because that's what they are. No mRNA injectable is a 'vaccine'. Until the CDC changed the definition recently... a vaccine had to contain a weakened or dead piece of the antigen. So if mRNA tech was used for cancer... it was not as a 'vaccine'. I guess it was used as 'gene therapy' ? And how did it work out ? I suspect not very well ? See link #3 @ < https://www.C-19truth.com > . Stay Healthy...
Absolutely. Until September, 2021, they were not vaccines. Medical devices, I suppose, though they were referred to as vaccines prior to that by some investigators. It's not a dead topic in oncology, as there are quite a few ongoing and upcoming trials. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8047518/. But, as I implied, the risk of an experimental therapy when your condition is already terminal is much more tolerable compared to when your condition is currently good health, and the condition you are treating is unlikely to affect you long term in any way. And don't take this the wrong way coming from me, I don't think big pharma has a much better record when it comes to cancer therapy. Most of the time these are not curative therapies, rather than something that buys an elderly patient six months of progression free survival, or something like that at an exorbitant cost and loss of quality of life.
We don't hear much about the adenovirus vector "vaccine" anymore. I don't know why. Live adenovirus vaccines have also been around for decades, and used by the US military. They have never been FDA approved, because adenoviruses are known to be oncogenic. The virus used for the J&J vaccine, of course, is nonreplicating. One of the genes responsible for replication has been removed. I understand this vaccine uses a simian adenovirus. I don't know much it has in common with human adenoviruses, which surround us every day, just like coronaviruses, causing respiratory and gastrointestinal infections. In vitro, non--replicating adenoviruses, such as the one used in the vaccine, can recombine with a wild-type adenovirus and regain the ability to replicate. I wish I had a link, but I was reading this way back when I was deciding whether I was going to receive either of these shots, and that was what sunk in. What happens to someone who has a replicating adenoviral capsid in their own cell nuclei with the job of manufacturing spike protein? I don't know the answer to that, or the probability, but it sounds pretty damn bad.
In one of the first 20 or so (IIRC) sessions of the German "Corona Committie", they had one, geneticist I believe or other qualified _seeming_ person, who claimed that the cheap mass production method for the mRNA jabs is sloppy compared to the lab products used in the study, and that one consequence was incomplete conversion of the DNA that they apparently have as source, into RNA, and such remainders could then possibly get into your DNA, or produce replicable "garbage" cells out of half baked stuff... from my very rough memory. Does that make any sense? IIRC also, the person claimed that was a known thing that Pfizer reported to the EMA, they knew about it but not much fuss was made.
In the last 2 months I came across two fully jabbed people who were diagnosed with diabetes AFTER losing 30-40 pounds. Neither was pre-diabetic beforehand. Both are baffled by this turn of events.
Let's not be too quick to dismiss bad lifestyle, poor environment, or other factors. To some extent, SARS-CoV-2 like (according to some) HIV and many other viruses is an opportunistic pathogen. Some victims may simply be more at risk due to poor choices (e.g. obesity is a major risk factor for Covid-19) as much as other factors influencing immunity: environment, genetic predisposition, etc. . HIV is "officially" the virus that causes AIDS, but the problem is that many people with symptoms called AIDS show no trace of the virus. I don't think this is the case with Covid, however.
If the [mRNA] jabs really do depress immunity, then it would explain a lot of that, wouldn't it...?
Are there stats out there that can be used to compare the rates of these developments due to infection vs due to vaxx? As far as I am aware this is all anecdotal at this point correct? (If this is being tracked I doubt any data is publicly available)
Maybe it will be as rare as breakthrough cases of Covid? A home nurse was seeing my mom after mom broke her hip. She told me a similar story, a patient of hers was recently diagnosed with type 1. I think she said the person is 47.
Type 2 is adult onset, due to acquired insulin resistance. Type 1, which this 60yo claims to have, is normally childhood onset and is due to pancreatic autoimmunity.
You have done GREAT WORK to show this pattern. More "vaccine", more illness and misery.
At this point in the pandemic, infections and severe illnesses are driven by REinfections, not by new infections, and reinfections are mostly confined to the vaccinated.
Sadly, large demographic changes will soon occur due to Covid becoming like AIDS, a repeat or chronic illness in the vaxed that is taking down their already damaged immunity.
The smart vaccinated people need to consider moving to low vaxx areas, to be protected by a wall of unvaccinated people with actual immunity still working.
"The smart vaccinated people need to consider moving to low vaxx areas, to be protected by a wall of unvaccinated people with actual immunity still working."
if these theses pan out, it's FAR too late for that in the US.
they'd need to move to africa.
Antarctica is lovely this time of year.
I thought a fully vaccinated research team tried that and still got the virus. ;)
I thought it was because they didn't allow the norwegian to shoot the dog?
I vote for moving the vaxxed to Antarctica...
I second that.
Interesting how Africa, with very little access to mRNA vaccines is very much Covid-19 free. Could it be the Ivermectin that so many Africans take prophylactically/weekly to prevent malaria and other diseases ? OF COURSE NOT !
It’s the demographic. Young population. Very few elderly people in poor health which is the happy hunting ground for CoV 2. The same is to be seen in other poor Countries - and they don’t have care homes to act as CoVid slaughter houses.
If only we understood this, all the lockdown/mask/vaccine nonsense would not have happened or continue.
When covid first hit Africa the 'young population demographics' compared to westernized nations was touted as the answer for why there was so little incidence. When comparison was done between regions within Africa that included IVM in their prophylactic protocol (for treatment of other diseases) vs those regions within Africa that did not include IVM the data showed a substantial difference. Was this due to IVM treatment? (The areas that provided IVM had low rates of covid while the areas that didn't had high rates) Perhaps yes, or perhaps there is another confounding variable - but there was no difference in 'young population demographics' between the areas - so this can be excluded as a possible explanation.
But also, just the fact alone of their having lower vax rates meant they could develop immunity and not have constant reinfections.
Also many Africans take hydroxychloroquine or similar for malaria suppression.
And I use to think this guy was a nut-job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4Sd5GzROISw
They knew, and did it anyway. It was intentional.
All of it. The trashing of immune systems (VAIDS), the shedding...all of it. You are exactly correct.
Exactly.
Yup.
The sunlight, youth and lack of obesity, more likely. Not everyone takes IVM all the time, it would be very expensive for them.
Hi... Ivermectin is dirt cheap in Africa. 10 cents a weekly dose...
And I use to think this guy was a nut-job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4Sd5GzROISw
That’s a good link. I forget about him. He was soooo marginalized if I understand what happened way back when. But he’s still relevant to this fight. Probably more so now than before when he was “only” trying to raise the alarm on other vaxxes that kill less than 200 per year. Now we’ve got 24,000 per year and counting.....
Many many people have postulated same and it almost certainly is a factor, BUt the debunkers are right on one thing, Africa has huge confounding variables, hard to prove why c19 is low in those areas. Eg Sunlight and open air, influence vitamin D levels.
Melanin in the skin reduces sunshine caused Vit D so Africans should have higher CoVid shouldn’t it?
But: Europe, USA higher (real) cases and deaths and and these mostly (90%) with average age around 82 plus one or more medical conditions. It is clear it is a virus of the elderly, it is clear the elderly population in Africa is a small fraction compared to Europe, USA.
The factor that makes CoV 2 a killer isn’t present in Africa.
Exactly, many confounding variables. While I accept your science related to Black Africans, not all are totally dark skinned. Plus I still say Americans are in doors so much we’ve been proven to be Vitamin D deficient in most cases. I wonder what would happen if we tested the black Africans in Africa? What their D levels are?
The Amish in the US as well seem unaffected
Absolutely Nicole ! Funny how there's no news coverage of that is't it ? the Mennonites are non-mRNA vaxxed and have little to none Covid-19 episodes. So... their example as a test group... sure seems to support that the repeated infections and deaths among the triple vaxxed reflects back on the mRNA 'gene therapies'... mistakenly called 'vaccines'. Thanks for bringing the Amish up.
Because they don’t watch TV, and having a cold isn’t an emergency
Husband had both Moderna shots and still got a nasty case of Covid. He should be good now. Oh. And he was as sick as I was, the unvaccinated one.
I hope you're right, but what we're seeing all over the place is the vaxxed getting infected again and again. That's the problem.
Yes and that shouldn't affect the unshotted as we have a working immune system which will handle whatever comes along just fine. The reinfections for the shotted, who are filling up the hospitals will never be our concern or problem other than the fascist edicts resulting from that insanity.
Wow. Really? Pretty myopic. Many of us have loved ones who had to take the shots or were duped at first. Then there's the fact that so many chronically sick people and kids will need care. Families will lose breadwinners, fertility will be crushed, this has societal ramifications even for those of us who did not inject ourselves. It should be taken off the market, not just voluntary.
Pretty myopic, because these re-infected are throwing off new variants with each re-infection, that ultimately will turn more deadly and kill us all.
Actually, the unvaccinated have a problem as well. It's shedding and transmission. The vaxxed are shedding & transmitting the spike protein and the nanotech items. Bad news for all. And anyone who exchanges fluids (kissing, intercourse) with a vaxxed person has that crap inside them big time (sharing fluids). Maybe soon, it will be recognized that it's the mRNA vaccines that are the real problem. Not the stupid virus !
Is there any hard evidence for shedding and that it's an actual risk for the unvaxxed? There's lots of anecdotal claims but I've yet to see any actual hard evidence it's a real threat. Plus it's not contagious and can't cause replication, unlike the actual concept of "shedding" from those vaccinated with a live virus vaccine.
Taking in small quantities of spikes from vaxxed people likely does have some very small risk. It's comparable to taking up any other toxin in a miniscule quantity that our bodies routinely clear. We aren't turning our cells into spike factories (like the vaxxed) nor are we having viral replication (like the infected). So it's inherently self limiting.
We need to keep some perspective here or we risk ending up like those in hazmat suits paralyzed in fear of the virus. Yes, don't take an experimental novel genetic therapy for a virus with a minimal risk. But also don't live in fear of those who did based on some theoretical possibility of shedding with no hard proof.
Agreed. I’m dreading going through another booster shedding season. I avoid the recently vaccinated as much as I can but I have no choice at the gym where they shed like crazy.
Fortunately the unvaccinated immune system is not fixated on one bit of protein so can quickly adapt. The issue is not infection - we all get infected with umpteen pathogens on a routine basis and never notice if our immune systems are working as they should. When the immune system is loaded down with CoV 2 mRNA baggage, then the infection becomes disease.
This is why unvaccinated hospitalisations and deaths are way down, not because they are nit being infected, but because they can easily neutralise the infection. Prior exposure to the whole virus probably helps too.
Can you please share the research that shows the nanoparticles "shed"? Serious question.
Another issue is that increased transmissibility via the vaxxed is bad for everyone. We will all get exposed more and mutations happen quicker, meaning we can catch it again once it mutates enough.
I'd be careful here. If there is such a thing as "herd immunity", there perhaps also is the inverse of that: An overall abnormally high viral load overbearing an immune system that has evolved to work fine within a crowd of a majority of people with reasonably functioning immune systems - which then is no longer the case here.
The UK is testing vaxxed people for AIDS & HIV. Not testing unvaxed for the same. Conclusion ?
"The UK is testing vaxxed people for AIDS & HIV. "
Show us the source for that.
Adverts for Numan. Get tested, we only charge you if we find anything. In NHS, bllods taken are automatically screened
VAIDS does that to you
The blood donor surveillance data from the UK Health Security Agency revealed that the vaxxed do not have antibodies to the nucleocapsid at the same level as they do to the spike protein, and the anti-spike antibodies are probably recalled vaxx antibodies that are not effective against new variants. The aggregate data has been rising slowly over the past few months, but the numbers remain low in the older age cohorts. Unfortunately, the vaxxed may need to endure several infections before they have something resembling durable protection..
Pages 38-44
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1069256/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_15.pdf
Oh, dear Lord. "EFFECTIVENESS AGAINST SYMPTOMATIC DISEASE"
...then drops to almost no effect (how scientific is that? -my comment) from 25 wks after the second dose (AZ)
....down to around (again, how"scientific") 15% by 25 wks after second dose (Pf and Mod)
....dropping to almost no effect from 20+ weeks after the booster.
Am I stupid? Is this still vaxxine?
That's from the link above my post. I'm sorry for not making it clear.
People i know who are max vaxxed are getting very sick... unvaxxed not so much
I am saying this in a way that is actually as a huge fan of the state though I do not live there...West Virginia has a fairly "low" vax rate, relatively speaking. I visit there often, and love going. Friendly people, living normally.
I love WVa too!
I wonder how many in the 70+ age cohort have gotten a fourth dose. Could we be seeing another worry window spike?
Just heard about a former coworker who's been diagnosed with Parkinson's. She's had at least 3 shots. :(
I wonder what could be done to mitigate. My spouse is in medicine in CA and thus boostered. Probably will be forced to have another by September the way Newsom sounds. I had one of the poison injections before quitting my job. Oddly enough we have yet to catch it despite me being out and about maskless, same for the unvaccinated kids.
Mitigate: follow same protocols as with c19 itself. Cf FLCCC protocol. Especially anything that is supposed to mitigate vascular, cardio, intestine, sexual and brain health. Many many nutraceuticals. I like Dr Huber’s substack also. No offense to Dr Bruce Patterson (Doctor to many vaccine injured and seems like a nice guy) but I don’t trust doctors who throw Pharma at problems without at least first trying nutraceuticals that will cause subsequent side effects. ALL things, natural and big Pharma CAN have side effects but it’s extremely rare for a natural to harm in a way that is permanent or harsh, usually you just discontinue. So I’d trust Dr Huber (naturopath, check her very intelligent substack) before I’d trust Patterson.
On my end I am in control group, never had c19.
I’ve used 70 nutraceuticals, many for joint issues but many seem to have anti inflammatory properties which help with most concerns. For c19 and mitigation, I would recommend melatonin in high doses (1 mg per kilogram, yes it’s a huge amount, but even small amounts are helpful, cf Ray Sahelians (MD) blog, raysahelian.com for melatonin facts, he’s got a good site on jabs too. And Mercola had great info on the cellular impact of melatonin. Also turmeric I.e. Curcurmin (sahelian and mercola also), NAC (Mercola and FLCCC), vitamin D, vitamin C, quercetin, DGL (deglycerinized licorice, I think Mercola and Shallenberger, another naturopathic doc have published the links to why it helps), anything with Rosemarinic acid (internet search should have the pubmed article I found on that), CoQ10 for hearth health, dandelion leaf (which I haven’t used but have heard it can be a c19 fighter), any mushrooms for immune strengthening, zinc of course (Mercola had a great recent article about amount of zinc and fact it can deplete copper(esp if too much), selenium, EGCG.
I’m sure I left out something.... check FLCCC, website, especially if your husband is skeptical of naturopaths, they are MDs. Mercola is too.
Oh, zinc must always be taken with one or more of: quercetin, EGCG, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, because these are zinc ionophores. However ivermectin and quercetin have some sort or interaction issue, FLCCC posted it, those two shouldn’t be taken together.
I also personally believe in Zyflamend, a very expensive product but available many places. Look up, all natural.
I do but my spouse would never follow such ‘quackeries’.spouse wouldn’t even touch vitamin d 😭
Oh, that must be so hard, my heart goes out to you... My partner and I differ on a huge number of issues, great and small, but I am daily thankful that he, at 78, is onboard with me on this. We would both choose death before the vax, we both take supplements, etc. Have you pointed out to your spouse that even milk has Vit. D added to it?
Med school taught him supplements are quackeries and you get enough from diet and sun. He spends very little time outside; way too little for meaningful D levels. My guess is he’s at or below 20. You can’t lead the horse to the water…. Sigh.
What does he have against Vitamin D?
My hubby follows his kidney doc who tells him Vit D is bad for kidneys. This doc is in her kidney silo. I show him studies that even with mild kidney issue good levels of D over 40–60 plus does not harm and is helpful for prevention of disease but he won’t budge on any recommendations from me—I’m 74 yo healthy as a horse had a mild 3 day Covid and unvaxxed. He got JJ. But won’t get a booster anyway.
Love Zyflamend, works great for my arthritis, but just too pricey. I go with turmeric and black pepper. Also butcher's broom, saunas, and anti-inflammatory diet. My sister was Mercola's biggest devotee but then denounced him when he came out against the vaccines. Interesting how she was so much smarter than he was.
Mercola has long been anti vax so he was an easy target for the other side. At least he seems to have plenty of money. I doubt it’s hurt him a great deal. I personally find him a wealth (no pun intended) of info especially at explaining the mechanism of action of various nutraceuticals.
It's incomprehensible to me that my sister, a nurse married to a nurse, who followed Mercola religiously for years and held her MS at bay by following his suggestions, and who would not even vaccinate her kids against polio, etc., much to our family's dismay, should throw him under the bus because she got sucked into the Fauci machine. Just baffling. Brainwashed, is all I can think.
I have never found anything on IVM and quercetin being contra indicated
I doubted it too when I read it but found it only in one place, FLCCC. Whoever writes or maintains their basic info (Kory?) linked to something they implied was Paul Mariks Own research or something he himself had discovered. It wasn’t dangerous, the research simply showed quercetin made ivermectin not work or vice versa. If it’s not there anymore maybe the original findings were wrong?
right I reviewed the full FLCCC protocols again, and quercetin is listed as complementary (along with C, D, zinc) for the first line drugs of HCQ/IVM
Remember it is often asymptomatic.
Oh right, remember you’re sick even when you are not…
And I use to think this guy was a nut-job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4Sd5GzROISw
one looks how it gets trapped in tree pollen (https://doi.org/10.1063/5.0055845) and has the possibility for jetstream transport (http://physics.ruh.ac.lk/ab/pub/443.pdf). in addition to it staying in the intestinal track for up to six months (https://doi.org/10.1186/s12876-021-01905-3) ... probably no way out for many of these folks.
Vaccinated relative just diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. He is 60. Is that listed as a side effect in vaers? Sorry to bother.
Steve Kirsch reported worsening of his diabetes after his shot.
Covid does the same thing also.
makes sense as mRNA therapies are infamous for triggering auto-immune issues.
That means they're working!
The more diabetes, the better the shot!
Shingles. I have been wondering if there’s an uptick in HPV related cervical changes as the shot could trigger dormant viruses?
To add anecdotally I have heard from folks experiencing more benign skin warts post booster. Isn’t that a virus as well.
Don't know about that, but I do check the vaccine records when I see high grade cervical cytology cases. Nearly always vaxxed. FYI, I expect to see a push to vaccinate everyone to "prevent" oropharyngeal cancers. ENT docs have mentioned this in tumor conferences lately.
They want it for all kids nine and older. Boys and girls.
Shingles are age-related too. I got a relatively mild case in Jan. 2020 at 70. (Vitamin C 16,000 mg./daily evenly divided doses at onset; no lingering aftereffects).
Idk, but have just seen advertising for the HPV vaccine again. Ugh.
I wouldn't touch Gardasil with a 200ft barge pole!! A woman's got a greater chance of dying from the 'vaccine' than from cervical cancer (now remind me, what is this 'vaccine' meant to be used for? Oh, it's meant to stop cervical cancer, that's right).
And when it uses the Meningococcal injection as a 'placebo', well, the only reason Gardasil looked good was 'coz more people died in the 'placebo' group than the Gardasil group!! The joys of an aluminium-containing 'placebo'. Stay far away from this one if you know what's good for you.
How can they, "Gardasil" was withdrawn in the US . This is just quick google: " While the other two vaccines - the original Gardasil and Cervarix - are still used around the world, BOTH HAVE BEEN VOLUNTARILY DISCONTINUED IN THE US
(for reasons other than those related to safety or efficacy) 20 Sept 2021.
I know there is more to it, did more research a year ago but, can't remember the sources.
Btw, as you probably know, there are many meds that are "not allowed" to sell let's say in the US but, are sold and use in many countries.
Thank you for this sentence. My 90 YO mother who I BEGGED to not get these shots just revealed to me that she did, 1st shot Nov 2021. And for the last 2-3 months having issues with her Rheumatoid Arthritis acting up in an odd way - effecting her cornea. No other changes in her joints, etc. She has a "melting cornea". Yes, she is 90. But of course I wonder... did "spike" increase/exacerbate this cornea problem? My guess is yes, but I'm a pessimist.
the type 1 ifn effect the vaccine has on uc is interesting (https://doi.org/10.1093/ibd/izac031). ive only looked at diabetes a little bit, would be interesting to explore if other autoimmune conditions are similar pathway. the other interesting idea might be cause the vaccine is based on wuhan strain if wuhan strain is specific to type 1 ifn and if delta and other strains vary by ifn preference. just thinking out loud not making any claims.
My relative said that none of them got COVID, so he is a firm believer in the jab. But in the next sentence stated that he was recently diagnosed with type 1 diabetes out of the blue 🥴. He was triple vaxed.
Yes. People often miss what's right in front of them!! Sometimes I don't know whether I want to laugh or cry!
But it's quite awful how all these health problems that people have lurking under the surface are being brought out by the covid injections. Imagine what the health system (if anyone still wants to call it that!) is going to be like in a few years, let alone 6 months: Utterly. Crippled.
Unfortunately a lot of people seem to be more than willing to accept the idea that The Virus, or its latest variant, is to blame for every illness since 2020. Their authority figures tell them it's Covid, (and those selfish people who refuse to get injected), and, by their silence on the subject, insinuate "the science" would never consider the mRNA concoction.
Heaven forbid that people have any sort of self-responsibility ha ha ha! It's so much better to blame someone/something/anything else rather than search for and read the actual Science instead of the drivel the media & govts push on everyone.
16 years as a health professional has taught me that most people do seem to have some idea as to what they're doing wrong, but 90% of the time they're too darned lazy to do much about it. So as Igor has insinuated, it's really no surprise that humanity is in this pickle right now...!!
They refer to these illnesses (including vax injuries) as long covid.
I think I would rather get COVID.
I got COVID, followed the FLCCC and Fleming protocols and it was basically nothing. Two restless nights was it, and that could have been cured with some NyQuil.
@Curtis- husband, shotted with 2 Modernas, and I, no shots, both got it last November. Both real sick but did not need hospitalization. We used DayQuil and NyQuil, drank broth and ate Jello because neither of us was really hungry, slept a lot. We got over it although I'm suspecting I have lingering....things.....can't quite put my finger on it. Taste still not 100% and I've had a sore throat and swollen glands for a few months now. No, I haven't been to my doctor because he treated me as if I got what I deserved when I had Covid because I refused to be vaccinated. Funny, he had nothing to say about husband who had been treated for a blistering transient rash then myocarditis a few months before we got sick. Gee. It's as if he didn't want to admit I was correct about the 'vaccines'.
I had a slight fever one evening and a runny nose for a couple of days. But lost taste and smell. That was January before jabs started around me. I had an antibody test the next October and had good report. I will never get those evil things. I’ve been around vaxxed and boostered who got Covid but I have not. Some of my friends are experiencing worrying symptoms. One has raging autoimmune hepatitis that requires medicine that causes diabetes so she is on daily insulin shots now. Several others with odd blood reports. One with chronic lymphatic leukemia. My sister has one sinus infection after another now. Ear infections. Chest infections. A mess. I despair.
surprise, surprise
The virus itself, therefore the vaccine spike protein has extensive mimicry with certain diabetes linked/insulin proteins. Plus a lot more. I have forecasted the rise of diabetes almost 2 years ago. Have some posts about it.
Yes, Covid AND covid vaxx both cause diabetes.
I was reading a paper on the bloods of a (small) number of subjects injected (in China) and after the jabs quite a few things went amiss in a number of bodily systems, but over time, the only seemingly permanent change seemed to be that the markers for diabetes were increased. My hubby got the link from a post by Steve Kirsch (which you would therefore know about, but for other readers not on his substack, here's the link):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8546144/
If this study could be replicated on a larger scale it sounds like widespread diabetes is going to be a 'thing' (among others...). I would just expect Type 2, not Type 1, that's all. But if there are going to be heaps more adult Type 1 diabetes diagnoses, then something deeply disturbing is going on. Well, let me clarify: something deeply disturbing IS already going on! It's just going to get a whole lot worse.
According to some, Covid-19 was just a excuse to create hysteria so that all the hysterical folks would clamor for these mRNA 'gene therapies'. It sure seems as if Covid was a scare tactic and the never used on Humans before mRNA technology was the 'destination'. Sadly, those who are double and triple mRNA 'vaxxed' are not doing so well health wise. And some claim that recent studies show that the mRNA 'vaxxes' DO alter our DNA. If true... a Brave New World is upon us.
mRNA vaccines have been used in humans, at least in clinical trials, for over a decade, but as delivery devices for cancer immunotherapy, where the risk/benefit analysis is pretty well-defined.
To be clear... mRNA 'gene therapies' are not 'Vaccines'. They are patented as 'gene therapies' because that's what they are. No mRNA injectable is a 'vaccine'. Until the CDC changed the definition recently... a vaccine had to contain a weakened or dead piece of the antigen. So if mRNA tech was used for cancer... it was not as a 'vaccine'. I guess it was used as 'gene therapy' ? And how did it work out ? I suspect not very well ? See link #3 @ < https://www.C-19truth.com > . Stay Healthy...
Absolutely. Until September, 2021, they were not vaccines. Medical devices, I suppose, though they were referred to as vaccines prior to that by some investigators. It's not a dead topic in oncology, as there are quite a few ongoing and upcoming trials. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8047518/. But, as I implied, the risk of an experimental therapy when your condition is already terminal is much more tolerable compared to when your condition is currently good health, and the condition you are treating is unlikely to affect you long term in any way. And don't take this the wrong way coming from me, I don't think big pharma has a much better record when it comes to cancer therapy. Most of the time these are not curative therapies, rather than something that buys an elderly patient six months of progression free survival, or something like that at an exorbitant cost and loss of quality of life.
We don't hear much about the adenovirus vector "vaccine" anymore. I don't know why. Live adenovirus vaccines have also been around for decades, and used by the US military. They have never been FDA approved, because adenoviruses are known to be oncogenic. The virus used for the J&J vaccine, of course, is nonreplicating. One of the genes responsible for replication has been removed. I understand this vaccine uses a simian adenovirus. I don't know much it has in common with human adenoviruses, which surround us every day, just like coronaviruses, causing respiratory and gastrointestinal infections. In vitro, non--replicating adenoviruses, such as the one used in the vaccine, can recombine with a wild-type adenovirus and regain the ability to replicate. I wish I had a link, but I was reading this way back when I was deciding whether I was going to receive either of these shots, and that was what sunk in. What happens to someone who has a replicating adenoviral capsid in their own cell nuclei with the job of manufacturing spike protein? I don't know the answer to that, or the probability, but it sounds pretty damn bad.
This was originally supposed to be a SIX SHOT SERIES!
The jab doesn't change your DNA, badly designed paper to push... Something. And some people took it and drove their preferred narrative.
The mRNA is absolutely poison don't get me wrong. I have been against them since June 2020
In one of the first 20 or so (IIRC) sessions of the German "Corona Committie", they had one, geneticist I believe or other qualified _seeming_ person, who claimed that the cheap mass production method for the mRNA jabs is sloppy compared to the lab products used in the study, and that one consequence was incomplete conversion of the DNA that they apparently have as source, into RNA, and such remainders could then possibly get into your DNA, or produce replicable "garbage" cells out of half baked stuff... from my very rough memory. Does that make any sense? IIRC also, the person claimed that was a known thing that Pfizer reported to the EMA, they knew about it but not much fuss was made.
Yeah, I think it is too soon to say it doesn't change dna
In the last 2 months I came across two fully jabbed people who were diagnosed with diabetes AFTER losing 30-40 pounds. Neither was pre-diabetic beforehand. Both are baffled by this turn of events.
Let me guess.. Meds? So sad.
Let's not be too quick to dismiss bad lifestyle, poor environment, or other factors. To some extent, SARS-CoV-2 like (according to some) HIV and many other viruses is an opportunistic pathogen. Some victims may simply be more at risk due to poor choices (e.g. obesity is a major risk factor for Covid-19) as much as other factors influencing immunity: environment, genetic predisposition, etc. . HIV is "officially" the virus that causes AIDS, but the problem is that many people with symptoms called AIDS show no trace of the virus. I don't think this is the case with Covid, however.
If the [mRNA] jabs really do depress immunity, then it would explain a lot of that, wouldn't it...?
RFK Jr's book talks about this.
AIDS symptoms + HIV-positive: AIDS
AIDS symptoms + HIV-negative: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
By taking megadoses of Vitamin D, I practically cured my Type 2 diabetes. HbA1c down from 6.4 to 5.8.
Are there stats out there that can be used to compare the rates of these developments due to infection vs due to vaxx? As far as I am aware this is all anecdotal at this point correct? (If this is being tracked I doubt any data is publicly available)
Type 1?! At 60?! That's pretty rare...
Yes. I even said. "type 2?" And he said. No. Type 1. Sheesh.
Maybe they should call it "breakthrough" diabetes...
Maybe it will be as rare as breakthrough cases of Covid? A home nurse was seeing my mom after mom broke her hip. She told me a similar story, a patient of hers was recently diagnosed with type 1. I think she said the person is 47.
auto immune attack on the pancreas would be my guess, inspired by the Spike protein.
But also consider direct spike protein attack on the beta cells through their receptors.
The article noted by Making Waves, above, explains it quite well.
Diabetes is mostly a disease of advancing age, which is why there is more of it because of our ageing population. So why the surprise?
Type 2 is adult onset, due to acquired insulin resistance. Type 1, which this 60yo claims to have, is normally childhood onset and is due to pancreatic autoimmunity.