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One of your absolute best pieces yet. Unfortunately there is no voting our way out of global technocracy. It has firmly entrenched itself across the west for four decades or longer. They control elections now which are predictable pantomimes and select leaders where there are no elections. Becoming ungovernable requires rejecting ALL of their tools for subjugation. If people can't even be bothered to quit gmail, instashame, or stop using smartphones, the ultimate herding tool for enslavement and control, then we are all just on our own. Take care of yourself and your family. Organize locally. Live remotely and prepare for absolute self sufficiency. Declare independence from their diseased systems. By the time the masses realize they've already been captured and subdued, they stand no chance of resistance. Most of them are just the walking dead.

https://thegoodcitizen.substack.com/p/atomization-variant

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Agree. Voting is futile. If we really believed in voting, there would be an option called - None of the Above. This is the no confidence vote in all the candidates on the ballot. When this option garners the most vote, then new candidates must be placed on the ballet.

This will never happen. Plus last I checked, International Org overlords such as WHO are not voted in by anybody.

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In Ontario there is a party called None of the Above, a direct democracy party. Most have never heard of it though.

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Voting is a major part of the explanation as to how we have arrived at this point in history. A flawed, willfully uninformed populace, with no regard for truth, is responsible for the existential plight in which we currently find ourself. "The real volte-face and revolution that society has to face is to shake off rhetoric and resolutely turn to truth as a guiding principle." The Psychology of Totalitarianism, p. 187, Mattias Desmet, 2022.

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I've always thought our vote could be either positive or negative. In other words, you could vote -1 for someone. The results of an election like that could be very interesting and illuminating.

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Gato's prescription:

1. Be a single-issue voter

2. Become "ungovernable"

It's so blatantly contradictory, it's just silly.

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it's self reinforcing.

the more ungovernable you become, the more power you can wield to reduce the state, the more you reduce the state, the easier it becomes to be ungovernable.

anyone trying for only one or the other is going to lose.

it's fun to edge lord and say "let's just be totally ungovernable" but it's just a pose and i suspect most so saying know it.

there is no real answer there that scales beyond tiny numbers or retains anything like a modern society with full dependence on the external. we cannot all move to idaho and grow our own food and make our own shoes and never use the internet again.

and not many would want to.

so what is the actual, tangible, workable solution?

it's easy and fun to demand extremist utopian impossibilities and then mutter "sheeple" and blame everyone else when it fails, but it's no real solution, just a set of pre-made excuses to gripe while never really changing anything and claim a moral purity rooted in fabulism.

but i just cannot see it as a viable path to anywhere.

the state is not going away and you cannot just cause millions or billions to step outside it. a real solution must work from both ends and address the realities, not the fantasies.

that which is not workable cannot be a solution.

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Quite interesting that you interpreted my comment as "let's just be totally ungovernable". Says a lot about you and your followers.

You're a young, rich libertarian, gradually coming to grips with the real world. It's precious. If you weren't so long-winded, I might stick around to see how your postures continue to evolve.

The quantitative analyses were what brought me here. You've been doing less and less of that, and it's getting less and less relevant.

But honestly, I've just had it with your naive political rants.

Unsubscribed.

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This is a very interesting place the two of you have arrived at.

I agree with Shy Boy in that voting at all is contradictory to becoming ungovernable, but not with the subsequent ad hominem hissy fit.

“Ungovernable” needs to be better defined, imo. It can’t just mean noncompliance, because that will result in legally justifiable punitive action from the government, will it not?

Strictly speaking, being ungovernable must mean being outside the government’s jurisdiction. (Ironically, that cannot be done by a resident of Puerto Rico as it is a territory and not a state.)

Removing oneself from the government’s jurisdiction requires understanding how, when, why, and by whom said jurisdiction was established in the first place. Without having considered such fundamental questions I don’t think meaningful answers to our current predicament are possible, hence the (imho) contradictory assertion of this post.

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Sorry for the "hissy fit". I guess I wasn't very clear enough. I used to be a libertarian myself, but that was long ago. I even used to run with self-identified "anarchists" and I'm pretty tired of cheap anti-voting rhetoric.

In brief, I think "ungovernable" is nonsense, and the libertarian ideological position is blind to so many aspects of human experience and culture that it's ultimately self-defeating. Once you become aware of the identity and nature of our "governors" and start examining the actual mechanisms and strategies of their "governance", you'll find it extends well beyond what we normally think of as "government".

I advocate thorough and strategic participation in politics, especially at the local level. Mere voting doesn't cut it. I also advocate non-participation in other forms of social control, and most importantly, the development of genuinely sustainable defenses and alternatives. It's much more difficult and extensive than what I understand gato to be advocating here.

Here's a Christian take on all that, from Andrew Torba (you know, the GAB guy).

https://news.gab.com/2022/11/the-path-forward-build-and-balkanize/

I don't think Torba has all the answers (like, at all) but I think he's closer to an effective strategy than this post, which is long on (to me, obvious) problems and short on (to me, believable) solutions.

Cheers!

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Being registered to vote at all is acquiescence to the system of your continuing and deepening enslavement. Period.

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I knew voting was a fraud when I realized that *both* “sides” say, “it doesn’t matter who you vote for, just vote.” Kind of tells you who wins either way.

We must reject their legitimacy wholesale and play our own game. They will come for us, but we cannot stop.

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Totally agree Sarah. Most people are so ignorant they should stay as far from the voting booth as possible. Personal example: I'm 60 years old, all my kids went to Catholic schools and the youngest graduated 7 years ago. Why should I vote in the school board election? I have no idea what any of the candidates stand for, have no idea who any of them are. Criticize me for that ignorance if you want, but I'm not going to go in there and just flip a coin and vote for someone. I pass. 90% of the public should do that across the board.

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Ironically, you should care and know more about your local candidates as this is where policy most directly impacts your life.

For example, my city is a blue stain in a red sea, and its mayor and council have attempted to nullify the state’s restrictions on abortion by claiming they’ll turn a blind eye and request the police department prioritize other infractions of the law.

Similarly, while I think government schools are beyond help and the best course of action is for people to turn their backs on the concept by withdrawing their children en masse, insofar as school boards exert control over the indoctrination of your local youth population, one could argue that THAT is where you should focus your efforts on keeping out the psychos with delusions of grandeur.

People also underestimate how powerful locally elected sheriffs and county judges can be when it comes to enforcing (or not enforcing) things like lockdowns.

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I've generally looked at it the same way. If you know nothing about the options in a particular race, then don't vote there. I usually have some serious opinion about presidential and congressional candidates, but a list of names up for the local ditch supervisory board is generally just that to me, and I don't vote on that one. Of course, I suppose that means that some ballot custodian can steal that vote if they want.

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The #government always wins!

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Except when they're supposed to regulate something. Then the winner is generally the #corporations or the #ngos.

It's always the ruling class though. #tautology

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I agree Sarah. Democracy is the true opiate of the masses, or at least the trappings of democracy that have lost the truth of self-government. Next time you hear one of them speaking substitute 'self-government' or 'independance' every time they say democracy and see if the meaning isn't 180 degrees different. Shouldn't be that way should it?

The vote has become form without content. No institution can make or preserve freedom, that must be done by men and women.

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One of the most insidious features of the technofascist progressive utopian delusion is how it conditions us from birth to value the material trappings of the inversion more than ourselves.

And once inculcated to the inversion, it systematically decreases the utility and comforts of those material things over time thereby increasing our inverted sense of value. This operant conditioning would make Skinner blush.

The solution you lay out is indeed the one before us. But it proposes a reckoning that challenges our spiritual anchoring in a time in which the comforting collateral of trading our souls - though obviously liquidating, is still a long way from the corrective discomforts that await in nature.

As you point out, there is nothing within the system that can be taken over to right the system. It is self-regulating. To ask how is to solve for that moment when FTX "went bankrupt".

I have personally made most of the moves to situate myself as a dissident. I do not recommend it in the broad sense. As the futility of describing 'acceptance' to a man still struggling with the 'denial' stage of grief is clear.

There is no model, program, monkey branch, or one-size solution for what a man must undertake to remove himself from the system. In this effort, we are all alone until such time as we emerge from that reckoning on the other side and once again endeavor to find our people.

Most of my friends are still negotiating for what they can take with them IF they were to leave the cloud city. I left the chips on the table with a straight flush in hand. They still think I am crazy. Though a little less so these days. Yet they want to know what will be on the test.

Perhaps you can rake the chips one more time on your way out. Good on ya. But I figured out that the very notion of that is why the house always wins in the end. Income, retirement savings, professional trajectory, social status, material surplus, relationships, etc. What are you willing to leave behind? Some of it? All of it?

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Well said. I too have marked myself out as a dissident, and thrown everything in the air. We live in interesting times.

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Thank you for sharing.

Your brave act is the only move that I believe has a high chance of working. I wish I had the freedom to be as brave. Still looking for a slightly less drastic way of leaving the rabid-rat race and appreciate the odds of getting trapped are higher the more one is tied to teh system.

Living here in Finland in a climate that needs heat to survive the winter means one needs a home that can be heated with wood, that requires capital.

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yeah, come to the south of Spain, you still need the house and you still need the wood, but you can get both for much less than in most places in Europe.

(also it's just not as flipping cold)

You could probably get through it just by wearing more clothes

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Both Finland and Spain have good and weak points. If one could predict how much poop is going to hit the fan one could gamble on how primitive one needs to go.

Spain is warm but proximal to Africa and what will be an endless stream of hungry people, Finland is frozen but off the beaten track and sparsely populated, and I have language skills and family here.

The question in my mind is will the situation devolve to a point where energy cannot be got at any price in which case we have mayhem in Finland too when all but the rural folk will start to get cold and hungry.

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distance from Africa doesn't seem to be saving anybody from the endless stream of military aged males, most of whom don't look very hungry at all, with smart phones in hand.

Hungry people are staying where they are it seems

(that said, my town is filling with africans for olive picking season and there is no conflict at all, as they are needed and welcomed. Most of them move on to other hard work afterwards.)

Olive picking is one of the hardest jobs I ever had, and the african boys (almost all from Somalia) were strong and capable and cheerful workers, although not perfect, as indeed neither am I

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THAT is my dilemma. And I so wish I wasn't alone.

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There are a few of us out here. Try and link up with someone that has similar location and situation.

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What Sovereign Island nation did you recently create?

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Become #ungovernable —#unschool #undoctor #unbank

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Historically, the only dispositive tool for ending tyranny is organized violence. Organizing effectively for such an attempt is now almost impossible given the surveillance grid. Our only hope is TPTB rot internally, that their heirs implode the thing by their degeneracy. This occupies time, and I doubt any person reading this post will ever bask in the overthrow.

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Yes, at some point natures favored arbiter emerges. Yet as you say organizing is "almost impossible". We are the almost. Be the almost.

We are not many, but we are steeled to this purpose. To first preserve and protect and then arm and train a righteous People who will also be the few in their time. But who will have the skills, disposition, and spiritual mettle to build up from the ashes.

So indeed, we are tilling the soil, planting those trees which some day will cast that cool shade under which we will never sit.

Of all the generational blame, i.e. "the boomers", and other low hanging fruit of what is wrong with current year, the most wretched is the pervasive inclination to inherit that self-centered, narcissistic entitlement that sullies every endeavor toward anything right and true into the necessity to harvest the bounty up-front. A great myopia of spirit. End that.

Our elders ate our seed corn. Will we be any different?

To accept the truth of our current station is to understand that we cannot dispossess the system of its bad leadership or evil tendencies and replace it with our own better versions. Nor can we use the tools of the system to build a mass movement to rush the castles in the sky. But there is a lot one man can do. A lot more a few good men can do together.

The system is on entropy; it will fall. And then what?

The best time to plant those trees was 20 years ago. The second best is today.

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They spent over 70 years building the current state of affairs. It will take just as long to dislodge it.

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One more thing to consider. Once they win as a class, they will be fighting each other by individual and family as rivals for supreme power. The organized violence will be largely internecine, but that will involve factions of regular people as well.

The winner of that will win in part by being moderate to the people while putting his rivals in chains. We may be able to win a little back there, though it probably won't be in our lifetimes. The rot will begin once we have a single emperor and a hereditary imperial dynasty. That will probably happen in about another century.

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Bingo.

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"If people can't even be bothered to quit gmail, instashame, or stop using smartphones, the ultimate herding tool for enslavement and control, then we are all just on our own."

This is just it. Small things, but significant things, if done in significant numbers. We haven't got the numbers yet, because the vast majority are addicted to the tools of the technocratic tyranny, which they think make their lives 'better' and 'easier'. Sure they do, as they cement the steel bars in place which form their digital prison. I've NEVER owned a 'Smart' (Surveillance, Monitoring, And Recording Technology) phone. I don't watch TV and don't use Google for ANYTHING if I can help it. Any device with 'smart' written on the tin is obviously aimed at idiots who can't even use a tin-opener to see what's inside. Why can't people see? Why am I in such a tiny majority? Why am I not 'normal' for rejecting that which is seriously ABnormal?

'We' are not many and never will be. The vast majority of humanity are effectively blue-pilled brain dead and are not going to wake up until a millisecond before the thermonuclear shock wave hits them, or some such equally catastrophic event of the Endless War, kicked off in 1914 by the War to End All Wars. They were true to their word: we just got one endless war instead. What we need is a critical mass awake, which need not be a majority; it just needs to be a SIGNIFICANT minority. We've got precious little time to get there.

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Canceled TV in 2012 and unsubscribed from Google/Gmail, et al as well as the venal and toxic culture long before that. You have at least one soul sister out there who's equally disgusted with the seemingly invincible ignorance of the so-called masses.

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We are in a very awkward position. The tool we use to communicate is the tool that can and will be used to enslave us.

My son and I did a Amateur Radio course, need to write the test and get some basic gear. Worst case the time will come when the networks are not usable for resistance activities.

I just had a thought, we do not even need to be a significant minority, just in positions of power. Perhaps it is time to start recruiting amongst the enemy and infiltrating the media, politics, legal system, public health, banking.

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I have an old 2G/3G Nokia phone which I find perfectly adequate to communicate with via simple texts and voice calls. Until such time as they take down the 2G/3G network, meaning these old phones won't work, I'll continue to use it. Then your radio communication idea might be worth considering.

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We talk as if the bureaucracy is some monolithic entity that is not composed of individual people. People leading and working in these institutions make corrupt decisions. They ignore the good and do wrong for personal or ideological gain. We know who many of them are. They know we know and are not worried in the slightest about retribution.

No change is coming until very specific human beings begin to pay a very specific, very personal price for their actions. The word "accountable" is the most overused--and underpowered--word in the political lexicon. How about this: "People that do bad sh*t have to be afraid that their lives may turn to sh*t without warning"? The fact that the FBI and DoJ are among the worst perpetrators of bad sh*t should be your first clue that justice via electoral and legal paradigms is over.

Truth is being steamrolled, truth tellers silenced, and unelected elites are projecting power that they have either stolen or simply arrogated. In Brazil, three million people took to the streets. In America we wait for Godot to deliver the answers. You know what the real answer is. You just can't bring yourself to say it. Yet.

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It's maybe not the saying it ... but knowing who'll also read it

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"By the time the masses realize..."

You do recognize that "the masses" is the rhetoric that empowers the WEFfers, right? El Gato wants people who are ungovernable. Assign them into the category "the masses" and you've consigned them to the ash heap of participation.

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Or they've consigned themselves Thomas. There's a difference.

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Voting is over, as 2020 showed. But there is something more insidiuous that is coming at us with the speed of a freight train. Digital Programmable Central Bank Currency. Why? Because they HAVE TO CONTROL THE VELOCITY OF MONEY. This is also why the lockdowns.

REad the first essay of Ann Barnhardt...makes it simple and understandable. I still do not know how we fight against this: https://www.barnhardt.biz/

Estimates are it will be here by May 2023.

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Agree. Covid lockdowns and bioweapons are child's play to what is coming.

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Everyone fears technology but we shouldn't be. We should simply understand the difference between centralized and decentralized systems. One is voluntary and one is tyranny.

The number one most important factor for determining quality of life on Earth is this:

What kind of system do you live under?

Think about it. If you tell us what kind of systems you live under - from systems of government, medicine, family, infrastructure, education, community, religion and more - chances are we can predict what kind of life you have.

Let's examine some recent problems: FTX. Voting systems. Medicine. Corruption. War. Homelessness.

It’s our own fault. All of it.

We have embraced the wrong kind of systems that govern over us - centralized ones - and they have become corrupted. It is time to change that. We need to understand and embrace decentralized systems, and fear centralized non transparent ones. And we need to be able to spot the difference.

Can you?

Once we recognize a system has been corrupted, it’s time to bust out the anecdote: TRANSPARENCY and DECENTRALIZATION.

Who wants to be part of a society of problem solvers instead of just complainers? Please, let's talk.

https://joshketry.substack.com/p/embrace-decentralized-systems-fear

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For a Boomer, I'm pretty good with technology. My 30 year career(s) in Silicon Valley from 1981 to 2011--including 10 years in hardware and 20 years in software gave me a decent perspective. It especially taught me that proprietary software is inherently insecure and corruptible. The problem I have with your contentions is that the vast majority of SW is proprietary and as long as humans are driven by greed and power (forever) SW will remain insecure and systems will gravitate inexorably towards centralized control.

To take one example, let's assume that US intel (hyper-centralized) has its tendrils in virtually all hardware and software as we speak. Your solution to decentralize depends upon defanging the various intel agencies. They will not cede their control willingly, so what is your proposal to transform the current centralized state to the decentralized state? Then, there are the banks, pharma/healthcare, etc., all of them with massive accrued power protected by our massive government. They fear neither election nor the legal systems that they control.

Great idea, but you're about 50 years too late.

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I don’t know what a centralized strategy would be. But I don’t need anyone to tell me what the black pill is. We have two options: either something big shifts, or we end up with Hunger Games. The latter is the easier to bank on, but we don’t have to do anything to work towards that outcome, so why would we assume it’s a foregone conclusion? We don’t yet know what we are capable of in the other direction.

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I don't feel that the Hunger Games is a foregone conclusion at all. I've been saying for years now that until the perpetrators pay a very steep personal price for their actions, they will continue what they are doing. Not everybody participating in the tyranny can have WEF level security. Only when random perps and underlings begin encountering consequences will the world begin to change.

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The collapse of the dollar will be the punishment for them. It will render them irrelevant, and that’s what they fear the most. To be the same as the rest of us are their worst nightmares.

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No argument. But are we too late to build on the framework of the DOD?

Because basically they can take over the internet at will.

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The internet is all of us. They can't "take it over at will." The best they could do is temporarily cut the power.

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I get concerned when I hear freedom-oriented folks saying we have to abandon tech because it’s been weaponized against us. No. We need to take it through this evolution.

I find it important to understand *why* people voted for the system we have, first. What are the benefits of centralization? Only when I address those with alternatives, or effectively demonstrate that the risks outweigh the rewards and offer a better future, will I have any impact.

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You must stop using their money too. Hard AF, but it's the only way to really stop being robbed blind. Get rid of it as soon as you get it, if you can save, use real goods, like stocking your pantry, firewood, ammo, metals, anything tangible, forcing the market to pay you back for your production as soon as possible, before any inflation robs you. Trade as local as possible, and once you have that network of local frens, exchange among them without using fed money. Invent your own, if needed. Have a group pool of resources and services registering. You can assign "market prices" to them as a mean of starting it, you can use Swiss francs, or a pool of foreign stuff, or just silver coins.

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I’m encouraging my community to experiment with using Goldbacks for local trade. It’s one of many options, and they all have pluses and minuses.

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Camacho was honest. I'll have Dwayne Mountain Dew Camacho any day.

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I started reading your posts about a year ago. It's been interesting to see your evolution in thinking about our plight. As crazy as it sounds, worldwide conspiracy is the most logical explanation for the apparent madness that's gripped the world.

Dr. Yeadon (and many others who sounded the alarm early on) needs to come out now and take a bow. He was so horribly, horribly correct.

Memes are great. We must mock these evil people and the fools who carry out their plans, but I don't think that we are going to meme our way out of this one.

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Agree John.

I can't help but believe the answer lies in educating our next door neighbors.

If they were aware of 10% of what we know then I think we could head some of the worse off. I believe many would be outraged.

Otherwise they could very well be the jack boots at our door down the road.

At the end of the day I feel like it's either that or polish and oil steel for preparation. This is unsustainable and is only going to get "suckier" as the days go on.

No matter what:

We can be leaders now or leaders when are backs are literally against the wall.

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Two observations:

- I have noticed a complete inability of my "neighbors" to understand basic facts when they are presented with them. I have no definitive answer for this phenomena, merely speculations.

- Our backs are already against the wall Bubba!

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Isn't that the truth! I can't even get my own sister to understand that the "vaccine" for which she continues to cheerlead doesn't work (at BEST). She has had covid twice. It's truly mind boggling.

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True. True.

Perhaps it's because our "message" is disjointed without clear objectives?

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Let me tell ya a little story. We live in an HOA. Several years ago the board decided that the stucco on the exteriors of the homes was defective and was the cause of all kinds of bad things. I was among a group of residents who asked for more info than the engineering firm( a branch of which also got the contract to remediate) we had hired was providing. Also, note that we are connected to another community of stucco clad homes that are in a different association. Our “ protest” group was gaining some ground by door knocking and having meetings. The board then had a big invitation only meeting which excluded all of us at which they showed homes collapsing in California. According to the board, the collapse was caused by stucco exteriors. Overnight things changed. “ Neighbors” hated us , much mischief ensued, threatening mail sent, dog poop at front doors, etc. because we wanted “ neighbors “ homes to collapse. Of course, once the fear entered, we lost in our effort. We all paid a very hefty assessment and our homes were recladded with another product. This was 10 years ago. The homes connected but not in the association are still stucco exteriors and still standing.

Our message was not disjointed. Our objectives were clear but we could not overcome the tool of fear. Perhaps I was naive but I was astounded at the degree of venom expressed neighbor to neighbor.

To your point, I am trying to speak with some folks now but not getting very far. I think people are inured to so much. These endless wars that are the subject here also wreak endless “ collateral damage”. How can my triple jabbed friend who has had Covid twice not be angry? I don’t know.

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Fear is incredibly powerful. It is disproportionately powerful in a population not used to hardship. We are soft, and we will pay for it.

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I Am Not A Lawyer, but if the HOA is holding secret meetings and retaliating against homeowners who are questioning questionable assessments, that sounds actionable.

I would not be the least bit surprised if the ones pushing these unnecessary repairs have some familial or financial connection to the engineering firm and/or contractor.

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Your first mistake was buying where there is an HOA. Joking not joking.

I can’t quite understand the logic of persecuting stucco-house neighbors though. I guess it’s something like “ your unvaccinated house lowers the value of my vaccinated house.” Real Estate is such a rich playing field for the banks and local Gooberment for fleecing the marks. In a nearby county there was a run-up in prices that doubled prices in about 7 years. There were a lot of poor former middle class old people living out their days in vintage “single wide” “mobiles” bothering nobody. The county got excited about accessing the real estate higher and started A frenzy of “red-tagging” the old dwellings. They (the old folks) were holding us back, right? “Improve your property or else!” Meanwhile everybody who could swing a hammer was building a crappy “spec house.” Suddenly the boom ended and house prices dropped 50% almost overnight. A young man I knew had just bought a place for $300,000 with his sister that a month later was assessed at $160,000! They walked away, leaving their down payment. It was sad. People are going to have to learn to think critically again.

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Like.

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I think the message is clear, it's just not welcome. And the messaging is often twisted in some Orwellian fashion as the Left is so fond of doing. Long ago, they successfully redefined the notion of America First! as a dog whistle for white supremacy. Now it's simply taken as Gospel.

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You're killin me Smalls...😂😂😂

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I'm curious how much success anyone has had in educating neighbors? Truly. I'm not good at planting tiny seeds. And if you mention any of this to a person whos blissfully unaware, they literally walk away deepee in denial. I find myself too tired explain it to anyone any longer. The actual horror of what's happening to our Country and the deliberate dismantling of our freedom, the parceling out of our assets (land, money,resources) intentionally inflicting innumerous medical harms, taking away our right to move about, dismantling food production and farming only to replace it with lab created garbage... When you see any of this in print, and even fractionally believe it's going on, how do you tell people about this??? It sounds insane, but its happening.

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" Pissing into the wind, talking to the mirror ,preaching to the choir " those phrases is exactly what I feel guys! I don't know how you turn this around. " History will repeat itself " it starts with war and ends with war ! " rinse and repeat " comes to mind! God help us 🙏

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Oh , and I love Bob Marley!

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Indeed.

Last year at my men’s group at church, I happened to be talking to another guy I didn’t know well but who had sat beside me at my table a few times.

We had a pleasant conversation about the company I used to work for, whose logo he had recognized and whose products had helped him and his wife, and then my based friend came over and somehow the topic shifted to the “vaccines” (which was interesting since we had literally been talking about health a moment earlier as my former company made products and holds a philosophy focused on health as wealth, garbage in, garbage out, etc.)

I recall sensing the tension rising, so I tried to diplomatically intervene by saying something to the effect of, “I know I’m going to sound crazy, but the media is lying to you about how safe and effective they are.”

I probably attempted to share a data point or two to lend myself credibility, but it was astonishing how the guy I’d previously been having a cordial conversation with about getting in shape just moments prior suddenly interjected, “You guys are both kooks!” and stormed away!

My other friend and I almost thought he was playing a joke on us it was so sudden and unexpected. At no point did either of us deride anyone or go full Alex Jones about space lasers and lizard people.

The simple contradiction of the mainstream narrative was enough to terrify this guy, and THAT’S when I knew people were never really scared of the “unvaccinated” killing them; they were (and are) terrified of free-thinkers who dare to point out the emperor is wearing no clothes.

To his credit, this guy actually did approach me a few weeks later and sheepishly apologized, which I never expected. And we’ve had a few other occasions to see each other which seem to have repaired that blunder. At least, I tried to use the opportunity to practice the Christian charity we’re all there to cultivate.

But it was an eye-opening experience and one which has made me despair of breaking through to anyone, no matter how gentle and honeyed my approach might be.

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You are fortunate to have them just walk away. Whenever I try to have such a conversation, even in a very polite and non-threatening way, it usually evokes an instantaneous rage. You could spit in someone's face and get receive a less hostile reaction. The mere suggestion that there are other, valid points of view (and plenty of objective data to back them up) shatters their delicate bubbles. It's like they *know* something very, very bad is going on but have made a conscious decision to both ignore it and to persecute anyone who doesn't play along.

And it seems to me that it's getting worse with each passing day. Instead of wallowing in smug self-satisfaction that the big, bad Red Wave never materialized, they are angrier than ever.

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I sense blame totally misplaced 🙂 It’s not the sower, but rather the soil. Not even soil as such, but that it’s buried under impenetrable lid of denial. Blissful is the key word in blissful ignorance. Hence wilful. IQ is irrelevant, if not detrimental b/c makes it easier to devise elaborate excuses/justifications.

One needs courage to learn what he doesn’t want to learn (way too scary, therefore blocked in misguided self-defence at subconscious level). The ultimate human virtue of courage is not exactly widespread in modern world spoiled by comfort 🤷😟

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Like. Agree. We all sound like crazy people...lab meat, etc ...I don't think we can wake them up if they aren't already.

I am looking at the stillbirth rates....and the parents are not even having autopsies done

I thought maybe women would wake up....but I am not sanguine.

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I am still willing to consider the possibility that education can make a difference, but am becoming increasingly convinced that we have passed the point of no return.

First of all, as we all know, leftists (and this includes most Republicans, who are collectivist-statist to the core) are nearly impervious to facts and logic, which are the basis of education. Given the events of the last three years, it is apparent that they will believe anything, regardless of how facially absurd and dangerous, and tow the narrative line to avoid being ostracized, even at the cost of their own, and even their children's, personal health and safety.

"As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities."

~ Voltaire

Second, and far more dangerous, are the plethora of atrocities made possible by the combination of gullibility, ignorance, and moral depravity of the American electorate.

Large segments of the population support the endless wars, in which the USG has slaughtered some 20 million, and displaced countless millions more, over just the last few decades.

A solid majority swallowed whole the entirely of the covid narrative nonsense. A plurality of Democrats want to throw the un-jabbed into concentration camps and/or keep them under house arrest, deny them medical care, travel, etc.

All of this, and much more besides, are the culmination of a century of progressivism, which has bankrupted our nation in every way: financial, social, moral and intellectual.

Progressive corporatists have not only captured and corrupted the levers of the State, media and academia, but also the hearts, minds and souls of the population at large.

This sorry and dangerous state of affairs required decades to bring to fruition, and it self-evidently cannot be undone via elections, as the voters themselves have been brainwashed to perpetuate the status quo.

As for polishing and oiling steel, this is problematic. Having captured all other major institutions, the progressive barbarians have set their sights on the US military, which will increasingly consist of people far more interested in enforcing woke edicts than honoring Constitutional oaths.

Leftists have destroyed every economy they've ever seized control of, and ours is no exception, and what many of us have seen as inevitable for quite some time appears to now be imminent.

When the USD crashes, and it will, leviathan will crash with it.

We need to be ready, as that may be yet another extremely rare opportunity, as were the conditions leading to the American Revolution, for us to once again establish a free nation.

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Liberte,I think there is a lot of sense in what you say here. I have saved it (hope you don't mind) and am gonna mull it over (i am not a quick thinker)....and I so hope that if it happens as you say, you are right. I think we have to be ready. Thank you.

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I think you're right, Ryan. The most important thing we can do is talk about what's going on. Maybe start by criticizing the government's response and pointing out how they lied to us: masks are useless, the vaccines do not stop transmission, etc. Tell them herd immunity through vaccination was perhaps their biggest lie. Point out the absurdity and immorality of vaccine passports.

Mention, always, that this is not like your everyday flu vaccine. They inject you with the toxic spike protein, which then travels through your body and settles in your organs doing God knows what. I'm astonished by the number of people not aware of this fact. Ask them if they remember when the "experts" assured them this was impossible.

Talk about mortality rates increasing in highly vaccinated nations AFTER "vaccine" rollout. My brother-in-law has printed out graphs clearly illustrating the catastrophe and shows them to everyone who does not dismiss him as a lunatic.

I am not Doc Holliday, but I am a dentist. Covid screenings were required in order to resume practicing after being declared non-essential. Out of curiosity, I would ask patients if they'd been vaccinated. After expressing my skepticism and mentioning that I am not vaxxed, patients would open up about the awful side-effects they, or someone they knew closely, suffered. From them I learned of clots, strokes, aggressive cancers, diabetes diagnosis AFTER losing weight, heart attacks, paralysis, and even death (previously healthy 36yo/23 yo dying of heart attack and pulmonary embolism respectively). In all my years of practice, I have never seen anything like it.

I am convinced that they are not done with us yet. We have to break through to as many people as possible in order to have as many allies as possible before they eliminate us. And yes, I really think that's where this is headed.

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"I am not Doc Holliday, but I am a dentist."

Please tell me that you are a gunslinger. If not, then I am thoroughly disillusioned...🥲

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Rest assured, Mrhounddog, I have quite an assortment of firearms.

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I have been thinking about this a lot today. You need an assortment of one-liners that incorporate your profession as well as your martial hobby. How about we start with:

"Fluoride will be least of your worries when I give you a Vitamin-L injection."

or

"Cavities? I'll show you cavities."

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I hope your lungs are OK.

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Thank you for sharing this.

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You bet, Duchess. Hang in there.

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🗨 And when havoc strikes it is the ones who are officially in charge who often freeze or come unhinged. That's when the true leaders who might not be near the top simply because they have the good sense to avoid competitive, back-stabbing people, rise to the occasion and assume the role of hard, risky leadership that no one else, in times of crises, really wants.

🗨 Perhaps the most important question facing our civilization over the next 40 years is not how inadequate leaders become inadequate leaders, but what characteristics of human nature cause us to so consistently choose the most inadequate among us and elevate them to positions where they can do the most harm.

~~Charles Pellegrino, Ghosts of the Titanic, 2000(!)

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There was a SubStack post (I think) about exactly that but I struggle to search for older posts not remembering who posted.. The takeaway was that it is a side effect of crony capitalism. Bad leaders use eloquent idiots to promote them until a time comes that the eloquent idiots oust them and remain in power without having any skills to govern even in a despotic way.

I suppose this leaves the reigns free for the elite to manipulate as they please.

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Not sure if this is what you are remembering, but it does articulate much of the same themes:

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/gatos-postulate

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Yes in deed, thank you, reading it again it still makes sense and when we mesh it in with Mattias Desmet's explanation of "mass formation" as a way that the voters also fall in line we have a situation that is near unstoppable.

The problem is that there is no people who are ready, willing or even able to asses facts or truth, how can they be reached when they wield enough power to cancel anyone who tries to educate them or the voters?

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Our "neighbors" are terrified of even considering anything outside of their carefully cultivated comfort zones. The reality is simply incomprehensible. Or at the the very least, not worth the social debasement. Best to just go along to get along and pretend that all is OK.

Because to suggest otherwise might subject you to being sent off into the corn field by a young Will Robinson (Billy Mummy). "It's good that you made your sister go away."

Yes, I'm dating myself.

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Watch your steps: if you fall in love w/ yourself, you'll hardly meet any rivals 😉

To sound a serious note, I dislike the derogatory sheeple moniker, but gee willikers, ain't it apt!

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“And that the deaths that we saw, I’m afraid, were medical malpractice at best and murder at worst.”

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Yes, sending people away without treatment and instructing them to return only when they experience difficulty breathing was criminal.

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Like.

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Like.

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Right. As concerned as Dr. Yeadon has been about the shots, he has been more concerned about CBDC. His worries are in the right place.

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Yeadon was a prophet. Everything he said.

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And still we don’t read our Bible and see that God’s predictions are unfolding one by one. So far God’s predictions have been 100% over the target. Not just what is happening but what has happened. Why would He be wrong about the the world having a one world leader, the mark required to sell or buy, the ability to communicate all over the world at once, wars and rumors of wars... We read 1984 and see its reality, but neglect to read the one book that tells it all. If you want to know the end of the story, it’s right there in the Bible. Please, I beg you to open your eyes and hearts to the only world Savior. Man is not the answer. We are at war with evil.

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Linda, this resonates. In lieu of fairy tale and myth, my father read to me straight from Revelation and the other books of prophecy, when I was very young (age 4 - 8). He was very deliberate about it, and though it caused me some years of anxiety, I now understand better the nature of his effort. It was a gift that I could not understand for the longest time. And it was highly atypical. Many people simply CANNOT comprehend the point you've made because it seems too outlandish. You are correct. We are at war with Evil, and none of this should surprise anyone but, of course, it does because Satan is very, very good at his job.

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As good as Satan may be at his job, Revelation makes it clear that God wins in the end. The forces of evil are gathered up and cast into the lake of fire and brimstone.

But it gets ugly before it's over. Satan wins many battles along the way (he's won quite a few lately). Satan is very seductive.

But God is not fooled, nor is He amused.

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Yes, exactly.

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And he is not mocked. And these globalist...they are mocking him.

I didn't really believe until later in life when I had read more, and looked at more, and realized that life on Earth was carefully choreographed, and that every little thing was designed to go with every other thing (except killing..animals eating other animals and I include humans with that). When you look at what is NOT known about everyting from the human immune system to the stars in the galaxy, how can you NOT believe in intelligence behind it? Look at DNA/RNA. The HUBRIS of man cannot even now know what they have wrought. I think that heaven is where the lion lays down with the lamb, and we no longer need to eat meat to survive( eating other animals may have given us our brains but it might have been also original sin...still thinking). But I see heaven/God/whtever as this. When there is no need to kill other animals to survie.

I know, I'm an idiot and a dreamer...

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...not...

There are numerous quantum physicists and astronomers, who generally start out atheist or at best agnostic, and who as they learn more about the Universe, come to the recognition that there is no way in Heaven that all of the things (like universal physical constants -- charge of the electron, speed of light, mass of basic particles) that need to be 'right' for the Universe to work, could possibly have happened without some sort of Plan, implying the existence of a Planner. As in, if they were wrong by one digit in the 15th place, the Universe would not exist.

So yes, there is indeed physical evidence for the existence of God.

Most of us come to believe in Him on the basis of much more personal experiences, but as you know, God comes to each, in their own way.

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Linda, you are so correct. We need to pray--for ourselves, our family, and our country.

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Yes. I am reading my Bible every night. I don't pretend to understand Revelations...but

I am glad for people like you.

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Linda, Miss Teacup and Ruth,

Not having read Revelations myself I have read people try to fit the predictions to many things, both past and present. Some things fit, others do not and the predictions have been made over and over so even as we look at the present situation and how closely it matches it may still only be the beginning and 10 years from now we will see the predictions are 'reality' and what we thought was a match now was a misguided approximation.

Now the issue I have with Revelations and most other religious texts is they are unable to offer very much concrete advice for society, sure they offer 'peace' to the individual and for a single adult that is almost enough, however with children one expects a bit more practical advice than saving one's immortal soul in the hereafter.

So while Revelations can offer us guidance, were do we go for practical advice on how to handle the angry mobs? I have no desire to kill people so would prefer an orderly devolution of centralised power where technological progress is not reversed. What practical points can the good book from thousands of years ago offer in the here and now?

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I think we won't be able to give you a very satisfying answer on how the Bible can be used to shield us from angry mobs. That's not it's purpose.

But Erin has some good suggestions. I think that doing things that increase your capability is good, and helps to dispell some of the fear. For me one of those things was learning to shoot. I do not ever want to have to use this skill, but if it comes to that at least I know that I can.

We're sort of in uncharted waters, here, because of the technology. Do literally anything at all that is practical. Run thought experiments like what you'd do if you were debanked, the power was off for a month, there was no heat, and, yes, a mob was heading toward you. Seriously. Make lists of actions you could take, then implement a few of them. All of our preparations and plans might count for nothing, but make them anyway.

We're not supposed to be passive. But we are to trust that, ultimately, God is calling the shots.

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Very well stated. Thank you

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I too would prefer such an orderly devolution of centralized power. Yet gato's proffered practical suggestions for hastening that outcome seem as impractical to me as a Messiah who is meant to overcome by the power of the Cross.

But I have faith in the latter, and the former seems to me little more than a fantasy, rousing words against despair, but an outcome that will never come to be.

Revelation may support our taking a step back from the goods of the world and the things that we think make our lives livable, in line with those on here who suggest ditching our smart phones, etc. Cf. the letters to the seven churches, particularly that to Laodicea beginning at Rev. 3:14.

But it seems to me that the book's message is about keeping hope alive in the midst of terrible things that have and will come to pass, because Christ has conquered, is conquering, and will conquer. The book is not in the business of offering practical advice beyond: endure, take heart, keep your head up.

Determining practical steps falls to our prudential judgment. Keep some jugs of water in the basement, stop using gmail, and either vote or don't vote, depending on where you stand on that question. Maybe buy gold and freeze dried food, or invest in crypto. Buy several acres of land remote from the city. Shield your vehicle against EMPs. Buy ammo. Go vegan to avoid having to eat bugs. Hack the FBI.

One may be blessed to find love and goodness, in spite of the evil around us. But to undervalue the life to come is, I believe, to miss the boat that Revelation points to. The mother in Second Machabees ch. 7 understood this, when her family came face to face with the ultimate decision at the hands of temporal rulers who demanded compliance against what she and her sons knew was right.

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Beautifully explained. Thank you.

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Yeah, not all that heartening suggestions. I have my faith, living master, same solution as Jesus, faith, trust, it's just fate and Karma, don't get too absorbed in the material world.

I do not fear for me, I am simply monumentally irritated that there are no guarantees I can offer my family and no choices that are a sure thing or even break even chances.

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Please for your intellectual and spiritual well being read the book of Revelation. For a better understanding of the Bible, read it all. Many have tried to disprove the Bible’s predictions. But when really researched, none have accomplished their goal. Many in trying to disprove the accuracy of the Bible have come to a belief in the One True God. It could change your whole life. Praying for you. May God bless you.

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We as God’s creation can only read the Bible and know all is in God’s hands and His timeframe. The main message is to love and to pray. What was written 1000s of years ago still stands as His word.

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I hope people like yourself will figure it out.

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Damn, this post had a lot of rise-up-from-my-seat (if I weren’t already standing) hip-hip-huzzah cheers in it 👏

On the topic of forever-war, I can’t help but return to the epigraph I shared at the beginning of my Veterans Day guest piece by a recently departed Vietnam vet (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/my-war-missive-from-a-fallen-veteran):

“All this madness, all this rage, all this flaming death of our civilization and our hopes, has been brought about because a set of official gentlemen, living luxurious lives, mostly stupid, and all without imagination or heart, have chosen that it should occur rather than that any one of them should suffer some infinitesimal rebuff to his country’s pride.”

—Bertrand Russell on World War I

“the cardigan adorned james bond villain aspirant himself” 😆

Don’t forget “philanthropath” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-philanthropath-dreams)! My hope is to inextricably bind that term to Bill Gates so no one will be able to see him or his name without thinking of that.

“the guy that sells and pushes vaccines will have control of an unaccountable international agency (the WHO) that can literally decide at the stroke of a pen what new drug you must put into your body to be allowed to travel.”

YES! Precisely what I warned about in this piece:

• “What If They Threw a Pandemic & Nobody Came?” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/what-if-they-threw-a-pandemic-and)

“until having been a WEF young global leader is viewed in the same fashion as having been an SS-sturmbannführer and having pimped for ESG funds and DEI scores for companies is reviled as having been a profiteering collaborator, no one will be safe.”

I have been saying this as well. People need to become so sensitized to the rancid, eugenicist, totalitarian stench of the WEF that they recoil from it and anyone associated with it in disgust.

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The Nazis didn't lose, they came home to Amerika (#Faucism).

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Operation Paperclip - not just the rocket and science guys; lots of intelligence, psych warfare specialists as well. I have heard it as: "The Nazis didn't lose, they just changed sides". What's the difference? Fascism - couple different flavors - was the ideology of the 1930s. And still is.

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True and oh so terrifying.

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In diving a little deeper it becomes clear as to which American families and American businesses actually aided Hitler in his rise to power and the carnage his regime heaped on some Germans and the Jews. Not all is as innocent as history has portrayed.

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https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250148957/hitlersamericanfriends

There were ordinary Americans and "American families" allied with the National Socialists and their goals; (e.g. from the above account: "...the Silver Shirt Legion, run by an eccentric...") but there is also a long standing effort to use that history to obscure the very substantial contributions made by American corporations and the encouragement of US government officials - not an eccentric to be found among such! You can find FDR cabinet members openly praising NS - mostly economic - policies in a wistful if-only-we-could-do-the-same way. Plenty of covering for and minimizing of NS Jewish policies to be found as well in that strata.

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MAA so glad to find you here

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You ROCK Margaret!✊️

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Doesn't she? :-) She is beyond excellent.

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