Interestingly, Gov. DeSantis was on the old Rush Limbaugh (Clay & Buck?) show today at 2:05PM EST and made the exact point that the virus has a seasonality to it, and accepted that Florida looks pretty awesome right now in part because of seasonality, and further predicted that the North will probably encounter difficult-to-explain times soon. His multi-prong approach that saw a bursting case rate over summer will pay dividends into the future as Florida's new long-term T-immunes enjoy robust immunity to new variants as the vaxxers everywhere else cause them to arise.
I can't help but wonder whether analyzing the 'covid deaths' thing (or 'covid cases' this) might be an exercise in garbage-in-garbage out. We know the PCR tests are overly sensitive. Did anyone else recall this article from 2007? There are some creepy callouts to we, living in the future. https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
Yesterday I got curious about vaccine rates and total morbidity and the question "what was the point of all this" that gato asks.
I compared the YoY change in total deaths in each state in the US against % of population fully vaccinated. There's very little relationship. Like, R2 of basically 0 for some age cohorts.
For another country pair, try Japan and South Korea. Latitude is roughly the same, so is genetic makeup. Japan has struggled with vacciantion due to tainted Moderna vaccines and has gone all in on ivermectin. I haven't seen much on South Korea. But again you have two developed economies with similar genetics and latitude but physically separated. Data should be available, just not sure if its in English.
Also, why use countries? Saskatchewan and Montana might be an interesting pair... a super quick eye check suggests cases have been on similar trajectories before the vaccine, and I am guessing Canada is vaccinating at a higher rate than a red state.
"comparing romania to france is not meaningful at any given time"
I do not disagree with this statement, but it should also be stated that comparing the unvaccinated to the vaccinated is not meaningful anymore either. The characteristics of the two populations has diverged spectacularly in most countries. In my country, the method seems to be: vaccinate those who have a high probability of already having natural immunity, charge for testing and mandate the unvaccinated test 1-3 times a week in order to survive, tell the vaccinated they do not need a test if they are sick (just stay home), do not vaccinate the most likely to die such as cancer patients, and whatever you do, do NOT adjust VE for any confounding variables.
I may have missed it, but shouldn't the data be normalized by age group as well? Israel may well have older people than Palestine or vice versa. So we should compare age group vs. age group, rather than population as a whole.
1000%! I co-authored a journal article (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/rmv.2241) on respiratory virus seasonality in May, in which we suggest that respiratory viruses are seasonal largely not because of crowding/humidity/vitD (they do have a role, just not main), but because of temperature shifts, down to the individual level. I’ve been trying to get anyone (especially journalists and other scientists) to talk about the idea that you can’t have a rational discussion about COVID or any other respiratory virus if you aren’t taking seasonality into account. Our vaccines were tested during the summer (not COVID season for most of the world), and we still haven’t gone through a full winter in Europe/North America with a significant portion of the population vaccinated. How do you properly test a vaccine for a efficacy against disease that isn’t prevalent (in season)??? Sadly, our leaders and scientists either seem to have the wrong ideas about what probably causes seasonality, or think that COVID isn’t yet a seasonal virus, or both. This will be a costly mistake this winter.
vaccines seem to be having no effect on covid death rates in israel when compared to low vaxx palestine
Interestingly, Gov. DeSantis was on the old Rush Limbaugh (Clay & Buck?) show today at 2:05PM EST and made the exact point that the virus has a seasonality to it, and accepted that Florida looks pretty awesome right now in part because of seasonality, and further predicted that the North will probably encounter difficult-to-explain times soon. His multi-prong approach that saw a bursting case rate over summer will pay dividends into the future as Florida's new long-term T-immunes enjoy robust immunity to new variants as the vaxxers everywhere else cause them to arise.
British Columbia, all cause mortality spiked 10-12% per month since the debut of the second dose at the and of May
try Ukraine , Latvia, Lithuania and Romania ---- Ukraine is one of the lowest vax rates, Lithuania one of the higher
I can't help but wonder whether analyzing the 'covid deaths' thing (or 'covid cases' this) might be an exercise in garbage-in-garbage out. We know the PCR tests are overly sensitive. Did anyone else recall this article from 2007? There are some creepy callouts to we, living in the future. https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
Yesterday I got curious about vaccine rates and total morbidity and the question "what was the point of all this" that gato asks.
I compared the YoY change in total deaths in each state in the US against % of population fully vaccinated. There's very little relationship. Like, R2 of basically 0 for some age cohorts.
https://imgur.com/a/IjBzD4r
I didn't try to control for seasonality, though. That might be an interesting follow up.
In a normal world, this article alone would sink the vaccine effort. This is just incredible.
For another country pair, try Japan and South Korea. Latitude is roughly the same, so is genetic makeup. Japan has struggled with vacciantion due to tainted Moderna vaccines and has gone all in on ivermectin. I haven't seen much on South Korea. But again you have two developed economies with similar genetics and latitude but physically separated. Data should be available, just not sure if its in English.
Latvia, Lithuania - same charts as Israel-Palestine
So, how do we stop them from injecting our kids with this?
For something 'highly effective' it sure is having a hard time making itself known in the data.
Also, why use countries? Saskatchewan and Montana might be an interesting pair... a super quick eye check suggests cases have been on similar trajectories before the vaccine, and I am guessing Canada is vaccinating at a higher rate than a red state.
"comparing romania to france is not meaningful at any given time"
I do not disagree with this statement, but it should also be stated that comparing the unvaccinated to the vaccinated is not meaningful anymore either. The characteristics of the two populations has diverged spectacularly in most countries. In my country, the method seems to be: vaccinate those who have a high probability of already having natural immunity, charge for testing and mandate the unvaccinated test 1-3 times a week in order to survive, tell the vaccinated they do not need a test if they are sick (just stay home), do not vaccinate the most likely to die such as cancer patients, and whatever you do, do NOT adjust VE for any confounding variables.
Bulgaria has the lowest vaccination rate in the EU. Maybe compare it to another small European country?
I may have missed it, but shouldn't the data be normalized by age group as well? Israel may well have older people than Palestine or vice versa. So we should compare age group vs. age group, rather than population as a whole.
More frightening facts…….
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-11-02-science-horror-vaccine-spike-protein-enters-cell-nuclei-suppresses-dna-repair-engine-of-the-human-body-cancer-aging.html
I came across this analysis: https://market-ticker.org/post=244109
which is a further analysis of this: https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/31/100-percent-of-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-caused-by-just-5-percent-of-the-batches-produced/
This article claims to have discovered significant correlations between specific vaccine lot numbers and adverse events in VAERS.
WHAT DO EL GATO MALO AND OTHERS THINK OF THIS?
1000%! I co-authored a journal article (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/rmv.2241) on respiratory virus seasonality in May, in which we suggest that respiratory viruses are seasonal largely not because of crowding/humidity/vitD (they do have a role, just not main), but because of temperature shifts, down to the individual level. I’ve been trying to get anyone (especially journalists and other scientists) to talk about the idea that you can’t have a rational discussion about COVID or any other respiratory virus if you aren’t taking seasonality into account. Our vaccines were tested during the summer (not COVID season for most of the world), and we still haven’t gone through a full winter in Europe/North America with a significant portion of the population vaccinated. How do you properly test a vaccine for a efficacy against disease that isn’t prevalent (in season)??? Sadly, our leaders and scientists either seem to have the wrong ideas about what probably causes seasonality, or think that COVID isn’t yet a seasonal virus, or both. This will be a costly mistake this winter.