One of your absolute best pieces yet. Unfortunately there is no voting our way out of global technocracy. It has firmly entrenched itself across the west for four decades or longer. They control elections now which are predictable pantomimes and select leaders where there are no elections. Becoming ungovernable requires rejecting ALL of …
One of your absolute best pieces yet. Unfortunately there is no voting our way out of global technocracy. It has firmly entrenched itself across the west for four decades or longer. They control elections now which are predictable pantomimes and select leaders where there are no elections. Becoming ungovernable requires rejecting ALL of their tools for subjugation. If people can't even be bothered to quit gmail, instashame, or stop using smartphones, the ultimate herding tool for enslavement and control, then we are all just on our own. Take care of yourself and your family. Organize locally. Live remotely and prepare for absolute self sufficiency. Declare independence from their diseased systems. By the time the masses realize they've already been captured and subdued, they stand no chance of resistance. Most of them are just the walking dead.
I knew voting was a fraud when I realized that *both* “sides” say, “it doesn’t matter who you vote for, just vote.” Kind of tells you who wins either way.
We must reject their legitimacy wholesale and play our own game. They will come for us, but we cannot stop.
Totally agree Sarah. Most people are so ignorant they should stay as far from the voting booth as possible. Personal example: I'm 60 years old, all my kids went to Catholic schools and the youngest graduated 7 years ago. Why should I vote in the school board election? I have no idea what any of the candidates stand for, have no idea who any of them are. Criticize me for that ignorance if you want, but I'm not going to go in there and just flip a coin and vote for someone. I pass. 90% of the public should do that across the board.
Ironically, you should care and know more about your local candidates as this is where policy most directly impacts your life.
For example, my city is a blue stain in a red sea, and its mayor and council have attempted to nullify the state’s restrictions on abortion by claiming they’ll turn a blind eye and request the police department prioritize other infractions of the law.
Similarly, while I think government schools are beyond help and the best course of action is for people to turn their backs on the concept by withdrawing their children en masse, insofar as school boards exert control over the indoctrination of your local youth population, one could argue that THAT is where you should focus your efforts on keeping out the psychos with delusions of grandeur.
People also underestimate how powerful locally elected sheriffs and county judges can be when it comes to enforcing (or not enforcing) things like lockdowns.
I've generally looked at it the same way. If you know nothing about the options in a particular race, then don't vote there. I usually have some serious opinion about presidential and congressional candidates, but a list of names up for the local ditch supervisory board is generally just that to me, and I don't vote on that one. Of course, I suppose that means that some ballot custodian can steal that vote if they want.
I agree Sarah. Democracy is the true opiate of the masses, or at least the trappings of democracy that have lost the truth of self-government. Next time you hear one of them speaking substitute 'self-government' or 'independance' every time they say democracy and see if the meaning isn't 180 degrees different. Shouldn't be that way should it?
The vote has become form without content. No institution can make or preserve freedom, that must be done by men and women.
One of the most insidious features of the technofascist progressive utopian delusion is how it conditions us from birth to value the material trappings of the inversion more than ourselves.
And once inculcated to the inversion, it systematically decreases the utility and comforts of those material things over time thereby increasing our inverted sense of value. This operant conditioning would make Skinner blush.
The solution you lay out is indeed the one before us. But it proposes a reckoning that challenges our spiritual anchoring in a time in which the comforting collateral of trading our souls - though obviously liquidating, is still a long way from the corrective discomforts that await in nature.
As you point out, there is nothing within the system that can be taken over to right the system. It is self-regulating. To ask how is to solve for that moment when FTX "went bankrupt".
I have personally made most of the moves to situate myself as a dissident. I do not recommend it in the broad sense. As the futility of describing 'acceptance' to a man still struggling with the 'denial' stage of grief is clear.
There is no model, program, monkey branch, or one-size solution for what a man must undertake to remove himself from the system. In this effort, we are all alone until such time as we emerge from that reckoning on the other side and once again endeavor to find our people.
Most of my friends are still negotiating for what they can take with them IF they were to leave the cloud city. I left the chips on the table with a straight flush in hand. They still think I am crazy. Though a little less so these days. Yet they want to know what will be on the test.
Perhaps you can rake the chips one more time on your way out. Good on ya. But I figured out that the very notion of that is why the house always wins in the end. Income, retirement savings, professional trajectory, social status, material surplus, relationships, etc. What are you willing to leave behind? Some of it? All of it?
Your brave act is the only move that I believe has a high chance of working. I wish I had the freedom to be as brave. Still looking for a slightly less drastic way of leaving the rabid-rat race and appreciate the odds of getting trapped are higher the more one is tied to teh system.
Living here in Finland in a climate that needs heat to survive the winter means one needs a home that can be heated with wood, that requires capital.
yeah, come to the south of Spain, you still need the house and you still need the wood, but you can get both for much less than in most places in Europe.
(also it's just not as flipping cold)
You could probably get through it just by wearing more clothes
Both Finland and Spain have good and weak points. If one could predict how much poop is going to hit the fan one could gamble on how primitive one needs to go.
Spain is warm but proximal to Africa and what will be an endless stream of hungry people, Finland is frozen but off the beaten track and sparsely populated, and I have language skills and family here.
The question in my mind is will the situation devolve to a point where energy cannot be got at any price in which case we have mayhem in Finland too when all but the rural folk will start to get cold and hungry.
distance from Africa doesn't seem to be saving anybody from the endless stream of military aged males, most of whom don't look very hungry at all, with smart phones in hand.
Hungry people are staying where they are it seems
(that said, my town is filling with africans for olive picking season and there is no conflict at all, as they are needed and welcomed. Most of them move on to other hard work afterwards.)
Olive picking is one of the hardest jobs I ever had, and the african boys (almost all from Somalia) were strong and capable and cheerful workers, although not perfect, as indeed neither am I
Historically, the only dispositive tool for ending tyranny is organized violence. Organizing effectively for such an attempt is now almost impossible given the surveillance grid. Our only hope is TPTB rot internally, that their heirs implode the thing by their degeneracy. This occupies time, and I doubt any person reading this post will ever bask in the overthrow.
Yes, at some point natures favored arbiter emerges. Yet as you say organizing is "almost impossible". We are the almost. Be the almost.
We are not many, but we are steeled to this purpose. To first preserve and protect and then arm and train a righteous People who will also be the few in their time. But who will have the skills, disposition, and spiritual mettle to build up from the ashes.
So indeed, we are tilling the soil, planting those trees which some day will cast that cool shade under which we will never sit.
Of all the generational blame, i.e. "the boomers", and other low hanging fruit of what is wrong with current year, the most wretched is the pervasive inclination to inherit that self-centered, narcissistic entitlement that sullies every endeavor toward anything right and true into the necessity to harvest the bounty up-front. A great myopia of spirit. End that.
Our elders ate our seed corn. Will we be any different?
To accept the truth of our current station is to understand that we cannot dispossess the system of its bad leadership or evil tendencies and replace it with our own better versions. Nor can we use the tools of the system to build a mass movement to rush the castles in the sky. But there is a lot one man can do. A lot more a few good men can do together.
The system is on entropy; it will fall. And then what?
The best time to plant those trees was 20 years ago. The second best is today.
One more thing to consider. Once they win as a class, they will be fighting each other by individual and family as rivals for supreme power. The organized violence will be largely internecine, but that will involve factions of regular people as well.
The winner of that will win in part by being moderate to the people while putting his rivals in chains. We may be able to win a little back there, though it probably won't be in our lifetimes. The rot will begin once we have a single emperor and a hereditary imperial dynasty. That will probably happen in about another century.
"If people can't even be bothered to quit gmail, instashame, or stop using smartphones, the ultimate herding tool for enslavement and control, then we are all just on our own."
This is just it. Small things, but significant things, if done in significant numbers. We haven't got the numbers yet, because the vast majority are addicted to the tools of the technocratic tyranny, which they think make their lives 'better' and 'easier'. Sure they do, as they cement the steel bars in place which form their digital prison. I've NEVER owned a 'Smart' (Surveillance, Monitoring, And Recording Technology) phone. I don't watch TV and don't use Google for ANYTHING if I can help it. Any device with 'smart' written on the tin is obviously aimed at idiots who can't even use a tin-opener to see what's inside. Why can't people see? Why am I in such a tiny majority? Why am I not 'normal' for rejecting that which is seriously ABnormal?
'We' are not many and never will be. The vast majority of humanity are effectively blue-pilled brain dead and are not going to wake up until a millisecond before the thermonuclear shock wave hits them, or some such equally catastrophic event of the Endless War, kicked off in 1914 by the War to End All Wars. They were true to their word: we just got one endless war instead. What we need is a critical mass awake, which need not be a majority; it just needs to be a SIGNIFICANT minority. We've got precious little time to get there.
Canceled TV in 2012 and unsubscribed from Google/Gmail, et al as well as the venal and toxic culture long before that. You have at least one soul sister out there who's equally disgusted with the seemingly invincible ignorance of the so-called masses.
We are in a very awkward position. The tool we use to communicate is the tool that can and will be used to enslave us.
My son and I did a Amateur Radio course, need to write the test and get some basic gear. Worst case the time will come when the networks are not usable for resistance activities.
I just had a thought, we do not even need to be a significant minority, just in positions of power. Perhaps it is time to start recruiting amongst the enemy and infiltrating the media, politics, legal system, public health, banking.
I have an old 2G/3G Nokia phone which I find perfectly adequate to communicate with via simple texts and voice calls. Until such time as they take down the 2G/3G network, meaning these old phones won't work, I'll continue to use it. Then your radio communication idea might be worth considering.
We talk as if the bureaucracy is some monolithic entity that is not composed of individual people. People leading and working in these institutions make corrupt decisions. They ignore the good and do wrong for personal or ideological gain. We know who many of them are. They know we know and are not worried in the slightest about retribution.
No change is coming until very specific human beings begin to pay a very specific, very personal price for their actions. The word "accountable" is the most overused--and underpowered--word in the political lexicon. How about this: "People that do bad sh*t have to be afraid that their lives may turn to sh*t without warning"? The fact that the FBI and DoJ are among the worst perpetrators of bad sh*t should be your first clue that justice via electoral and legal paradigms is over.
Truth is being steamrolled, truth tellers silenced, and unelected elites are projecting power that they have either stolen or simply arrogated. In Brazil, three million people took to the streets. In America we wait for Godot to deliver the answers. You know what the real answer is. You just can't bring yourself to say it. Yet.
You do recognize that "the masses" is the rhetoric that empowers the WEFfers, right? El Gato wants people who are ungovernable. Assign them into the category "the masses" and you've consigned them to the ash heap of participation.
Voting is over, as 2020 showed. But there is something more insidiuous that is coming at us with the speed of a freight train. Digital Programmable Central Bank Currency. Why? Because they HAVE TO CONTROL THE VELOCITY OF MONEY. This is also why the lockdowns.
REad the first essay of Ann Barnhardt...makes it simple and understandable. I still do not know how we fight against this: https://www.barnhardt.biz/
Everyone fears technology but we shouldn't be. We should simply understand the difference between centralized and decentralized systems. One is voluntary and one is tyranny.
The number one most important factor for determining quality of life on Earth is this:
What kind of system do you live under?
Think about it. If you tell us what kind of systems you live under - from systems of government, medicine, family, infrastructure, education, community, religion and more - chances are we can predict what kind of life you have.
Let's examine some recent problems: FTX. Voting systems. Medicine. Corruption. War. Homelessness.
It’s our own fault. All of it.
We have embraced the wrong kind of systems that govern over us - centralized ones - and they have become corrupted. It is time to change that. We need to understand and embrace decentralized systems, and fear centralized non transparent ones. And we need to be able to spot the difference.
Can you?
Once we recognize a system has been corrupted, it’s time to bust out the anecdote: TRANSPARENCY and DECENTRALIZATION.
Who wants to be part of a society of problem solvers instead of just complainers? Please, let's talk.
For a Boomer, I'm pretty good with technology. My 30 year career(s) in Silicon Valley from 1981 to 2011--including 10 years in hardware and 20 years in software gave me a decent perspective. It especially taught me that proprietary software is inherently insecure and corruptible. The problem I have with your contentions is that the vast majority of SW is proprietary and as long as humans are driven by greed and power (forever) SW will remain insecure and systems will gravitate inexorably towards centralized control.
To take one example, let's assume that US intel (hyper-centralized) has its tendrils in virtually all hardware and software as we speak. Your solution to decentralize depends upon defanging the various intel agencies. They will not cede their control willingly, so what is your proposal to transform the current centralized state to the decentralized state? Then, there are the banks, pharma/healthcare, etc., all of them with massive accrued power protected by our massive government. They fear neither election nor the legal systems that they control.
I don’t know what a centralized strategy would be. But I don’t need anyone to tell me what the black pill is. We have two options: either something big shifts, or we end up with Hunger Games. The latter is the easier to bank on, but we don’t have to do anything to work towards that outcome, so why would we assume it’s a foregone conclusion? We don’t yet know what we are capable of in the other direction.
I don't feel that the Hunger Games is a foregone conclusion at all. I've been saying for years now that until the perpetrators pay a very steep personal price for their actions, they will continue what they are doing. Not everybody participating in the tyranny can have WEF level security. Only when random perps and underlings begin encountering consequences will the world begin to change.
The collapse of the dollar will be the punishment for them. It will render them irrelevant, and that’s what they fear the most. To be the same as the rest of us are their worst nightmares.
I get concerned when I hear freedom-oriented folks saying we have to abandon tech because it’s been weaponized against us. No. We need to take it through this evolution.
I find it important to understand *why* people voted for the system we have, first. What are the benefits of centralization? Only when I address those with alternatives, or effectively demonstrate that the risks outweigh the rewards and offer a better future, will I have any impact.
You must stop using their money too. Hard AF, but it's the only way to really stop being robbed blind. Get rid of it as soon as you get it, if you can save, use real goods, like stocking your pantry, firewood, ammo, metals, anything tangible, forcing the market to pay you back for your production as soon as possible, before any inflation robs you. Trade as local as possible, and once you have that network of local frens, exchange among them without using fed money. Invent your own, if needed. Have a group pool of resources and services registering. You can assign "market prices" to them as a mean of starting it, you can use Swiss francs, or a pool of foreign stuff, or just silver coins.
Voting is a major part of the explanation as to how we have arrived at this point in history. A flawed, willfully uninformed populace, with no regard for truth, is responsible for the existential plight in which we currently find ourself. "The real volte-face and revolution that society has to face is to shake off rhetoric and resolutely turn to truth as a guiding principle." The Psychology of Totalitarianism, p. 187, Mattias Desmet, 2022.
I've always thought our vote could be either positive or negative. In other words, you could vote -1 for someone. The results of an election like that could be very interesting and illuminating.
the more ungovernable you become, the more power you can wield to reduce the state, the more you reduce the state, the easier it becomes to be ungovernable.
anyone trying for only one or the other is going to lose.
it's fun to edge lord and say "let's just be totally ungovernable" but it's just a pose and i suspect most so saying know it.
there is no real answer there that scales beyond tiny numbers or retains anything like a modern society with full dependence on the external. we cannot all move to idaho and grow our own food and make our own shoes and never use the internet again.
and not many would want to.
so what is the actual, tangible, workable solution?
it's easy and fun to demand extremist utopian impossibilities and then mutter "sheeple" and blame everyone else when it fails, but it's no real solution, just a set of pre-made excuses to gripe while never really changing anything and claim a moral purity rooted in fabulism.
but i just cannot see it as a viable path to anywhere.
the state is not going away and you cannot just cause millions or billions to step outside it. a real solution must work from both ends and address the realities, not the fantasies.
Quite interesting that you interpreted my comment as "let's just be totally ungovernable". Says a lot about you and your followers.
You're a young, rich libertarian, gradually coming to grips with the real world. It's precious. If you weren't so long-winded, I might stick around to see how your postures continue to evolve.
The quantitative analyses were what brought me here. You've been doing less and less of that, and it's getting less and less relevant.
But honestly, I've just had it with your naive political rants.
This is a very interesting place the two of you have arrived at.
I agree with Shy Boy in that voting at all is contradictory to becoming ungovernable, but not with the subsequent ad hominem hissy fit.
“Ungovernable” needs to be better defined, imo. It can’t just mean noncompliance, because that will result in legally justifiable punitive action from the government, will it not?
Strictly speaking, being ungovernable must mean being outside the government’s jurisdiction. (Ironically, that cannot be done by a resident of Puerto Rico as it is a territory and not a state.)
Removing oneself from the government’s jurisdiction requires understanding how, when, why, and by whom said jurisdiction was established in the first place. Without having considered such fundamental questions I don’t think meaningful answers to our current predicament are possible, hence the (imho) contradictory assertion of this post.
Sorry for the "hissy fit". I guess I wasn't very clear enough. I used to be a libertarian myself, but that was long ago. I even used to run with self-identified "anarchists" and I'm pretty tired of cheap anti-voting rhetoric.
In brief, I think "ungovernable" is nonsense, and the libertarian ideological position is blind to so many aspects of human experience and culture that it's ultimately self-defeating. Once you become aware of the identity and nature of our "governors" and start examining the actual mechanisms and strategies of their "governance", you'll find it extends well beyond what we normally think of as "government".
I advocate thorough and strategic participation in politics, especially at the local level. Mere voting doesn't cut it. I also advocate non-participation in other forms of social control, and most importantly, the development of genuinely sustainable defenses and alternatives. It's much more difficult and extensive than what I understand gato to be advocating here.
Here's a Christian take on all that, from Andrew Torba (you know, the GAB guy).
I don't think Torba has all the answers (like, at all) but I think he's closer to an effective strategy than this post, which is long on (to me, obvious) problems and short on (to me, believable) solutions.
People like the Gab founder are fooling themselves. There’s nowhere left to run. His paragraph about how you have to get the Hell out of Dodge and build something somewhere else is what every group of Pilgrims from every failed state ruled by monarchs has said for thousands of years. North America was the last place to go, and the West Coast the last land to inhabit. All successful people who generate great wealth with their liberty and enterprise will *always* be targeted by these thieves and tyrants. There is no place to run. You can build, but you’re going to have to be prepared to fight to keep whatever it is, because when they come, they’ll come in a huge mass, starving and armed to the teeth. And the longer you wait, the better organized and armed they will be.
One of your absolute best pieces yet. Unfortunately there is no voting our way out of global technocracy. It has firmly entrenched itself across the west for four decades or longer. They control elections now which are predictable pantomimes and select leaders where there are no elections. Becoming ungovernable requires rejecting ALL of their tools for subjugation. If people can't even be bothered to quit gmail, instashame, or stop using smartphones, the ultimate herding tool for enslavement and control, then we are all just on our own. Take care of yourself and your family. Organize locally. Live remotely and prepare for absolute self sufficiency. Declare independence from their diseased systems. By the time the masses realize they've already been captured and subdued, they stand no chance of resistance. Most of them are just the walking dead.
https://thegoodcitizen.substack.com/p/atomization-variant
I knew voting was a fraud when I realized that *both* “sides” say, “it doesn’t matter who you vote for, just vote.” Kind of tells you who wins either way.
We must reject their legitimacy wholesale and play our own game. They will come for us, but we cannot stop.
Totally agree Sarah. Most people are so ignorant they should stay as far from the voting booth as possible. Personal example: I'm 60 years old, all my kids went to Catholic schools and the youngest graduated 7 years ago. Why should I vote in the school board election? I have no idea what any of the candidates stand for, have no idea who any of them are. Criticize me for that ignorance if you want, but I'm not going to go in there and just flip a coin and vote for someone. I pass. 90% of the public should do that across the board.
Ironically, you should care and know more about your local candidates as this is where policy most directly impacts your life.
For example, my city is a blue stain in a red sea, and its mayor and council have attempted to nullify the state’s restrictions on abortion by claiming they’ll turn a blind eye and request the police department prioritize other infractions of the law.
Similarly, while I think government schools are beyond help and the best course of action is for people to turn their backs on the concept by withdrawing their children en masse, insofar as school boards exert control over the indoctrination of your local youth population, one could argue that THAT is where you should focus your efforts on keeping out the psychos with delusions of grandeur.
People also underestimate how powerful locally elected sheriffs and county judges can be when it comes to enforcing (or not enforcing) things like lockdowns.
I've generally looked at it the same way. If you know nothing about the options in a particular race, then don't vote there. I usually have some serious opinion about presidential and congressional candidates, but a list of names up for the local ditch supervisory board is generally just that to me, and I don't vote on that one. Of course, I suppose that means that some ballot custodian can steal that vote if they want.
The #government always wins!
Except when they're supposed to regulate something. Then the winner is generally the #corporations or the #ngos.
It's always the ruling class though. #tautology
I agree Sarah. Democracy is the true opiate of the masses, or at least the trappings of democracy that have lost the truth of self-government. Next time you hear one of them speaking substitute 'self-government' or 'independance' every time they say democracy and see if the meaning isn't 180 degrees different. Shouldn't be that way should it?
The vote has become form without content. No institution can make or preserve freedom, that must be done by men and women.
One of the most insidious features of the technofascist progressive utopian delusion is how it conditions us from birth to value the material trappings of the inversion more than ourselves.
And once inculcated to the inversion, it systematically decreases the utility and comforts of those material things over time thereby increasing our inverted sense of value. This operant conditioning would make Skinner blush.
The solution you lay out is indeed the one before us. But it proposes a reckoning that challenges our spiritual anchoring in a time in which the comforting collateral of trading our souls - though obviously liquidating, is still a long way from the corrective discomforts that await in nature.
As you point out, there is nothing within the system that can be taken over to right the system. It is self-regulating. To ask how is to solve for that moment when FTX "went bankrupt".
I have personally made most of the moves to situate myself as a dissident. I do not recommend it in the broad sense. As the futility of describing 'acceptance' to a man still struggling with the 'denial' stage of grief is clear.
There is no model, program, monkey branch, or one-size solution for what a man must undertake to remove himself from the system. In this effort, we are all alone until such time as we emerge from that reckoning on the other side and once again endeavor to find our people.
Most of my friends are still negotiating for what they can take with them IF they were to leave the cloud city. I left the chips on the table with a straight flush in hand. They still think I am crazy. Though a little less so these days. Yet they want to know what will be on the test.
Perhaps you can rake the chips one more time on your way out. Good on ya. But I figured out that the very notion of that is why the house always wins in the end. Income, retirement savings, professional trajectory, social status, material surplus, relationships, etc. What are you willing to leave behind? Some of it? All of it?
Well said. I too have marked myself out as a dissident, and thrown everything in the air. We live in interesting times.
Thank you for sharing.
Your brave act is the only move that I believe has a high chance of working. I wish I had the freedom to be as brave. Still looking for a slightly less drastic way of leaving the rabid-rat race and appreciate the odds of getting trapped are higher the more one is tied to teh system.
Living here in Finland in a climate that needs heat to survive the winter means one needs a home that can be heated with wood, that requires capital.
yeah, come to the south of Spain, you still need the house and you still need the wood, but you can get both for much less than in most places in Europe.
(also it's just not as flipping cold)
You could probably get through it just by wearing more clothes
Both Finland and Spain have good and weak points. If one could predict how much poop is going to hit the fan one could gamble on how primitive one needs to go.
Spain is warm but proximal to Africa and what will be an endless stream of hungry people, Finland is frozen but off the beaten track and sparsely populated, and I have language skills and family here.
The question in my mind is will the situation devolve to a point where energy cannot be got at any price in which case we have mayhem in Finland too when all but the rural folk will start to get cold and hungry.
distance from Africa doesn't seem to be saving anybody from the endless stream of military aged males, most of whom don't look very hungry at all, with smart phones in hand.
Hungry people are staying where they are it seems
(that said, my town is filling with africans for olive picking season and there is no conflict at all, as they are needed and welcomed. Most of them move on to other hard work afterwards.)
Olive picking is one of the hardest jobs I ever had, and the african boys (almost all from Somalia) were strong and capable and cheerful workers, although not perfect, as indeed neither am I
THAT is my dilemma. And I so wish I wasn't alone.
There are a few of us out here. Try and link up with someone that has similar location and situation.
What Sovereign Island nation did you recently create?
Become #ungovernable —#unschool #undoctor #unbank
Historically, the only dispositive tool for ending tyranny is organized violence. Organizing effectively for such an attempt is now almost impossible given the surveillance grid. Our only hope is TPTB rot internally, that their heirs implode the thing by their degeneracy. This occupies time, and I doubt any person reading this post will ever bask in the overthrow.
Yes, at some point natures favored arbiter emerges. Yet as you say organizing is "almost impossible". We are the almost. Be the almost.
We are not many, but we are steeled to this purpose. To first preserve and protect and then arm and train a righteous People who will also be the few in their time. But who will have the skills, disposition, and spiritual mettle to build up from the ashes.
So indeed, we are tilling the soil, planting those trees which some day will cast that cool shade under which we will never sit.
Of all the generational blame, i.e. "the boomers", and other low hanging fruit of what is wrong with current year, the most wretched is the pervasive inclination to inherit that self-centered, narcissistic entitlement that sullies every endeavor toward anything right and true into the necessity to harvest the bounty up-front. A great myopia of spirit. End that.
Our elders ate our seed corn. Will we be any different?
To accept the truth of our current station is to understand that we cannot dispossess the system of its bad leadership or evil tendencies and replace it with our own better versions. Nor can we use the tools of the system to build a mass movement to rush the castles in the sky. But there is a lot one man can do. A lot more a few good men can do together.
The system is on entropy; it will fall. And then what?
The best time to plant those trees was 20 years ago. The second best is today.
They spent over 70 years building the current state of affairs. It will take just as long to dislodge it.
One more thing to consider. Once they win as a class, they will be fighting each other by individual and family as rivals for supreme power. The organized violence will be largely internecine, but that will involve factions of regular people as well.
The winner of that will win in part by being moderate to the people while putting his rivals in chains. We may be able to win a little back there, though it probably won't be in our lifetimes. The rot will begin once we have a single emperor and a hereditary imperial dynasty. That will probably happen in about another century.
Bingo.
"If people can't even be bothered to quit gmail, instashame, or stop using smartphones, the ultimate herding tool for enslavement and control, then we are all just on our own."
This is just it. Small things, but significant things, if done in significant numbers. We haven't got the numbers yet, because the vast majority are addicted to the tools of the technocratic tyranny, which they think make their lives 'better' and 'easier'. Sure they do, as they cement the steel bars in place which form their digital prison. I've NEVER owned a 'Smart' (Surveillance, Monitoring, And Recording Technology) phone. I don't watch TV and don't use Google for ANYTHING if I can help it. Any device with 'smart' written on the tin is obviously aimed at idiots who can't even use a tin-opener to see what's inside. Why can't people see? Why am I in such a tiny majority? Why am I not 'normal' for rejecting that which is seriously ABnormal?
'We' are not many and never will be. The vast majority of humanity are effectively blue-pilled brain dead and are not going to wake up until a millisecond before the thermonuclear shock wave hits them, or some such equally catastrophic event of the Endless War, kicked off in 1914 by the War to End All Wars. They were true to their word: we just got one endless war instead. What we need is a critical mass awake, which need not be a majority; it just needs to be a SIGNIFICANT minority. We've got precious little time to get there.
Canceled TV in 2012 and unsubscribed from Google/Gmail, et al as well as the venal and toxic culture long before that. You have at least one soul sister out there who's equally disgusted with the seemingly invincible ignorance of the so-called masses.
We are in a very awkward position. The tool we use to communicate is the tool that can and will be used to enslave us.
My son and I did a Amateur Radio course, need to write the test and get some basic gear. Worst case the time will come when the networks are not usable for resistance activities.
I just had a thought, we do not even need to be a significant minority, just in positions of power. Perhaps it is time to start recruiting amongst the enemy and infiltrating the media, politics, legal system, public health, banking.
I have an old 2G/3G Nokia phone which I find perfectly adequate to communicate with via simple texts and voice calls. Until such time as they take down the 2G/3G network, meaning these old phones won't work, I'll continue to use it. Then your radio communication idea might be worth considering.
We talk as if the bureaucracy is some monolithic entity that is not composed of individual people. People leading and working in these institutions make corrupt decisions. They ignore the good and do wrong for personal or ideological gain. We know who many of them are. They know we know and are not worried in the slightest about retribution.
No change is coming until very specific human beings begin to pay a very specific, very personal price for their actions. The word "accountable" is the most overused--and underpowered--word in the political lexicon. How about this: "People that do bad sh*t have to be afraid that their lives may turn to sh*t without warning"? The fact that the FBI and DoJ are among the worst perpetrators of bad sh*t should be your first clue that justice via electoral and legal paradigms is over.
Truth is being steamrolled, truth tellers silenced, and unelected elites are projecting power that they have either stolen or simply arrogated. In Brazil, three million people took to the streets. In America we wait for Godot to deliver the answers. You know what the real answer is. You just can't bring yourself to say it. Yet.
It's maybe not the saying it ... but knowing who'll also read it
"By the time the masses realize..."
You do recognize that "the masses" is the rhetoric that empowers the WEFfers, right? El Gato wants people who are ungovernable. Assign them into the category "the masses" and you've consigned them to the ash heap of participation.
Or they've consigned themselves Thomas. There's a difference.
Voting is over, as 2020 showed. But there is something more insidiuous that is coming at us with the speed of a freight train. Digital Programmable Central Bank Currency. Why? Because they HAVE TO CONTROL THE VELOCITY OF MONEY. This is also why the lockdowns.
REad the first essay of Ann Barnhardt...makes it simple and understandable. I still do not know how we fight against this: https://www.barnhardt.biz/
Estimates are it will be here by May 2023.
Everyone fears technology but we shouldn't be. We should simply understand the difference between centralized and decentralized systems. One is voluntary and one is tyranny.
The number one most important factor for determining quality of life on Earth is this:
What kind of system do you live under?
Think about it. If you tell us what kind of systems you live under - from systems of government, medicine, family, infrastructure, education, community, religion and more - chances are we can predict what kind of life you have.
Let's examine some recent problems: FTX. Voting systems. Medicine. Corruption. War. Homelessness.
It’s our own fault. All of it.
We have embraced the wrong kind of systems that govern over us - centralized ones - and they have become corrupted. It is time to change that. We need to understand and embrace decentralized systems, and fear centralized non transparent ones. And we need to be able to spot the difference.
Can you?
Once we recognize a system has been corrupted, it’s time to bust out the anecdote: TRANSPARENCY and DECENTRALIZATION.
Who wants to be part of a society of problem solvers instead of just complainers? Please, let's talk.
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/embrace-decentralized-systems-fear
For a Boomer, I'm pretty good with technology. My 30 year career(s) in Silicon Valley from 1981 to 2011--including 10 years in hardware and 20 years in software gave me a decent perspective. It especially taught me that proprietary software is inherently insecure and corruptible. The problem I have with your contentions is that the vast majority of SW is proprietary and as long as humans are driven by greed and power (forever) SW will remain insecure and systems will gravitate inexorably towards centralized control.
To take one example, let's assume that US intel (hyper-centralized) has its tendrils in virtually all hardware and software as we speak. Your solution to decentralize depends upon defanging the various intel agencies. They will not cede their control willingly, so what is your proposal to transform the current centralized state to the decentralized state? Then, there are the banks, pharma/healthcare, etc., all of them with massive accrued power protected by our massive government. They fear neither election nor the legal systems that they control.
Great idea, but you're about 50 years too late.
I don’t know what a centralized strategy would be. But I don’t need anyone to tell me what the black pill is. We have two options: either something big shifts, or we end up with Hunger Games. The latter is the easier to bank on, but we don’t have to do anything to work towards that outcome, so why would we assume it’s a foregone conclusion? We don’t yet know what we are capable of in the other direction.
I don't feel that the Hunger Games is a foregone conclusion at all. I've been saying for years now that until the perpetrators pay a very steep personal price for their actions, they will continue what they are doing. Not everybody participating in the tyranny can have WEF level security. Only when random perps and underlings begin encountering consequences will the world begin to change.
The collapse of the dollar will be the punishment for them. It will render them irrelevant, and that’s what they fear the most. To be the same as the rest of us are their worst nightmares.
No argument. But are we too late to build on the framework of the DOD?
Because basically they can take over the internet at will.
The internet is all of us. They can't "take it over at will." The best they could do is temporarily cut the power.
I get concerned when I hear freedom-oriented folks saying we have to abandon tech because it’s been weaponized against us. No. We need to take it through this evolution.
I find it important to understand *why* people voted for the system we have, first. What are the benefits of centralization? Only when I address those with alternatives, or effectively demonstrate that the risks outweigh the rewards and offer a better future, will I have any impact.
You must stop using their money too. Hard AF, but it's the only way to really stop being robbed blind. Get rid of it as soon as you get it, if you can save, use real goods, like stocking your pantry, firewood, ammo, metals, anything tangible, forcing the market to pay you back for your production as soon as possible, before any inflation robs you. Trade as local as possible, and once you have that network of local frens, exchange among them without using fed money. Invent your own, if needed. Have a group pool of resources and services registering. You can assign "market prices" to them as a mean of starting it, you can use Swiss francs, or a pool of foreign stuff, or just silver coins.
I’m encouraging my community to experiment with using Goldbacks for local trade. It’s one of many options, and they all have pluses and minuses.
Camacho was honest. I'll have Dwayne Mountain Dew Camacho any day.
In Ontario there is a party called None of the Above, a direct democracy party. Most have never heard of it though.
Voting is a major part of the explanation as to how we have arrived at this point in history. A flawed, willfully uninformed populace, with no regard for truth, is responsible for the existential plight in which we currently find ourself. "The real volte-face and revolution that society has to face is to shake off rhetoric and resolutely turn to truth as a guiding principle." The Psychology of Totalitarianism, p. 187, Mattias Desmet, 2022.
I've always thought our vote could be either positive or negative. In other words, you could vote -1 for someone. The results of an election like that could be very interesting and illuminating.
Gato's prescription:
1. Be a single-issue voter
2. Become "ungovernable"
It's so blatantly contradictory, it's just silly.
it's self reinforcing.
the more ungovernable you become, the more power you can wield to reduce the state, the more you reduce the state, the easier it becomes to be ungovernable.
anyone trying for only one or the other is going to lose.
it's fun to edge lord and say "let's just be totally ungovernable" but it's just a pose and i suspect most so saying know it.
there is no real answer there that scales beyond tiny numbers or retains anything like a modern society with full dependence on the external. we cannot all move to idaho and grow our own food and make our own shoes and never use the internet again.
and not many would want to.
so what is the actual, tangible, workable solution?
it's easy and fun to demand extremist utopian impossibilities and then mutter "sheeple" and blame everyone else when it fails, but it's no real solution, just a set of pre-made excuses to gripe while never really changing anything and claim a moral purity rooted in fabulism.
but i just cannot see it as a viable path to anywhere.
the state is not going away and you cannot just cause millions or billions to step outside it. a real solution must work from both ends and address the realities, not the fantasies.
that which is not workable cannot be a solution.
Quite interesting that you interpreted my comment as "let's just be totally ungovernable". Says a lot about you and your followers.
You're a young, rich libertarian, gradually coming to grips with the real world. It's precious. If you weren't so long-winded, I might stick around to see how your postures continue to evolve.
The quantitative analyses were what brought me here. You've been doing less and less of that, and it's getting less and less relevant.
But honestly, I've just had it with your naive political rants.
Unsubscribed.
This is a very interesting place the two of you have arrived at.
I agree with Shy Boy in that voting at all is contradictory to becoming ungovernable, but not with the subsequent ad hominem hissy fit.
“Ungovernable” needs to be better defined, imo. It can’t just mean noncompliance, because that will result in legally justifiable punitive action from the government, will it not?
Strictly speaking, being ungovernable must mean being outside the government’s jurisdiction. (Ironically, that cannot be done by a resident of Puerto Rico as it is a territory and not a state.)
Removing oneself from the government’s jurisdiction requires understanding how, when, why, and by whom said jurisdiction was established in the first place. Without having considered such fundamental questions I don’t think meaningful answers to our current predicament are possible, hence the (imho) contradictory assertion of this post.
Sorry for the "hissy fit". I guess I wasn't very clear enough. I used to be a libertarian myself, but that was long ago. I even used to run with self-identified "anarchists" and I'm pretty tired of cheap anti-voting rhetoric.
In brief, I think "ungovernable" is nonsense, and the libertarian ideological position is blind to so many aspects of human experience and culture that it's ultimately self-defeating. Once you become aware of the identity and nature of our "governors" and start examining the actual mechanisms and strategies of their "governance", you'll find it extends well beyond what we normally think of as "government".
I advocate thorough and strategic participation in politics, especially at the local level. Mere voting doesn't cut it. I also advocate non-participation in other forms of social control, and most importantly, the development of genuinely sustainable defenses and alternatives. It's much more difficult and extensive than what I understand gato to be advocating here.
Here's a Christian take on all that, from Andrew Torba (you know, the GAB guy).
https://news.gab.com/2022/11/the-path-forward-build-and-balkanize/
I don't think Torba has all the answers (like, at all) but I think he's closer to an effective strategy than this post, which is long on (to me, obvious) problems and short on (to me, believable) solutions.
Cheers!
People like the Gab founder are fooling themselves. There’s nowhere left to run. His paragraph about how you have to get the Hell out of Dodge and build something somewhere else is what every group of Pilgrims from every failed state ruled by monarchs has said for thousands of years. North America was the last place to go, and the West Coast the last land to inhabit. All successful people who generate great wealth with their liberty and enterprise will *always* be targeted by these thieves and tyrants. There is no place to run. You can build, but you’re going to have to be prepared to fight to keep whatever it is, because when they come, they’ll come in a huge mass, starving and armed to the teeth. And the longer you wait, the better organized and armed they will be.
Being registered to vote at all is acquiescence to the system of your continuing and deepening enslavement. Period.