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Has it stopped being hyperbolic to call this a crime against humanity yet?

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Which one?

Releasing or leaking an engineered virus?

Social and financial destruction form lockdowns they knew were either too late or ineffective?

Or the fake vaccine and all it's bullshit?

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Or my favorite- the decision to treat no one until their lips turned blue and were rushed to the hospital!

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How ThAT very followed protocol alone did nOT alert every single person - a smAck in the face WTFU moment - we were/aRe in a pLandemic, is still beyond my comprehension. I've totally lost faith and trust in every single person, my entire family, I've been able to count on my entire life.

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I can potentially explain the "no treatment until your lips are blue."

Simple explanation: they want people to die.

Longer explanation: think about what happened to hospitals in 2020. They shut whole sections of the hospital down and delayed procedures because "pandemic." They assisted people in early death. And then... when people got sick with C0VID, they waited until the last minute to admit them to the emergency ward, then used an FDA approved procedure that killed them. Most were elderly; many died and saved the government money on SS and Medicare. So... a win. They even put CV patients in nursing homes to kill the elderly. And remember... the people in the heart ward, the cancer ward, and other wards were NOT working on CV patients. So the hospitals really had limited beds.

BTW... I know two people who were more than likely killed by the hospital. And... we were lucky. My husband got "CV pneumonia," aka pneumonia and went to the hospital twice. Big hospital was full and sent him home with meds that did nothing. Five days later we sent him by ambulance to a smaller regional hospital and he recovered in 2 days. God was looing out for us.

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Keep in mind that before our Plague Era, media routinely published gruesome stories on the medical errors that kill thousands every year.

Then miraculously all hospitals were run by and staffed with the saintly and wise.

Only difference here is the visibility. Hence the aggressive censorship; they never needed it before. People would read the sad stories of bungling butchery and turn the page. Suddenly it was affecting almost everyone they knew.

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

Agreed. Hospitals need to be avoided at all costs. A dear friend all the way across the country picked up a cold from his grand-niece last Christmas. It turned into bad bronchitis, got worse, and he finally went to the hospital. I do not know much about what happened there, except for what I learned from his wife, which was damned little. He was intubated and put in ICU, was there for a week and more. Probably put on run-death-is-near. I know in my gut the hospital called it covid. He'd never been jabbed, but in his semi-comatose state, I have to wonder...he and his wife hated each other, they were in the midst of divorcing. I shall wonder all my days what she agreed to. Did she say, "Sure thing" when they told her he needed the vax, knowing that it was against his wishes? Anyway, each time he started to come out from his intubated state he became agitated and enraged at finding himself stuck full of tubes (the report says "aggressive"), and demanded to be released. They kept drugging him and putting him under! Finally he was deemed "well enough" to leave ICU. That morning he had a massive heart attack on his hospital bed and died. His wife, who was about to lose her mansion and sweet lifestyle, is now sitting pretty. It sure worked out well for her. His sisters are grief-stricken but find nothing questionable or outrageous about all of this. As for his kids - meh, they miss Dad, sure, but they have a toy-filled life to distract them, they both have new cars. I miss him, his friendship and his humor. We knew each other since we were three years old. And I will never stop wondering. I haven't seen his death certificate, but I'll bet every penny I have that it says he died "of covid".

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Agree: Hospitals need to be avoided at all costs.

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My doc did same thing, I got Delta Dec 2021. Had " covid pneumonia " and he would not treat it. NOTHING! Sorry pal can't do anything for you buddy! It's viral ,no treatment available. No antibiotics, no prednisone! Coughing so hard I collapsed a lung. He came to do his rounds in the hospital and I threw him out of my room! I LIVED! NO BONUS FOR HIM OR THE HOSPITAL! HAHA!!!!!!

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Just about true for me as well. The stupidity, ignorance, denial and blind compliance are staggering. I never dreamed people were so...so...

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And then treat them poorly

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My wife refuses to believe that this is the case. Links to official guidelines, protocols, etc. stating that no treatment would be given until you were sick enough to go to the hospital, will be GREATLY appreciated!

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My primary care doc told me very explicitly. Twice. Once in 2020: “If you get Covid, stay home. There is no treatment. If you can’t breathe, go to the emergency room.” And in 2021: “If you get Covid stay home. There is an monoclonal antibody treatment, but you don’t qualify. And anyway they’re taking it off the market soon.” This is Bay Area Calif.

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FWIW, my husband got CV in Nov. of 2020 that turned into pneumonia. They gave him antibody plasma. That had him home in 2 days. So there were medical procedures, even then. Central Ohio area.

I got over it using the Zelenko protocol, but we ran out of quercetin and couldn't find it locally.

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Yes I realized with those kinds of answers I needed to help myself. Got all the supplements and spare meds and took care on my own. And a new PCP is in the plan!

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Look under "when to seek emergency medical attention:"

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/steps-when-sick.html

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Thanks, that generally confirms what I thought.

Clicking around the links on that page, we find that the CDC's treatment guidelines basically tell you to ride it out unless you're in a "high-risk" group, and then monoclonal antibodies or antivirals like Paxlovid come into play. They pooh-pooh supplements (vit D, vit C, zinc) and actively recommend against HCQ or ivermectin. 🙄

https://files.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/guidelines/covid19treatmentguidelines.pdf

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I got over the original strain using quercetin (similar to HCQ) and zinc, as well as the other supplements. That will work, but it takes time.

BTW... let's call it "not from the pharmacy ivermectin" does work. You can find dosage information and much more info here:

https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

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Unfortunately, I don't have any links. What I do have is personal experience. MANY coworkers and friends got Covid over the past 2.5 years. In those cases, they called me for advice. Step one was ALWAYS call your doctor to see what they would do. (I knew this was a losing battle in most cases - but I still thought this should be your first stop on the off chance you had an actual doctor who cared about your health and was willing to actually practice medicine.)

In the vast majority of the cases, the doctors would do NOTHING, so that is what I base this comment on. I would say this applies easily to at least a dozen people or so. Many friends couldn't get antibody treatment (even when they were still "approved"). Some couldn't even get Paxlovid. It was the most infuriating thing I had ever seen, and I can't unsee it now.

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It's as though in the entire history of the world, there'd been no prior afflictions with any of these various symptoms for which people would use various well-understood remedies/supplements/nutritional supports.

What troubled me most was the utter absence of common sense. You feel like crap--you just lie in your bed miserably until cardiac arrest or suffocation occurs?

People will take a gazillion OTC/supplement aisle remedies for the common cold but couldn't extend the idea just a wee bit towards a new respiratory virus? (Or presumed respiratory virus since the main action seems inflammatory and what was called pneumonia on scans seemed to have been lots of micro-clotting instead.)

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My case was mild (June 2022). My primary prescribed Paxlovid, which I refused. I am surprised that some could not get it, from what I've read, it's been mostly sitting on shelves due to underwhelming demand. Later in summer, here in USA they made it available over the counter (approved by Pharmacist.) Which seems a most curious option for a drug that requires a blood test to insure proper kidney function and more recently, has dangerous interactions with many commonly taken drugs.

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The two people I'm thinking of got Covid in the January - March timeframe when Paxlovid was relatively new. It sort of seemed that certain people were using certain criteria to limit it. At the time, I thought it might be the best thing available, if your doctor wouldn't give you anything else and you didn't have access to IVM or HCQ. However - just like the injections - the more information that came out, the more worthless it appeared to be.

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That jibes with what I've seen. I have a friend who got Covid late last year. The doctor told him to go to the emergency room if the symptoms kept worsening. Not a word about taking supplements or medication of any kind to fight disease progression: Let 'er rip! He ended up in the hospital for weeks and almost died.

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I even had 65+ year old friends.. and the doctors would say - No, you can't get antibody treatment (she was told they were being held for people at High risk).. the next time she couldn't get Paxlovid.

Another friend who was 70 was given nothing from his GP, but got his Allergist to prescribe Paxlovid.

But in general, folks got nothing. It was so distressing and disturbing. I ended up sending a list of supplements they could take, as their doctors were worthless. I can't forget this

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Add masks and we can then say ask, “or all the above?”

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THE FUCKING MASKS!..............

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No no no. You are out of date. It should be, “THE FAUCING MASKS!” Most are still wearing them here in Japan. More and more retail stores are requiring them of customers.

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Just like in Thailand. I get furious when I see people (especially children) in masks. At least they’ve stopped requiring it in most public places.

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My wife and our child are among those who loudly yell at me to wear a mask. I do not. Rarely even have one on me.

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The maskies here love to point out how Asian countries wear masks (the only evidence I have seen of this is the occasional Asian girl wearing a mask in an airport - to which I would muster up the nastiest sounding cough I could when walking by them)

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As them why they don't wear burkhas - heavy cloth on top of the mask must protect even more, right?

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While a noticeable number more are going maskless outdoors and even on the train, we are still at statistical 100% mask usage in the Tokyo area despite the government recommending that masks NOT be worn out doors and now even indoors if not talking.

Two and a half years of this Faucing madness. Getting to the point where I am hoping to go mad so as to keep my blood pressure down.

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I love you!

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The fucking mask !!!!!

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That's what the crowd were wearing in some of the racy scenes in the very disturbing movie "Eyes Wide Shut."

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They come in handy for lootathons too.

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And family members still wonder where the unbridled rage comes from....

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I still become so angry that I cannot control it. I need some medical treatment, but will not go to a doctor because I fear I will flip out.

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Too right!

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No, but it's inacurate.

It's MANY crimes against humanity.

Just saying.

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We've got to divide it into subcategories if we want to understand the full picture.

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They are the tumor, we are the cure.

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EXACTLY!

That is the perfect way to summarize the foundational issue.

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Healthy 67-year-old brother-in-law had headaches in March 2021, Glioblastoma detected in 40% of his brain in May, passed away from it in June. We didn't even think the jabs had anything to do with it until that fall when we saw his vax card: 2nd Pfizer jab administered in February. No doubt in our mind now, but at least they didn't call the COD COVID on the death certificate.

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OH that's just awful!! I'm so truly sorry. My vibrant elderly neighbor (also 2nd cuz) was found slumped over by a delivery driver... two weeks after 2nd jab. One family member had slight suspicion. I spoke mine. Believe 'stroke' was determined CoD. Heartbreaking stories like these anger me to NO end.

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So sorry Doug.

How tragic for your family.

I know way too many older folks in my dad's fancy old people neighborhood that suddenly out of nowhere discovered a "cancer surprise" these past 2+ years. All of them were lured into getting the spike shot.

All of them are dead. 2 lung cancer, one multiple myeloma (sp), 2 brain cancer, one liver cancer. All of them were "older" but no cancer or disabilities.

Then, dad's neighbor had a disabling muscular disease that was well under control. She was using a motorized wheel chair, but she died suddenly over night. Devastating unexpected shock.

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38 year old nephew had new heart issues. Work required him to get the vaxx. Died five days after the Pfizer jab.

Family still blames his prior drug use not the jab.

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This is very sad news. Tragic

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All of it. Just so very sad.

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My daughter's good friend (mid 50's) had colon cancer in early 2019, treated and was in remission. She got 2 Pfizer shots in May 2021, then booster in October 2021. Late November diagnosed with a recurrence of colon cancer, stage 4, spreading everywhere. Each scan she gets shows more tumors and they are everywhere in her body. It's like her immune system is totally non-functional now. She is near to going into hospice care and probably doesn't have long as her weight is down to 95. Her daughter tried to convince her to not get the shots. She didn't listen, but is sorry now as she finally does suspect the shots had something to do with this. It's heartbreaking to watch.

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If they want to get their story out, have them get in touch!

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

I figured that you might follow up on this little tidbit of data.

"US working age deaths in 2021, if I did my arithmetic correctly, amounted to 937,488 deaths.

US working age deaths in 2019, if I did my arithmetic correctly, amounted to 707,265 deaths.

That's an increase of 230,000 US working age deaths between 2019 and 2021, of which the actuaries say most are not due to covid.

Crickets from the CDC as regards any investigation of this or explanation for this."

https://sensiblemed.substack.com/p/still-no-data-on-pfizer-bivalent/comments

Now let's consider some possible explanations for CDC silence.

1) The CDC was too busy fighting anti-vaxxer propaganda and didn't notice,

2) Long COVID has dumbed the CDC personnel down so much that they can no longer do basic arithmetic,

3) The CDC is afraid that if they investigate, it might find an inconvenient answer, and

4) The CDC has already investigated and doesn't want the public to know the answer.

CDC Mortality Data Sources:

2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db395-tables-508.pdf#page=3

2021:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm

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"3) The CDC is afraid that if they investigate, it might find an inconvenient answer"

It wouldn't be their first time. These are almost the exact words used by CDC whistleblower Dr. William Thompson when commenting on CDC fraud regarding vaccine safety and possible links to autism. Hint - there never was a proper investigation. When they did start investigating, they did it only for a little bit, a very tiny bit, threw away most important findings, dusted over the rest, and finally declared 'nothing to see here, move along'.

According to Dr Thompson they were terrified of what they could find if they dug any deeper.

Hint: if you are interested in this story, you could do better than to use google. For obvious reasons.

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ALL the regulatory bodies are captured by the companies they are supposed to "regulate."

The real kicker is OUR tax dollars are used to FUND these sham entities.

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That really makes me angry. ALL of it

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

The data looks like it agrees with your coverup hypothesis. The CDC is comparing 2021 with 2020, instead of with the pre-pandemic 2019.

There is a chance of defeating the coverup if people make a case that comparing 2021 with 2020 is invalid because covid was a confounder in 2020 and that, instead, 2021 should be compared with 2019.

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Wouldn't covid also be a confounder in 2021?

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Covid would be a confounder to vax as cause of death in 2021, but the point is that 2019 is a better baseline than 2020.

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They succeeded at backing most of the public off the truth about vaccine safety. These people later became Covidians. Just had a conversation the other day with someone who said the autism/vaccine connection had been “disproven”. By whom? Oh, right, the CDC. Always consider the source.

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The CDC, through its own study, discovered the flu vaccine doesn’t prevent deaths--even for the older people it was supposed to help. But people still line up for it!

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I never got a flu shot. Had the flu once. It sucked. I survived.

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ty, Tom. this is essentially what Ed Dowd (https://gettr.com/user/edwarddowd) is saying. others as well. but the CDC won't go there. we all know of course that it is caused by climate change. all these working age adults are dying of heatstroke while "breaking rocks in the hot sun".

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Looks to me like Dowd is focusing on millennials.

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not so much. actually some of his data is from group insurance plans--those life ins plans you get when you go to work for med-large company. it seems to be more a 40-50 YO group he is tracking--but others as well. the idea is those LI co's are a bit freaking out bec you are not supposed to die in middle age. that is their profit pool.

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Profits were down in employer life. Risk was undercounted, likely because of vaccines.

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Can you find one of Dowd's posts on this topic?

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these may help:

https://gettr.com/post/p1u3kfn0538

https://gettr.com/post/p1tnhol30f0

https://gettr.com/post/p1sgtr6d610

He is in process of putting a site to focus on this on his other issues. also a book in works.

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I was glancing thru the California Dept of Public Health website the other day and saw, for 2020, a chart showed all cause mortality over time. A big uptick in 2020 vs previous years.

So I went to see what they show for 2021 and 2022 to date. Maybe I missed something, but it looks like they have omitted the trend line and now, instead, show deaths by cause WITHIN the year, not over time. They show how each county did relative to the average CA county that year. (Made up example: in 2022, Kern County had a higher % dying of Alzheimer’s than the average CA county in 2022.) I could not find any charts showing the trend in all cause deaths in CA in 2021 and 2022. Please someone prove me wrong!

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This kind of obfuscation is very prevalent nowadays. You should try looking at well established databases for miscarriages, stillbirths and neonatal deaths, whereas previously the data was available on a monthly basis you now have to look very hard for even quarterly data, and in Australia it is now delayed by over 3 months.

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

Thanks for that useful datapoint, I always like to use tidbits like yours to check Steve Kirsch's claim of a VAERS underreporting factor of 40. There have been 9,000 odd deaths reported for 2021 following Covid vaccination, of which about 2,200 were of working age. About 65% of the US population are between 15 and 64 years old, so that gives us about 214 million people. According to the New York Times, 74% of those aged 18 to 64 are vaccinated, so that gives us about 159 million vaccinated working age people in the US. Based on the 2,200 fatalities reported to VAERS we get a vaccine fatality rate of about 14 per million. If we multiply that by Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40 we get 560 vaccine deaths per million. Does this Kirschian vaccine fatality rate give us the 230,000 increased deaths in 2021? Let's see. If the vaccinated working age population in the US is 159 million, then 560 deaths per million would give us about 90,000 deaths. This is about 40% of the actual number, so, if anything, the underreporting factor should be at least 100.

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I may be wrong here, but even the bare numbers as in VAERS are so horrific that we don’t need to take a stab at URF.

I don’t believe anything different would happen if the URF was 1 or 100.

It ought to, but the authorities aren’t even dealing with the bare numbers.

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

Is that really you Dr Yeadon? or just someone pretending to be you? If it is really you, I feel honored that you commented.

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David,

It is me, but I’m just an ordinary person, caught up in extraordinary times.

Cheers

Mike

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

[I think you're awesome] (insert music) :)! I still recall early on you spoke out. I did not take the shot and listened to you and others when so many around me were frantically looking for "vax" appointments. Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🧡

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Dr Yeadon, again Oh gosh. I said you were the reason I didn't take the shot. No didn't mean that 😉. The numbers on the local covid dash ---I forget, but the positivity rate for the amount of testing didn't seem so threatening. Relativity rate vs absolute relativity. There was a lot. Two unnecessary minor surgeries (among other things) and my mistrust in certain doctors and medical establishment started a long time ago.

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

Further to my above comment, it is worth considering how many of the older vaccinees might have succumbed to the vaccines. If we assume that only 20% of the deaths among vaccinees over 64 are due to the vaccine, we get 0.2 x 7,200 deaths in 2021 occurring in about 92 million vaccinees. This gives us 625 deaths per million if we apply Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40, which when multiplied by the 90 odd million elderly vaccinees gives us about 57,000 premature deaths.

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Based on Ethical Skeptic's numbers, it looks like excess US working age deaths reached 372,000 in September.

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Now see if you can get the CDC to make a proper comparison of 2021 with 2019 instead of with 2020.

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He is awesome. Definitely following him!

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Ethical Skeptic's figure of 372, 000 up to September 2022 is very shocking and shows that the death rate has not abated much since 2021. I find that a bit surprising as the Euromomo charts show excess deaths have been declining since their high of 25% above average earlier this year, and they are now down to below average.

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Reminds me of Alberta reporting that Unknown Deaths to be the leading cause of deaths in 2021, a 2x increase from 2020 and 4x increase from 2019.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/deaths-with-unknown-causes-now-alberta-s-top-killer-province-1.5975536

Authorities are perplexed because they refused to even entertain the obvious cause.

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Watch out, there's "Medium Covid" now!

LOL

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#3 is the major part of it.

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All the above?

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This is exactly what happens when the government is allowed to operate in secret without accountability to the people.

The covid chicanery is a satellite issue (an outgrowth) to the nexus of the problem. It is happening in every program, agency, operation, etc. that the state controls.

I think a major reason this goes unabated and is getting progressively more egregious is that people confuse the system of checks and balances the Founders devised vs. THE STATE.

IT IS BLIND TRUST IN THE SYSTEM THAT ENABLES THIS ABUSE.

The state has been allowed to do an end run around the checks and balances - often with the help of our elected officials because people trust that the checks and balances will eventually sort out abuses of this nature.

This is not the monster "under your bed"; it is the monster that is "in your bed" that we will continue to sleep with until we scream from the tops of the mountaintops.

Time to scream or be eaten by the monstrosity that is the state.

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There are two huge centers of unaccountable power in the modern state: intelligence and the bureaucracy. But perhaps intelligence owns the bureaucracy. Congress is nothing but a gateway for the huge money flows of the modern state, while the executive tries to consolidate all other power into itself. The judiciary is less powerful than Congress because they either rubber stamp what the powerful want, or are reduced to a nibble at the edges of the state apparatus. It’s time to get real about what kind of government we actually have.

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I agree. If there is one good thing that has come from covid; it is that it has lit a fire under my ass.

I was asleep at the wheel.

My wife and I have started getting involved at the community level and writing more letters, etc., to elected officials than I should admit.

But the real solution is right here:

Amplifying our voices in these Stacks' through coordination.

An action plan needs to be devised; or we will be stuck on the launch pad just going through mental simulations.

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Speaking of fire, if the voters put the Dems out of office in this coming election, we ALL have to hit the ground running and hold the feet of the R's to the fire. We cannot return our former state of complacency.

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Most Rs are no different than the dems. They differ only in which roles they are assigned by central casting, much like “good cop, bad cop”. They both work for the same masters.

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Great to hear! Thank you:)

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Couldn't agree more. Pointless continuing to just moan and whine about all the wrongs being committed on our tax dollars/euros/pounds etc, never forgetting we put these officials in power.

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I had my “awakening” 9 1/2 years ago. From what I have learned since then added to the glimpses I saw before, Sadly I believe this too will die on the launch pad. So many have before now.

Otherwise, I agree.

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Drummers! Beat the Long Roll!

Wish I could find a vid showing this drum call in context. Have heard in context but can not find a vid or movie clip of it. Will continue to look. In the mean time, here is the call itself.

https://youtu.be/kQYeQXL3XEc

Shoulda gone with my said instincts. Wrong navy but at least the one we descended from.

BEAT TO QUARTERS

https://youtu.be/AF7qrDujmw8

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Congress outsourced its responsibility to the industries it has outsourced the regulation of to the Exec, as well. Congress does not, in the main, write bills as they should. Lobbyists do.

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Hmm, ((who))) could be behind the capture of all the institutions?

McCarthy and McCarran were right, but they mislabeled the (((people))) behind the subversion.

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Yeah... but we're fighting an uphill battle.

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"Hush little baby, don't say a word

And never mind that noise you heard

It's just the beasts under your bed

In your closet, in your head"

Metallica, "Enter Sandman."

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Karl Denninger at Market Ticker is pretty much on the "it's all about $$$, no depop" train.

However... in the big picture, isn't the world losing adult taxpayers? Don't most governments WANT people to work and pay taxes? Why would they NOT stop something that was essentially killing the people that pay their salaries?

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Not about money. These people have a need to be the king of the mountain. While they would prefer to be the king of a mountain of gold, they will settle for being the king of a pile of dung as long as they are king and you and I are not. The just must be king of the hill.

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Speaking of mountains of gold and corrupt people, here's my favorite cartoonist's view; scammer gets what he deserves.

[This cartoon is "suitable for all audiences." Site's disclaimer applies if you venture anywhere else! ]

https://www.oglaf.com/wilyworm/

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A fair and reasonable question. I wish I knew the answer. Unless of course it's because their paymasters are not actually tax-paying citizens. Just thinking aloud ...

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"...it is the monster that is "in your bed"..."

First image popped into my head was Joe Biden licking an ice-cream cone.

Scuse me, I need to go hug my axe a bit.

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True but I would add that the time to act was several decades ago.

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Agree. Slothfulness by We The People have allowed this.

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I like this way of stating it. Not sure I agree completely with it, but I like it. Maybe it is slothfulness, but I have always thought of it as We The People believing that a rubric flies on auto pilot.

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Well said!

I agree; that is exactly what I said in my first long comment when Gato posted his article this morning.

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Sorry, missed it. Laziness, disbelief, misplaced thrust probably all played parts of this.

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I've only glanced down that "rabbit hole, " but there are folks who think the problem goes back much further, at least to getting the USA into WW I and WW II. There apparently are some fascinating and also what should be troubling historical questions as to just who financed various wars including the Soviet Revolution. Who would profit? Who would lose? And these aren't just academic questions (and frankly, to ask them today would get you kicked out of academia). At least according to these whisperers, there is more than a little historical linkage to the current US/NATO aggression against Russia using Ukraine as a patsy.

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It'll be interesting to see what, if any, challenges to the law occur. Of course I don't support such a law as it can only further state capture of medicine. I've little legal knowledge, but I suspect that "misinformation" is a bit vague. The law usually wants more specific definitions. States have much greater power to limit "speech" of a business than of a private citizen. But it's not clear that muzzling doctors is a good use of such power.

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Legal challenges take years to play out. Unless an injunction against the law is given for the duration of the trial, by the time of the judgement the law will have become engrained in practice regardless the outcome.

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Pliers and blowtorch's?

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That was my thought when I first heard about it. How in God's name can they dictate how your doctor treats you. I know, I know...it's California, but trying to cancel doctors because they had a different opinion on how to treat their patients is totalitarian madness. I bought some Ivermectin just to have on hand. Haven't had to use it, but I am not sure of the proper dose for a 175 pound male. Anybody here know?

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Everyone knows the real cause is climate change

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Unfortunately, Biden is taking this old canard seriously, to the tune of $88 billion to fight “pandemics caused by climate change.” https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/18/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-releases-strategy-to-strengthen-health-security-and-prepare-for-biothreats/

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About a year ago, I read somewhere that the plan was to pivot from "CV totalitarianism" to "climate change" totalitarianism. Looks like it's happening.

FWIW, I think it will be easier in the US because 2nd A. I feel sorry for the people of Europe who are going to die this winter because of the decisions of their government.

This is democide, part 2.

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If they put the C19 vaxx on the childhood schedule and my kids’ schools try to require it, you better believe 2A will come into play.

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Are you freaking kidding me?

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Puppet in Chief

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Winter vagene and watching scary movies.

https://files.catbox.moe/ovibu7.jpg

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

We should not forget that by simply adding a covid related diagnosis to a claim, a hospital or medical practitioner can HUGELY inflate their reimbursements giving the incentive to lie, cheat, and steal. Corrupted to the core. "For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil" I retired from Health Care Administration after many years. This used to be called fraud, and malpractice. Now it is encouraged and incentivized. Insanity!

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Yup!

And now every conceivable claim can fall under one universal Loooooong Covid billing code!

Gonna be a very long list consolidated for ease of billing....and reimbursement.

It'll be the biggest scam in the history of healthcare insurance....and we get to pay for hypochondriac's!!!

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The first time I learned about the incentives for the hospital was on Infowars. And they were correct, unfortunately.

They were the same people that reported the hospital protocol that will kill you, and explained why the hospitals won't use ivermectin. If you die from the approved protocol (which WILL kill you) they can't be sued. If you are harmed by ivermectin, the hospital CAN be sued.

Say what you want about infowars, but they are well ahead of the curve on many, many issues.

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The first chart, the first 6 categories were respiratory in nature and account for over a million deaths!

I got the bad Delta strain in summer 21. Wiped me out. Physically I was on top of my game. I hadn’t felt so good in years. Working out, eating right and supplements some geared to fight CV.

Then I got a high exposure to it. Went to hospital with double pneumonia. Dang! Cant believe I got it. Actually wanted to get it so I could have the immunity since I was so strong. Anyway, ended up in ICU for 11 days. Almost didn’t make it out. My daughter said NO VENT! Glad she was my advocate. I didn’t even know. Here is what I’m getting at. I wonder how many of those deaths (including my mom) were because the toxic protocol they used. I got 6 doses of Remdesivir.

Had I been treated for pneumonia, I would have been out of the hospital in just a few days. So the million deaths, how many of those were engineered?

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I think the answer is "many". Have you come across Denis Rancourt's work? He has shown that the deaths correlate with the timing of the WHO pandemic declaration and associated lockdown and treatment protocols rather than with the spread of the disease.

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Re: the Congress Critters - I can’t figure out why no one is running on an anti-lockdown platform. This is my number one issue, and no one - at ANY level - is talking about how many lives were ruined, kids driven to mental health crises, why I wasn’t allowed to buy paint or gardening tools but the Governor could host her kiddo’s grad party at the fancy family cabin, complete with elderly grandparents. It’s all abortion and who does or doesn’t like Trump - like freaking 6th grade recess - instead of actually holding people accountable for their sins. Eff them all.

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People are talking about it. Just not those who were on board, aka most of the ruling class.

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And I don't know about the US but with these increases in excess deaths our Chief Medical Officer has gone AWOL.

Where's Whitty?

https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/wheres-whitty

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Thanks, great read

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I think that he's on sabbatical with the CDC brass.

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Back in his coffin where he belongs

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Hopefully this time with a stake through the middle. Coz you never know...

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Sort of like when the queen died and a week later all the bought and paid for MSM reported she died from…..wait for it, “old age”. Okayyyyyyy we believe that.

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She was 96 years old. That's pretty much old age in anyone's book. It's not always a conspiracy. Plus she lost her husband not long before, it's not unusual in couples who have been together as long as they had (from age 18 on her part) for them to pass within a year of each other.

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

No, old age is not a cause of death. Heart failure, liver failure, kidney failure, pneumonia...those are causes, not old age.

The queen also came from a family that lived well into old age, her mother died at 102.

The queen was also devoted to her job probably as much or more so than to her late husband.

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Her sister didn't. My point was, your body has a lifespan, it ages. And it's actually your heart or brain ceasing to function that kill you, if you want to be really pedantic. The "cause" will be what led to that occurring. Before covid and the jabs nobody would have batted an eye at that description. And 96 is well into old age by most standards.

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Yes, I do like to be pedantic. The heart or brain cease to function, but that's for a reason as well. A very young cardiologist once said to my mother (in my presence) that your 'heart has only so many beats in it' in order to get her to take a drug to slow her heart rate that made her feel poorly. I thought it was the lamest thing I'd ever heard and so did my mother as she didn't use the drug. The problem my mother had does adversely affect the heart and leads to heart failure eventually but not for the reason the young doctor gave.

I am of the opinion that we have been lead to falsely believe that our bodies have a limited lifespan. The world we live in might make it so, but that doesn't mean that that's how we are created. But that's another discussion for another time!

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So what's the cause again?

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Old age. It comes to us all. Your body has a lifespan. 🙄

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bodily entropy?

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I’m going with old age for a 96 year old. It doesn’t take much. A broken hip or ribs leads to fatal pneumonia.

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Not so fast stranger! Every event in the World is linked to CoVid or Climate Change somehow - it’s mandatory. 😀 So the media Commentariat added a rider ... she had ‘never completely recovered from the CoVid she had in February’. “CoVid Death beats equally at the poor man's gate and at the palaces of kings.” (With apologies to Horace.) Queen was another prominent figure locked in the giddy... Jab-CoVid-Jab-CoVid-Jab... da capo al fine, continuum. By chance her last PCR Test was outside the 28 days, so she died of what about 95% of other alleged CoVid victims died , old age and the decrepitude that brings to us all.

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Covid is just a dry run for climate restrictions.

The people have been properly conditioned and passed this first test with flying colors.

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Yes I agree. Since Net Zero/Green Deal requires - and will cause - near shut-down of the economy and society, it was my view early on that lockdown and the rest of the madness, which produced much of the ‘decarbonising’ effect demanded by the Green Gestapo, was a dress rehearsal to see how much they could get away with. Everything it seems. Of course that’s a conspiracy theory, but to date we conspiracy theorists have a 100% record of turning out to be right.

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Covid might have been a trial run, but it woke a lot of people up. Letting people in on the plan wasn’t part of the plan.

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Let’s hope it woke (?) enough. Are we allowed to say ‘woke’ in its true meaning or will we be ‘fact checked’? 🙂

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And a rather lower record of leveraging that into political relief.

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Alas you are right - as Jonathan Swift commented: “You cannot reason a man out of something he has not reasoned himself into”. And as far as politicians are concerned we are dealing with rather frail intellects with the mental acuity of plankton. Some wonder whether they are evil or just idiots, the latter having a lot of supporting evidence. My view is one doesn’t necessarily exclude the other.

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They don’t owe me an accounting. I will never trust any of the people or organizations that helped propagate this hysteria.

If the CDC/FDA/Pfizer/Democrats in the future recommend something, I will know to do the opposite.

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You'll probably be better off for it!

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UK Office for National Statistics (ONS). These figures are for England & Wales not whole of UK - excludes Scotland & Northern Ireland but these only have about 6million of the 67million of UK) Also despite saying it will be updated, I can’t find an update beyond Q3 of 2021. But anyway it is very interesting...

“This publication will be updated quarterly. COVID-19 deaths involving pre-existing conditions is split by broad age groups between 1-64 and 65+.

Please see below for death registrations for 2020 and 2021 (provisional) that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions, England and Wales.

2020: 9432 (0-64: 1557 / 65 and over: 7875)

2021 Q1: 6483 (0-64: 1560/ 65 and over: 4923)

2021 Q2: 346 (0-64: 153/ 65 and over: 193)

2021 Q3: 1142 (0-64: 512/ 65 and over: 630)”

And this from 2020 during the Fakedemic...

“Of the 50,335 deaths that occurred in March to June 2020 involving COVID-19 in England and Wales, 45,859 (91.1%) had at least one pre-existing condition, while 4,476 (8.9%) had none. COVID-19 deaths where there was no pre-existing condition between March and June 2020 are included below, this can be found on table 5.

No pre-existing condition: England and Wales – 4476

No pre-existing condition: England – 4169

No pre-existing condition: Wales – 294

This publication has now been paused. However, we are looking into continuing this analysis and will be publishing this in the future.”

The ‘pause’ seems to have become eternal.

Interesting isn’t it, the difference between the panic-mongering head line death figure - people who were going to die anyway from other causes, and those who died just from.CoVid. In fact it’s about the same number who die annually during Winter Cold & ‘flu season?

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Allegedly the cdc is about to vote on adding the clot shot to the childhood register. My state does not allow religious exemptions, so we are gonna homeschool if it comes to it

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Oct 19, 2022·edited Oct 19, 2022

Regarding the Covid fiasco of the last couple of years, arguments have been presented for viewing it as something ginned up by an evil conspiracy, and as technocratic and/or scientific incompetence (a la Eugyppius). It could be (and likely is) some combination of the two. But whichever of these theories one subscribes to, they both end with the same lesson learned--our so-called "elites" cannot be trusted with our well being.

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Two recent Dark Horse with Bret Weinstein podcasts featured various whistleblowers and among others, that topic was treated. Weinstein makes a good point. I don't have a verbatim transcript, so I'll paraphrase it mostly in my own words, no doubt.

I don't like to claim there is a conspiracy to cripple our armed forces [Much of the two podcasts dealt with possible vax injuries to active duty service members and the apparent indifference of the chain of command to even look into the issues.] But when there have been so many decisions and policies that fly in the face of common sense, of claims that are the inversion of known medical science principles, the denial of normal process and even rights, it seems inexplicable solely due to incompetence. If it were more or less random screw-ups or ineptitude, they would not get EVERYTHING exactly wrong -- but that is what seems to be happening.

[end dubious paraphrase of Weinstein]

Speaking solely on my own account, I still am mostly in the "Clever deep staters gamed the system for maximum financial gain," but lately I find myself being won over to the "nebulous evil and apparent cripple our coutnries and take over the world" fringe.

Weinstein has never claimed deliberate malice, but as he and others point out, there are a number of data points that, if one connects the dots, it seems very difficult to come to any other conclusion than someone wants to sabotage the US military. And, I might add, the same methods (mRNA vax mandates) will do the same job on many other critical institutions.

Weinstein didn't mention this, at least on those two podcasts, but I read it some where and repeat it when appropriate: the mRNA vaxxes are, for all practical purposes, ONLY used in "Western" nations (USA, EU, and closely allied nations).

If it's deliberate, the damage will be far more than just our military.

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My sister in laws neighbor had late stage cancer and had only weeks live. His death was marked as covid on death certificate. His wife was quite upset about it but no one was interested in changing cause of death. So yes, it does happen and probably frequently.

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